No matter what exercise I do or no matter how "into it" I get. I can not for the life of me gain any temporay girth during manual exercise's. My flaccid length and girth are pretty big I guess especially my girth at 5 inches but I don't get any expansion. What am I doing wrong?
 
I have two routines which I alternate. Day one is jelqs at 70-80% for 20-25 min. Then slow squash jelqs I don't count reps . Day 2 is semi erect squeezes and Ullis for 10 reps.
 
Try to build one routine i don't like this alternate thing..build one solid routine and be consisent with that.How fast do you jelq per rep?I mean do you have a 1 sec rep or a 3 sec rep?

Jelqing and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] should give you great expansion , you are clearly doing something wrong.
 
Girth was tough for me too and I went months with no change. What got me gaining and kept me gaining was the advent of super-sets. You can find many of my earlier routines that used a super-set platform. The newest version of these types of workouts are in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] all in one workout. If I were you I would really step up my training by performing super-sets in some capacity.

Here is an early example of Girth Super-Sets: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/18-dld-supersets-extreme-girth-sets.html
 
Oh yea you could try some super-sets..if you have a pump go for the 5x5x3 workout from the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] , if not you could try something like 5 min of jelq followed by 5 min of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSj[/words] / 2-3 sets.
 
Smitty02483;657467 said:
I have two routines which I alternate. Day one is jelqs at 70-80% for 20-25 min. Then slow squash jelqs I don't count reps . Day 2 is semi erect squeezes and Ullis for 10 reps.

You might need to up the pressure bro. I know some days I really have to choke the fucker out to feel thoroughly worked, while others I get expansion easily.
 
Yeah I find days like this even though I'm early in my PE adventure. Like, today I had a shitty workout, didn't feel like I got a good expansion from my 5x5x3 (I pump and standard jelq rather than pump and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]) but the other day my meat was simply huge. I hope I don't have too many days like today as it was so disappointing.

When you do your girthwork, roughly how tumescent are you?
 
I did a superset workout today that I will stick with and see what happens. I did 100 jelqs 30 sec slow squash and 30 sec erect bend. I did that for 5 sets. My girth went from 5 to 5.3ish.
 
Smitty02483;657607 said:
I did a superset workout today that I will stick with and see what happens. I did 100 jelqs 30 sec slow squash and 30 sec erect bend. I did that for 5 sets. My girth went from 5 to 5.3ish.

That's good. Keep at it. You don't need to get too much expansion during your girth workout because if you push it too far you will end up with just fluid retention. Supersetting is a good way to keep the fluid down.

Also one thing to think about is grip strength. The exercises you mentioned are highly dependent on grip strength and if you do not have strong enough hands your expansion will be limited. Think about strengthing your grip, try some forearm exercises like heavy grips.

Since I believe grip strength is a limiting factor, try some devices to overcome that limitation. Since you do SSJs try dash wrapping at the base while doing ssjs. Refer to this thread: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...-with-soft-wrap.html?highlight=ssj,+dash+wrap

Regular jelqing is good to superset here to keep fluid retention down and move your fluid you are building up around.

Also there is more than one way to skin a cat. If your expansion isn't as good as it should be, perhaps make sure your stretching is on point. You can only expand as far as your tunica allows. In the past I only did girth work because I only wanted girth gains but one thing I have learned from the forums is that stretching and girth go together. They may not seem like it but they do and I believe that girth work in itself can only stretch the tunica so far (before it turns into fluid buildup). With stretching you do not have to worry about fluid buildup but you can still stretch the tunica. Regular stretching will help but if you you want to do more girth oriented stretching try bundled stretches. I like to do bundled stretches before I do girth work because it will give them more room to expand but I also do them without having girth work follow ... just whenever I can.

Lastly if you aren't do so already make sure you do active recovery using all day stretching or a 24 hour cock ring.

I hope that helps.
 
Well I don't think it's my grip strength. I workout all the time and can pull 505 lbs without straps so I don't think that's the issue. My stretching is pretty basic DLD routine with some bundled stretches added in. I have no trouble gaining length, girth is like a fairytale though.
 
Smitty02483;657666 said:
Well I don't think it's my grip strength. I workout all the time and can pull 505 lbs without straps so I don't think that's the issue. My stretching is pretty basic DLD routine with some bundled stretches added in. I have no trouble gaining length, girth is like a fairytale though.

Really put a lot of focus and intensity to the Bundled Stretches, these will help break down the Tunica and allow for expansion to be much greater. I a writing an article now on this that should be ready by the morning.
 
Smitty02483;657666 said:
Well I don't think it's my grip strength. I workout all the time and can pull 505 lbs without straps so I don't think that's the issue. My stretching is pretty basic DLD routine with some bundled stretches added in. I have no trouble gaining length, girth is like a fairytale though.

I hear you and I guess if grip strength isn't the issue, I would really focus on those bundled stretches ... maybe think about making them the majority of your length routine versus thrown in here and there. Also even though your grip is strong try some of the nongrip dependent exercises I mentioned above and see if they help your expansion.
 
doublelongdaddy;657783 said:
Really put a lot of focus and intensity to the Bundled Stretches, these will help break down the Tunica and allow for expansion to be much greater. I a writing an article now on this that should be ready by the morning.

Looking forward to the article
 
superman05xx;657885 said:
Looking forward to the article

Yeah, I can't believe I have not done this yet. The article is coming along, I just wanted to add all stretching positions to bring greater understanding to how and why we do certain exercises.
 
doublelongdaddy;658022 said:
Yeah, I can't believe I have not done this yet. The article is coming along, I just wanted to add all stretching positions to bring greater understanding to how and why we do certain exercises.

I hear you DLD.

Smitty, how is the expansion coming?
 
Smitty02483;658288 said:
The routine gives me like .3 in of expansion

That is a great deal of expansion! Good work!
 
Smitty02483;657460 said:
No matter what exercise I do or no matter how "into it" I get. I can not for the life of me gain any temporay girth during manual exercise's. My flaccid length and girth are pretty big I guess especially my girth at 5 inches but I don't get any expansion. What am I doing wrong?

Watch a adult entertainment, something that'll keep you turned on and preferably around the 15-20 minute range. Get yourself about 90 -95% erect and grip (ok) your base hard as shit and jelq and kegel at the same time. Do this for a but until you see your glans beginning to become extremely engorged and your shaft should appear really vascular. Now before you start the exercise find something hard and fairly short, maybe 2 or 3 inches long or something similar to a toilet bowl. To get and idea let's use a toilet bowl. Once you finish what I said before, go right to the bowl and place the base of your dick near the end of the seat so 3/4 of your penis is hanging off the seat now with one hand I would compress it between the base and seat while kegeling, and the other hand use underhand grip and push all of that blood to the head(jelqing motion), I would do these for like 30 mins til I felt like my dick was going to explode (good way of course). If you're up to it give these a shot, they're a bit intense, however, they work.
 
This could be due to intensity. Make sure you're intensity is high enough :) That's most likely the case because expansion usually relates to the blood spots you get on your penis after a PE session or day (and you want those tiny blood spots)
 
kyomoto;658538 said:
This could be due to intensity. Make sure you're intensity is high enough :) That's most likely the case because expansion usually relates to the blood spots you get on your penis after a PE session or day (and you want those tiny blood spots)

Yep that's right...any kind of girth exercise should give you some sort of expantion...even a little one..if you don't get any expansion at all,you are doing something wrong.
 
Bro I don't know what happened today, I had to train for a good hour before started getting expansion<:(. Its ok though I'm done, and had great pump.
 
kyomoto;658538 said:
That's most likely the case because expansion usually relates to the blood spots you get on your penis after a PE session or day (and you want those tiny blood spots)

acromegaly did you always get red dots when you gained all that girth too.
 
templnite;658574 said:
acromegaly did you always get red dots when you gained all that girth too.

I did every session, they always went away in a few hours but I always got them.
 
You know at thunders they say you need to stop right before you get them, but I know I get them mainly when I have a good session. I'd really like to know acromegalys take on it though.
 
For me a big key to girth gains was getting in tune with my penis. Visualizing while exercising. Learning I could squeeze much harder than I was. Also maximizing my potential. When I found I couldn't keep as erect as needed to get the most out of my sessions, I started using low doses of generic viagra. Oh and I built up my hand strength as a stronger grip means a stronger squeeze, and better expansion. Weaker grip means less effective girth training.
 
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All good points! Although Viagra I would supplement with other natural stuff because I'm still young.
 
templnite;658758 said:
All good points! Although Viagra I would supplement with other natural stuff because I'm still young.

Age is a non issue. That's like saying you wouldn't eat protein, or take creatine to get better workouts at gym. To each their own though. We are all at different levels of commitment.
 
Yea but Viagra is a drug XD. You really think a twenty year old should start on that when he could just do his kegels?
 
templnite;658761 said:
Yea but Viagra is a drug XD. You really think a twenty year old should start on that when he could just do his kegels?

If his EQ is fucked up why not?Maybe kegels are not enough..his problem is more serious :) Viagra is always good.
 
templnite;658758 said:
All good points! Although Viagra I would supplement with other natural stuff because I'm still young.

When I'm ready to train girth, I will order enough [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]titan[/words] pills
 
stillwantmore2;658757 said:
For me a big key to girth gains was getting in tune with my penis. Visualizing while exercising. Learning I could squeeze much harder than I was. Also maximizing my potential. When I found I couldn't keep as erect as needed to get the most out of my sessions, I started using low doses of generic viagra. Oh and I built up my hand strength as a stronger grip means a stronger squeeze, and better expansion. Weaker grip means less effective girth training.

Excellent post Still!
 
I would also like to add on top of all the other advice, is the time of day , not sure if It has been mentioned yet . but in the morning and evening my penis is more relaxed plus higher testosterone levels aswell , I jelq bout 2 hours before sleep , so my penis is more relaxed as its easier for more blood to flow into it , I get better expansion at these times easier then in the mid of day etc . its a factor that could be considered because I know for a lot of men we seem to hang lower and more bigger when flaccid in the evenings :) hope this helps or works
 
I'm usually burnt-out by bedtime. In the morning though I'm more than ready for training, maybe also around midday. Stretching you could do at anytime though.
 
I usually like to do length in the morning, when I am tired, not much focus is needed in length work. I save the girth work for the early evening when my libido is higher and I am wide awake and able to put in the massive focus needed for girth work.
 
Your libido is higher at night? I guess your brain is hard-wired for darkness. At night im usually more antsy, in kill-mode. I don't know why I guess I've just had more bad experiences at night than day.
 
templnite;659416 said:
Your libido is higher at night? I guess your brain is hard-wired for darkness. At night im usually more antsy, in kill-mode. I don't know why I guess I've just had more bad experiences at night than day.

Yeah, I never get horny during the day, only at night.
 
Try to build one routine i don't like this alternate thing..build one solid routine and be consisent with that.How fast do you jelq per rep?I mean do you have a 1 sec rep or a 3 sec rep?

Jelqing and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] should give you great expansion , you are clearly doing something wrong.

I agree
 
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