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Ok guys heres my starting thread, tried PE a number of times in the past but never stuck with it, now is my time to really progress and start gaining, hopefully with your guys support I will get there

unfortunately not big starting off and I don't get to see a lot of small guys with big gains on here but hey ho we will try :)


Starting

EG : 4.9"
EL : 5.75"

Goal

EG : 6"
EL : 7.5"

I'm really hoping this is achievable, currently I'm using

[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] in 5 min sessions (currently only once a day though)
jelqs in between the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] sessions

15 mins x Manual stretching
15 mins x V stretch

1-3 hrs in egobooster (silicone cup stretcher)

I do have a [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]jes[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] but struggle to stay in it without it being too tight and killing blood flow to the head

Any advice appreciated
 
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andyuk;670992 said:
Ok guys heres my starting thread, tried PE a number of times in the past but never stuck with it, now is my time to really progress and start gaining, hopefully with your guys support I will get there

unfortunately not big starting off and I don't get to see a lot of small guys with big gains on here but hey ho we will try :)


Starting

EG : 5"
EL : 5.75"

Goal

EG : 6"
EL : 7.5"

I'm really hoping this is achievable, currently I'm using

[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] in 5 min sessions (currently only once a day though)
jelqs in between the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] sessions

15 mins x Manual stretching
15 mins x V stretch

1-3 hrs in egobooster (silicone cup stretcher)

I do have a [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]jes[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] but struggle to stay in it without it being too tight and killing blood flow to the head

Any advice appreciated

Welcome to the Brotherhood Andyuk! Your routine looks awesome. As far as you [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] goes I suggest you pick up the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words], it is a much better way to attach in an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. It will work perfectly with yours. Simply click: [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] and it will bring you to the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Matters of Size[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] Page.
 
Thanks DLD will check it out

apologise for double post as I found my old post from years ago but will stick with this one as didn't do much in that time so fresh start

Anyway for first time this morning I incorporated [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] into my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] routine and where I can usually push to around 6.8" I managed 7.05" which I was amazed at , first time ive done [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] and will definitely be using them again , so far today ive done the following

3x 5 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] inbetween
400 kegals
40 minutes manual stretches
40 mins v stretches
2.5hrs in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]

Anything i should be doing, luckily I'm off this week so don't usually get that much time, would love to do [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] twice a day but missis gets suspicious if i have 2 showers a day


Also i have some [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]male extra[/words] pills coming which will hopefully aid gains
 
done so far today

20 mins stretching
20 mins v stretches
400 kegals
3 x 5 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] with ring on afterwards

currently sat in my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for next 1-2hrs before I do some stretches again later

After this morning I have the fattest turkey neck ive seen lol (on me that is), any good ideas of reducing this? hoping stretching is helping after
Also anyone know way of reducing blistering from [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]? it does go after a period but stops me wearing it longer

thanks
 
I started at 6*5, got to 7.75*5, stopped for years, went to 7.5*5, dabbled another few years, then found some stuff I could at least enjoy a little, and now I'm at 8.15*5.5-6+(getting thicker from under the head to the base). Now I want to top my remote and my ok grip under the head. So 8.6+*6.5+.

Some things work better than others, and with poor form some of it won't work at all. Just have to be persistent and make sure you are doing what you're actually trying to do. Kegels are important. Bundles, when you get to them, can really help you take off. Consistency is key. Cementing is easy, but necessary.

Welcome to the big weird world of pe.
 
My [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Male extra[/words] pills have arrived :), here's hoping they help with the gain I'm after
 
andyuk;671157 said:
Anything i should be doing, luckily I'm off this week so don't usually get that much time, would love to do [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] twice a day but missis gets suspicious if i have 2 showers a day

You can certainly go twice a day but this will greatly depend on privacy and bathroom use. You could pump dry if that helps your situation. I personally like the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] with water. The only critique I will give here is read through the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] thread, in that thread there is a section on Tunica work. This is very important as it is a relatively new revelation. You will want to do Bundle Stretching before both girth and length work. This will help pre stretch your Tunica to allow for greater growth and, as I said, the full information is in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words].



andyuk;671300 said:
done so far today

20 mins stretching
20 mins v stretches
400 kegals
3 x 5 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] with ring on afterwards

currently sat in my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for next 1-2hrs before I do some stretches again later

After this morning I have the fattest turkey neck ive seen lol (on me that is), any good ideas of reducing this? hoping stretching is helping after
Also anyone know way of reducing blistering from [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]? it does go after a period but stops me wearing it longer

thanks


Turkey Neck is getting a lot of action lately. I suggest you follow Simian's posts as he is dealing with this, successfully, right now.
 
will check that out DLD, for some reason I thought the v stretches helped the tunica?

had a lengthy session throughout the day yesterday and little soldier was well worn out , one thing I noticed, don't know if its the increase in intensity that I'm doing or starting with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]male extra[/words] pills
 
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ok so far today

30 mins of stretches
20 mins v stretches
20 mins bundles ( thanks DLD added to routine today)
300 kegals

1Hr in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]
[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Male extra[/words] tabs

3 X 6 mins of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] inbetween, only hit 6.9" in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] as little soldier is kinda worn out so didn't want to push it :)

gonna have another 1-2hrs in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] this afternoon
 
andyuk;671462 said:
ok so far today

30 mins of stretches
20 mins v stretches
20 mins bundles ( thanks DLD added to routine today)
300 kegals

1Hr in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]
[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Male extra[/words] tabs

3 X 6 mins of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] inbetween, only hit 6.9" in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] as little soldier is kinda worn out so didn't want to push it :)

gonna have another 1-2hrs in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] this afternoon

Certainly sounds like enough to gain. Just make sure you keep up your intensity. Are you going to be doing this daily? How long does all that stretching actually take between switching hands and all that? You can break that up throughout the day and maybe even add to it since it's not all at once.

Looks good really, almost 2 hours of manual work is really impressive. Ideally you want to extend 4+ hours a day once you get the hang of it. Many have gone 8+ in all day stretchers, which is what I opted for when I was concentrating on length. You should also consider doing bundles before other stretching. Perhaps between sets. They weaken the tunica, which helps make other stretching more effective.
 
Yes sir. Hit the bundles before your routine. Do them while you warm up as well. I tried that ego booster before, the clip will just rip out of it after a while. Sucks coz it's comfy. I bought 2 for that reason. The [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] or Phallason [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Forte[/words] definitely increase time under tension and connected with an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] increases it even more. How are you staying extended throughout the day? Are you doing the beginners stretches and then V-stretches?
I started smaller than you. I was around 5.35-5.5 length and 4.5 girth. I've grown and am still growing now. You'll definitely get your goal. No doubt.
 
I'm off work so 2hrs is capable, when I'm back at work it will be hard to increase on the 2hrs but should be able to maintain, hopefully the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] will eat up the other hours

after my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s today I slapped on my new cock ring for a while afterwards to maintain girth, problem now is I have an even bigger turkey neck whick looks very odd and is slightly tender to touch, been 3.5hrs and it hasn't gone down so currently in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] trying to stretch it out

Any other methods to ease it down?
 
Thanks runningignus need to brush up on correct terminology ,its near the frenulum, so guessing fluid retention, how did I mix the 2 lol, in that case any tips on avoiding it or getting rid or does everyone get it
 
Everybody gets it at some point. Some more than others really. It could be the cock ring and not letting it reduce itself, it usually shows when starting a different routine or something new applied like the cock ring. It's just the bodies response to stress or damage. After continuing on the same routine, it eventually goes away. It's not harmful, just showing you overdid it a little or just a certain exercise. I can use my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words] for 8 sets of 6 minutes with massaging in between and get little fluid retention, but if I do [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s, I swell up lol. I stopped all girth work until I get my length. I'm at 5.25 girth now and that's good until I hit 6.75-7 length. Do jelqs after your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] session to move the fluid around and out your penis. Definitely helps me. That's one reason I stopped girth work. The girth and fluid can sometimes hinder my length work. Your still kinda new so doing both will definitely work to your advantage. Just don't over do it. A slower pace is better than a dead stop because of a problem or injury. Keep us updated and this thread alive OK brother.
 
andyuk;671491 said:
Thanks runningignus need to brush up on correct terminology ,its near the frenulum, so guessing fluid retention, how did I mix the 2 lol, in that case any tips on avoiding it or getting rid or does everyone get it


Welcome my new Brother to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]! I wanted to also give you a list of words and their meaning. It is in The Glossary of Terms. This should help you with much of the words and abbreviations we use here.
 
Had a mammoth day, hopefully haven't overdone it, fluid retention from earlier has near enough gone and penis is feeling good, have sat on my arse all day which helps with time, tomorrows different as I'm travelling but will still aim for min 2 hr workout, for now I feel like my routines are actually having a meaningful outcome albeit not noticeable yet :) , only thing I cant master yet is the wrap to maintain length, flaccid is quite small so when wrapped tightly it just looks wrong lol and often it doesn't hold

todays workout

50 mins of stretches
40 mins v stretches
5 mins erect stretching
40 mins bundles ( thanks DLD added to routine today)
800 kegals

3.5Hr in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]
2 x [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Male extra[/words] tabs

3 X 6 mins of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] inbetween
 
Why don't you try sports wrap as [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]. It sticks to itself, so should be much simpler to use
 
andyuk;671578 said:
Had a mammoth day, hopefully haven't overdone it, fluid retention from earlier has near enough gone and penis is feeling good, have sat on my arse all day which helps with time, tomorrows different as I'm travelling but will still aim for min 2 hr workout, for now I feel like my routines are actually having a meaningful outcome albeit not noticeable yet :) , only thing I cant master yet is the wrap to maintain length, flaccid is quite small so when wrapped tightly it just looks wrong lol and often it doesn't hold

todays workout

50 mins of stretches
40 mins v stretches
5 mins erect stretching
40 mins bundles ( thanks DLD added to routine today)
800 kegals

3.5Hr in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]
2 x [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Male extra[/words] tabs

3 X 6 mins of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] inbetween

Great workout. I am kind of confused on your question on wrapping. Are you saying the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] wrap is failing to hold the stretch?
 
well been out most of the day but managed to get a bit of a workout

2 hrs in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]
3 X 6 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] inbetween
400 kegals
2 x [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]male extra[/words] tabs
20 mins stetching
10 mins bundles
20 mins jelqing


better than nothing, DLD with the wrap when I put it on it my penis shrivelled back underneath the wrap, maybe I didn't do it tight enough, tried not to stop blood flow that's all

Thanks
 
right fluid rentention around the top of my penis is starting to concern me, just done my 3x 6 Bathamte routine with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s and I have a pretty darn big ring, it makes it hard to pull back over the tip of the penis and to jelq afterwards

am I doing too much in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]? is it the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s doing it? or any tips of reducing /stopping it or will it just go with time as I keep doing it

Does go down in the day and in some ways like last night when I had it late on missis could tell during sex (bonus I guess!!)
 
You can do erect massage with heat, that is the best way to help it go. Remember that edema doesn't get pumped around the body like blood does. It relies on gravity, and movement to be siphoned out. It will get better as you practice your routines too
 
had a decent workout today, had lazy day again (back to work Monday tho)

500 kegals
10 mins bundles
2 x [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]male extra[/words] tabs
150 jelqs
3 x 6 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] inbetween
cock ring for 1hr

got a lot of fluid retention from [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session so left a few hours then recently

1.5hr in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] ( Need to sort blistering)

25 mins stretching
15 mins v stretch/ DLD blasters
10 mins erect stretching
300 kegals
15 mins bundles
 
its there before I use the cock ring tbh, might try normal jelqs instead of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] but then again I like the benefits of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s

it disappeared after around 4 hrs none PE work so may do a few more days to see if it still persists
 
andyuk;671851 said:
right fluid rentention around the top of my penis is starting to concern me, just done my 3x 6 Bathamte routine with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s and I have a pretty darn big ring, it makes it hard to pull back over the tip of the penis and to jelq afterwards

am I doing too much in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]? is it the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s doing it? or any tips of reducing /stopping it or will it just go with time as I keep doing it

Does go down in the day and in some ways like last night when I had it late on missis could tell during sex (bonus I guess!!)

My experience says keep doing what you're doing as long as you're back to default by morning. It will eventually require more intensity to get that effect because you'll become conditioned for it. A lot of people say that doing [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] daily is not a good idea. I do two sets at 15 minutes straight and I don't wake up with water retention and my girth gains have been pretty strong with it.

I personally think if you power through it you'll see better gains on measuring day. If you want to play it safe nobody would fault you but it will definitely affect the rate you gain.
 
andyuk;671995 said:
its there before I use the cock ring tbh, might try normal jelqs instead of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] but then again I like the benefits of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s

it disappeared after around 4 hrs none PE work so may do a few more days to see if it still persists
I always get fluid, sometimes very strong although the worse part always subsides within four hours I think. Some days I'll wake up with a little bit still, but it doesn't get in the way so all is good.
 
Todays routine early done


500 kegals
10 mins bundles
30 mins v stretch / dld blasters
2 x [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]male extra[/words] tabs
200 jelqs
10 mins erect stretching
3 x 6 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] / jelq inbetween
cock ring for 30 mins after [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]

got a lot of fluid retention again from [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session but going down ok

just about to do 1.5hrs in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] to finish off
 
quieter day due to work then footy but still managed

400 kegals
20 mins v stretch/dld blasters
3 x 6 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]/Jelqs inbetween (fluid retention still there but lot better)
30 mins after with cock ring on
2 x [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]male extra[/words] tabs
10 mins bundles

may finish now with an hour in my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] if I can


stupidly got my tape measure out last night which I shouldn't of done a week in as I didn't see any real gains, not gonna measure for another month
 
andyuk;672153 said:
quieter day due to work then footy but still managed

400 kegals
20 mins v stretch/dld blasters
3 x 6 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]/Jelqs inbetween (fluid retention still there but lot better)
30 mins after with cock ring on
2 x [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]male extra[/words] tabs
10 mins bundles

may finish now with an hour in my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] if I can


stupidly got my tape measure out last night which I shouldn't of done a week in as I didn't see any real gains, not gonna measure for another month

I've done that and crushed my motivation a few times. Really just gives you a hollow feeling. It'll be OK though. Your routine has been pretty solid and I'd find it a little odd if you didn't creep your way up the ruler in a month when you go to measure again. Might not be the epic gain you'd hope, but getting out of the gate is the first step in making the long run.

Don't get discouraged from anything but measuring too soon. :p
 
yea leaving till end of month before anymore measurement that's for sure

today a lot quieter day with time against me

3 x 6 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] inbetween
40 mins in cockring
2 x [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]male extra[/words] tabs
450 kegals
20 mins v stretch
20 mins stretching
10 mins bundles
45 mins in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]

Hopefully better than nothing , managed to push to 7.2" in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] tonight which pleased me, seems harder I push [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] more fluid retention
 
andyuk;672334 said:
yea leaving till end of month before anymore measurement that's for sure

today a lot quieter day with time against me

3 x 6 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] inbetween
40 mins in cockring
2 x [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]male extra[/words] tabs
450 kegals
20 mins v stretch
20 mins stretching
10 mins bundles
45 mins in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]

Hopefully better than nothing , managed to push to 7.2" in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] tonight which pleased me, seems harder I push [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] more fluid retention

I've used [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] for six months consecutive twice a day in 15 minute sets. Fluid retention almost never lasts for longer than a few hours, and even less often overnight. Just stay consistent with it and keep an eye on whether the retention gets worse day to day.

Borninfigi has also reported that using a cock ring during his [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] sessions hells keep water retention from becoming an issue. Perhaps once you're more used to the bathroom you'll want to give that a try. He's also reported that his expansion is generally greater with the ring also.
 
steady night again, not getting much time in evening, cheers for support, in flaccid its feeling more fuller longer all the time, will keep pushing myself, tonights workout:-

3 x 6 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] inbetween
400 kegals
25 mins stretch
10 mins bundle stretches
25 mins v stretch
150 jelqs
2 x [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]male extra[/words] tabs
going to do 30-60 mins in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] now
 
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andyuk;672438 said:
steady night again, not getting much time in evening, cheers for support, in flaccid its feeling more fuller longer all the time, will keep pushing myself, tonights workout:-

3 x 6 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] inbetween
400 kegals
25 mins stretch
10 mins bundle stretches
25 mins v stretch
150 jelqs
2 x [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]male extra[/words] tabs
going to do 30-60 mins in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] now

Excellent that you are seeing changes in flaccid size. Your workout looks great. Sorry I have not been able to keep up but had a couple days I could not get on.
 
quiet 2 days ( forgot to log on yesterday) really had no time but managed something

yesterday

2x 6 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] , no cockrng after though
20 mins v stretch/ dld blasters
100 jelqs
300 kegals
10 mins bundle stretches


today
10 mins bundle stretches
1hr [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]
250 kegals
20 mins stretches


back on it from tomorrow , bit gutted I couldn't do too much over past 2 days but I'm hoping anything is better than nothing
 
back on track today with the below workout

3 x 6 mins [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] and jelqs inbetween
3 hrs with cockring on after
2 x [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]male extra[/words] tabs
150 jelqs
20 mins bundle stretches
40 min v stretch/ dld blasters
400 kegals
5 mins erect stretches (hard to keep erect to do them)
1hr so far in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], trying to do some more as we speak
 
andyuk;672937 said:
back on track today with the below workout

3 x 6 mins [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] and jelqs inbetween
3 hrs with cockring on after
2 x [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]male extra[/words] tabs
150 jelqs
20 mins bundle stretches
40 min v stretch/ dld blasters
400 kegals
5 mins erect stretches (hard to keep erect to do them)
1hr so far in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], trying to do some more as we speak

Glad you got back to work and the work looks intense!
 
forgot to update but over tonight and last night done the following

6 x 6 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]/jelqs inbetween
2 hrs of cockring after
4 x extramale tabs

1hr manual stretches
45 mins v stretch/dld blasters
35 mins bundle stretches
500 kegals
200 jelqs
10 mins erect stretches
1.5 hrs in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]
 
andyuk;673159 said:
forgot to update but over tonight and last night done the following

6 x 6 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]/jelqs inbetween
2 hrs of cockring after
4 x extramale tabs

1hr manual stretches
45 mins v stretch/dld blasters
35 mins bundle stretches
500 kegals
200 jelqs
10 mins erect stretches
1.5 hrs in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]

Definitely have the right attitude. That's a ton of work for anyone. You keep that up and you're going to need a suitcase to carry it in.
 
hes got a ton of exercises to perform..:O

i think the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] can help him better but would be great to know if gets gains out of his routine:)
 
shortdick;673234 said:
hes got a ton of exercises to perform..:O

i think the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] can help him better but would be great to know if gets gains out of his routine:)

I agree, he is doing a great deal of work and I think that is great as long as he can handle it. I agree also with incorporating as much of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] into his training as possible. I will stop in everyday to check up on things.
 
Would love a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] to do my stretches (pennies don't stretch far enough unfortunately), I really am trying to do as much as I can with no total rest days, there may be days when I have to cut down routine though.apart from flaccid hanging and feeling better I'm not feeling much difference tbh when erect

what ive found is since starting esp with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] so regularly I'm struggling with my EQ, which with kegals and my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]male extra[/words] tabs I'm surprised at :(

anyway tonights routine

10 mins bundle stretches
3 x 6 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with jelqs inbetween (struggling to keep hard enough for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words])
25 mins stretches (different directions
25 mins v stretch / dld blasters
150 jelqs
5 mins erect stretches
1hr in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]
250 JELQS
 
You'll lose EQ until you become accustomed. Nothing to bug about. Once your body returns, it'll be stronger and bigger, just wait and see. We've all been through it. Each thread will have it in there.
 
andyuk;673333 said:
Would love a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] to do my stretches (pennies don't stretch far enough unfortunately), I really am trying to do as much as I can with no total rest days, there may be days when I have to cut down routine though.apart from flaccid hanging and feeling better I'm not feeling much difference tbh when erect

what ive found is since starting esp with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] so regularly I'm struggling with my EQ, which with kegals and my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]male extra[/words] tabs I'm surprised at :(

anyway tonights routine

10 mins bundle stretches
3 x 6 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with jelqs inbetween (struggling to keep hard enough for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words])
25 mins stretches (different directions
25 mins v stretch / dld blasters
150 jelqs
5 mins erect stretches
1hr in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]
250 JELQS

[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] does tend to have a temporary impact on eq. Especially when you start doing multiple sets close together. You may want to try some light days with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] to kinda balance things so your eq is consistent. Ideally, you figure out a set schedule for your routine that allows you to be as intense as possible without diminishing eq. Takes some time and tinkering though.

Balancing intensity against your eq is a big step in having a successful girth routine. If it were just length you'd just want to kegel like mad to keep yourself fatigued. Girth makes that much trickier but hardly impossible.
 
Funny you say that because when my eq starts to hurt a few minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] has me raging again. That's because the vacuum flushes your cock with oxygen/nutrients while removing toxins. I know you don't go to the gym but there you'll find guys massaging their muscles before lifting, this is for the same purpose.
 
templnite;673412 said:
Funny you say that because when my eq starts to hurt a few minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] has me raging again. That's because the vacuum flushes your cock with oxygen/nutrients while removing toxins. I know you don't go to the gym but there you'll find guys massaging their muscles before lifting, this is for the same purpose.

My guess is the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] bites kinda rule out that property of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] for me. The discomfort definitely impacts arousal for the duration. Really going to need to find a solution for that since I'm definitely not going to stop using it.

I can't complain either. Getting [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] bites in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] is almost a compliment from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].
 
got an [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hercules[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words], worth upgrading to [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words]? My bottom [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]comfort pad[/words] is coming off too on my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hercules[/words]
 
The pad isn't a big deal bro, but you can buy replacements if you want
 
andyuk;673537 said:
got an [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hercules[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words], worth upgrading to [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words]? My bottom [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]comfort pad[/words] is coming off too on my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hercules[/words]

Same thing happened to mine. Really had no impact.
 
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