Hanging (Bib Starter) and Extending (Sizegenetics), NEED ADVICE

[LOveMEat]

Okay, I have been hanging with the bib starter hanger for about 9 months. However, most recently about 3 months ago I began to experience alot of shaft twisting in the hanger, the twisting caused alot of numbness and made hanging unbearable. I tried for 3 MONTHS to adjust my wrap, add wrap, toe in toe out, etc...Nothing helped. ( I have yet to removed the gel padding).

I am still hanging, but i am twisting the shaft to the other side, it doesn't cause numbness on one side for some odd reason. the problem is that I cant go to high in weight or the hanger will slip more and more towards the head. I am quite sure that I have maxed my lig gains as I have asked and shown bib. ( I gained about .35" EL from the ligs, over an 1" in BPFSL) I might have a bit more to gain in the ligs but its impossible to max it out at my current routine.


Right now I am hanging BTC 3 sets x 9lbs-7.5lbs at 15 mins each. Then after that I am strapping into the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegenetics[/words] for 3 hours. I am hoping to gain from the tunica as I extend upwards.

My theory is that while I am hanging BTC i am not only cementing the gains I have made, but I am also making the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] more effective...

My question is, should I reach fatigue first in hanging and then strap in to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], right now 3 sets is the minimum where i start to dabble in fatigue area. I have been at that weight for almost 2 months. still reaching that fatigue...I am also worried about turtling or a negative pi at adding in more hanging sets..

Has anyone gained doing this type of routine? I really need some advice on getting some gains to happen!

 

[cg1]

Okay, I have been hanging with the bib starter hanger for about 9 months. However, most recently about 3 months ago I began to experience alot of shaft twisting in the hanger, the twisting caused alot of numbness and made hanging unbearable. I tried for 3 MONTHS to adjust my wrap, add wrap, toe in toe out, etc...Nothing helped. ( I have yet to removed the gel padding).

I am still hanging, but i am twisting the shaft to the other side, it doesn't cause numbness on one side for some odd reason. the problem is that I cant go to high in weight or the hanger will slip more and more towards the head. I am quite sure that I have maxed my lig gains as I have asked and shown bib. ( I gained about .35" EL from the ligs, over an 1" in BPFSL) I might have a bit more to gain in the ligs but its impossible to max it out at my current routine.


Right now I am hanging BTC 3 sets x 9lbs-7.5lbs at 15 mins each. Then after that I am strapping into the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegenetics[/words] for 3 hours. I am hoping to gain from the tunica as I extend upwards.

My theory is that while I am hanging BTC i am not only cementing the gains I have made, but I am also making the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] more effective...

My question is, should I reach fatigue first in hanging and then strap in to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], right now 3 sets is the minimum where i start to dabble in fatigue area. I have been at that weight for almost 2 months. still reaching that fatigue...I am also worried about turtling or a negative pi at adding in more hanging sets..

Has anyone gained doing this type of routine? I really need some advice on getting some gains to happen!

LOveMEat,

First of all, if you are cementing gains, you are not supposed to reach and ride fatigue. That is for making gains. If you've only gained 0.35" in EL in the last nine months from hanging, then cementing would surely be a waste of time, because you're going to lose some of that gain during the cementing process anyway ... so you're going to do all of that work to cement, what, 0.1"? Doesn't make sense. If you're only going to hang 3 sets of 15 minutes at nine pounds, you should probably just quit hanging. That is not enough stress to do anything. Just stick to manual exercises and extending, and you should probably do fine. The manuals alone will provide more stress than nine pounds, so just quit hanging. You will not gain with 45 minutes a day hanging mini weights.

 

[cg1]

LOveMEat,

If, however, you need help with your technique (twisting issues, etc...) I can try and help you out.

 

[Ironwill1984]

Keep hanging increasing the weight then redo your LOT and work at the different angles that you may have possibly changed to.....keep up the good work

 

[LOveMEat]

LOveMEat,

First of all, if you are cementing gains, you are not supposed to reach and ride fatigue. That is for making gains. If you've only gained 0.35" in EL in the last nine months from hanging, then cementing would surely be a waste of time, because you're going to lose some of that gain during the cementing process anyway ... so you're going to do all of that work to cement, what, 0.1"? Doesn't make sense. If you're only going to hang 3 sets of 15 minutes at nine pounds, you should probably just quit hanging. That is not enough stress to do anything. Just stick to manual exercises and extending, and you should probably do fine. The manuals alone will provide more stress than nine pounds, so just quit hanging. You will not gain with 45 minutes a day hanging mini weights.

Well the reason I am hanging still is to break those barriers for the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] to do its job. I am in no way trying to cement my gains right now, only to grow more!

I also cant increase the weight due to my technique, and my issues with the twisting..

How about if I increase the sets to 5 and then extend?

 

[LOveMEat]

Keep hanging increasing the weight then redo your LOT and work at the different angles that you may have possibly changed to.....keep up the good work

Thanks Ironwillrofl I would love to do tunica hanging, but with my bib starter its really rough on the head. It will cause numbness at the higher weights im sure.

 

[cg1]

LOveMEat,

Nothing wrong with a few hours of extending per day. But again, if you're only doing three hours extending, you won't ain much, so you would really need to add more hanging sets and work up to a higher weights to see significant results. Tell me what your problem/s is/are with your techique, specifically, and I'll help you. Once you break the 10+ barrier, that is when you probably will START making gains. So you need to be patient. Five sets per day is a really good start. Let me know what your problems are.

 

[LOveMEat]

I can extend more honestly, i just need to do some more hours in either hanging or extending to (hopefully) gain. I'd prefer to stop hanging all together since its such a hassle for me to do it and extending together, but like i said, i do it so the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is more effective. In order for me to get up to 10 sets a day, id first stop using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], and then just use a legntHydromaxaster to hang since the bib isnt working for me.

What hanger are you using?

 

[cg1]

LOveMEat,

I use the HardCore. Hanging 22 lbs.

Good luck.

 

[DLD]

Subscribing

 

[LOveMEat]

Hey everyone, so with the knowledge of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] theory (makes plenty of good points on pe in general/ gains) I have decided to keep reaching "fatigue" in my hanger, then strap on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for at LEAST 4 Hours a day.

This way the penis that is now tired and fatigued (jelly like state) can be healed in an ultimately larger state. Whether or not this will work, I am sure that it will at least bring me some flaccid gains.

I am currently doing 3 sets of hanging, then moving onto 3hours of extending. Next week ill either increase the sets of hanging or the hours in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

What do you think DLD? I am also waiting for that damn [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] so I can try out the hanging with it!

 

[LOveMEat]

Also, I'd love to commit to the entirety of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] routine, but Hanging with the BIB hanger, and using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is a big NO for me. It hurts wayy to much to hang post [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session.

I think after my routine is over, a nice edging session with erect stretches might work...??

 

[DLD]

Also, I'd love to commit to the entirety of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] routine, but Hanging with the BIB hanger, and using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is a big NO for me. It hurts wayy to much to hang post [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session.

I think after my routine is over, a nice edging session with erect stretches might work...??

Well just be sure to pick from the 3 food groups

Expressive
Tunica
Ligamental

and be sure to apply the healing agents as you can directly from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]. I can review your plan and we can help you make it complete and make sure it will address every component that [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] uses. I mean, a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetic[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] is the best way to heal the penis in length work, plain and simple, the best but this does not mean that a user who does not have a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] can't use UncleJim'sWrap or LazyAssStretches to mimic. In all three groups there are the "best" methods but there are also incredible alternatives. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] can be done completely manual, if one desired. It would not be as fast as the ,most advanced methods but it would still be a gang buster for gains.

 

[LOveMEat]

Well just be sure to pick from the 3 food groups

Expressive
Tunica
Ligamental

and be sure to apply the healing agents as you can directly from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]. I can review your plan and we can help you make it complete and make sure it will address every component that [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] uses. I mean, a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetic[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] is the best way to heal the penis in length work, plain and simple, the best but this does not mean that a user who does not have a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] can't use UncleJim'sWrap or LazyAssStretches to mimic. In all three groups there are the "best" methods but there are also incredible alternatives. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] can be done completely manual, if one desired. It would not be as fast as the ,most advanced methods but it would still be a gang buster for gains.

Haha, awesome. Here is my plan & Goals. (after almost 3 years of pe'ing)

PLAN: Gain an inch (1") in length in 3-6 months.:s

Devices & Supps: [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words], Bib Hanger, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] (soon)
[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]MaleExtra[/words]

Current Routine: 7 days on (1 rest day on sundays when needed)

9am- warm up 10 mins
Begin Hanging w/Bib 3 sets x 9lbs-7.5lbs @ 15mins BTC ANGLE (Hanging will increase sets in the weeks to come, attempting to reach fatigue in the ligaments with it.)- Ligmental

REST-1Hour

12pm- warm up again for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] use.
Extend for a minimum of 4 Hours in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words], [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Traction[/words]: 1200-1500grams (Upwards angle)-Tunica

Get to work, and also wear jims wrap when not in [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

Evening will consist of Edging for 10 mins while introducing Erect Stretches- Expressive?

*what about turtling issues, should I continue to wrap and extend if turtled? i'm curious.


I also have the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] which I use on Fridays and Saturdays in the evening for 15 mins. ( Pre-sex expansion )

Measurements: BPenis EnlargementL 7.2", EG 4.5-4.7", BPFSL 7.5-7.6"


How's it looking? maybe I should make a log.

 

[LOveMEat]

I'm not sure why but today I woke up and my penis was definitely not wanting to cooperate with the excersices. I think it might have been the addition of the erect stretches last night or the extra hour in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]...

Either way I did 4 sets of hanging today, and just finished the first hour of extending. My penis feels tougher/ more resilient to stretching, im not getting that jelly state I crave...

 

[DLD]

Evening will consist of Edging for 10 mins while introducing Erect Stretches- Expressive?

*what about turtling issues, should I continue to wrap and extend if turtled? i'm curious.

Expressive would be any of the following:
[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] Hardcore Stretches [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] Low Grip using Bundle Chamber [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PowerAssist[/words] ring stretching
Low grip manual stretching
Low grip using bib hanger

Turtling will be dealt with wrapping or [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words]

 

[LOveMEat]

So today I almost got that damn bib to work (keep the head straight) seems like extending is helping out with keeping the CC's straight or something? I really don't know.

What I do know is that my dick after a whole days routine is realllyy stretched and skinny. I feel like eventually its all going to be worth it, but in the meantime this is HARD work.

This week I will finally be adding another hour in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] to make my routine this:

4 sets x 15 mins 9-7.5lbs (bib)

Then extending for 4 hours. (this week i'm going to try to add the medium bar to help extend past my bpel)

Hoping for a successful week, with no negative pi's!

 

[DLD]

Then extending for 4 hours. (this week i'm going to try to add the medium bar to help extend past my bpel)

This is very exciting! Please push yourself to make this happen! That is how the gains are made!

 

[LOveMEat]

This is very exciting! Please push yourself to make this happen! That is how the gains are made!

Thanks DLD, great to hear from you. Quick question, how exactly should i measure myself inside the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], from the middle of the base or on the side?

 

[DLD]

Thanks DLD, great to hear from you. Quick question, how exactly should i measure myself inside the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], from the middle of the base or on the side?

That is up to you. I like to center it right on my pubic bone. If I go to the left or the right I always end up with inconsistent measurements, they are always longer but inconsistent.

 

[LOveMEat]

That is up to you. I like to center it right on my pubic bone. If I go to the left or the right I always end up with inconsistent measurements, they are always longer but inconsistent.

UPDATE:

I am finding it increasingly difficult to incorporate my hanging sets, it seems like the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is healing the attachment point for using my bib. Granted i am attaching it incorrectly, as my head is rotated at about 45 degrees to the left. (the entire shaft is twisted in the hanger).

I really want to ditch the hanger and just use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], but at the same time i dont wanna mess up any progress I made...(no gains yet however)


I think i will take the weekend off using the hanger and see how just extending works for me.

CANT WAIT TO BUY THE DAMN [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]!! PUT ME ON THE PREORDER LIST LOL

 

[LOveMEat]

i am literally sweating and almost brought to tears using this piece of shit.

 

[DLD]

i am literally sweating and almost brought to tears using this piece of shit.

Stop! Breath! Let the frustration go. Come back to this when you feel able. What is the biggest difficulties you are having? Let us try to take each item and find a solution.

 

[cg1]

i am literally sweating and almost brought to tears using this piece of shit.

Your problems may not be as bad as you think. A twist of up to 45 degrees depending on where the hanger is situated on the shaft is not uncommon. I have good experience with this. Tell what what you're feeling, what your issues are, and I will try my best to help you.

 

[LOveMEat]

WELL this BLOWS! as soon as I start making good progress with my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words], the damn tension screws get stripped..I'll be sending it in to the quality control team tommorow, so i looks like i'll be out of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for a good week+

During this short break ill be doing lots of manual stretching, and trying to see if I can get the bib to work ONE LAST TIME.

I am attaching about 1.5" from the corona, and I would attach a bit closer, but it does slip during the sets due to the fact that I am attaching it semi-sideways. It really is the only way for my head not to become numb from the twisting. (ironic huh? to minimize the pain, I twist the head even more.) I sits about 75 degrees to the left. I wrap with SS material, and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap. Both 8 inches long.

This week I will be removing the gel liner to see if that helps at all with my attachment issues.

 

[cg1]

WELL this BLOWS! as soon as I start making good progress with my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words], the damn tension screws get stripped..I'll be sending it in to the quality control team tommorow, so i looks like i'll be out of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for a good week+

During this short break ill be doing lots of manual stretching, and trying to see if I can get the bib to work ONE LAST TIME.

I am attaching about 1.5" from the corona, and I would attach a bit closer, but it does slip during the sets due to the fact that I am attaching it semi-sideways. It really is the only way for my head not to become numb from the twisting. (ironic huh? to minimize the pain, I twist the head even more.) I sits about 75 degrees to the left. I wrap with SS material, and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap. Both 8 inches long.

This week I will be removing the gel liner to see if that helps at all with my attachment issues.

It is not slipping because you are attaching it sideways, it is slipping because your adjustments are not correct. 75 degrees to the left is very bad - you shouldn't hang that way.

If your head is getting numb, it is probably because the hanger slipped down to the head, pressing against the dorsal nerve. When attaching 1.5 inches from the coronal ridge, tighten about 1/4 of the way, and pulse push gently. You should feel the shoulders of the glans beginning to form. Continue tightening until you are about half way there, and pulse push again. By this point it should be obvious where the hanger is going to be seated. Make sure you press down on the front of the wrap with your thumb, and pull the bottom of the hanger upward at the same time with your other fingers, while keeping a forward tension as you finish tightening to discomfort. There should be a gap of about 1/2" to 1" between the coronal ridge and the front edge of the hanger. Could be less, but there must always be a good gap.

If the hanger is sliding to the head, then you either need to add more wrap, or move the adjustment nuts in, so that the hanger will be tighter. Why are you only using 8 inches of wrap? What is the width of your wrap?

 

[DLD]

It is not slipping because you are attaching it sideways, it is slipping because your adjustments are not correct. 75 degrees to the left is very bad - you shouldn't hang that way.

If your head is getting numb, it is probably because the hanger slipped down to the head, pressing against the dorsal nerve. When attaching 1.5 inches from the coronal ridge, tighten about 1/4 of the way, and pulse push gently. You should feel the shoulders of the glans beginning to form. Continue tightening until you are about half way there, and pulse push again. By this point it should be obvious where the hanger is going to be seated. Make sure you press down on the front of the wrap with your thumb, and pull the bottom of the hanger upward at the same time with your other fingers, while keeping a forward tension as you finish tightening to discomfort. There should be a gap of about 1/2" to 1" between the coronal ridge and the front edge of the hanger. Could be less, but there must always be a good gap.

If the hanger is sliding to the head, then you either need to add more wrap, or move the adjustment nuts in, so that the hanger will be tighter. Why are you only using 8 inches of wrap? What is the width of your wrap?

Excellent advice CG1! What do you think Lovemeat?

 

[LOveMEat]

It is not slipping because you are attaching it sideways, it is slipping because your adjustments are not correct. 75 degrees to the left is very bad - you shouldn't hang that way.

If your head is getting numb, it is probably because the hanger slipped down to the head, pressing against the dorsal nerve. When attaching 1.5 inches from the coronal ridge, tighten about 1/4 of the way, and pulse push gently. You should feel the shoulders of the glans beginning to form. Continue tightening until you are about half way there, and pulse push again. By this point it should be obvious where the hanger is going to be seated. Make sure you press down on the front of the wrap with your thumb, and pull the bottom of the hanger upward at the same time with your other fingers, while keeping a forward tension as you finish tightening to discomfort. There should be a gap of about 1/2" to 1" between the coronal ridge and the front edge of the hanger. Could be less, but there must always be a good gap.

If the hanger is sliding to the head, then you either need to add more wrap, or move the adjustment nuts in, so that the hanger will be tighter. Why are you only using 8 inches of wrap? What is the width of your wrap?

I really appreciate your advice cg1, but your response is full of knowledge i already understand..take a look at my thread on bib's forums http://www.bibhanger.com/forums/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1695(if your curious) and you will see that I have tried for many months to cure the twisting. I wish I could hang more, but the twist is just a friggen nuisance to using the bib..


This is what brought me here to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] the most. I figured using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] for hanging would improve my situation. I'm sure it will take time to master it as well, but at least the twisting will be F***king gone. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] brought me here, but DLD got me to stay

I really feel like there is something to his [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] theory, and will more than likely participate 100% when I have all the tools necessary. Ill make a log and post updates to show any gains *crosses fingers*

 

[cg1]

I really appreciate your advice cg1, but your response is full of knowledge i already understand..take a look at my thread on bib's forums http://www.bibhanger.com/forums/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1695(if your curious) and you will see that I have tried for many months to cure the twisting. I wish I could hang more, but the twist is just a friggen nuisance to using the bib..


This is what brought me here to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] the most. I figured using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] for hanging would improve my situation. I'm sure it will take time to master it as well, but at least the twisting will be F***king gone. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] brought me here, but DLD got me to stay

I really feel like there is something to his [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] theory, and will more than likely participate 100% when I have all the tools necessary. Ill make a log and post updates to show any gains *crosses fingers*

Listen, once you gain some experience, and you know what you're doing as far as wrapping and attaching the hanger, the gains that can be made are endless. You are giving up because you don't have the patience for it, but you are going to regret not sticking with it. In a years time, you'll gain a little bit of length by doing manuals, but you'll reflect back to the day you quit hanging and think to yourself, "imagine the gains I could have made by now, hanging 30 pounds".

It can be a real bitch-and-a-half learning how the damn hanger works for you, but all you could do in the meantime is just keep experimenting. Change the hanger settings, add wrap, refine your technique. All penises have the same goddamn anatomy. It is YOU who needs to understand how it works, and make it work. When you hit a plateau with manuals, like I have, you're going to quickly realize that in order to gain more, you are going to need more force than what your hands can provide. Also more [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words]. So don't throw in the towel on hanging yet. Learn it, gain from it.

If you need any help with your hanging, ask me. Ask other hangers as well, experienced ones who know what they are doing.

About the twisting: do as I said above, and see how that works for you. Follow the directions exactly. Try and keep the head as straight as possible. However, please know that a twist of up to 45 degrees at times is completely normal, and it should not discourage you. You will still gain the same way.

Ask questions if you need to. Good luck.

 

[DLD]

Listen, once you gain some experience, and you know what you're doing as far as wrapping and attaching the hanger, the gains that can be made are endless. You are giving up because you don't have the patience for it, but you are going to regret not sticking with it. In a years time, you'll gain a little bit of length by doing manuals, but you'll reflect back to the day you quit hanging and think to yourself, "imagine the gains I could have made by now, hanging 30 pounds".

It can be a real bitch-and-a-half learning how the damn hanger works for you, but all you could do in the meantime is just keep experimenting. Change the hanger settings, add wrap, refine your technique. All penises have the same goddamn anatomy. It is YOU who needs to understand how it works, and make it work. When you hit a plateau with manuals, like I have, you're going to quickly realize that in order to gain more, you are going to need more force than what your hands can provide. Also more [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words]. So don't throw in the towel on hanging yet. Learn it, gain from it.

If you need any help with your hanging, ask me. Ask other hangers as well, experienced ones who know what they are doing.

About the twisting: do as I said above, and see how that works for you. Follow the directions exactly. Try and keep the head as straight as possible. However, please know that a twist of up to 45 degrees at times is completely normal, and it should not discourage you. You will still gain the same way.

Ask questions if you need to. Good luck.

^^^^Good Shit! Very happy with your help with the guys and the time and thought you put into your answers. I hope all the gains you desire come to you with ease!

 

[cg1]

Lovemeat,

Did it ever occur to you, that maybe the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is giving you attachment point issues? If you're extending many hours, it can cause stinging at the attachment point, and that is probably the reason you cannot wear the Bib comfortably.

With the Bib, you have to condition soft tissues before you hang. So wearing an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is probably a bad news for your attachment point. If I were you, I would get rid of the damn [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], and focus on hanging ONLY. Just hang more sets.

 

[cg1]

*condition soft tissues as you hang, in order to be able to hang more weight.

 

[LOveMEat]

*condition soft tissues as you hang, in order to be able to hang more weight.

Loved your response man. Thanks for it, really! Well to be honest this is probably more of a break from the Bib than anything else. Tomorrow I'll try to get it right, again. I don't suppose posting up my wrap and all that everyday wouldn't help me.

So be on the look for an update. First things first. PCE out to that gel liner.

Also, when I emailed bib pics of my cock, he said I had a low exit point, and probably couldn't gain much from the lower angles anymore (gained .35) Therefore, I suppose the tunica is the next step. It's the reason I purchased the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] as I am hoping that the gains can come from there...

What do you think about the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] effects on the tunica, or in gains in general? for hangers who have had over 10 lbs hangin' of their dicks, do you think the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is even worth my time? (if I can't get the bib to work..)

 

[cg1]

Loved your response man. Thanks for it, really! Well to be honest this is probably more of a break from the Bib than anything else. Tomorrow I'll try to get it right, again. I don't suppose posting up my wrap and all that everyday wouldn't help me.

So be on the look for an update. First things first. PCE out to that gel liner.

Also, when I emailed bib pics of my cock, he said I had a low exit point, and probably couldn't gain much from the lower angles anymore (gained .35) Therefore, I suppose the tunica is the next step. It's the reason I purchased the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] as I am hoping that the gains can come from there...

What do you think about the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] effects on the tunica, or in gains in general? for hangers who have had over 10 lbs hangin' of their dicks, do you think the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is even worth my time? (if I can't get the bib to work..)

I do not have much experience with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]. I wore one for a brief period of time, a couple of years ago, and gained nothing. [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extenders[/words] stretch the outer shaft only, and so in order to make significant gains, you must wear one for 8+ hours a day, every day, for years, depending on how much you want to gain. That is more than half of the time that you are awake, every single day. Can you handle living that way? I certainly couldn't. But everyone is different.

A low LOT doesn't mean that your susp. ligs have been fully stretched out yet. Even though gains may be thin in your case, doing dedicated lig work, it is important to get those ligs out of the way (an LOT of 6), so that when you switch to tunica work, all of the force will be on the tunica. So it is not just about making gains hanging at the lower angles. It is also about making more efficient gains when hanging at the upper angles.

The max force that an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] can provide is somewhere in the neighbourhood of six pounds. This is why you must compensate for that by adding time, which is why you must wear one for 8-12 hours per day. With hanging, you START with 5 pounds ... see the difference? If you can find the time to hang 2-3 hours per day (compared to 8-12 hours extending), and especially when you get to higher weights, it beats wearing an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] - there's no doubt about that. You cannot replace extending with hanging, it is nowhere near as effective, as far as gains are concerned.

However, I am not trying to change your mind - you will do what you want to do. Obviously hanging is not for everyone. All I am saying is that you should at least give it a chance. It is worth the hassle to learn it in my honest opinion.

 

[cg1]

*cannot replace hanging with extending

If you have problems with the hanger, PM me.

See you around.

 

[LOveMEat]

*cannot replace hanging with extending

If you have problems with the hanger, PM me.

See you around.

OKAY!! im having a bit of a EUREKA moment! So I decided to keep at it with the attachment issues I was having. I re watched the How to vid for hanging that SWM made, and now i think I have finally done it! I pulse pushed and played around for an hour till i finally was able to keep the head straight and lock it down. ( also removed the fucking gel liner)

The big problem is that IT HURTS LIKE HELL!! when it is complete locked down the pain is very intense, and i suppose its due to a new stress that the cc's aren't used to? I really don't know but I hope that the pain goes away within a couple of days to weeks. For now, I have done 2 sets with it at a very low weight, now I will begin my 3rd set but just with tightening to make the penis used to this type of compression. Beleive me I am in PAIN, but it goes away as soon as I take off the hanger.


CG1, without your advice....man, I probably would have stopped hanging, or continued hanging the wrong way. If this keeps up I am sure I could finally move up in weight eventually. I'll give another update tomorrow to let you guys know if I can replicate what I did today

Thanks for everything, cheers to you!

 

[DLD]

CG1, without your advice....man, I probably would have stopped hanging, or continued hanging the wrong way. If this keeps up I am sure I could finally move up in weight eventually. I'll give another update tomorrow to let you guys know if I can replicate what I did today

Thanks for everything, cheers to you!

That is what this entire Brotherhood is about, men helping men become greater on every level!

 

[cg1]

OKAY!! im having a bit of a EUREKA moment! So I decided to keep at it with the attachment issues I was having. I re watched the How to vid for hanging that SWM made, and now i think I have finally done it! I pulse pushed and played around for an hour till i finally was able to keep the head straight and lock it down. ( also removed the fucking gel liner)

The big problem is that IT HURTS LIKE HELL!! when it is complete locked down the pain is very intense, and i suppose its due to a new stress that the cc's aren't used to? I really don't know but I hope that the pain goes away within a couple of days to weeks. For now, I have done 2 sets with it at a very low weight, now I will begin my 3rd set but just with tightening to make the penis used to this type of compression. Beleive me I am in PAIN, but it goes away as soon as I take off the hanger.


CG1, without your advice....man, I probably would have stopped hanging, or continued hanging the wrong way. If this keeps up I am sure I could finally move up in weight eventually. I'll give another update tomorrow to let you guys know if I can replicate what I did today

Thanks for everything, cheers to you!

Lovemeat,

I am VERY HAPPY to hear that! Congratulation, man!

Now, just so you know, the head is not always going to be perfectly straight. As I've said before, do not get discouraged if it turns up to 45 degrees at times.

The only thing that I have a problem with is that you are feeling pain. PLEASE DO NOT HANG IN PAIN. You will not make better gains hanging in pain than not hanging in pain. You should be able to feel fatigue, and multi-task at the same time. If you cannot multi-task, and you catch yourself gritting your teeth, squeezing your hands, clock watching, etc, do yourself a favour and reduce the weight immediately, to a level that you are comfortable with. Under no circumstance should you fight it. Pain can result in injury, so do not be a hero.

Also, only tighten enough to support the amount of weight you wish to hang. Do not overdo it on the tightening. If you feel the compression of the hanger on your shaft, and it is not slipping down, there is no reason to tighten it more - it is doing its job for the amount of weight you are currently using. As you move up in weight, you will need to tighten more and more. Take it easy with the lighter weights, condition those soft tissues properly, so that you can eventually ang more and more weight. If your soft tissues are sore, reduce the weight. Just do what your body tells you, and you will be fine.

If you ever need help, just ask. Good luck.

 

[LOveMEat]

That is what this entire Brotherhood is about, men helping men become greater on every level!

You know what's funny DLD? It's that I went to bib's forums to ask for his help, and he would return with a response close to "yeah i get it, im just tired of your bitchin'..something along the lines of that.." I come here, and someone who really doesn't need to help me has gone out and really made me re-think about what I was doing. So yes this really is a brotherhood, and I just feel much more comfortable here than other place. Thanks again!

 

[LOveMEat]

Lovemeat,

I am VERY HAPPY to hear that! Congratulation, man!

Now, just so you know, the head is not always going to be perfectly straight. As I've said before, do not get discouraged if it turns up to 45 degrees at times.

The only thing that I have a problem with is that you are feeling pain. PLEASE DO NOT HANG IN PAIN. You will not make better gains hanging in pain than not hanging in pain. You should be able to feel fatigue, and multi-task at the same time. If you cannot multi-task, and you catch yourself gritting your teeth, squeezing your hands, clock watching, etc, do yourself a favour and reduce the weight immediately, to a level that you are comfortable with. Under no circumstance should you fight it. Pain can result in injury, so do not be a hero.

Also, only tighten enough to support the amount of weight you wish to hang. Do not overdo it on the tightening. If you feel the compression of the hanger on your shaft, and it is not slipping down, there is no reason to tighten it more - it is doing its job for the amount of weight you are currently using. As you move up in weight, you will need to tighten more and more. Take it easy with the lighter weights, condition those soft tissues properly, so that you can eventually ang more and more weight. If your soft tissues are sore, reduce the weight. Just do what your body tells you, and you will be fine.

If you ever need help, just ask. Good luck.

You really don't know how much this means to me, whatever happens in the future, at least I can say I overcame this bs problem I had with the twisting. I am sure other men will read this and understand that it can be fixed, just be patient. It has taken me 5 MONTHS to fix the problem. Now just like Cg1 said, it is time to recondition the soft tissues to hanging (here we go again lol). I am hoping to do this quickly though, because im sure that with the way i was hanging before, the tissues are conditioned somewhat.

I am going from hanging at about 75 degrees pointed to the left (or right) to hanging with the head perfectly straight! amazing. Also I have dropped the weight down to 5lbs from hanging 9lbs. I will condition slowly with 3 sets, but I am still using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for healing. (at least till I get to the higher weights.)

Ill keep updating you guys.

 

[cg1]

You really don't know how much this means to me, whatever happens in the future, at least I can say I overcame this bs problem I had with the twisting. I am sure other men will read this and understand that it can be fixed, just be patient. It has taken me 5 MONTHS to fix the problem. Now just like Cg1 said, it is time to recondition the soft tissues to hanging (here we go again lol). I am hoping to do this quickly though, because im sure that with the way i was hanging before, the tissues are conditioned somewhat.

I am going from hanging at about 75 degrees pointed to the left (or right) to hanging with the head perfectly straight! amazing. Also I have dropped the weight down to 5lbs from hanging 9lbs. I will condition slowly with 3 sets, but I am still using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for healing. (at least till I get to the higher weights.)

Ill keep updating you guys.

Lovemeat,

Very good idea to drop down it weight, and slowly work your way back up again. Seems like you're back on track. I'm happy to hear this.

Please do not hesitate to ask for help if you run into any more problems.

Good luck with your hanging.

 

[LOveMEat]

update,

I am back on track and learning to use the hanger all over again, and recondition the soft tissues. I am doing 4 sets @ 5lbs. and then 3 hours in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words]. I cant confirm this but I think I have moved up a bit in bpfsl! Still need to send the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] in to be fixed though.

My plan is to keep reconditioning the soft tissues to hanging, and move up in sets till I reach a max of 6 sets a day. Hopefully within a month or two I will be up to a fatigue reaching weight, and although I dont have much potential from the ligs I will continue onto TUNICA hanging!

Lets do this.

 

[DLD]

You were about to get a tardy notice! Seriously! If you guys don't show up don't be surprised if I hunt you down!

 

[LOveMEat]

You were about to get a tardy notice! Seriously! If you guys don't show up don't be surprised if I hunt you down!

Back again DLD,

Don't hunt me down just yet! So here's the deal. Using the starter w.o padding just didnt work for me. I ended up back at square one using a complete bib starter WITH padding and now I'm healing from a skin tear due to slippage (I was still adjusting the settings, and I think Ive got them good now).

Honestly, I need to pick up the pace. I have been hanging the same flippin weight for over a year. A YEAR. This is due high learning curve that comes with hanging I guess. I'm giving this hanging career about another 6 months, and if I don't see any significant gains well then that's just all about I can commit to hanging.

Routine: 4 sets @ 7.5lbs. (I still can't believe I am at this weight still. It is almost depressing.)

 

[Autonomous]

Hang In There (so to speak) Bro!

I've been Penis Enlargement'ing on/off for couple years, and I can tell you we have ALL been through some depressing training....but it ALWAYS gets Bigger, just not as fast as we like.

I'm kinda new to hanging (I tried [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words], [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PeniMaster[/words]), but I really like the AutoXleeve (using for hanging for 2 weeks) - grabs my whole dick with fairly even tension with no slipping or pain. I can post a photo if you like....I just did 3 hours at 5 lbs after [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] all day. Going to 7lbs in couple weeks...

 

[Apparitions]

Hang In There (so to speak) Bro!

I've been Penis Enlargement'ing on/off for couple years, and I can tell you we have ALL been through some depressing training....but it ALWAYS gets Bigger, just not as fast as we like.

I'm kinda new to hanging (I tried [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words], [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PeniMaster[/words]), but I really like the AutoXleeve (using for hanging for 2 weeks) - grabs my whole dick with fairly even tension with no slipping or pain. I can post a photo if you like....I just did 3 hours at 5 lbs after [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] all day. Going to 7lbs in couple weeks...

I would be interested in seeing a picture of the AutoXleeve in use.

 

[Bryson]

I would be interested in seeing a picture of the AutoXleeve in use.

Me too

 

[helpseeker]

How much have you gained so far?