Newbie5.7";711270 said:
I am focused as f. 1 hour per day. But am not sure about intensity. You told that you think red spots are good [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sign[/words], I didn't have them. I am jelqing on 80-100% level. And you told as well about V-grip, can't use it because glance is losing all blood and he just slips off.

Red spots only if you're doing girth. Not everyone has to have them. Personally thats what I saw them as, progression. Not everyone experiences the same things. Our penises are very different from each other so don't worry about looking for signs. The only signs you should check on are the measurements after a few months.
 
Newbie5.7";711308 said:
I have red it. Thanks very inspiring and educative work.

So happy you took my advice and I hope your learned some good stuff!
 
But I want to get some manual results before I will be ready to invest some money to this process.
I am doing
Bundled stretch 10 minutes
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie routine[/words] (stretching 45sek)
I am doing it almost month. For now can't say for sure whether I gained or not. What would you add DLD? Or 1 hour per day for newbie is enough? I am doing this routine in a row before sleep. Ending this workout with masturbation. Dick is for sure a bit elongated and thicker for some time. It's my way to follow [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]. And I don't use pants for 2 month.
 
Newbie5.7";711554 said:
But I want to get some manual results before I will be ready to invest some money to this process.
I am doing
Bundled stretch 10 minutes
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie routine[/words] (stretching 45sek)
I am doing it almost month. For now can't say for sure whether I gained or not. What would you add DLD? Or 1 hour per day for newbie is enough? I am doing this routine in a row before sleep. Ending this workout with masturbation. Dick is for sure a bit elongated and thicker for some time. It's my way to follow [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]. And I don't use pants for 2 month.

If you are going to masturbate try it before length work this way your penis is more malleable. As far as [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] and healing extended goes, you can just go to Walgreens get an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]Ace Bandage[/words] for like 5 bucks and wrap up after length work.
 
rocky1243;711560 said:
If you are going to masturbate try it before length work this way your penis is more malleable. As far as [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] and healing extended goes, you can just go to Walgreens get an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]Ace Bandage[/words] for like 5 bucks and wrap up after length work.

Indeed, the best time to stretch is right after an orgasm; The penis is in a state of complete fatigue and no muscles will pull back as you stretch.
 
rocky1243;711560 said:
If you are going to masturbate try it before length work this way your penis is more malleable. As far as [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] and healing extended goes, you can just go to Walgreens get an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]Ace Bandage[/words] for like 5 bucks and wrap up after length work.

Always masturbate before a work out if you want to masturbate, this will help a lot especially for length.
 
But what about masturbation before jelq. Because I am jelqing right after stretching. And on my glance appeared I would not say spots but some little deformations. So it's not so glance anymore, is it okay?
 
Newbie5.7";711763 said:
But what about masturbation before jelq. Because I am jelqing right after stretching. And on my glance appeared I would not say spots but some little deformations. So it's not so glance anymore, is it okay?

Masturbation before girth is not all that great because it can affect the intensity of your girth session. But hey I got a buddy that can masturbate 11 times a day so maybe you are one of those guys. Can you do length and girth hours apart from each other? Masturbation is great for stretching but its not necessary you can also use heat, you should probably use heat every time regardless. Personally I do length and girth one right after the other, and after girth I go straight into a cock ring. I don't masturbate every day, if this is something you must do then like I said before separate them with long hours apart or do them in separate days.
 
Can I use instead of cock ring some hair rubber?

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And what if I would wear it while asleep anyway cock will get flacid.

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And what if I would wear it while asleep anyway cock will get flacid.
 
Newbie5.7";711802 said:
Can I use instead of cock ring some hair rubber?

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And what if I would wear it while asleep anyway cock will get flacid.

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And what if I would wear it while asleep anyway cock will get flacid.

I tried the hair rubber cock ring,it works well,you just gotta tie a knot in it to make it tighter if its too big
 
rocky1243;711778 said:
Masturbation before girth is not all that great because it can affect the intensity of your girth session. But hey I got a buddy that can masturbate 11 times a day so maybe you are one of those guys. Can you do length and girth hours apart from each other? Masturbation is great for stretching but its not necessary you can also use heat, you should probably use heat every time regardless. Personally I do length and girth one right after the other, and after girth I go straight into a cock ring. I don't masturbate every day, if this is something you must do then like I said before separate them with long hours apart or do them in separate days.

Yeah in terms of girth it really depends if you can still get really hard and get good expansion
 
rocky1243;711778 said:
Masturbation before girth is not all that great because it can affect the intensity of your girth session. But hey I got a buddy that can masturbate 11 times a day so maybe you are one of those guys. Can you do length and girth hours apart from each other? Masturbation is great for stretching but its not necessary you can also use heat, you should probably use heat every time regardless. Personally I do length and girth one right after the other, and after girth I go straight into a cock ring. I don't masturbate every day, if this is something you must do then like I said before separate them with long hours apart or do them in separate days.

Exactly. Good eq is detrimental in girth work. Masturbation before girth would bring a terrible session as EQ would be very hard to attain. This is not for all men as some men have a very short refractory period, time between orgasm and erection. But for most men masturbation before girth is a bad idea.

Also to add the counter piece to this; Masturbation before stretching is the best way to stretch as upon orgasm we lose eq and there is no muscle pull back from the Pelvic Floor Muscles.
 
doublelongdaddy;711819 said:
Exactly. Good eq is detrimental in girth work. Masturbation before girth would bring a terrible session as EQ would be very hard to attain. This is not for all men as some men have a very short refractory period, time between orgasm and erection. But for most men masturbation before girth is a bad idea.

Also to add the counter piece to this; Masturbation before stretching is the best way to stretch as upon orgasm we lose eq and there is no muscle pull back from the Pelvic Floor Muscles.

because it has been exhausted so only do masturbate before length routine if you still can get hard for girth or if you're not doing any girth that day
 
Understood. So now for two weeks I will jerk and stretch without jelqing. Hope I will find at least some results. For now as I see nothing changed which is demoralising and hard. Maybe I am stretching wrong. Or it's not time yet, but seems to me that I am doing everything right, so guys If you can advise something or send me some exercise examples I would be very grateful. Megamike gained 0.5" I would even happy to get 0.1" but I still don't, or it's hard to measure.
 
Newbie5.7";711884 said:
Understood. So now for two weeks I will jerk and stretch without jelqing. Hope I will find at least some results. For now as I see nothing changed which is demoralising and hard. Maybe I am stretching wrong. Or it's not time yet, but seems to me that I am doing everything right, so guys If you can advise something or send me some exercise examples I would be very grateful. Megamike gained 0.5" I would even happy to get 0.1" but I still don't, or it's hard to measure.

Just dont jerk too much. Stick to 3-4 times a week otherwise you'll fatigue your dick and wont have good quality erections
 
kyomoto;711886 said:
Just dont jerk too much. Stick to 3-4 times a week otherwise you'll fatigue your dick and wont have good quality erections

But do not refrain from masturbation for more than a week. Masturbation, especially for single men, is a proper release to a carnal craving. Just like food, drink, sleep, etc. Masturbation or the release of an orgasm is important. It alleviates stress, it keeps the penis in good working order, it can also really help benefit to endurance. Masturbation becomes a problem when it becomes obsessive. Usually with obsessive masturbation comes excessive pornography, which is detrimental to the male thought process on sexuality. My advice is to keep viewing material as innocent as possible and to be disciplined in how often and even how long this goes on.
 
doublelongdaddy;711941 said:
But do not refrain from masturbation for more than a week. Masturbation, especially for single men, is a proper release to a carnal craving. Just like food, drink, sleep, etc. Masturbation or the release of an orgasm is important. It alleviates stress, it keeps the penis in good working order, it can also really help benefit to endurance. Masturbation becomes a problem when it becomes obsessive. Usually with obsessive masturbation comes excessive pornography, which is detrimental to the male thought process on sexuality. My advice is to keep viewing material as innocent as possible and to be disciplined in how often and even how long this goes on.

I read somewhere that sex/having an orgasm can help with depression/improving one's mood :)
 
doublelongdaddy;711941 said:
But do not refrain from masturbation for more than a week. Masturbation, especially for single men, is a proper release to a carnal craving. Just like food, drink, sleep, etc. Masturbation or the release of an orgasm is important. It alleviates stress, it keeps the penis in good working order, it can also really help benefit to endurance. Masturbation becomes a problem when it becomes obsessive. Usually with obsessive masturbation comes excessive pornography, which is detrimental to the male thought process on sexuality. My advice is to keep viewing material as innocent as possible and to be disciplined in how often and even how long this goes on.

Once a month for those that don't like to masturbate lol
 
I didn't even consider getting up with masturbation. But on main question you didn't answer, so please do
Is it okay to masturbate after girth workout, having previously length workout? It is what I was doing last month.
 
Newbie5.7";712027 said:
I didn't even consider getting up with masturbation. But on main question you didn't answer, so please do
Is it okay to masturbate after girth workout, having previously length workout? It is what I was doing last month.

It is definitely ok to do that, but the point that we where trying to get accross is that masturbation is ideal before length work. However it is not ideal if you are also do girth right after because you might loose intensity in your girth session. Perhaps do one day on and one day off?
 
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And there is only one change which I can see. My glance has many deformation spots so it is not glancing anymore. It looks even ill I would say. Is it permanent? Even my girl after a bj said me that she thought it was really glance and now there is something wrong with him. I have made some measurements and saw that I get stretch my dick fine but on actual NBPEL which is my aim it didn't influence at all.
 
Dropped girth for now too understand are those deformation permanent or not. But seems to me that it could be from length workout as well, because I hold my glance really hard to stretch.
 
Munto;711943 said:
I read somewhere that sex/having an orgasm can help with depression/improving one's mood :)

Indeed it does. Let me try to explain this is other terms. Your body has carnal cravings that need to be addressed, when you get hungry you need to eat, when you get thirsty you need to drink; Along these same lines is sex. without sex or the release of an orgasm much stress will build and it can lead to depression. Now I am not giving permission to everyone to gloat themselves in masturbation, what I am saying is when the desire builds, something needs to happen or you will drive yourself insane. So, for me, someone who is celibate, I have these carnal desires and they need to be filled. So as I hunger and address that with food, and when I am thirsty I address that by drinking, when I am horny I address that with masturbation.

Keeping these examples in mind we need to look at gluttony and if we are satisfying a need or are we allowing ourselves to overindulge? Too much food causes weight gain, depression and addiction. If we masturbate too much it has very similar effects, we lose erection quality, it becomes addictive and ultimately you will become desensitized and the pleasure will elude you.

All things in moderation!
 
kyomoto;712572 said:
in terms of ejaculation yes

Any kind of pleasurable relationship with your penis whether it is alone or with a partner is still sex.
 
doublelongdaddy;712788 said:
Any kind of pleasurable relationship with your penis whether it is alone or with a partner is still sex.

then why was masturbation coined

sex:
either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and many other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.
 
kyomoto;712862 said:
then why was masturbation coined

sex:
either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and many other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.

Who knows, to me sex is sex, with self or others. But, according to the dictionary, you are correct.
 
I feel that sex is the ultimate connection between 2 people. It is the closest you will ever be with another person. Sex can be the ultimate way to show your affection to another person. Of course sex can just be to get off as well and to have a little bit of fun lol. Sex is great haha:)
 
eugine8plz;713248 said:
I feel that sex is the ultimate connection between 2 people. It is the closest you will ever be with another person. Sex can be the ultimate way to show your affection to another person. Of course sex can just be to get off as well and to have a little bit of fun lol. Sex is great haha:)

Literally brings you two close lol. But I also agree in a way :)
 
eugine8plz;713248 said:
I feel that sex is the ultimate connection between 2 people. It is the closest you will ever be with another person. Sex can be the ultimate way to show your affection to another person. Of course sex can just be to get off as well and to have a little bit of fun lol. Sex is great haha:)

:) sweet lol
 
kyomoto;713261 said:
Literally brings you two close lol. But I also agree in a way :)

Well it does bring my hand much closer to my penis :)
 
Big Schwanz Acht;713398 said:
very true, and it's also when you're the most vulnerable...but that's where the 'magic' happens :)

and then BAM you gottem. Slip that sucker in and giver the ride of your life. But be loving and caressing unless she wants it hard and dirty.
 
Big Schwanz Acht;713398 said:
very true, and it's also when you're the most vulnerable...but that's where the 'magic' happens :)

Exactly lol! I was always too scared to have sex in my mid teens because I thought I wasn't big enough! But now I have a bit more confidence and don't care what people think as much, even though I would still like a bigger size lol:) but yes it truly is magic aha
 
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