e's clamping experiment

c.phantasy;344870 said:
Ithiel, before you measure,be sure to let your unit rest a few days.

The tissue does not grow in the gym,it grows outside the gym ;)
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yea you right, sound advice. Ill probably take a day or two off. That way it be good to see if permanent gains came.
 
Pissed. Absolutely no gains in any category. Obviously hehe, no girth gains. I'm taking the next couple of weeks or so off. I think that might be best for me right now, and just stick to a PC routine. I think Ill come back hittin the girth real hard, something ridiculously intense knowing that I will have the time for it in the coming future. When I say I will go "balls to the wall" I mean it, youll see the routine I'll be doing.

So for right now I am kinda frustrated. THe last 4 weeks my routine wasn't as solid and intense as the previous 4 but I still done shit! Ima step away, re-evaluate and come out with a hardcore ass clamping routine that will sure to get me gaining.
 
You will come back stronger, and since you have an amazing dedication, the girth gains will come sooner or later. You are a true Penis Enlargement hero!
 
Thanks for the praise.

So I really decided that I can't stay away, the past few days seems like my erections subsided and my girth just aint there like it was. So for the next few couple weeks I will do a sort of maintenance routine that will keep some type of expansion and shit who knows, might get me some type of gains. Here's what I'll be doing:

1 set of 10 minute double clamping
immediately I remove 1 clamp and begin
1 set of 10 minute clamped bends

That;s it. To me, this is weak shit. Really, I shouldn't even mention this being part of the experiment but I thought I might as well just throw it out there. No ADC or ANC this time around.

I like to improvise with the clamped bends a bit so I kinda do it like a isolated compression squeeze where you move the blood around at one angle. That being: up, left, right, down. IF that shit makes any sense? Shout out to Girth Hammer for digging this exercise up, I forget about this shit.
 
UPDATE:

I measured my BPenis EnlargementR length and guess what? 3cm increase. Man, for some reason I just gain length with ease. Nothing in NBPenis EnlargementR. Shit came out o nowhere...
 
Girth Hammer;346064 said:
ITHIEL, You think your sudden length gain came from clamped bends? I do all the time LOVE that expansion.[/QUOTE

Who knows. I didn't get in many sessions. I do see how clamped bends would give length gains. You can actually feel the tunica stretch, I especially feel it when bending upwards.
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It's been a shitty few weeks doing this routine. I just havent been consistent at all. Half the time, I wasnt doing it. I got like a couple weeks left and ima be sure to be consistent in the closing stretch.

I can def. tell tho, when not doing girth work my erections aint as good. I got something real big coming up in the next run, so be ready!
 
Like I said I been inconsistent but pickin up the slack these last few days. I'm more horny and getting good erections. So thats what I noticed. When I do girth work, I get bomb ass erections and feel the need to tap some ass! When not doing it, I feel the opposite come on.
 
Done this phase. I havent measured yet tho but will real soon.

So continuing with the clamping experiment, I got something new for the next 4 weeks and most likely longer after that. What I'm doing is taking the hangin approach with this. I will focus on maximum expansion time, fatigue, and try to keep good intensity.

So I can't really write down a "set" routine I'll be doing but ima put down what I be doing:

I will DOUBLE CLAMP (intensity) for many sets a day as much as I can (expansion time). Obviously I will be lookin for some type of fatigue to hit me when doing this.

Now I cant say how much and for how long Ill be doing this each day, but it will be increasingly a lot. I will log in the times as much as I can, probly on a daily basis.

And tonight, I did 1 25 minute set... and the shit continues... :)
 
Hey E, I read threads by you and SWM alot. It seems that you 2 think "more is better" and daily work and save the light shit for the newbies mindset. I love doing long sessions but when I say stuff like "3-4 hour girth session" the guys here hate it. When I try these I never have negative PI's and I think this is way to grow. What do you think?
 
homelesswombat;348386 said:
Are you edging/stimulating yourself when you are clamped? I was never clear on that.

I'm eager to hear your measurement/gains report!
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not edging but I'm keeping a good erection.
 
Girth Hammer;348426 said:
Hey E, I read threads by you and SWM alot. It seems that you 2 think "more is better" and daily work and save the light shit for the newbies mindset. I love doing long sessions but when I say stuff like "3-4 hour girth session" the guys here hate it. When I try these I never have negative PI's and I think this is way to grow. What do you think?
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damn right! I don't know why people think the penis needs rest. It aint no muscle. The penis can take heavy ass work. It's like saying your heart needs a rest from time to time.
 
I aint realize that I still have 1 more week (little less now) to go with the previous routine. Totally forgot. So now you know the routine ill be doing NEXT WEEK, and measuring next week to see if/what I gained from this routine which you can find somewhere here.
 
I just jumped into this new routine today. The other shit, I don't feel like I was gaining. I did a quick measure today and I was right. Shit was way too light for me I think. So now Im getting a few extra days start on this new shit.

I did like 3-4 sets today.
 
Sets vary now from 10-30 min., I like to switch shit up. I did quite a handful of sets today. Anywhere from 4-6. And rememeber, this just the beginning. :)
 
Done like 45 minutes total today. I might be onto somethin here, I really feel like my dick is growing. I notice larger increases in total volume when clamping.
 
I probably mentioned that during the previous phases I wouldnt be doing the weekends. During this phase, I will. Haven't missed a day yet and I intend on keepin it that way. No matter what going on I will do at least a couple sets. But still on most days I'm going strong. Less then a hour but Ill bump it up.
 
ithiel;348494 said:
damn right! I don't know why people think the penis needs rest. It aint no muscle. The penis can take heavy ass work. It's like saying your heart needs a rest from time to time.
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Sorry to object, but I need to clarify a point here...

I work as a personal trainer. I have studied anatomy, biology, physiology, and chemistry. I think its safe to say that I know a little bit about the ins and outs of the human body...

Now... Is the penis striated muscle (skeletal muscle)? No. Which means the tissues that make up the chambers of the penis have no voluntary contractile capabilities (but the PC muscle is, which can help shunt blood into the arteries of the penis). The tissues of the penis are smooth muscle. And any type of muscle tissue can grow once it has been stressed and allowed a recovery, albeit everyone has their specific needs. All types of muscle tissue need periods of lowered intensity/rest to enable positive adaptation (tissue growth, increased cardiac output/strong, lower resting Heart Rate). Likewise, the heart... if you continuously train it intensely without rest, a heart attack would ensue - possible from neuro-muscular failure.

Maybe you should try to take a day off every few days of intense training. In most regards, If you over-train/over-stress the body, it will cease to grow. Several theories exist for this phenomenon... some of these theories indicate a predominance of catabolic hormones that impede protein synthesis (tissue growth).

Just some thoughts...
 
Douglas Hamlin;350435 said:
Sorry to object, but I need to clarify a point here...

I work as a personal trainer. I have studied anatomy, biology, physiology, and chemistry. I think its safe to say that I know a little bit about the ins and outs of the human body...

Now... Is the penis striated muscle (skeletal muscle)? No. Which means the tissues that make up the chambers of the penis have no voluntary contractile capabilities (but the PC muscle is, which can help shunt blood into the arteries of the penis). The tissues of the penis are smooth muscle. And any type of muscle tissue can grow once it has been stressed and allowed a recovery, albeit everyone has their specific needs. All types of muscle tissue need periods of lowered intensity/rest to enable positive adaptation (tissue growth, increased cardiac output/strong, lower resting Heart Rate). Likewise, the heart... if you continuously train it intensely without rest, a heart attack would ensue - possible from neuro-muscular failure.

Maybe you should try to take a day off every few days of intense training. In most regards, If you over-train/over-stress the body, it will cease to grow. Several theories exist for this phenomenon... some of these theories indicate a predominance of catabolic hormones that impede protein synthesis (tissue growth).

Just some thoughts...
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You do got a point, and maybe it some case you right. But this is after all a experiment. So as you can see, if you been following my routine changes in this experiment I am experimenting with all different kinds of clamping methods. This time around it's a 7 day a week thing.
 
ithiel;350497 said:
You do got a point, and maybe it some case you right. But this is after all a experiment. So as you can see, if you been following my routine changes in this experiment I am experimenting with all different kinds of clamping methods. This time around it's a 7 day a week thing.
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For sure. I do understand the nature of your experiments... and I do believe that the frequency/intensity that you have implemented in the past should work (for fuck sake, why not!? lol). And from what I have observe from your feedback is that - for the most part - the intensity remains constant, and the frequencies (how many times/day your train) and durations (the length of each session) are the variables that continue to change from one experiment to the next. What also remains constant is daily activity - no rest.

I truly wish you the best of luck - we could all benefit from your experiments/experiences. But if each new experiment continues to produce little to no gains, try going back to one of them that you like and add a day of rest every 2-3 workouts. See if that works.

:)
 
ithiel;350497 said:
You do got a point, and maybe it some case you right. But this is after all a experiment. So as you can see, if you been following my routine changes in this experiment I am experimenting with all different kinds of clamping methods. This time around it's a 7 day a week thing.
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For sure. I do understand the nature of your experiments... and I do believe that the frequency/intensity that you have implemented in the past should work (for fuck sake, why not!? lol). And from what I have observe from your feedback is that - for the most part - the intensity remains constant, and the frequencies (how many times/day your train) and durations (the length of each session) are the variables that continue to change from one experiment to the next. What also remains constant is daily activity - no rest.

I truly wish you the best of luck - we could all benefit from your experiments/experiences. But if each new experiment continues to produce little to no gains, try going back to one of them that you like and add a day of rest every 2-3 workouts. See if that works.

:)
 
ithiel;350497 said:
You do got a point, and maybe it some case you right. But this is after all a experiment. So as you can see, if you been following my routine changes in this experiment I am experimenting with all different kinds of clamping methods. This time around it's a 7 day a week thing.
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For sure. I do understand the nature of your experiments... and I do believe that the frequency/intensity that you have implemented in the past should work (for fuck sake, why not!? lol). And from what I have observe from your feedback is that - for the most part - the intensity remains constant, and the frequencies (how many times/day your train) and durations (the length of each session) are the variables that continue to change from one experiment to the next. What also remains constant is daily activity - no rest.

I truly wish you the best of luck - we could all benefit from your experiments/experiences. But if each new experiment continues to produce little to no gains, try going back to one of them that you like and add a day of rest every 2-3 workouts. See if that works.

:)
 
Douglas Hamlin;350527 said:
For sure. I do understand the nature of your experiments... and I do believe that the frequency/intensity that you have implemented in the past should work (for fuck sake, why not!? lol). And from what I have observe from your feedback is that - for the most part - the intensity remains constant, and the frequencies (how many times/day your train) and durations (the length of each session) are the variables that continue to change from one experiment to the next. What also remains constant is daily activity - no rest.

I truly wish you the best of luck - we could all benefit from your experiments/experiences. But if each new experiment continues to produce little to no gains, try going back to one of them that you like and add a day of rest every 2-3 workouts. See if that works.

:)
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Yeah apart from this cycle (previous 2 weeks, next 2 weeks), I been taking off the weekends that is. Mostly because of time. When I was doin the 24/7 clamping that was weekends. This phase theres no days off, so like I think I mentioned I do at least SOMETHING on the most hectic day. Which may be a set or two. I'm averaging about 30-45 minutes of clamping per day so far. Ima try and bump that up a bit in these last couple of weeks but its hard, I'm tryin to do other shit in my life.

But yea, I havent gained shit really thru this whole experiment so far. It's been a good bit too. So you could be right about the whole rest idea. I always had success with "the more you do for length, the more you gain" and I still believe that. Girth is different. Girth is weird.

I been seeing sort of a pattern tho. Seems to me like whenever I begin a new phase, or whatever you wanna call it, I get great temporary gains and pumps but it eventually diminishes. So on that note, this is something that I can take away from this, and work with that. Well see what I gain in a couple of weeks. But at this point, I don't think it will be anything sad to say. The longer it drags, the less expansion I'm seeing.
 
ithiel;350791 said:
Yeah apart from this cycle (previous 2 weeks, next 2 weeks), I been taking off the weekends that is. Mostly because of time. When I was doin the 24/7 clamping that was weekends. This phase theres no days off, so like I think I mentioned I do at least SOMETHING on the most hectic day. Which may be a set or two. I'm averaging about 30-45 minutes of clamping per day so far. Ima try and bump that up a bit in these last couple of weeks but its hard, I'm tryin to do other shit in my life.

But yea, I havent gained shit really thru this whole experiment so far. It's been a good bit too. So you could be right about the whole rest idea. I always had success with "the more you do for length, the more you gain" and I still believe that. Girth is different. Girth is weird.

I been seeing sort of a pattern tho. Seems to me like whenever I begin a new phase, or whatever you wanna call it, I get great temporary gains and pumps but it eventually diminishes. So on that note, this is something that I can take away from this, and work with that. Well see what I gain in a couple of weeks. But at this point, I don't think it will be anything sad to say. The longer it drags, the less expansion I'm seeing.
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When you say that you get "great temporary gains and pumps", is it just fluid build up? Or are you actually experiencing larger flaccids/erections?

When I first started experimenting with clamping exercises (cable clamp + jelq/horse squeeze/edging), I instantly gained 1/16 - 1/8". I was stoked, but then after a programmed rest (4 days off), I realized that the larger flaccids/erections were just retained fluid build-up. After the break, I lost most of the girth that I had gained (possibly yielding a net gain of 1/32" - but really, thats kinda splitting hairs IMHO).

So... I decided to try something new. Now, instead of 3 x 10 minute sets, I am experimenting with 4 x 8 minute sets. Logically, this method actually equates to a greater workout because I am experiencing tension for 32 minutes vs. 30 minutes. The shorter sets ensure less fluid build up, which is also effected by the fact that I am NOT jelqing/horse squeezing at 100% (still edge at 100% - which is necessary). Now I clamp + Jelq and clamp + horse squeeze with a 80-95% erection.

Thus far, I have experienced little to no fluid build up within the workout, and no fluid retention post exercise. It is still too early to conclude (1st week), yet I am experiencing 1/16-1/8 prolonged expansion during erections. With any luck, my gains will progress.
 
No gains on this last phase. I'm puttin a close on the experiment. I aint frustrated, I'm glad because one can never not benefit from this. This was a good run. No gains but it was experimental, the whole point. Would have been nice to see gains but thats cool.

I'm actually still workin on girth but doing other shit, so I'm not putting anything into this experiment. In closing, Ive learned and one can't get enough of that!
 
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