Just busting balls. I appreciate you putting up with my sense of humor or lack of it.

Now getting back to this whole LOT thing. I would care to know a few things. Couldn't a person with a higher lot do all tunica work first? Get all the hard work done fast and then chase the easier stuff gainwise last? If these Bundle exercises change lot later on wouldn't busting my ass doing the hard work make any difference in the end play ANY adavantage with a lot lie resetting it higher to 9 or 10 O'Clock?

Just wanted to ask the experts here. Thanks.
 
I heard this guy named Bigger is Better (Bib) over at Penis Enlargement and Thunder's found his during a visit to the hospital. From what I gather, he injured his back, and had his pelvis X Rayed and saw a film and saw the outline of his inner member in the film. He intially disbelieved it was his X Ray cause it showed more than he thought he had.
 
Although that may have been the case for BIB, I know there is another way one can find out. There has to be a way to find out by feeling .........
 
Originally posted by wannabe9
Although that may have been the case for BIB, I know there is another way one can find out. There has to be a way to find out by feeling .........

Yes, just get an erection and grasp around behind your balls while kegeling and you will find it.

pole
 
Snake,

>Couldn't a person with a higher lot do all tunica work first? Get all the hard work done fast and then chase the easier stuff gainwise last?<

No because lig gains are easier to achieve so if you have a high LOT you can get bigger faster by lig work.

SS4
 
Originally posted by SnakePlissken
I heard this guy named Bigger is Better (Bib) over at Penis Enlargement and Thunder's found his during a visit to the hospital. From what I gather, he injured his back, and had his pelvis X Rayed and saw a film and saw the outline of his inner member in the film. He intially disbelieved it was his X Ray cause it showed more than he thought he had.

But what if inner penis stretches and enlarges during the whole Penis Enlargement process as the outer penis stretches and enlarges?
 
Theoretically possible I guess. But the point I was trying to make was that this was before the hours of hanging were done by almost a decade or so. This means he never yanked his crank before this and was like"Wow! WTF is going on down there?"
 
I am going to start bundleing my Pulse 110's. Since I have been doing 110's I have done them regular grip, I am curious to see if a bundle will boost my intensity.
 
WaxN said:
So - correct me if I'm wrong - but you seem to be saying that guys with a relatively low LOT should focus on tunica - thereby raising their LOT, then attack with lig stretching? And back to tunica again?
I wonder how many times you can effectively raise your LOT before the game is up.


Exactly 4 times :s
 
DLD Bundle Stretches are great!:cool:
I do them evey day with a nice still pipe
this is what help me leave 8'' behind not to knowllage about lot but i like gaines rofl
there fore its a keeper any more tunica streaches please let me know
joeystyles692002@yahoo.com
ps. it don't hurt to buy a kegel master 2000 it helps with the uni-flex
:cool:
 
joey_styles said:
DLD Bundle Stretches are great!:cool:
I do them evey day with a nice still pipe
this is what help me leave 8'' behind not to knowllage about lot but i like gaines rofl
there fore its a keeper any more tunica streaches please let me know
joeystyles692002@yahoo.com
ps. it don't hurt to buy a kegel master 2000 it helps with the uni-flex
:cool:

A very slept on exercise, Bundles really give the extra stretch, especially with Blasters.
 
doublelongdaddy said:
DLD Bundle Stretches change your LOT: No Joke/ This may be HUGE

I have just stumbled on one of the coolest discoveries. You can temporarily change your LOT by doing Bundled stretches. I started to mess with this yesterday. When in a fairly tight Bundle my LOT is visible at almost every level! What does this mean? It could mean the world for those who have low LOTS. I did strictly LIG stretching yesterday in a tight Bundle and my LIGS were screaming up until this morning. I just went to the bathroom and tested my LOT again Bundled and I can get tugback at EVERY increment. If this is the case then this could mean additional LIG stretch we never thought possible.


Hmm I'm confused, I was under the impression that the sooner you lose your tugback the higher your LOT the more your potential for lig gains. So if you get tugback at every angle, it means you have a low LOT. Am I mistaken?
 
swolejah said:
how do you do a bundle stretch?<:(

A bundled stretch is when you take your flaccid penis and twist it, like a cork screw and apply a stretch to it. I prefer Blasters as I think this maximizes the stretch potential for gains.

Vaseline_Knight said:
Hmm I'm confused, I was under the impression that the sooner you lose your tugback the higher your LOT the more your potential for lig gains. So if you get tugback at every angle, it means you have a low LOT. Am I mistaken?


When I bundle my penis my LOT, or loss of tug-back, does not exist any longer even though I have a very low LOT. This forced, exception allows me to make both ligament and tunica gains totally independent of wether or no I have a loss of LOT.
 
Mike so do you twist it all the way around 360 degrees then just pull straight out?
 
doublelongdaddy said:
When I bundle my penis my LOT, or loss of tug-back, does not exist any longer even though I have a very low LOT. This forced, exception allows me to make both ligament and tunica gains totally independent of wether or no I have a loss of LOT.

So could that mean that Bundled stretches (hanging) ultimately hit Ligaments ESPenis EnlargementCIALLY for people with low LOTS who would otherwise not gain from lower angle hanging/stretching? Prince Albert gained 1/4" lately from bundled hanging. Maybe that's lig gains after all
 
swolejah said:
Mike so do you twist it all the way around 360 degrees then just pull straight out?


I go as far, in twists, as I can and still remain pain-free. The idea here is sort of like a wet towel when you twist it and pull it to drain the water. After this is done it is much longer than before. SInce we are dealing with a living part of the body there is cell regeneration so over time this will become a permanent enlargement.

Vaseline_Knight said:
So could that mean that Bundled stretches (hanging) ultimately hit Ligaments ESPenis EnlargementCIALLY for people with low LOTS who would otherwise not gain from lower angle hanging/stretching? Prince Albert gained 1/4" lately from bundled hanging. Maybe that's lig gains after all

I agree. If LOT dictates that gains are limited with a low LOT than Bundles will answer this problem by forcing your ligaments into a twisted position allowing additional length gains.
 
i was perusing through threads of yesteryear and just thought i'd get this back up top for some more action.

loadsa LOT insight across the spectrum.


keep pushing
 
Reber187 said:
i was perusing through threads of yesteryear and just thought i'd get this back up top for some more action.

loadsa LOT insight across the spectrum.


keep pushing


This was a very fun thread, some awesome info too. Keep diggin' in the crates!
 
whoah,all this x and y stuff is a bit confusing, but i see what yall coming with,but im gonna stick with what i know best
STRETCH THE SON OF A BITCH IN ALL DIRECTIONS AS HARD AS I CAN TILL IT HAS NO CHOISE BUT TO GET BIGGER!

still a very good informative read tho.
 
I'm still not QUITE sure what my lot is:

From my belly(2oclock) to 10oclock(a little below straight out) I get a tugback when I Stretch with a Kegel.

But anything below 10oclock, there's no tugback on the KEGEL. Does this mean I have a low lot? I mean I kind of understand LOT theory from reading a bunch of threads but it seems very irrelevant.

Because I'm thinking what does that have to do with the LIGS or anything? Just because I have no tugback below 10oclock doesn't mean the ligs can't be stretched, there's no viability in LOT at all. The ligs extend farther than the exit point.

I think the reason there's no Tugback below 10 for me is because if you feel the Kegel you'll realize it originates from the base but mostly around base of the urethra on back of penis, so it makes sense for there to be no tugback because you're decreasing the distance of the tunica from that point when you're stretching downward, and you're stressing the ligs.
 
k18;601654 said:
I'm still not QUITE sure what my lot is:

From my belly(2oclock) to 10oclock(a little below straight out) I get a tugback when I Stretch with a Kegel.

But anything below 10oclock, there's no tugback on the KEGEL. Does this mean I have a low lot? I mean I kind of understand LOT theory from reading a bunch of threads but it seems very irrelevant.

Because I'm thinking what does that have to do with the LIGS or anything? Just because I have no tugback below 10oclock doesn't mean the ligs can't be stretched, there's no viability in LOT at all. The ligs extend farther than the exit point.

I think the reason there's no Tugback below 10 for me is because if you feel the Kegel you'll realize it originates from the base but mostly around base of the urethra on back of penis, so it makes sense for there to be no tugback because you're decreasing the distance of the tunica from that point when you're stretching downward, and you're stressing the ligs.

The reason I made this thread was to educate men that LOT does not really mean anything when it can be changed with exercise. If LOT held any real science, in my case, I could never have gained what I gained. I was not wiling to believe that my LOT would present me from making gains through downward stretching, especially since I did not care for upward stretching. This thread was meant to remove the anxiety men feel when they realize they have a low LOT.
 
hey dld could you please touch on bundle stretching for me. when doing the bundle type stretches what dose this help with ? as in what is the added advantage over a normal stretch for length ? dose the bundle stretch other areas of the penis as well as a good lig stretch or is it just a more intense lig stretch ? thanks DLD i am just working out how to add bundle stretches into my workout...
 
Bigredcarr1$;627381 said:
hey dld could you please touch on bundle stretching for me. when doing the bundle type stretches what dose this help with ? as in what is the added advantage over a normal stretch for length ? dose the bundle stretch other areas of the penis as well as a good lig stretch or is it just a more intense lig stretch ? thanks DLD i am just working out how to add bundle stretches into my workout...

Bundled Stretches allow for much more intensity to go to the Tunica and the breakdown of it. When the penis is twisted and stretched it creates much more intensity in the stretch. It is like a towel that is wet and you wring it out, when you start the process the towel is at a certain length but when you have finished wringing it out it is much longer, this is where the idea came from. The Tunica needs very intense stretching to cause breakdown so Bundles Stretches do the best job of this.
 
I'm really digging this stretch more then ever now. I always do several bundles straight up first thing in the morning, throughout the day when in the bathroom. Its one of the most effective lengthening methods you could ever wish for!
 
I'm really digging this stretch more then ever now. I always do several bundles straight up first thing in the morning, throughout the day when in the bathroom. Its one of the most effective lengthening methods you could ever wish for!

I’m so happy you’re finding them so powerful. It does make upward stretching much more productive also.
 
I’m so happy you’re finding them so powerful. It does make upward stretching much more productive also.

I got pain in my shaft doing bundled stretching yesterday. Remember when I had to take off a few days because of the intense bundled stretching I was doing Before I started hanging?

I think I can do bundled up to a certain twist, if I try to twist my dick more than 360 degrees, I get pain in my shaft... I don’t know if that’s good or not LOL.

When I first started bundled stretching, I could really do like 1.5 twist, even more sometimes but it looks like my tunica has hardened up and I cannot go all the way anymore, even when I ease into it.

Due to nofap and semen retention and kegel training I have trouble with staying flaccid... So strapping in the Lengthmaster is a bit of a hassle, and now that I think about it, I know where my pain is coming from...

I stay erect in the lengthmaster, the whole damn 10 minutes while stretching and I think erect stretching in the lengthmaster has caused my shaft pain.

I cannot stay flaccid due to my kegels training, and i’m on medication to increase my natural testosterone levels...

My erection quality and frequency is increasing, while this is a good thing, it gives me troubles with lengthmaster stretching because I stay erect during the whole training...

Erect bundles stretching causes shaft pain so I wouldn’t recommend that, or maybe I have to experiment and twist up to a certain treshold.
 
Take a few days off if you feel that you may have strained things a bit. Don’t obsess with getting in lots of twists when you bundle, you only bundle to the point that’s comfortable for you to stretch. Staying erect through length work can be frustrating my advice is to do your length work after you have sex when you’re refractory period is at its peak.
 
Take a few days off if you feel that you may have strained things a bit. Don’t obsess with getting in lots of twists when you bundle, you only bundle to the point that’s comfortable for you to stretch. Staying erect through length work can be frustrating my advice is to do your length work after you have sex when you’re refractory period is at its peak.

Yea I have to ease into it, the only thing that really makes me flaccid is hanging.... My dick cannot fight against that kind of exercise. I hung 3.5 hours last night and then I got depressed and I was on the verge of quitting all this stuff and becoming a monk, but luckily I have slept a bit and now I feel better and I will continue my hanging sets.
 
Yea I have to ease into it, the only thing that really makes me flaccid is hanging.... My dick cannot fight against that kind of exercise. I hung 3.5 hours last night and then I got depressed and I was on the verge of quitting all this stuff and becoming a monk, but luckily I have slept a bit and now I feel better and I will continue my hanging sets.

LOL I am a monk.? You’re so much stronger than your depression, take charge my brother and put depression where belongs in the past.
 
Didn't DLD disprove the LOT theory?

Yup! If lot was correct I never would’ve made the gains I made. It took a while for me to figure this out but I always did downward stretching and I continued to gain way beyond what LOT was supposed to prove. I say play it safe I hit every single angle possible this will you make growth from every angle!
 
DLD Bundle Stretches change your LOT: No Joke/ This may be HUGE

I have just stumbled on one of the coolest discoveries. You can temporarily change your LOT by doing Bundled stretches. I started to mess with this yesterday. When in a fairly tight Bundle my LOT is visible at almost every level! What does this mean? It could mean the world for those who have low LOTS. I did strictly LIG stretching yesterday in a tight Bundle and my LIGS were screaming up until this morning. I just went to the bathroom and tested my LOT again Bundled and I can get tugback at EVERY increment. If this is the case then this could mean additional LIG stretch we never thought possible.

Is this lot theory still flying? I rarely see people talking about it on the forum.
 
Ok. I have done this with a device like the Jes extender but the device without springs for tension. So I would wrap a small bandage around my outer skin just under the glands. I strap the silicone tube then attach to the part your glands rest on. That’s around the bandage below the gland over the skin. Then I twist the penis several times then slide it on to the two bars on each side, then start turning to push the penis forward. You’ll be surprised how far you can streach even when you have twisted the penis several times. Then I would stretch to the right, left, downwards, upwards for several min each way. You can even stretch behind the butt and while lying back ( dangerous so be very careful ) I don’t know how heavy you are ) and while lying back I will do kegals.

Sometimes I would do 30min to an hour. My dick was thick has f…ck the next day for several days and hung well. Am not that big but it looked huge man. You will need to be very careful. Am a bit like DLD. Like to go hard and all the way 😀. I did this three times a week so there was healing in between. WARNING: If you try this please be careful. You don’t have to go to hard. You could just twist once and you should be safe. I wouldn’t want anyone to get injured. Just play it safe and you should be fine. I’ve just been using sillistreacher now. Getting 12 hours a day and happy. I check every 4 hours to see if all ok. Good to have a device that doesn’t annoy you every hour like the Jes extender. I put up with it for 6 months. Actually had it sitting in my draw for the last 15 years. Gave up on it because it was annoying then I found this site and decided to start stretching again. F..ck I would have been huge by now if I knew about this site. Anyways all the best to everyone and I hope you all reach your goals with stretching. Hang well lads 😉
 
What even is lot? And why did it become worthless

LOT, or Loss of Tugback, or medical term is ligamentary oblongation, is a method to stretch your ligaments and base muscles that support your penis to the point of exceeding their capacity to maintain support to gain 0.5in to 2.5in worth of penile length. This practically destroys your suspensory ligments and cause your penis to just droop. The outcome of it is the the penis hanging low, even in its shrunken flaccid state. The reason why it's not looked up on, or deemed worthless, is because of the result where the penis cannot stand straight up, straight out, or support itself during sexual arousal. It has a higher chance for penile fragmentation or fracture during intense sexual activities because the suspensory ligments cannot hold the penis in place.

Ok. I have done this with a device like the Jes extender but the device without springs for tension. So I would wrap a small bandage around my outer skin just under the glands. I strap the silicone tube then attach to the part your glands rest on. That’s around the bandage below the gland over the skin. Then I twist the penis several times then slide it on to the two bars on each side, then start turning to push the penis forward. You’ll be surprised how far you can streach even when you have twisted the penis several times. Then I would stretch to the right, left, downwards, upwards for several min each way. You can even stretch behind the butt and while lying back ( dangerous so be very careful ) I don’t know how heavy you are ) and while lying back I will do kegals.

Ah yes. The fun of passively stretching. We've done this a few times too. I believe the method also have a glans strapping method just using the JES penile head holder and thicker 2in straps connected to the weight system. I also done this in the past for fun while playing games for watching TV. Pretty intense sessions.

Sometimes I would do 30min to an hour. My dick was thick has f…ck the next day for several days and hung well. Am not that big but it looked huge man. You will need to be very careful. Am a bit like DLD. Like to go hard and all the way 😀. I did this three times a week so there was healing in between. WARNING: If you try this please be careful. You don’t have to go to hard. You could just twist once and you should be safe. I wouldn’t want anyone to get injured. Just play it safe and you should be fine. I’ve just been using sillistreacher now. Getting 12 hours a day and happy. I check every 4 hours to see if all ok. Good to have a device that doesn’t annoy you every hour like the Jes extender. I put up with it for 6 months. Actually had it sitting in my draw for the last 15 years. Gave up on it because it was annoying then I found this site and decided to start stretching again. F..ck I would have been huge by now if I knew about this site. Anyways all the best to everyone and I hope you all reach your goals with stretching. Hang well lads 😉

Welcome to this site again brother. Your experience will be valuable to our brothers here. What you've employed then and now will be something to look forward in evaluating. Some of the brothers that have hard gains may get some unique insights to your gains and employ your techniques for their own. More brain power is needed.
 
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Welcome to this site again brother. Your experience will be valuable to our brothers here. What you've employed then and now will be something to look forward in evaluating. Some of the brothers that have hard gains may get some unique insights to your gains and employ your techniques for their own. More brain power is needed.
Indeed welcome back 🙏🏽 we definitely appreciate your feedback as it adds to our data collection. the more questions the better.
 
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LOT, or Loss of Tugback, or medical term is ligamentary oblongation, is a method to stretch your ligaments and base muscles that support your penis to the point of exceeding their capacity to maintain support to gain 0.5in to 2.5in worth of penile length. This practically destroys your suspensory ligments and cause your penis to just droop. The outcome of it is the the penis hanging low, even in its shrunken flaccid state. The reason why it's not looked up on, or deemed worthless, is because of the result where the penis cannot stand straight up, straight out, or support itself during sexual arousal. It has a higher chance for penile fragmentation or fracture during intense sexual activities because the suspensory ligments cannot hold the penis in place.
Ah okay. Is this one of the surgeries people perform, cut that supportive ligament or whatever and then the penis hangs lower?
 
Ah okay. Is this one of the surgeries people perform, cut that supportive ligament or whatever and then the penis hangs lower?
No, that would be a cut of your ligament. But surgery may helpful if the doctor sees if it's necessary.
 
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