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When I get the extra girth from using a pump, it doesn't last very long. How can i get the most girth and make it last the longest?
 
GuerillaMan said:
When I get the extra girth from using a pump, it doesn't last very long. How can i get the most girth and make it last the longest?
As I understand it, pumping causes size increase because it sucks fluid in from the rest of the body; but doesn't particularly stretch the Tunica out which is what you need for permanent changes. Presumably the fluid acts as a cushion around the tunica and stops it stretching.

Clamping exercises are normally better for growing girth I believe because they put increased pressure on the tunica from inside; rather than reduced pressure outside.
 
Let me just start off by saying that I'm a BIG believer in all constriction methods, particularly clamping. Constriction is one of the best ways- maybe the best way- for advanced Penis Enlargement'ers to build lasting girth.

At the same time, I think pumping provides great preparation for later permanent gains in girth. With me, pumping definitely did stretch my tunica and created a lot more "meat" (loose skin, and bigger CS, CC, veins, arteries and other erectile mass) for future enlargement. Throughout the course of my enlargement since my initial pumping about 10 years ago, I've filled out a lot of that extra mass, especially at the base.

The reason I think pumping doesn't provide for lasting enlargement in and of itself, is because it doesn't promote extra bloodflow. Instead, it does just as you say: it sucks fluid in from the rest of the body. That fluid is lymph, whose primary purpose is to fight off infection. Blood, on the other hand, carries oxygen, lipids, hormones and all sorts of nutrients. DHT (testosterone) is one of those hormones and it is this hormone more than any other, which is responsible for permanent penile growth.

So pumping is just awesome for preparing your penis for permanent enlargement, but constriction and other tried-and-true Penis Enlargement exercises are what will actually make your enlargement permanent. In terms of building your circulatory system (veins and arteries), pumping is probably unmatched by any other method. More fluid, in this case lymph, is being pumped through your veins than would normally be possible by any other means. I definitely recommend it for that reason and the others I talked about above.

To cap it all off: pumping is great for temporary gains, stretching your tunica, creating more erectile mass and building your circulatory system up. Constriction and other Penis Enlargement methods, on the other hand, are great for permanent gains- but only because DHT is being allowed to flow through your body. BTW, the DHT flows when you're horny and goes away after you've cum. That's why there is a scientific basis behind the claims about not ejaculating immediately before or after Penis Enlargement sessions.
wolfkeeper said:
As I understand it, pumping causes size increase because it sucks fluid in from the rest of the body; but doesn't particularly stretch the Tunica out which is what you need for permanent changes. Presumably the fluid acts as a cushion around the tunica and stops it stretching.

Clamping exercises are normally better for growing girth I believe because they put increased pressure on the tunica from inside; rather than reduced pressure outside.
 
GuerillaMan said:
When I get the extra girth from using a pump, it doesn't last very long. How can i get the most girth and make it last the longest?
This may be the case when you first start to pump. It does stretch the internal structures. As you progress with pumping the gains made will last longer and longer. Now even if I pump only 1-2 times per week, the temporary gains last several days. When I first started, the gains would only last a couple of hours tops and the size wasn't as much. Now the size is tremendous from all my sessions, and lymph fluid is barely noticeable.
As for the circulatory system, pumping and clamping (constrictors) cause increased blood supply and blood carrying networks. While clamped your body perceives an increase in needed blood supply and slowly over time increases vascularity to compensate. In time, the tunica will start to remain expanded from a clamping session and permanency occurs. Pumping and clamping are a great combination.
 
In a nutshell [I'm living proof this works] constrictors + pumping routine will make you get larger girth and it will cement and never fade.
 
REDZULU2003 said:
In a nutshell [I'm living proof this works] constrictors + pumping routine will make you get larger girth and it will cement and never fade.

wat has been your gains from pumping in el and eg dude? thanx ;)
 
First, I would like to say congrats on your gains, and for sticking to Penis Enlargement this long. I would like to challenge some of your theories though.
Baraka said:
Blood, on the other hand, carries oxygen, lipids, hormones and all sorts of nutrients. DHT (testosterone) is one of those hormones and it is this hormone more than any other, which is responsible for permanent penile growth.
I know this is true in the fetus, but I have read that testosterone is actually more resposible for penile growth. Much more is to be known about this, it may be that IGF-1 is actaully the cheif growth hormone of the penis. Since testosterone, estrogen, insulin, growth hormone, and thyroxine are all needed to convert growth hormone into IGF-1, it could be that as we develope, testosterone does a better job than DHT in the conversion process, or that testosterone's aromatization to estrogen provides the little estrogen needed for IGF-1 production. Damn, I'm a nerd.

Baraka said:
More fluid, in this case lymph, is being pumped through your veins than would normally be possible by any other means. I definitely recommend it for that reason and the others I talked about above.
Lymph has its own system. Should not be present in the veins.

Baraka said:
Constriction and other Penis Enlargement methods, on the other hand, are great for permanent gains- but only because DHT is being allowed to flow through your body. BTW, the DHT flows when you're horny and goes away after you've cum. That's why there is a scientific basis behind the claims about not ejaculating immediately before or after Penis Enlargement sessions.
It is not so much that DHT leaves the penis, it is because ejaculation causes rises in prolactin levels, which cause elevated estrogen levels (relatively speaking).
 
RED,
can you give us a quick routine for clamping combo. pumping!? PLEASE
and an advanced one as well.
Their are so many damn threads on clamping, would help abunch for them girth attackers!
Whens the MOS blog comming??
That site you had on clamping, When I tried the link, it brought me to some weird shit?!?! Do you still have any clamp site, or is the MOS blog is all that's coming??
 
sweets said:
RED,
can you give us a quick routine for clamping combo. pumping!? PLEASE
and an advanced one as well.
Their are so many damn threads on clamping, would help abunch for them girth attackers!
Whens the MOS blog comming??
That site you had on clamping, When I tried the link, it brought me to some weird shit?!?! Do you still have any clamp site, or is the MOS blog is all that's coming??

I dont have a site anymore, couldn't support it.
Quick routine for clamping + pumping would be like this.

5 minute warm-up
10 minutes clamped fully erect [during this time do horse squeezes, jelqs]
10 minutes pumping at medium pressure [read pump guide's for more advice]
10 minutes clamped fully erect [same as 1st]
10 minutes pumping at medium pressure [same as 1st]
5 minute warm down
 
alright, thanks.
Somebody how just works on girth, I think they could get away with clamping 2x's a day, what's your opinion RED?
 
I am sure it is my age too, but I think Penis Enlargement'ing "burns" testosterone. Which in part may explain my low levels when I check it. If I wait 3 days after Penis Enlargement'ing I can get back it to things with my lady. You younger guys have so much of the hormone that you all can wack it, Penis Enlargement, wack it again, and still have sex. Lucky bastards.

What do you think?

goldmember said:
I know this is true in the fetus, but I have read that testosterone is actually more resposible for penile growth. Much more is to be known about this, it may be that IGF-1 is actaully the cheif growth hormone of the penis. Since testosterone, estrogen, insulin, growth hormone, and thyroxine are all needed to convert growth hormone into IGF-1, it could be that as we develope, testosterone does a better job than DHT in the conversion process, or that testosterone's aromatization to estrogen provides the little estrogen needed for IGF-1 production. Damn, I'm a nerd.
 
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