I don't have any answers and neither do the two doctors I have seen about it. They reckon I haven't smoked long enough for it to be a factor.

Good news is, I've quit, I've made wholesale changes to my diet, and natural erections are slowly.......slowly coming back.
 
I don't have any answers and neither do the two doctors I have seen about it. They reckon I haven't smoked long enough for it to be a factor.

Good news is, I've quit, I've made wholesale changes to my diet, and natural erections are slowly.......slowly coming back.

Thats because you've been seeing the wrong specialist my friend. If your car has a leak, a plumber will never find the problem. You need a car mechanic.

When it comes to health, a doctor, MD, no matter what specialty, they are allopathic medicine. Intended to treat trauma and acute conditions. A doctor is USELESS for chronic symptoms and chronic diseases. Thats why they cant cure you. That the proof. They cant cure you because they dont know how to, not because theres no cure.

The have been trained for over 100 years that cures pretty much dont exist. But its not the case. he reason why they make us believe that is because there is no profit in curing. heres profit in treating.

So if you have ED, they come upon with things like viagra that you will have to take for the rest of your life, making them rich. Same with blood pressure issues, diabetes, heart disease, you name it.

A NATUROPATHIC DOCTOR, ND. is the correct specialist for chronic symptoms and diseases. They are he experts in nutritional science to treat and cure conditions and symptoms.

If things like ED were "normal", then by definition EVERYBODY 100% across the board would be impotent after 40. But is not the case. There is cure. And the sure is in essential nutrients and nutrition in general.
 
Interesting ...... expensive for what it is though.

I've never had any surgery or injections into my penis, and went from 6.6 BPEL x 5.5 EG to 8.5 BPEL x 7.2 EG

Sure, if guys want to pay out so much for what can come across falsely as a quick fix, feel free, but its in my mind trying to find a quick solution to something in my experience you cannot accomplish in the long run ... the society today has become much more lazy, expects everything now, sadly you cannot get it all now and have to put in the time, which many will not, hence why these surgery solutions, and fancy chemicals treatments are being touted more and more. Not that everyone who goes under the knife or does chemical PE is lazy.

Even with penis enlargement devices, its not a magic pill and you wont suddenly start sprouting gains ... you have to follow the routine consistently, and go up in intensity .. some have failed to do that, but years ago they used to adhere allot more to that.

Its a MINDSET, very psychological is penis enlargement, like with fitness in general .. if your easily swayed, and like to take shortcuts, you wont reach the target.
You and I started about the same.
Interesting ...... expensive for what it is though.

I've never had any surgery or injections into my penis, and went from 6.6 BPEL x 5.5 EG to 8.5 BPEL x 7.2 EG

Sure, if guys want to pay out so much for what can come across falsely as a quick fix, feel free, but its in my mind trying to find a quick solution to something in my experience you cannot accomplish in the long run ... the society today has become much more lazy, expects everything now, sadly you cannot get it all now and have to put in the time, which many will not, hence why these surgery solutions, and fancy chemicals treatments are being touted more and more. Not that everyone who goes under the knife or does chemical PE is lazy.

Even with penis enlargement devices, its not a magic pill and you wont suddenly start sprouting gains ... you have to follow the routine consistently, and go up in intensity .. some have failed to do that, but years ago they used to adhere allot more to that.

Its a MINDSET, very psychological is penis enlargement, like with fitness in general .. if your easily swayed, and like to take shortcuts, you wont reach the target.
we started out roughly the same size. My goal is to be where you are now. Mind sharing what you did to get there? 8.5 x 7.2 is massive
 
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You and I started about the same.

we started out roughly the same size. My goal is to be where you are now. Mind sharing what you did to get there? 8.5 x 7.2 is massive

Its really late here :) not to be offhanded with you, but see these two massive threads of mine from the past.
My routine threads, its got everything in there.


 
Here is an update about my p-shot experience:

Beside some flacid length gain, I got no gains for BPEL or BPFSL (update: Actually, I just measure myself and I did gain 0.5" in BPEL since first shot!) but I haven't done any length exercises because of my frenulum condition.. Injury takes forever to heal... (whenever my frenulum allows it, I'll do some serious stretching with the Ultrasound device)

I went for my second p-shot last Thursday. Getting a second one was ridiculously discounted so it was a no brainer to take it.

Here is what they say about what to expect in terms of gain from the p-shot. They say that you get immediately enlarged due to the injection in the first 3 days and then gradually come back to the original size and then you are going to regain that first 3 days enlarged size in the following 6 to 8 weeks.

This is consistent with my own observations from the first shot.

For the girth, I basically got 1/4 inch gain per month (per p-shot). So right after coming back from my second p-shot, I was at 5.5" girth. And that is probably what I'm going to end up at in 6-8 weeks from now.
 
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Well, 0.5" gain in BPEL is VERY SIGNIFICANT by all means!!!! That is impressive news!! Could you measure and remeasure to make sure that the 0.5" was not there before?

Thank you so much for sharing your experience with all of us. It give us hope for a new phallic universe.

And congratulations!!!!!
 
It is hard to remeasure past size but I do have pictures with a ruler and and measuring tape that shows the original size. I can remeasure new size and take pictures of the gain....
 
It is hard to remeasure past size but I do have pictures with a ruler and and measuring tape that shows the original size. I can remeasure new size and take pictures of the gain....

Pictures are so important especially in these tests because this determines whether or not people are going to use this. So you and anyone else who’s doing this please keep an awesome and complete record.
 
It is hard to remeasure past size but I do have pictures with a ruler and and measuring tape that shows the original size. I can remeasure new size and take pictures of the gain....


Dont get me wrong brother I am not doubting you!!
I ask if you can remeasure because if I for example one day after a new routine or a procedure like a P-shot saw 0.5" gain on my dick, I would be measuring and remeasuring in disbelief! LOL. You know we always get 0.2-0.3 deviation from measuring depending on the angle of the ruler, how deep you push against the bone, etc. But 0.5" constant there after proving yourself is not just a deviation but half inch of extra meat, I would throw the party of the century LOL.
 
I'm getting the P Shot a week from today. The ED issues I've been having appeared a few months ago out of the blue. I'm just starting PE at age 44 (kicking myself for not knowing about this earlier grrr) and I know EQ is important, so I'm getting the shot. It doesn't work for a lot of people but I'll gamble. I don't know what the cause is, but it may be nicotine abuse. I haven't smoked for 8 years but now I vape (a lot) and sometimes use snus. This week I'm going to try and vape less and less and see if I can stop. My doctor says it should take 6 weeks to figure out if that's what's causing the ED.

I've got Citrulline (apparently better than L-argenine) and Pycogenol in my amazon cart - apparently together they help ED. Also I thew in some Red Panax Ginseng and Propionyl L - Cartinine HCL. In the worst case these supplements might give me a placebo effect for the psychological aspect of ED. Maybe I should post this in another forum for feedback.

I'm praying that this P-shot works for me. Even a .25" gain in girth would be a miracle and will definitely motivate me to keep going with PE. I'm at 4.5 right now, and I know that if I could get to 5" I could relax, being straight up average at that point. Then I could PE with pleasure instead of fear to get to 5.5+.
 
Noticed this site is pretty chill on Priapus Shot aka P-Shot. After doing lots of research and at least 3 consultations with MD's in my area (SF Bay), I decided to take the jump into the world of science and medicine to pursue a bigger "johnson". I also combined Gainswave treatment with P-Shot for greater results. I can say I'm very pleased with the results. After 5 months I've registered gains close to 2 inches flaccid in L and G (see attached pics). Erect I was 6.5" in length before, after treatment I now sport just under 7.75" erect length and a girthy 7". My wife who was very supportive of my obsession is now a little afraid of the girth (backdoor action is now off the menu for sure!) Cost totaled about $3800 which includes the $1300 for the P-Shot and 5 Gainswave treatments at $500 each.
I had done the P.shot my self. I'm not a doctor bt a science student who knows how to extract blood centrifuge and extract the PRP..numbed the penis for first time injected on glans and into shaft on both the sides ..
I had done only one shot may be a year ago.
I shld accept the sensitivity on glans was good with erection quality with girth increased ( can't assure it was only with P shot bt due to my regular exercises might helped too ).
Unfortunately I haven't taken any pics .

Going to combine a chemical PE along with AAS (as I'm regular gym guy)
And all the possible exercises and procedures to see increase of mmy penus ...
 
No it doesnt. In my honest opinion P-shot, shockwave, stem cell, Crispr, are all EXCELLENT aides to PE. By themselves alone, will provide some gains but mostly girth, flaccid length and EQ.

BUT, if all this combined was performed WITH a proper PE schedule, then they gains would skyrocket.

Its like Bodybuilding and Anabolic steroids. You cant do bodybuilding without Anabolic steroids. You will get some gains over a period of 10-20 years, but you will NEVER look competitive on the stage. On the other hand some people claim that anabolic steroids is cheating, which is not the case because the athlete on steroids train 3 times harder and has 3 times de discipline. The steroid is just the push to the next level that naturally is impossible to achieve.

I see the same approach in PE. I believe these procedures are the needed aid, currently in our primitive technology, to surpass the natural limit to the next level.

As I have also said before, If I had the money I would buy the equipment for P-shot and shockwave and do it myself at home. It is easy to do, I would get unlimited sessions of both plus eventually stem cell therapy as it goes developing in a more efficient manner.
Well said brother ...
U can purchase the cheapest quality centrifuge from Amazon or any depends on country and place that u live in.cntrifuge is a centrifuge no matter what bt the RPM shld be 1500 or 2000 or more is better...
U can extract ur blood , spin it u get PRP..
Regarding shock wave (isn't it possible to look for an electric shock kind of equipment that runs on battery ..) the one like JOHNSONJOLTS from allknight.com ..

The above doesn't cost u much brother ..so u can give a try ..?


Stem cells I too want to get this procedure done for good and quick results.
It costs 2 lakhs i.e $3000 here in India..
The procedure includes extracting fat from abdomen separating stem cells (may be along with PRP) and and peptides like igf1lr3 and a hgh combo .. subject to correction..

I just gave info from my knowledge brothers correct me if I'm wrong bt dnt take me for granted ..
 
Well said brother ...
U can purchase the cheapest quality centrifuge from Amazon or any depends on country and place that u live in.cntrifuge is a centrifuge no matter what bt the RPM shld be 1500 or 2000 or more is better...
U can extract ur blood , spin it u get PRP..
Regarding shock wave (isn't it possible to look for an electric shock kind of equipment that runs on battery ..) the one like JOHNSONJOLTS from allknight.com ..

The above doesn't cost u much brother ..so u can give a try ..?


Stem cells I too want to get this procedure done for good and quick results.
It costs 2 lakhs i.e $3000 here in India..
The procedure includes extracting fat from abdomen separating stem cells (may be along with PRP) and and peptides like igf1lr3 and a hgh combo .. subject to correction..

I just gave info from my knowledge brothers correct me if I'm wrong bt dnt take me for granted ..

Stem cell? Why do expensive and what does it do?
 
Stem cell? Why do expensive and what does it do?
Brother did u asked this question serious or just beating the Bush...
Cause u are the veteran in this PE and ur asking me abt stemcells..
 
Brother did u asked this question serious or just beating the Bush...
Cause u are the veteran in this PE and ur asking me abt stemcells..

I have absolutely no clue about stem cells and PE. I am a veteran of 18 years and I have not heard of this. Unless, of course, I forgotten or have become senile. ?
 
I have absolutely no clue about stem cells and PE. I am a veteran of 18 years and I have not heard of this. Unless, of course, I forgotten or have become senile. ?
Okk bro..
I can write pages about stem cells .. But simply cut short ..
Stem cells will transform and develop and differentiate into new and different cells...

We do our PE routine strain it gets fatigue stretch ,hang all these done along with stem cells (that too our own and original stem cells ) . Will provide great results...
It's not that without stem cells the penis doesn't grow it does bt the path is clear ,solid and clear for the growth to happen ..


Combining PE with different methods along with AAS (steroids) and peptides .. IMO the process is lost more hassle free and takes less time than usual with out the fatigue injuries other related problems ..



I'm planning to stack ..

AAS (steroids) + peptides ( igf1 LR3 , mgf , tb500, bpc157) + HGH ( for hyperplacia) and MK677 + PRP (P. Shot done by my self )
As a single combo...

Most important and must and should is doing PE ROUTINE DAILY ..
If not no matter what ever ve do everything goes useless ..
End result is disappointment ..

Correct me brothers ..

Cant afford for stemcell therapy ..
 
I have absolutely no clue about stem cells and PE. I am a veteran of 18 years and I have not heard of this. Unless, of course, I forgotten or have become senile. ?

There are already some clinics offering stem cell therapy for Penile Health. Notice, it is advertised as penile health, NOT penile growth, simply because is not a proven technology or perhaps not advanced enough yet. Is not that simple.

I insist, the end result is genetic engineering that I am positive it has been done and experimented already but strictly confidential. With genetic engineering you can alter pretty much ANYTHING in the body physically. CRISPR is the beginning of something with a lot of potential but its on early stages.
 
Yes bro crispr is gene editing .. that's the process done by bio technologists (which I studied) to edit the Gene. And keeping the desired gene ..
Insert iit into the body to get it replicated to produce more from a single or simple thing ( here it relates to soft tissues or something else which gives the desired results quick like increasing the penis combined with the PE .) ..

Bt it vil be very costly initially until it gets known nd copied by other doctors ..
Just like P.shot very costly initially bt now can be done for Less price in many parts of the world ..
 
I had done the P.shot my self. I'm not a doctor bt a science student who knows how to extract blood centrifuge and extract the PRP..numbed the penis for first time injected on glans and into shaft on both the sides ..
I had done only one shot may be a year ago.
I shld accept the sensitivity on glans was good with erection quality with girth increased ( can't assure it was only with P shot bt due to my regular exercises might helped too ).
Unfortunately I haven't taken any pics .

Going to combine a chemical PE along with AAS (as I'm regular gym guy)
And all the possible exercises and procedures to see increase of mmy penus ...
I'm definitely interested in your chem PE journey. As for Crispr and stem cell tech, I wonder how soon these will become available, since I am not getting any younger and only discovered PE 2 months ago. I am already mid-40s :(

I asked the urologist who gave me the shot last week if he thought that P-Shot was going to improve in the future and he said yes.

I don't think I could administer the shot myself but am thinking if it's possible to hire a nurse to take my blood and then do the shots. Give her 200 bucks or something for it. There is a protocol where they inject you in specific places. Do you know where to inject yourself? My doc also used a technique where he stabbed me with the needle, with force! I would not know how to instruct the nurse or whoever to do that.

I got about a .2" girth increase so far. It's supposed to go away and then return in a few weeks. If this works for me I'm going to get a second and third shot, F-it why not.

Do you think I should be doing PE right now? The doctor gave me a pump and instead of doing two sets of ten minutes like the protocol, he told me to do 5 sets of one minute pumped followed by 30 seconds rest. I do these 5 sets twice a day. He told me that as a urologist, the protocol other doctors are using makes no sense to him. I would think that putting stress in the penis would encourage the growth factors in the PRP to work to make a bigger penis. So far, I haven't read any reports of people combining the P Shot with standard PE exercises apart from the pump.
 
Yes brother u can combine the PE of any kind along with stretching , pumping and hanging (caution bt wait fr 3 days after p shot for doing PE ) and do ur workouts regularly ...
Just PE alone will not give the gains if we doesn't stran the pennis ,muscles and tissues..

Regarding pumping it's not a big mater for 10 min 5 min or so..
All fingers are not the same so decide by urself regarding the time and stamina of holding ....
Yes bro u can hire a nurse and do that urself .u can save a lot of money .o dnt kno howmuch they charge for p.shots .
Do it with insulin syringe..
Regarding the places ..
Twist ur pennis a little find just only meat find a place or mark a dot on it .check there were no big veins running through ..
There u can inject it .. same as the other side..
If u want ur glans to be more sensitive u can inject on the edges as well for enhanced sensitivity ( like the women does it for clitoris called O.shot )
Its ur preference broth..

Hope I hav given the ans bro ..
I'm no expert bt gained a lil knowledge thats it ...
Bt definitely I vil never mis guide any one with half knowledge...
Correct me if m wrong in any words ..
 
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