havent measured in a while 6.5 6.25 depending on eq and almost 7 when i measure bone pressed but i dont want to measure until i feel a remarkable gain
 
Natural PE is harder but can be permenent IF DONE PROPERLY IMHO,dont really know about that procedure,Most men want gains in no time pe is a mind process too..
 
Holy moly! So expensive my goodness! If you do the same thing with your hands and won’t cost you anything but I guess if you have the money you can take some shortcuts. The size increases undeniable so I’m very curious to what this therapy is and how long it took to affect you.

12 sessions 3300 ...and no side effects nothing to worry about lol thats what i call the new ere of PE tech
 
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12 sessions 3300 ...and no side effects nothing to worry about LOL thats what i call the new ere of PE tech

we have to start paying attention to this
 
yeah but is like killing the essence of PE maybe im wrong but all you have to do is go through that procedure and get bigger whoever has the money can do it and voila..
 
yeah but is like killing the essence of PE maybe im wrong but all you have to do is go through that procedure and get bigger whoever has the money can do it and voila..

All we can do is test, review and see if it works. And if it does show promise and it works we should think of a way to incorporate it or bring some sort of discount in the way of affiliation or through our own means.
 
yeah but is like killing the essence of PE maybe im wrong but all you have to do is go through that procedure and get bigger whoever has the money can do it and voila..

No it doesnt. In my honest opinion P-shot, shockwave, stem cell, Crispr, are all EXCELLENT aides to PE. By themselves alone, will provide some gains but mostly girth, flaccid length and EQ.

BUT, if all this combined was performed WITH a proper PE schedule, then they gains would skyrocket.

Its like Bodybuilding and Anabolic steroids. You cant do bodybuilding without Anabolic steroids. You will get some gains over a period of 10-20 years, but you will NEVER look competitive on the stage. On the other hand some people claim that anabolic steroids is cheating, which is not the case because the athlete on steroids train 3 times harder and has 3 times de discipline. The steroid is just the push to the next level that naturally is impossible to achieve.

I see the same approach in PE. I believe these procedures are the needed aid, currently in our primitive technology, to surpass the natural limit to the next level.

As I have also said before, If I had the money I would buy the equipment for P-shot and shockwave and do it myself at home. It is easy to do, I would get unlimited sessions of both plus eventually stem cell therapy as it goes developing in a more efficient manner.
 
Yep actually once a man see how big he gets Whit those treatments adding a routine gotta change everything, besides stem cells how do they work in PE excuse my ignorance
 
Yep actually once a man see how big he gets Whit those treatments adding a routine gotta change everything, besides stem cells how do they work in PE excuse my ignorance

The P-shot and shockwave work under a similar principle. The P-shot, is your own blood platelets activated injected back. What happens is that lets imagine that God forbid you get a big cut in your arm. In that same area where the cut was done, a biochemical process activates all the repair hormones and enzymes to fix as much as possible of the damage. Self repair, cicatrize. The way the P-shot works, blood is extracted from your body, centrifuged, platelets isolated. Then you grab those platelets, add a chemical that dont remember specifically right now, but that chemical "turns on" all these repair enzymes and hormones in the platelets. At that point you inject them in your cock and all these platelets start the repairing process. Since there is no damage, that repair is translated into new blood vessels, stringer tissues, etc.

The shockwave on the other hand creates microscopic tissue damage inside that activates all this same repair process, but the shockwave can go deep in the tissue. This same pair process rebuilds veins improving EQ and also the same shockwave loosen collagen fibers that could potentially be stretched.
 
P shot sounds like an almost miraculous way to get bigger, amazing treatments no doubt...
 
How's your measurements now, brother?

I am now 2 weeks after my shot.

If you go on the official p-shot website, they say the following: 10 to 20% immediate growth due to injecting the PRP liquid which slowly dissipate in the first 3 days and new tissue should slowly grow and return to the day one increased size in 12 weeks.

This is in sync with my own experience. I did notice that I was bigger in the first few days. This effect is kinda gone.

Flaccid length has increased but it change a lot from day to day but I guess this is true for every guy. I feel like I got an extra half inch to an extra inch in flaccid length but no erect length increased yet.

I do pump a lot more than the prescribed 10 minutes twice daily. I did several 1 hour long session in the evening. The reason why I am doing that is that with the cost of the treatment, I want to make sure to put enough effort so that I get an interesting ROI. Right after those long pumping session, I did gain 1/4 inch. It is not some stupid fluid buildup gain. I clamp my base to avoid fluid build up. This is pure 1/4 hard stuff girth gain.And this is the biggest that I have ever been and this is exciting! Of course, this is only temporary but possibly if I keep doing that some will be permanent eventually.

So, if you refer back the first page pictures where the guy said that he gained 1.5 inch in 5 months. He did 1 p-shot + 5 shockwave sessions. Idk, maybe you need both to get these type of results because I'm not feeling like I'll be 1.5 inches longer in 5 months as-is.

As an interesting sidenote, he says that he paid $500 per session x5 it is $2,500. I started looking around and you can get a good shockwave therapy device for about $1200..... it might be worth buying one instead of paying per session....

I'm really not a good research candidate as I only care about results. I'm saying this because as I got my p-shot, I started several things:

LM SRT routine in the morning
Sleeping with a sillisleeve
Long pumping session
NIR + red therapy

The only thing that I'm not doing now is vacuum hanging. This is what is causing me issue with my frenulum and it is not yet 100%

The point is: what contribution to my perceived gain can be credited to p-shot vs everything else that I do? I have no idea and I don't really care. To the point where I am all I want is result
 
yeah but is like killing the essence of PE maybe im wrong but all you have to do is go through that procedure and get bigger whoever has the money can do it and voila..

Well, I bought my first extender in 2002. After few months, I have given up due to lack of result and the damn thing was painful due to the attachment.

I must have bough another extender few years later with a better design making the attachment more comfortable. Same result. no gain. I'm a freaking hard gainer.

I must have bought endless string of devices and spent a lot of hours doing exercises and never got results. but the devices/methods keep improving therefore, I still have hope that eventually, I'll stumble into something that work for me. So, if I check the cost of all these devices that has given no results and the amount of time that I have spent (probably 1000s of hours), p-shot and shockwave make sense.

Bottomline, I extract ZERO pride in gaining the hard way. I have zero shame to take shortcuts if they are safe. It just makes sense financially if it gets me the result that I want.

P-shot and/or shockwave, even with their high price tags, if they deliver, it will cheaper than all the devices that I may have bought over the years and will free me up to invest all that time to other things.
 
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As I have also said before, If I had the money I would buy the equipment for P-shot and shockwave and do it myself at home. It is easy to do, I would get unlimited sessions of both plus eventually stem cell therapy as it goes developing in a more efficient manner.

Start to save money... Shockwave devices start to be affordable. I have seen one that you can get a good one for $1,200...
 
@lano1106 Yeah I have been researching Shockwave devices already since there are a group of guys already experimenting with it specifically to enlarge the septum. Not really shockwave, but more specifically ultrasound. Certain frequency and power will penetrate a specific determined depth and heat up the tissues. The procedure is already proven and being used in horses for recovery therapy in their legs (not growing horse dicks) After a horse has inured his leg tendons, ultrasound therapy is being applied to heat up the collagen tissue, then stretching. this has been proven to enlarge the size and strength of the tendon.

By the way, I agree with you about "shortcuts" this is not really shortcuts, its science. The way we have been doing PE for decades, is equivalent to dragging a pallet on the floor with straps by yourself for 2 miles. It will take you forever and you will drive destroyed. Well, today we have pallet jacks. No need to drag the fucking pallet with animal force.

Same with PE. As I have mentioned several times before, I oppose all those procedures that involve cutting ligaments, fat implants for girth, pump devices implanted, etc.... those are barbaric procedures invented by allopathic medicine for profit only but they do not work properly.

I do fully support all procedures that allow our own bodies to create real tissue and growth. The only limitation is money. But If I had the money, I say it again, I would be shocking my cock right now with ultrasound after a P-shot at home, and finding the best clinic for stem cell therapy while performing a PE routine on top of that consisting of stretches, pumping, ADS, plus chemicals that I have proven to work such as PGE-1.
 
Devices look promising no doubt I have BM length master and a PF and they all helped me out unfortunately I lacked consistency.MOS devices are great but as jacxxx mentioned before having the procedures and mixing it Whit a routines gains sky rocket..
 
This is my third attempt at PE, and I think I'm a hard gainer, too. It's early in my third run, mind you - but I'm already seeing newbie length gains from stretching. Jelqing, SSJ and Bathmate have yielded no girth gains thus far - but I'm well aware that it's early days, and that girth typically takes longer.

I will persevere with the exercises, but I'm drawn to the P-shot for two reasons:

1. Fast improvement without time investment - some may say this is laziness on my part, and I hear ya loud and clear. It's a fair comment. However, PE is a very time consuming (but worthwhile) endeavour and time is more valuable to me than money, so yeah, if there are SAFE short-cuts to growth, I wanna take them.

2. I'm 42 years old. The boost in EQ from the P-shot is well worth the financial investment.
 
This is my third attempt at PE, and I think I'm a hard gainer, too. It's early in my third run, mind you - but I'm already seeing newbie length gains from stretching. Jelqing, SSJ and Bathmate have yielded no girth gains thus far - but I'm well aware that it's early days, and that girth typically takes longer.

I will persevere with the exercises, but I'm drawn to the P-shot for two reasons:

1. Fast improvement without time investment - some may say this is laziness on my part, and I hear ya loud and clear. It's a fair comment. However, PE is a very time consuming (but worthwhile) endeavour and time is more valuable to me than money, so yeah, if there are SAFE short-cuts to growth, I wanna take them.

2. I'm 42 years old. The boost in EQ from the P-shot is well worth the financial investment.

Im 43 brother, you are EXTREMELY YOUNG. You shouldn't have any EQ issues at your age. It all comes down to essential nutrients and getting rid of the daily poison.
 
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