The pictures are up for 1 day. On the next day they are gone. But I did everything in quick reply - now I did it via advanced. Thanks for the manual.

Swiss San replied and they say that nobody needs the sieve. I doubt this but I used one of the other sieves and glued in into the XL bell.

The XL bell is intersting because now I can keep the glans in the bell floating in a vacuum. I don't really know how the penis is able to stay in there but it works well.
 

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I damn want one of these. Yeah if the growth curve plateaus you increase the intensity via other methods like hanging or intense stretches by hand while having a little rest from the phallosan I would say. But that is the users choice and I have never used one. I did have a Size genetics but my ex went through my stuff several years back and threw it out ... seriously! wasn't impressed
 
Actually the Phallosan will always suppress the penis to move into its smaller expansion. That alone should be the key to success for the Phallosan if you Superset it with other stuff like you said. To count on the tension of the Phallosan itself for growth won't be necessary anymore then. With time, you have a good understanding how the Phallosan works and I am starting to think about making my own design of such a device. With another design you could implement stronger springs. The thing is that I rarely use the Phallosan at full force because it becomes uncomfortable for me.

Overall I used the Phallosan for about 10 hours per day in a course of 6 months. So here are a few more experiences:

1. I am still using the first condom size L. Actually I put it aside three days ago because I had some trouble with suction. I am not sure whether it is torn though. Personally I am impressed by the lifetime of the condom. With time I stretched it more and more due to pumping supersets and so on so it would not be a surprise if it breaks. Right now I am using the LG hanger sleeve and suction was perfect right after switching. Still, I am not sure whether the Phallosan condom is broken. I have to investigate this first. There are days where you can't get proper suction with the Phallosan. Another day it is gone again.

2. At the beginning I felt discomfort from the ring on the belt due to skin irritation. Later this didn't happen anymore. The biggest problem nowadays is skin that is pressed between the flange of the bell and the condom. This happens more often, the thicker the penis becomes. When I wear this in public, I have to go to the bathroom because it irritates the skin quite a lot. A solution to this is wrapping with sports tape with long straps to cover not only the glans but also the section where the shaft exits the bell- this wide sports tape is sometimes painful to take off again. Therefore I experiment with baby powder and put it on before I put on the sports tape. Sometimes it helps.

3. I started to wear it during cycling and it works now since I already lost some body fat and it works fine as long as you don't wear baggy pants since baggy pants have the waistband where the Phallosan bell sits. That is not so comfortable. Actually a problem many people with jeans might have. After some time I noticed that the Phallosan is causing a dark-red spot on the skin because the bell-spring system rubs on it due to all the pedaling.

4. Psychological factor of the Phallosan is immense because it means that you can exercise all the time.

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REDZULU2003;742560 said:
I damn want one of these. Yeah if the growth curve plateaus you increase the intensity via other methods like hanging or intense stretches by hand while having a little rest from the phallosan I would say. But that is the users choice and I have never used one. I did have a Size genetics but my ex went through my stuff several years back and threw it out ... seriously! wasn't impressed

Check with LIGHTNING Red, He may be able to help.
 
Chaoskampf;742593 said:
Actually the Phallosan will always suppress the penis to move into its smaller expansion. That alone should be the key to success for the Phallosan if you Superset it with other stuff like you said. To count on the tension of the Phallosan itself for growth won't be necessary anymore then. With time, you have a good understanding how the Phallosan works and I am starting to think about making my own design of such a device. With another design you could implement stronger springs. The thing is that I rarely use the Phallosan at full force because it becomes uncomfortable for me.

Overall I used the Phallosan for about 10 hours per day in a course of 6 months. So here are a few more experiences:

1. I am still using the first condom size L. Actually I put it aside three days ago because I had some trouble with suction. I am not sure whether it is torn though. Personally I am impressed by the lifetime of the condom. With time I stretched it more and more due to pumping supersets and so on so it would not be a surprise if it breaks. Right now I am using the LG hanger sleeve and suction was perfect right after switching. Still, I am not sure whether the Phallosan condom is broken. I have to investigate this first. There are days where you can't get proper suction with the Phallosan. Another day it is gone again.

2. At the beginning I felt discomfort from the ring on the belt due to skin irritation. Later this didn't happen anymore. The biggest problem nowadays is skin that is pressed between the flange of the bell and the condom. This happens more often, the thicker the penis becomes. When I wear this in public, I have to go to the bathroom because it irritates the skin quite a lot. A solution to this is wrapping with sports tape with long straps to cover not only the glans but also the section where the shaft exits the bell- this wide sports tape is sometimes painful to take off again. Therefore I experiment with baby powder and put it on before I put on the sports tape. Sometimes it helps.

3. I started to wear it during cycling and it works now since I already lost some body fat and it works fine as long as you don't wear baggy pants since baggy pants have the waistband where the Phallosan bell sits. That is not so comfortable. Actually a problem many people with jeans might have. After some time I noticed that the Phallosan is causing a dark-red spot on the skin because the bell-spring system rubs on it due to all the pedaling.

4. Psychological factor of the Phallosan is immense because it means that you can exercise all the time.

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Thanks for that extensive review, it will help other Brothers who are undecided. There really is nothing that compares to the Phallosan and that is why we took them in as a partner.
 
I asked this in a different PF thread, but I'm curious if anyone has attempted hanging w/The PF?
 
I didn't try. What do you have in mind?

1. Hanging from the spring system would cause serious stress on the fork. It is very likely to break except if you limit the weight to the maximum Phallosan tension which is about 3kg = 6.6 lbs.
2. Using just the bell with your own attachments should work. They claim that the bell is unbreakable. Unfortunately a user here mentions that he broke his - but he never told the story about the accident.

I am hanging with the LG Hanger which is basically the same system. The only difference is the wall thickness and material, pump performance and hook capabilities. Obviously I will claim that this kind of hanging is superior to all hangers that use clamping mechanisms but this forum thinks otherwise anyway so I won't even try. If you look on the thread for what is the best hanger, a vacuum hanger isn't even mentioned. I believe this is because people here don't like to spend money or because one of our users is selling his own device.
 
Chaoskampf;742994 said:
2. Using just the bell with your own attachments should work. They claim that the bell is unbreakable. Unfortunately a user here mentions that he broke his - but he never told the story about the accident.

I am hanging with the LG Hanger which is basically the same system. The only difference is the wall thickness and material, pump performance and hook capabilities. Obviously I will claim that this kind of hanging is superior to all hangers that use clamping mechanisms but this forum thinks otherwise anyway so I won't even try. If you look on the thread for what is the best hanger, a vacuum hanger isn't even mentioned.

My default PE position is comfort, convenience and enjoyment...if I can incorporate all 3, then I'm most likely to be consistent. The vacuum attachment system is attractive due to the fact that I don't really like having to squish my dick so much to prevent slippage as I increase the weight. If the vacuum could remain attached with 15, 20, 25+ pounds, I'm in!

Any advice which would work best for this application type?
 
25 pounds isn't even that much, I will probably go much higher than that. 70 pounds should be possible. Phallosan is strong too but you don't want to risk such an expensive device. Squishing will be necessary most of the time. The vacuum isn't really causing the attachmnent - actually it is the friction of the wrapped glans on the wall. Wrapping has to be figured out with all of these devices so even the high end stuff is not free of trouble. I estimate the Phallosan vacuum to be 5 inHg maximum. I don't think it is much higher. Something that should be considered if someone tries to hang.
 
Chaoskampf;743105 said:
25 pounds isn't even that much, I will probably go much higher than that. 70 pounds should be possible. Phallosan is strong too but you don't want to risk such an expensive device. Squishing will be necessary most of the time. The vacuum isn't really causing the attachmnent - actually it is the friction of the wrapped glans on the wall. Wrapping has to be figured out with all of these devices so even the high end stuff is not free of trouble. I estimate the Phallosan vacuum to be 5 inHg maximum. I don't think it is much higher. Something that should be considered if someone tries to hang.

good info, thank you. how does you LG stay 'connected' w/25#+?
 
Big Schwanz Acht;743106 said:
good info, thank you. how does you LG stay 'connected' w/25#+?

I haven't tested this yet. My maximum attached mass was 9kg = 22.8 pounds. It is just my guess that you could go much higher. It is tested until 25 pounds by the manufacturer though.

How does it stay attached? I don't know what to say but you can easily wear it with 20 inHg vacuum. That is a lot of power I think. Slippage doesn't occur. I can't tell you why - we would have to figure out how to measure the friction or something.
 
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