Mosterson said:
You're just asking for more aren't you? , lol .
I chose not to make an elaborate response before, but it appears that I should "break it down" for you, now that I have some more time. What a wonderful that self control is.
Be prepared for actually reading. Realize that volume of a post explains nothing more than that in simplicity. If you want to be ignorant and apathetic in regards to this post by not reading it entirely and trying to comprehend it, then do not rationally justify any sort of response to it or assume anything from it.
Mosterson said:
Oh god what did I get myself into :banghead:
A discussion, in a discussion forum, of which you seem to be using as a means to vent aggression towards people who you disagree with or don't comprehend. Don't hurt yourself while you get all pissed off over something so trivial. I'm surprised that you have resorted to praying to your God.
(Don't get your panties in a bunch about that one either, b/c it's a joke).
Like I said before:
Alternate said:
I'm not trying to make "enemies". I think we should all get along. But your statement is false and the attitude in my post is simply in response to that of yours. If you're gonna dish it out, don't get your panties in a bunch when it comes back to ya.
I guess you were ignorant and or inept in regards to that statement, because you obviously got your panties in a bunch over what is simply supposed to be discussion of knowledge. I suppose, in using another one of the hypocritical comments you made, lacking common sense would be an accurate description too.
In a civil and productive discussion, you need to be receptive to other people to get the most out of it. You need to be open to the idea that you may be incorrect and try to avoid being stubborn and narrow minded.
"I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing." - Socrates
"The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who
cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn,
and relearn." -- Alvin Toffler
It is important to be careful that we are not being bigots:
bigot
n : a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own
"Real bigots can be distinguished from mere partisans or
zealots by the fact that they refuse to learn alternatives even when
the march of time and/or technology is threatening to obsolete the
favored tool. It is truly said "You can tell a bigot, but you can't
tell him much."
I don't think either of us are being bigots. I think we are both right in some ways, but simply have a misunderstanding in some other ways which may be leading us to be wrong. I think it is obvious that there is some ignorance, likely due to being overzealous about showing the other why one is right and the other is wrong. Aside for being overzealous, I suppose it would be irrational and inconsiderate to assume that being tired does not have anything to do with it either. As you said:
Mosterson said:
Anyways Im getting tired...
...so, I'll give you benefit of the doubt. I suppose some of the volume of my posts do not make it easier to calm down and read them, but you should if you are wanting to respond rationally and accurately.
Mosterson said:
People like you are so exhausting!!
Excuse me for being rational, articulate, analytical and fair. If you disagree of those descriptions, I'd have to say that you aren't understanding me; yet you still label me.
Don't be so quick to label what you can't comprehend.
Mosterson said:
I must have missed the part where you proved me wrong, or are you referring to the most inaccurate retarded display of a metaphor I've ever read? Are you assuming that Matts is a infant (seed) typing away in Somalia right now eating sand and dirt in dier need of a food pyramid poster?
This is getting redundant, but, it's really simple. You said:
Mosterson said:
Heightmax.com smells like bullshit to me.
I said:
Alternate said:
Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't.(Bullshit)
You were being conclusive with no supporting factual information. Granted, at that point, you were also saying "to me", insinuating that you were open to other people's opinions. I was acknowledging that you and I really do not know if it works or not.
You said:
Mosterson said:
Theres no way vitamins,minerals,and amino acids can make you grow taller.
I said:
Alternate said:
THAT'S bullshit, to an extent. ....*example why stated here* .... Vitamins, minerals, nutrients, amino acids etc ... aid growth. To what extent they can for certain people and certain circumstances is different.
Your statement was plain and simple, cut and dry, black and white. It is incorrect in isolation, plain and simple, ct and dry, black and white. I DID use common sense to acknowledge that in some circumstances you would be correct. You did not articulate/elaborate yourself to describe which circumstances you would be correct about. I did not either. Neither of us really know, but I am (obviously IMO) stating that there is likely a point in somebody's genetic body makeup and or growth cycle where such things will not help them grow anymore. I am not knowledgeable enough to really define that point and you don't seem to be either.
www.heightmax.com vaguely implies that they think this point would be somewhere into a homosapien's mid 20s.
If you were really exuding this common sense, rationale, intelligence, attention etc that you purport to ... then I would think that this would all be obvious to you and you wouldn't let your zeal and ignorance give more reason to "justify" your aggressive (panties in a bunch) responses as they have been.
Mosterson said:
Im guessing and daring to assume that he consumes plenty of the "vitamins, minerals, nurtrients, and amino acids" in his daily grind to make him a big strapping plant. And you should have made that assumption too before you concocted that joke of a metaphor and started this whole thing.
Like I said, I did already whether you comprehended it or not. Maybe he doesn't consume specific vitamins, minerals, nutrients and amino acids ... or specific volumes of them .... that would help him to grow and maybe he still has potential for more growth. You act like you know everything. Maybe you just assume too much. Like many of know,
when you assume too much, you make an ass out of you and me
... as you have stared to do here.
Alternate said:
I simply objected to your false comment and substantiated the facts that you comment is false with a description and experiment. I didn't really advocate any of these methods. I have mostly contributed to the thread in a neutral and objective manner, having a DISCUSSION in a DISCUSSION FORUM, ON TOPIC and providing as much info as possible and DISCUSSING the pros, cons and possible and unequivocal truths and false. Your statement happened to be false.
As I typed yet you still seem to not comprehend:**blah blah repeated above* .
You said*blah blah repeated above*, That is false. How difficult is that to follow/comprehend?
Mosterson said:
First off let me say that if anybody was that condescending to me in person I would bitchslap 'em with a quickness. And Im a pretty big plant alternate Ill break your branches off and beat you with them.
You're being such a hypocrite. You enter a conversation, in which you are condescending, aggressive and conclusive from pure assumptions with poor articulation/explanation/elaboration. Then, somebody actually decides to point that out to you unequivocally and your zeal, ignorance, lack of rationale, fatigue etc helps you to burst out into "seizures of a rant" in which you become more condescending/irrational/aggressive and start talking to "God", labeling what you can't comprehend, making hypocritical comments, and posting emoticons showing that you want to bang your head into a wall .... and because you still can't keep up with rational intellect/are having simple misunderstanding due to ignorance/zeal/fatigue , you talk about getting into a physical fight ... with an anonymous person ... over the internet . I'm glad that you used to little "
" emoticon to show some humor/that you may be joking. I hope you are. Because I pity you, immensely if you aren't. The said thing is, you may have been serious and only be winking about using the metaphor of "breaking my branches" while stating how "big" you are. Dude ... I don't give a shit. This is the internet. I'm not here to fight you. I was simply chatting in a conversation. You get your panties in a bunch and get all "huff and puff macho".
I'll quote it again:
Alternate said:
I'm not trying to make "enemies". I think we should all get along. But your statement is false and the attitude in my post is simply in response to that of yours. If you're gonna dish it out, don't get your panties in a bunch when it comes back to ya.
Mosterson said:
I should have known being that you were already lurking on this thread that I should have said "there is no way a supplement of vitamins, minerals, and amino acids can make you taller."
That
IS what you said:
Mosterson said:
Theres no way vitamins,minerals,and amino acids can make you grow taller.
...supplement or not ... same thing.
You're making it easier for me to understand why you aren't understanding some of what I type, because you can't even recall and or understand what you type. You seem to have been to fatigued/apathetic to look at what you typed in order to see if you were repeating yourself. I guess you were ignorant of yourself. If you're ignorant of yourself, I can understand more of why you'd be ignorant of somebody else. lol
(Just a bit of fun in truth, don't take things so seriously and get all pissed off again.)
Mosterson said:
But being the jackass that you are you took it literal and went on ANOTHER another ridiculous quoting rampage.
There's that hypocritical name calling-labelling crap from you again. I already discussed your statement and explained my rationale behind it which you should have already known if you truly have the common sense and comprehension that you purport ... or that you claim to be utilizing by hypocritically concluding that I am absent of such abilities and or use of them.
Here's another break down for you: I quote things out of respect for reader's comprehension. As we have already proved here, it has been difficult for you to keep up with things that you have typed. So, I figure I need all the help I can get, using quotations that are implemented into forum interface for these exact reasons, to help you to understand and not ignore the validity and rationale of my posts.
Mosterson said:
There you go ranting to "God" again. I wonder who your God is. I wonder what type of God would approve of you. I hope you'r God is the type that forgives you, because it looks like you could use some forgiveness. Figure of speech or not, you're point is still that you "can't stand" me. Ok....
If you don't like/can't take the heat, get out of the oven/fire."
The fact is, you keep falsely and hypocritically labeling me due to your ignorance, zeal, aggression and lack of desire or effort to actually understand me. When I point that out, I can imagine how you may be upset. If you're a really humble and rational guy, you would get upset. You'd appreciate that somebody is actually trying to communicate with you and have productive mutually beneficial conversation and you'd take ownership of some of your faults and put your defensive aggression aside.
Mosterson said:
And to think your thread on HGH and this one were enough for me to think you're a no common sense having quote button abusing reject! Heres the links for you people crazy enough to dip into the depths of alternates fascinating pysche 1
2
God did they mop the floor with you in there! I guess thats why you just mysteriously stopped posting.
lol ... Are you intimidated/baffled by rational, articulate, analytical and fair Q&A and objective discussion? ... Or can you just not understand it at all? Maybe you don't care to actually take the time to read it (ignorance,apathy/fatigue etc), yet still think that you can pass judgment on it(lack of common sense)? Whatever. Point is ... those links contain mostly rational, analytical, articulate, intellectual discussion for mutual benefit while attempting to have everyone understand each other. There were some questions asked to actually challenge people to back up empty statements and in doing so we were both able to correct, clarify and understand each other. That is exactly the type of production that came from it.
"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing." - Albert Einstein
Nobody mopped the floor with me at all. There is no mysterious stopping of response from me. I see nothing left to respond to at this time. I have a life too. If you didn't notice, in my last post of this thread, I chose to keep things short and prioritize my time. I also had no desire to post. Today, I checked up on the thread and decided to respond. It's my choice. There's no mystery. Don't "strain your brain" over it.
lol
Mosterson said:
I said and I quote like we all loooooove to do
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mosterson
If you suggest taking "vitamins, minerals, nurtrients, and amino acids" to get taller then tell the man to go to GNC, jeez, dont waste your time talking about growing plants and advocating for some BULLSHIT website.
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and you said
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alternate
In regards to any products and where to shop for them: how can you shop for something at GNC that isn't sold at GNC? Here's a hint: You can't.
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Oh God WTF are you talking about? Do you know what GNC is? Its an acronym for general nutrtion center smartguy!!!!
Why the hell do you think I didn't ask what GNC is, "wannabe smart ass"? I know what it is. You either misunderstood me, or you just like being an asshole. I did elaborate for further explanation in this regard, to which you quoted:
Mosterson said:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alternate
I don't know all of the ingredients in some of these supplements, nor do you.
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If you would actually read growmax or whatever it is you would know that they STATE the the supplement consists of vitamins, minerals, and amino acids genius.
Okay, "wannabe smart ass", "hypocritical 'sarcastic genius' labeling/name calling", "hypocritical 'sarcastic smart guy' labeling/name calling" man ....
I'm glad that you took the time to not be ignorant and to state the common sense obvious that we both already knew that the
www.heightmax.com site states "vitamins, minerals and amino acids". Is it common sense for you to imply that I didn't realize this even though I had been discussing it already(hello no, it's lack of common sense on your part), or were you choosing to ignore common sense (when we are talking about you) in favor of mindless slander ... hoping that I wouldn't call you out on it?
Now, since I thought my statement was very easy to comprehend by use of common sense ... yet you till seem to have either not comprehended it or chosen to ignore the validity of it and distort it for the illusion of your having justification to hypocritically comment and label me as you have .... I shall repeat myself again ... and elaborate further on that elaboration.
I said:
Alternate said:
I don't know all of the ingredients in some of these supplements, nor do you.
Hello?!?!?! Where does heightmax.com explain what vitamins, minerals and amino acids are in their supplement?.... AND, where does it explain what the quantities of each of those are?... AND where does it explain what variations/compounds/etc of each of those may be? Answer- No-where.
Just in case you still aren't following(yes, I know that is condescending, but also getting very rationally justified, and still in good fun, so read all the quotes about being friendly/not getting pissed off/not gett5ing in the fire if you don't like the heat etc and take a chill pill), how can you shop for something when you don't know what you are shopping for? Metaphorically speaking, how can you buy the right plane ticket to meet your friend when you don't know where to meet your friend? Your chances of doing so a very slim. You'd have to guess the right ticket,location/vitamins,mineral,nutrients, amino acids. Hope this is easier to understand now.
My sincere apologies for any fault on my part to not explain further or more appropriately before. In all humility, I thought my previous statement were plain to comprehend from common sense.
Mosterson said:
Im gonna go ahead and give you MY conclusion.
Your a no common sense having,eccentric, ignorant, quote crazy weirdo!
Conclusions are what you have been giving all along. Mostly you've done it without any rationale. At least this time you tried to concoct a conclusion based on some substance. However, I must say, your conclusion is poor, inaccurate and hypocritical at best.
To be a picky "jackass" for fun - the correct spelling is "You're".
There'a slot of those little spelling eorros. I like to use "spelcheck". I understand. I make typos too. Just having fun.
"no common sense having" - hell no. Already showed you why that is extremely false and hypocritical and you just haven't understood me ... likely due to your fatigue, apathy, ignorance, or lack of common sense ... and maybe due to my choice of vocabulary or volume of posts.
"eccentric" =
Departing from a recognized, conventional, or established norm or pattern.
Well, I agree with you to some extent. I was "eccentric" when I was skipping school to party and failing miserably due to not putting in any effort. I was also eccentric when I started paying critical attention and getting straight As
ans A+s while many of the rest got frustrated of not having the interest, zeal or intellect to keep up. However, I am quite normal in many ways. I am a humble human. I think over 90% of us are capable of perfect understanding of everything if we take the time and effort. I can choose to be less "eccentric" in different crowds. If I want to be irrationally conclusive and hypocritical, I can fit in with that (to mostly my disliking) ... and if I want to be the opposite (my natural choice and desire) then I can fit in with that. It seems that you are really explaining that you think I am different from YOU. Maybe I am. You'll decide why for yourself.
"ignorant" - hell no. I did not ignore anything here to my knowledge. My apologies if I did. I actually already proved why this is false and hypocritical as well. If you choose not to be ignorant and apathetic of this post, then you can read the proof.
"quote crazy" - I already explained that I quote for you to understand more clearly from the organization. This is out of respect and consideration to anybody who reads. That's what the quote feature is for-clarity. Get over it.
"weirdo"- synonym for eccentric, basically. I guess we all repeat ourselves sometimes. Sometimes we know it. Sometimes we don't.
If you meant to describe lunacy or something of the sort-keep this in mind:
"The difference between dreamer and genius, between lunatic and visionary, is very thin." -Dan Gurney
My conclusion- is basically this entire post. To add last remarks, I would ask you to please remove the stick from your ass which appears to be inserted so far up that it is screwing your brain. You've been really up tight, aggressive, irrational, hypocritical. Again, don't get all pissed off just because I point out my observations and unequivocal facts with rational and accurate vocabulary to fit the definitions, metaphors to relate and jokes to give humor (duh).
Don't give me that "wannabe smart ass" crap about how it must have taken me this whole week to type this post either. I have a life. I chose to not view the forum for a week. I got on and posted this just now. Granted, it did take me about 45 minutes, but it has been fun and I have the time for that today. I know many people read this for/surf the net for multiple hours a day. Occasionally, I focus my time on certain posts/topics. Although this post may seem like an "attack" to you or some "defensive aggression" or even "passive aggression", I really don't mean it to be that way. I am just helping with some understandings and having some fun while I'm at it.
To get more general about the topic, instead of you and me, this stuff may work for some people and may not work for other people. I already stated what I think may and may not work. I did not say that anything will definitely work or not work because I do not know. I can guess and hypothesize from rational discernment of info, but I don't know of any info thus far that can make my totally conclusive about what I have discussed.
Whether all of this turns out to be bogus for everyone, helps some people, helps nobody etc is beside the point of discussion in my opinion. The discussion itself serves to help people discern info and to understand each other. That is what the forum is for (duh).
Its's not the critic who counts....The credit belongs to the man who actually is in the arena, who strives violently, who errs and comes up short again and again...who if he wins, knows the triumph of high achievement, but who if he fails, fails while daring greatly. -Theodore Roosevelt
When we all have rational discussion to try to understand every point of view in calm, civil, analytical, articulate ways ... we are all right ... whether some of our particular hypotheses or conclusions were wrong or right along the way.
Also, to "succumb" to the more "childish" modern slang, in order to show humor and fun and to state the obvious, I have just completely "OWNED" you.
Still, sincerely, peace.
