Doesn't make any sense.

habban;693601 said:

Yes, i guess i have to aim for the 5+ inches in meg and pass the toilet roll test

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Whats the toilet roll test?

Comparing your erect girth to the inside core of a roll of toilet paper.

There are, though, different sizes/diameters of those out there, so while (if you keep using the same brand) it's an Ok visual on how your own girth gains are coming along, it's not .. as a 'standard' .. necessarily something which can transfer to another person's size since the brand of toilet paper they use might have a different diameter core.

Asanon;693634 said:

Comparing your erect girth to the inside core of a roll of toilet paper.

There are, though, different sizes/diameters of those out there, so while (if you keep using the same brand) it's an Ok visual on how your own girth gains are coming along, it's not .. as a 'standard' .. necessarily something which can transfer to another person's size since the brand of toilet paper they use might have a different diameter core.

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I use a paper towel roll

habban;693539 said:

I don't want this thread to go away from the subject and the thing i actually want to investigate here, im just saying this because it usually seems to happen if i seem to bring too hard questions to the table.
Either people are too lazy to answer or they basically doesn't have anything helpful to say about it.

Kyomoto: Yes, i'm measuring erect. When i measure i usually measure right before the PONR to be sure i'm properly filled with a good amount of blood. Sometimes i measure earlier for comparison and such.

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Okay well measure erect before any exercise and measure softly not compact.

I have around 6 and half inches of girth, a bit more but my point is this. I can take a measuring tape and wrap it with so much tightness that my measurement could be 5 inches or less. The idea of measuring girth is that the tape covers the skin entirely around the penis without applying pressure.

doublelongdaddy;694093 said:

I have around 6 and half inches of girth, a bit more but my point is this. I can take a measuring tape and wrap it with so much tightness that my measurement could be 5 inches or less. The idea of measuring girth is that the tape covers the skin entirely around the penis without applying pressure.

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Ye, that is a big change. The thing is.. I was thinking that the increase of girth by PE could be just because of thicker/more elastic skin on the shaft, or/and perhaps bleeding under the skin or whatever it's called.
To determine if the new "thickness" is working as it should we would need to know the amount of pressure a vagina puts on a penis and try to simulate it with the measuring tape to get a better understanding on what kind of "girth" is
active during stimulation.

People say they see responses from their girlfriend when they add in size. But what they response too could very well be the EQ gains, a harder and stronger penis. Because the thickness/elasticy of the skin that you gather up aswell is too smooth/soft
to be adding any sensation at all to the girl as the vagina compresses a lot.

Similar to steroids. It looks tough & big, but it's only like an air filled baloon after all.

Also it doesn't seem like a coincidence that you can push your girth down from 6.5 to 5 and maybe more. This makes sense with my theory. As you started with a girth of 4.75
You can compress your penis almost 2 inches god dammit. If i compress i can compress down to my starting size too, but i can't compress 2 inches. Why? Because i haven't gained 2 inches yet.
It all makes a little bit of sense. But i'm gonna try harder to see if i actually can compress 2 inches and see if it works before i say too much.

Just train girth and see the girls reaction during sex see it for yourself. If your erection is squishy you need to work your EQ. You are honestly a little more than obsessed about measurement I think u need to let it go for now.

acromegaly;694109 said:

Just train girth and see the girls reaction during sex see it for yourself. If your erection is squishy you need to work your EQ. You are honestly a little more than obsessed about measurement I think u need to let it go for now.

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Relax brother. Your reply is not arguing properly against what i recently said. Don't try to switch subject or at least come with better arguments than accusing me for being obsessed or having a squishy erection quality, or that i should try and see for myself?
I know the difference when you screw a girl with good and bad EQ, it's a game changer.

I'm not offended about your comment, just tired of your way to argue against the points i point out. It's like you don't see what i say or rather ignore it, or doesn't have knowledge about this particular thing.

habban;694115 said:

Relax brother. Your reply is not arguing properly against what i recently said. Don't try to switch subject or at least come with better arguments than accusing me for being obsessed or having a squishy erection quality, or that i should try and see for myself?
I know the difference when you screw a girl with good and bad EQ, it's a game changer.

I'm not offended about your comment, just tired of your way to argue against the points i point out. It's like you don't see what i say or rather ignore it, or doesn't have knowledge about this particular thing.

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I know all say measure soft without compressing is the correct way to do, ofcourse it is, it has always been like that when you measure once penis, but when this way of measuring was brought to business as the most obvious way to do it, they
didn't count with, that a penis was affected by natural penis enlargement. You get me now?

Example: You kick the ball at this angle to bend it/curve it the guy said. The other guy said: Yes i used to do it like that, but since i have new shoes now i have to do it differently to reach the same effect.

Perhaps a bad example, but i hope you get my point. Yes, you measure "non-compressed" because it's the usual way to do it, but there was no natural enlargement taken into account the first time. And perhaps you can't compare a non PE trained penis with a PE trained penis.
Perhaps they differ.

habban;694102 said:

we would need to know the amount of pressure a vagina puts on a penis and try to simulate it with the measuring tape to get a better understanding on what kind of "girth" is
active during stimulation.

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The pressure applied by vaginas would vary so much from vagina to vagina that getting a standardized measurement would be impossible. Waaaay too many variables from vagina size, elasticity, age, pelvic floor muscle strength etc...

...trying to get a standardized and repeatable amount of pressure using measuring tape to work out the hardness and density of girth gains would be equally difficult. You'd need some sort of calibrated tool to do it.

I see what you're getting at with the hardness/density of girth gains but it would be impossible for everyone to apply the same amount of force with their tape measures, that's why measuring around the outside without compression is the most accurate way to record gains.

Same goes for BPEL measurements. Even though they don't truly reflect visual size, the bone is our only constant point to measure off since fat pads can vary over time and change size rapidly.

Either way, if your current girth gains are soft, it's still more surface area and mass rubbing inside the vag. The gains will more than likely become denser over time as the cell structures fill out.

Keep in mind that when you compress something the surrounding area will expand...you're not actually 'losing' any girth, it's just being displaced somewhere else. I've encountered a few very snug vaginas and as I enter, I can literally feel the area below my glans get squished down the shaft slightly until she has become used to the size...after a few strokes and patience, it goes back to 'normal'. (then it's time to stretch that back wall and cul-de-sac out :cool

MaxRichards;694119 said:

The pressure applied by vaginas would vary so much from vagina to vagina that getting a standardized measurement would be impossible. Waaaay too many variables from vagina size, elasticity, age, pelvic floor muscle strength etc...

...trying to get a standardized and repeatable amount of pressure using measuring tape to work out the hardness and density of girth gains would be equally difficult. You'd need some sort of calibrated tool to do it.

I see what you're getting at with the hardness/density of girth gains but it would be impossible for everyone to apply the same amount of force with their tape measures, that's why measuring around the outside without compression is the most accurate way to record gains.

Same goes for BPEL measurements. Even though they don't truly reflect visual size, the bone is our only constant point to measure off since fat pads can vary over time and change size rapidly.

Either way, if your current girth gains are soft, it's still more surface area and mass rubbing inside the vag. The gains will more than likely become denser over time as the cell structures fill out.

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Thanks, great reply. I have thought about what you said aswell.

I will not get far with this discussion though, because it's gonna end with the conclusion that i have to keep going and see for myself what happens. The real decider for me is going to be
the toilet roll test. When i have reached 5 - 5.1 MEG the current toilet roll i have should not let my middle zone of the penis pass. If it does, i can't came up with another explanation that the skin
compresses by the toilet roll and lets me in anyway, and that wouldn't be a real 5 incher there. Because it's only skin growth and not actual internal instructure that grows, like the CC/CS. I'm close however, i'm between 4.7 - 4.8

And then the conclusion would and should be that yes you can grow your penis to an extent by doing keegels and stuffs to promote blood flow to your penis to make the CC/CS expand to the genetic potential. The rest gains you made after that
is due to skin swelling. If you have sensitive skin you are more vulnarable to skin growth.

MaxRichards;694119 said:

The pressure applied by vaginas would vary so much from vagina to vagina that getting a standardized measurement would be impossible. Waaaay too many variables from vagina size, elasticity, age, pelvic floor muscle strength etc...

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Excellent point!

doublelongdaddy;694143 said:

Excellent point!

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It's a good point i have thought about ofcourse, but you could still generalize that there is a specific lowest point of pressure a vagina would do and still talk about what i just said. This point doesn't break my theory. It just breaks a way to try the process.

Habban, how soon after doing girth exercises are you measuring? It could be edema giving you a higher measurement that's easily compressed maybe. Could take a few days for that to completely dissapate.

Jack Leg;694177 said:

Habban, how soon after doing girth exercises are you measuring? It could be edema giving you a higher measurement that's easily compressed maybe. Could take a few days for that to completely dissapate.

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I measure everytime i edge, which i try to do everyday even though i don't exercise. I usually exercise every other day.

Still, if it's edema it could also mean as i have pointed out before.. That girth gains will go over to Edema after a certain extent, Lymphoedema to be exactly. Lymphoedema will become more and more permanent if you don't treat it. And with PE you create it and retain it regularly.
If you have Lymphoedema on your penis your penis will be more prone to infections. It's not healthy, but if you want to create the look of a bigger penis, keep going.

Lymphoedema, I'll have to read up on that, although other than base girth, I've made little gains in girth.

Jack Leg;694197 said:

Lymphoedema, I'll have to read up on that, although other than base girth, I've made little gains in girth.

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Lymphoedema is still just an assumption from my side. I have not been on it or examine it enough to say it's 100% sure i am right.
But EQ gains are very real. Do keegels & edging and you will grow your penis more than you thought was possible.
There is a guy that got banned from thundersplace that had a really interesting theory on how gains are made, i think according to how i have seen everything happening on myself he is very correct.

habban;694161 said:

It's a good point i have thought about ofcourse, but you could still generalize that there is a specific lowest point of pressure a vagina would do and still talk about what i just said. This point doesn't break my theory. It just breaks a way to try the process.

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There are so many variables in this that coming to a true conclusion is mathematically impossible.

kyomoto said:

You answered your own question "tight measuring technique" will make your shaft get smaller because you're making it Compact. Your "soft measuring" is going to be your best bet BUT you're girth has to not have been worked out for at least 1-2days so that you can see your true flaccid or erect size.

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I woke up this morning with a semi erection of about 40%. My penis was so thick. I felt energized.