I like this thread, but I don't see how civilization in itself decreases penis size. All throughout history you have men who are either small, medium, or large. This is for any race, anywhere. Maybe certain races have a higher rate of small or large, but to this day, any group whether it be a college computer club, an african tribe, a chinese village, an australian outback club, a Roman infantry, a native american tribe, whatever you can think of, there will be different sizes among the group, and the norms of all groups will continue to be similar. The stereotypes are all false, I've seen ���� from all over and guys simply have a wide range of different sizes in ALL RACES. It all depends on the individual and what you do about your current circumstances and the choices you make in regards to your goals whether it be PE or designing a satellite transponder. Not everyone in the tribe will hang their penises, some do it more than others, just like in a modern society not everyone hangs or does PE either, and there's a much larger population in a civilized society anyway, so this is another reason why things are very similar. I don't believe civilization has any SIGNIFICANT effect on penis size. For instance I was circumsized in America when very young because of all the brainwashing medical and corporate conglomerates that use the skin for creams and various products, but I choose to move on and better myself in as many areas as I can. I can do foreskin restoration instead of spending time rationalizing and fighting their actions.
In regards to modern society, I think we have the biggest NORM SIZE in all of history, it only makes sense as we procreate and pass on genetics, so civilization did not affect size. Of course civilizations have not been perfect anywhere in the world, but we continue to get smarter and grow in all areas. Especially with all the ���� that's now available in all modern societies we are bigger than ever as a whole, because I know ���� increased my size starting at a young age when I didn't know about PE. I would instinctively compete mentally and physically even trying to stretch hard and etc. as a kid to compete with ���������. Because of this I believe America is very high, if not the highest on the size chart in terms of NORM SIZE, but that also doesn't mean guys in an Asian country aren't busting their balls to attain their ideal size, or some computer geeks here aren't putting the work in. It can be from anywhere, which is why race studies aren't viable in this regard. There will be those who use their penises more than others, in any type of society or race. This is why race comparison is ridiculous to me. Religions take away more freedom than anything and impede the exploration of mind and soul. Sure we think of Major country's governments as Spies and Big Brother figures, but we still have the ability to chase positive dreams, like for some may be PE and a degree, for others they don't care about PE but love cooking and electronics, or inventing a better pollution filter, whatever the hobbies and goals may be. And we as PE guys are just a very small fraction of the world's population. Many don't do it, but that doesn't mean they are having problems either. They have other goals. In the entire world more than half the people are positive and the rest are negative, and the normal people who have had pain inflicted upon them by the negatives can either choose to deal with it for the better or become them. We have members here who are also negative all the while doing PE. This goes back to original outlook. Individual choices. This is why I disagree, hope it's understandable.
But the number 4 is pretty good
