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I started to do 2 new studies since I have some time finally. The first is going to be a closer look at depression and how it affects our Penis Enlargement routines. I myself do not suffer from clinical depression but I have gone through small bouts of depression and during this period my routines suffered tremendously. I want to explore negative attitudes and how we let them dictate our progress. I also want to give some good cognitive information on dealing with this issue. I would love to hear anyone’s thoughts or contributions on this. I decided to start this study because of some of the men I work have these issues and it become very difficult for someone suffering with these afflictions to move forward. Even if they go through the motions there is still a component that is missing. I want to find out what it is and try to offer some good, solid remedies to help in this.
 
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Hello,just registered on the forums.

I was depressed for about two and a half years or more and never seen a doctor.I pretty much kept to myself for the most part and stayed home alot.During that time i had started to P.E but never followed through with it because of becoming disheartened by not seeing instant gains.I didnt follow the workouts completely though so im sure that had something to do with this.I recently had seen a doctor and he prescribed paxil.He mentioned sexual side effects but the only one i was informed of was just slowed ejaculation(which he also added was something alot of men quest for.lol never had a problem in that area so i didnt care).Anyhow i just as recent as a couple of weeks ago quit taking them because i read about some more side effects and also because of decreased libido.I had began P.E again right around the same time(cant remember exact date).I have been following the beginning routines word for word since 5/30/03 and havent took a real measurement since then or anything.I think the key for me not becoming depressed by results or allowing depression to effect workouts is to measure less often.If i measure and see no results,i would become disheartened.If i measured and seen a gain,even a small one,it would drive me onward and give me that extra motivation.

Just my thoughts :)
 
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Oops,meant to say been doing P.E now since 4/30/03,not 5/30/03.Sorry about that :D
 
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I guess I never understood what depression really was. I thought it was something you just let yourself get into.

I went to the dr. a couple of weeks ago and was told that I had a chemical and hormonal imbalance which were causing very severe depression. The dr. explained that it was nothing I had done to cause this but was probably brought on by stress from the divorce last year. The dr. said it would take approximately 6 months of medication (effexor xr) to get things back to normal. The side effects alone from the meds are enough to drive ya crazy. Luckily the side effects are almost completely gone now.

I guess after all I have read here and elsewhere in the last couple of weeks on depression that I have been lucky. The gains are still coming. Haven't really done a complete workout in about 3 weeks. Yet...I have actually gained an 1/8 inch in flacid stretched and bone pressed erect length in this time. The fatigue from the depression has been awful. Things are looking better now and hopefully in about another week I can do a better workout again.
 

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I had depression, anxiety, paranoia and suicidal thoughts years back in my early/mid-teens.
I was a MESS.
I am ALOT better now, but I am on medication to this day, not anti-depressants but summut to help me, chemicals in my brain aint right ya see.

I still get negative thoughts now and again, but my Penis Enlargement aint effected by it anymore, except that it can make me lazy....I reckon alot of my de-motivation has been from my moods.
 

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I tried Paxil once. All it did was give me severe abdominal cramping and the shits. Man, fuck all those pills . I've tried Prozac and almost slit my wrists, tried Celexa(?) and got nothing... there is no escape.
 
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How do you know if you have depression? I am sitting here at 7:30AM because last night I felt bad and couldn't really figure out why. College life is stressing the fuck outa me as I have a very hard schedule this semester and I am also a pledge. I also have very deep issues with my girlfriend.
 

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I dont know how to answer that. For me, I don't know what its like NOT to have depression, since I have since I was about 12 yrs old.

If you go to college, I suggest taking advantage of their health program if they have one and talking to a psychiatrist or psychologist for an intake or uptake or whatever its called.
 

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Originally posted by Synthetic
How do you know if you have depression? I am sitting here at 7:30AM because last night I felt bad and couldn't really figure out why. College life is stressing the fuck outa me as I have a very hard schedule this semester and I am also a pledge. I also have very deep issues with my girlfriend.
Depression is most often associated with four types of symptoms:

Changes in mood: People with depression have either a persistent feeling of sadness, or a reduced feeling of pleasure in activities (hobbies, family activities, etc.) that were once considered enjoyable. There may be a decline in having sexual relations. Sometimes depression is experienced as intense irritability.

Physical symptoms: The most common physical symptoms involve:

Appetite: Reduced appetite, often with weight loss, is often seen. Increased appetite and weight gain may also be associated with depression.

Sleep: The most common sleep difficulty is awakening early in the morning. However, some people experience excessive daytime sleepiness, difficulty falling asleep or frequent awakenings during the night.

Other physical symptoms: That may be present are headache, constipation, and general aches and pains.

Energy level and motivation: Depression often makes people feel profoundly tired, lacking energy and feeling unmotivated. Some people actually experience a physical slowing down, or a feeling of agitation and restlessness.

Changes in thought pattern: People with depression often have negative thoughts. Feelings of helplessness or hopelessness are prominent, as are guilt or pessimism. Self-esteem and self-confidence may suffer since they do not feel good about themselves. Many depressed people complain that they can’t focus their attention, have trouble concentrating or can’t remember things.

Anxiety: The vast majority of people with depression also have accompanying symptoms of anxiety, such as excessive worrying, nervousness, restlessness, panicky feelings or difficulty falling asleep. In fact, these symptoms may be so severe that many people seek help from their physician for anxiety, only to find that they are suffering from depression.
 
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jesus ive basically got every single one of those symptoms

maybe i should get help
 
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Does depression just happen or what? I mean I have had a lot of those symptoms for the past month or so I would say.
 

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well I have and still do feel like shit for 2 weeks now...hardly done a fucking tap of npe/pe :mad: I feel far to pissed of and unhappy to do any.

I am really stressed the fuck out at the mo'' with work mainly...but I seem to get into these *bouts* of depression every few months or so.........anyone else here had this before? what the hell is it?
I am on medication...it works has done great but I still get these damn bouts.
 
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Everything around me is fucking stressing and I don`t see even one thing hat is happening to me. I think iI`m gonna go crazy. It`s already beggining. Hopefully I will be better when I reach my aim in Penis Enlargement. Guess I could say that I`m deppressed.
 

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Hello everyone and greetings to DLD! New member - just registered today.

I think I have been depressed for roughly two years, although I think its important at least in my situation to distinguish between biological depression and situational (cognitive) depression. I work for a consulting firm that does alot of work in the areas of organizational psychology, and we draw alot of data from clinical studies. You guys know how most studies are, especially the softer science ones done in the academic arenas...see one and ill show you two others that contradict it.

Obviously, there is the neurological based depression, caused by an imbalance in the brain's chemistry. I don't have an opinion on this, since I really havent studied it enough myself, but here is what I've gleaned from talking to different people in the field. Quite a few of them claim that the actual occurance rate of true biological imbalances that would bring on mild symptoms and not escalate into something like schizophrenia is very low, especialy when compared to the amount of scrips written for prozac, etc. They say the cause of this is that the true underlying causes for behavior are so deep and complicated, that its easier to medicate then go through the painful and often unsuccessful process of true treatment. If thats true (not saying that it is, just heresay) then I'm not sure whether it is an indictment of the medical profession or not. Is it just being practical or is it them cheating us and taking the easy way out? I think that would be up to the individual patient to decide.

Now, to DLD's suggestion for cognitive solutions (knew I'd get around to it sooner or later). In my work we do alot of psych testing in employees of large companies. The ratio of depression gets higher the younger the subjects are. There's a caveat in there though, being that older generations may be less willing to discuss or be truthful about such things. But taken that people were relatively honest, this seems to be becoming more prelavent with each concurrent generation. The one common denominator seems to be expectations. Each generation (I'm 28) is raised to have higher and higher expectations out of life, and as we get older and the real world starts kicking us, we realize we're not going to be a famous rock star or emperor of the world, and i think we get wrapped up in our disappointment, some of us to the point of paralysis. Poonologist used the best word for it - disenheartened.

A small practical piece of P.E. advice for those of us who suffer either from chemical based or situational depression, to follow the cognitive approach - I dont know whether it will help or not, but its the only way that I was even able to get myself started. I'm beginning this program not to have an 11 inch beast or give DLD a run for his money, but simply to be healthier and have a healthier penis. At least for me, that reduces the expectations, since I think that us Type "A"s are more easily afflicted by disappointment. We expect 100% return for 100% effort, and it crushes us when we dont see results that reflect our sacrifices of time, energy, effort. Basically, in terms of Penis Enlargement., I think if you take the approach that the first step is to get healthy and return the muscular/vascular strength to what it should be, then the gains you could see in that process will be surprising and give you a foundation with which to hope for more.

Keep in mind that I'm a rookie here, and if this post is inappropriate or offbase, please feel free to delete it. Dont want to speak out of turn.

Thanks, and its good to be here.

Hobgoblin
 

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Originally posted by Hobgoblin
distinguish between biological depression and situational (cognitive) depression.
Of course there is a debate as to whether there is even such a thing as "biological" depression.

I tend to agree with the Dr. Szasz school of opinion on this one ( and this is coming from someone who has "suffered" from depression). Personally, however, I do have some reason to believe some mental "disorders" could in fact be based in actual medical science. If that is the case, they would have to be treated medically.

It is my overwhelming belief, though, that most if not all depressive disorders are not "diseases" and are really just thought disturbances that must be overcome and controlled cognitively.

I thought your post was rather useful overall.
 
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Depression is most often associated with four types of symptoms:

Changes in mood: People with depression have either a persistent feeling of sadness, or a reduced feeling of pleasure in activities (hobbies, family activities, etc.) that were once considered enjoyable. There may be a decline in having sexual relations. Sometimes depression is experienced as intense irritability.

Physical symptoms: The most common physical symptoms involve:

Appetite: Reduced appetite, often with weight loss, is often seen. Increased appetite and weight gain may also be associated with depression.

Sleep: The most common sleep difficulty is awakening early in the morning. However, some people experience excessive daytime sleepiness, difficulty falling asleep or frequent awakenings during the night.

Other physical symptoms: That may be present are headache, constipation, and general aches and pains.

Energy level and motivation: Depression often makes people feel profoundly tired, lacking energy and feeling unmotivated. Some people actually experience a physical slowing down, or a feeling of agitation and restlessness.

Changes in thought pattern: People with depression often have negative thoughts. Feelings of helplessness or hopelessness are prominent, as are guilt or pessimism. Self-esteem and self-confidence may suffer since they do not feel good about themselves. Many depressed people complain that they can’t focus their attention, have trouble concentrating or can’t remember things.

Anxiety: The vast majority of people with depression also have accompanying symptoms of anxiety, such as excessive worrying, nervousness, restlessness, panicky feelings or difficulty falling asleep. In fact, these symptoms may be so severe that many people seek help from their physician for anxiety, only to find that they are suffering from depression.

Yeah , I pretty much have all of those.

I do however vary in my moods , often when I'm at work (bartender) I can be very positive and seem like the life and soul of a place , I don't know why , probably becasue I don't have time to think about myself. Its something I have trouble with within myself, the worst is the nervousness , I am paranoid often that everyone is looking at me , or people I don't know don't like me etc.
 
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The more time I am by myself, the worse I get. I get into some really periods of depression when I dont hang out with anyone and then at other times I start getting togther with friends and my life is realy great again. Keeps goin up and down. At really bad times when im feelin depressed I dont try that hard when im doing Penis Enlargement. But ya im kinda gettin over the whole feelin depressed thing I try and stay around people as much as possible, and that keeps me feelin good, and stayin on top of my Penis Enlargement.
 
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A lot of random thoughts:

I fall into depression off and on. It's actually very easy for me to slip into depression, and I naturally don't care about most things, which leads others to worry about me. I also fall in love quickly and easily. It's a horrible quality, and I've always gotten burned by it, but I never learn my lesson.

I cut my wrists from time to time, but not in an attempt to kill myself, just to release pain, and it works really well. It's sort of a samurai ritual whenever I do it, I have candles and incense and really go all out with it. Kinda saidstic, but oh well.

I once was perscribed an anti-depressant medicine, and took it for 3 weeks. During those three weeks I was a zombie, it was horrible, so I dropped them. I'd rather feel bad then feel nothing at all.

CYiNiSiS
 
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Ive been depressed ever since i was in elementry school. I think it was mostly because i was self concious about my looks and it made me shy towards girls and prbly has an affect on me now with the ladies. i have more confience now but i still get depressed from time to time, well actully all the time. Mostly cuz i cant get this gurl i want, but thats a whole other story. I hate life i wish it were better...i hate my penis..lol...i hate work. In sep. I started taking zoloft, but then i ran out of money so i couldnt afford em anymore. When i got off them..I had the worst side effet...like i was feeling the weirdest dizziness ever. i would feel like im light headed all the time..kinda intense. BUt any who, regardless of how depressed i am...im working on it..tring to get my life better...My penis...gettting that gurl :D...well ima stop writing now...cuz its makin me depressed jus writing about this..lol..l8ter
 

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