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I cut my wrists from time to time, but not in an attempt to kill myself
Cutting Disorder


Copyright 1998, Cheryl Wills, New York 1 News


NY1 spoke with a woman who we'll call "Maria" while she cleaned up her own blood from a stairwell in an East Side apartment building. "Maria" was not attacked or in an accident - she intentionally cut herself with a razor blade. You'll find out why in a moment, but first you need to know that "Maria" suffers from a disorder called "self-mutilation," which is also known as "cutting."


"Maria" says, "People can see [my scars], and I'm too afraid to tell them about a razor blade because I don't think they understand, so I just tell them that they're scratches, and that they're just like a nervous habit."


But it's not just a nervous habit - it's a serious psychological disorder that requires medical attention. "Maria" is now getting help from her psychotherapist, Dr. Steven Levenkron, who is also the author of a new book called "Cutting."


Dr. Levenkron says, "Self-mutilation is cutting yourself, burning yourself, lacerating your skin, attacking your skin in a variety of ways to perceive the pain and to feel the pain involved, because the pain involved and the blood that is seen distracts people from their emotional pain."


And that's why "Maria" has been cutting herself on her arms since January. She explains: "It feels better to watch the blood come out of the cuts, and it's like hoping or wishing that it was like something that's bothering me."


"Maria" was so nervous before our interview started, she pulled out a razor blade and sliced her arms. Dr. Levenkron says, "We are not talking about people with healthy, intact relations to people. We are talking about people that feel profoundly lonely and profoundly separate from the rest of the world."


"Maria," who is a 30-year-old pre-med student, also suffers from an eating disorder - anorexia. When she cuts herself, she says she doesn't feel any pain: "It doesn't hurt at all sometimes when I do it. I don't really remember doing it."


You would think from the wounds on Maria's arms that she's suicidal. She's not. "Maria" says, "It's not even that I want to hurt myself either, it's just that letting out the pain."


Dr. Levenkron explains, "This is not a suicide attempt. It certainly is an expression of disappointment with life - but that's very different from a suicide attempt."


It's estimated that up to two million people - mostly women - are cutters. The disorder usually begins around pubertym and Doctor Levenkron says the psychological symptoms include withdrawl, moodiness and depression. The obvious physical symptoms are many scratches and nicks on their forearms, chest or stomach.


Dr. Levenkron says even though cutters are usually careful not to kill themselves, they sometimes make dangerous mistakes. He told us, "[A razor blade] is, unfortunately, the weapon of choice. It can cut deeply and quickly, cutting arteries and tendons. I have had patients requiring microsurgery after making cuts."


Therapy is not easy for cutters like "Maria." Dr. Levenkron says it could take years to help a patient stop cutting themselves because the disorder is a complex web of low self-esteem and a lack of self-respect.


Dr. Levenkron concludes: "We can't just take away the razor blade and say, 'Now you're all right.' The razor blade is the tip of the iceberg."


But "Maria" says no matter how long it takes, she's going to hang in there so she can learn how to cope with her pain without shedding her blood.
 

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Pain release's addictive (to some people) endorphin's...If I remember correct, your brain release's a pain killer approx. 100 time's more powerful than morphine (with out so much the euphoria). It's suppose to be similar to a jogger's high (I'm not real sure on this), but to "them", it's much more convenient to cut instead of jog. LOL Of course, I can do it without cutting or jogging...

I personally think that too many people are on pill's...Yeahhh, they're fun to take every now and then, recreationally...but to be on them everyday because some psychologist say's so, is fuk'd up. We've become a nation where nearly all of are population relie's on the pharmeceutical companies to live a happy life. More people need to learn how to run their own brain instead of making these pharmeceutical compaine's richer. I've recently been learning a mind technology DHE (Design Human Engineering) and I've been learning to precicely control my emotion's, state's of mind, attitude, behavior's, skill's etc. in every area of my life (very cool stuff). I'm about to get to the part where Bandler teach's you how to recreate past drug state's (or create very intense state's) without having to take a drug.

You see, your mind is nothing more than a computer-like instrimute with all the chemical's that you need...and now all you have to do is learn to tap into your unconcious-mind and control, change and even install different "thing's". Since your unconcious mind control's all emotional/response's, state's, behavior's, etc., then if you could tap into that using different method's, you could literally control your whole world...or at least how you experience. He goes in how to install "machine-like" device's (a set of sequential anchor's) so you can install, for example, a compass, alarm clock, an equalizer that can control chemical's/endorphin's (serotonin, dopamine, adrenaline, etc.) and pretty much anything you can think of, within reason. Don't get confused and think of these as real physical (like a brick would be) machine's. These are nothing more than a set of sequential anchor's (or metaphorical hallucination) that you voluntarilly hallucinate (for lack of a better term). Their is alot better article's that describe what it is than what I can explain it, so if anyone is intersted in reading more about DHE or NLP, I can give a few link's.

I might have to make this a seperate post, so that I can keep you all up-dated.
 

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DLD, great research. I've read a lot about cutting on the net and whatnot. I'm in to psyche and brain function and all that stuff.

Personally, I don't have that disorder, I do it strictly for the pain of cutting. I don't do it very often at all, and when I do, I always have a perfectly sterile scalpel and take precausion not to just cut anywhere. I personally believe there is a difference between ritualistic cutting and nervous cutting. They both are means to the same end, but just like everything else, if not done in moderation, it becomes a problem.

Just a brief look into my mind I guess: I'm into pain and stuff like that. For years I backyard wrestled with all my friends, and we went all out and didn't pull any of our punches. During high school, I had 14 peircings in my face/ears that I did myself with a "hot topic" 3 inch safety pin. I guess I'm just a freak thats into pain :).

On a lighter note, since starting Penis Enlargement a month ago, I have become much more confident, although I haven't really seen any gains, persay, my flacid hang is much more consistent, my dick is really vainy, and looks much more heathy than before I started. I seem to be able to get laid at will, haha, which is a major step from my random sex that I have gotten before. I love to Penis Enlargement, and I'll probably continue doing it till I reach my goal of 8x6 (right now im 6x5 NBPenis EnlargementL) and after that I'll probably continue doing it recreationally, although I don't want any more gains than that.

Again, great job DLD. The fact that you do study pertinent information to Penis Enlargement and are regulary part of the community and always looking for ways to improve YOUR Penis Enlargement are the reasons that I love hanging around this community. Thanks a lot.

CYiNiSiS
 

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SLICEDBEEF said:
You see, your mind is nothing more than a computer-like instrimute with all the chemical's that you need...and now all you have to do is learn to tap into your unconcious-mind and control, change and even install different "thing's". Since your unconcious mind control's all emotional/response's, state's, behavior's, etc., then if you could tap into that using different method's, you could literally control your whole world...or at least how you experience. He goes in how to install "machine-like" device's (a set of sequential anchor's) so you can install, for example, a compass, alarm clock, an equalizer that can control chemical's/endorphin's (serotonin, dopamine, adrenaline, etc.) and pretty much anything you can think of, within reason. Don't get confused and think of these as real physical (like a brick would be) machine's. These are nothing more than a set of sequential anchor's (or metaphorical hallucination) that you voluntarilly hallucinate (for lack of a better term). Their is alot better article's that describe what it is than what I can explain it, so if anyone is intersted in reading more about DHE or NLP, I can give a few link's.

I might have to make this a seperate post, so that I can keep you all up-dated.
If you're into psychological control and stuff like that, you should look into LUCID DREAMING. It is the process of becoming aware of your dream state, and taking control of your dreams. It is VERY HIGHLY effective for recreation, as well as OVERCOMING FEARS. Not to mention it's fun as hell to be able to do anything you want in a world YOU created.

A year ago I had a horrible fear of losing control, and the way I found this out, ironically, is when a woman handcuffed me to a bed. I started convulsing and almost puking, and I was pulling so hard on the handcuffs, my wrists got lacerated by them. It was a horrible experience, which I overcame by LUCID DREAMING. It is seriously one of the most fun things ever, and all of the sensations are very real. >>>AND<<< it can play MAJOR role in gaining confidence with women, it has helped me out a ton in that area. The mind is incredibly facinating and there is so much yet to learn about how it works.

If anyone is interested in LUCID DREAMING, I will start a new thread here on all of the steps required to learn how to do it.

CYiNiSiS
 

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cyinisis said:
DLD, great research. I've read a lot about cutting on the net and whatnot. I'm in to psyche and brain function and all that stuff.

Personally, I don't have that disorder, I do it strictly for the pain of cutting. I don't do it very often at all, and when I do, I always have a perfectly sterile scalpel and take precausion not to just cut anywhere. I personally believe there is a difference between ritualistic cutting and nervous cutting. They both are means to the same end, but just like everything else, if not done in moderation, it becomes a problem.

Just a brief look into my mind I guess: I'm into pain and stuff like that. For years I backyard wrestled with all my friends, and we went all out and didn't pull any of our punches. During high school, I had 14 peircings in my face/ears that I did myself with a "hot topic" 3 inch safety pin. I guess I'm just a freak thats into pain :).

On a lighter note, since starting Penis Enlargement a month ago, I have become much more confident, although I haven't really seen any gains, persay, my flacid hang is much more consistent, my dick is really vainy, and looks much more heathy than before I started. I seem to be able to get laid at will, haha, which is a major step from my random sex that I have gotten before. I love to Penis Enlargement, and I'll probably continue doing it till I reach my goal of 8x6 (right now im 6x5 NBPenis EnlargementL) and after that I'll probably continue doing it recreationally, although I don't want any more gains than that.

Again, great job DLD. The fact that you do study pertinent information to Penis Enlargement and are regulary part of the community and always looking for ways to improve YOUR Penis Enlargement are the reasons that I love hanging around this community. Thanks a lot.

CYiNiSiS
CYiNiSiS, Thanks for the complements, the main reason I am so involved with the mental aspect of Penis Enlargement is because this is where I needed to make my biggest gains. Thanks for reading the information I posted. I was not trying to diagnose your condition, I was only worried for you and wanted to give a abstract point of view. My hat off to you humbleness.

DLD
 

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Well,

I can say that I am officially diagnosed with depression, and Social Anxiety Disorder..

I started Penis Enlargement 6/01/04, and everday since i measure.. same with when I started A Weight gain program, I step on the scale everyday.

But even though I see no changes (only a fool would think you could grow so fast)
I say to myself "all in good time" I keep my head up and continue moving forward and doing the exercises.. Becuase really its the only choice I have, becuase if I quit.. Well I've already been down that road and theres no pussy down that way, feel me?

I have been depressed for so long, 4 years.. And I've probably made it worse with all the drugs I took. And, I have did lines with so many people, and smoked with even more.. And I have 0 friends... I'm not to good with females myself.. I am a great-looking guy, im confident in my looks, you would drool if you saw some of the ladies that liked me, but never once did it work out.. why? females dont want insecure, unconfident guys, they find confidence to be an attractive trait. Just lately, I told an Ugly girl that I liked her, why? ugly girls are easy to get, and i really wanted some head.. A great-looking guy like me should hve no problem pulling an ugly chick.. WRONG! Turns out she doesnt like me and I get to stay an 18 year old virgin. she told me the only reason why she wanted to chill is when I got weed, burned by an ugly chick. Whats even worse now I realy like her becuse I cant have her... At first, I felt like shit, maybe I was just really stoned but that same night I bought n 8th of Amnesia haze and smoked it all in one big bowl after another.. Thats the last time I smoked, and it will be until im 160 and 7x6...She may have broke me... but "through every dark night, theres a bright day after that.. So no matter how hard it get, stick your chest out, keep ya head up, and handle it" -2pac


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wdis3, I can feel you and wanted to give you some help. Here is a little-known secret...being confident starts with acting confident. You see, improving your self-image works in a cycle. You can begin by simply acting more confident and the rest will fall into place.

Here is a very interesting article by a woman on male confidence, the author is unknown, but I think you will find it a good read.

What Do Women Really Want?
Attention Men!

I am now going to tell you something really important about what women want. Specifically, what they want in a man. Be advised that I will be dealing with a monumental but accurate generalization. It's not meant to apply to every female who ever lived. I bow to the variability within and between the sexes. Nonetheless, I think I am on fairly safe ground here. My assertion has the undeniable thud of the obvious.

What women want from men is confidence. Not arrogance, not dominance, not one-upsmanship, not bravado, not macho heroics. Women just love truly confident men.

Confidence is an attitude thing. In particular, male confidence frequently manifests as an I-can-handle-it attitude. This does not mean that feelings are denied. It doesn't imply an absence of doubt, fear, or vulnerability. A delusion of total self sufficiency is not required.

Confidence simply says: "I can deal with it . . . somehow . . ." This attitude doesn't even have to be constant, just generally present in the face of most life challenges.

For hundreds of thousands of years of human development, a confident attitude was much easier for men to gain and display than it is now. There was hardly any choice. Until recently, the demands of physical survival were the primary issue in pair-bonding and confidence-building roles directly related to survival were far more apparent. Everyone could see the skilled hunter, the dedicated farmer and stockman, the courageous protector, the skilled artisan, the accomplished leader, the sage teacher, the men who didn't give up in the face of threatening set-backs. Why hell! There have been times when a women wouldn't even consider a man who couldn't claim to be a good carpenter or a competent dirt mover. These roles, decreed by harsher realities of life than most of us now experience, were obvious advertisements for male virtue.

Unfortunately, the signs indicative of genuine masculine confidence are confusing today and gender roles are a chaotic mess. The external trappings of confidence have been confused with the poor substitute of consumer status symbols. But women instinctually look for clues to a man's level of confidence . . . and test it to the limit . . . but not in the old-fashioned way.

Now for the good news. Since confidence is primarily an attitude toward meeting challenges of all kinds, and there's no shortage of challenges in the world, the essential attitude can still be cultivated and demonstrated. Willingness to face important struggles is still the ultimate key to a woman's respect.

In contemporary times, a man may express this dynamic in many conventional ways. He can show his integrity through competence in his work, education, sports, hobbies, child rearing, or doing home improvements. Actually, we can include here any thing which involves mastering a new learning curve and overcoming ego uncertainties.

Now, if a man really wants to do some crash confidence building, he can try the old-fashioned approach. He can expose himself to bigger risks: jump out of a few airplanes, compete at martial arts, lift weights, climb sheer cliffs with only the strength of his fingertips for security, take on dangerous political controversies, start an unusual new business with more enthusiasm than capital, confront provocative teenagers, or spend days in the wilderness with only his tom-tom for company. It's not the specific activity that matters, what matters is what goes on in the man's head that makes him feel masterful.

Or . . . a man can cut to the bottom line, avoid physically and financially dangerous experiences, and go for the really big risk, the ultimate emotional challenge. He can work directly at becoming more confident with women themselves. That's riskier than cliff climbing, anyway! Although a woman likes to believe a man is willing to deal with a lot of things, what really counts is that he is able to deal with her. A healthy, mature woman resists impassioned commitment to a man who is afraid of her sexuality, her intelligence, or her emotions.

Gentlemen, the Everest you need to climb isn't a mountain, it's a strong female. This means gaining confidence and empathy in approaching and relating to women on many levels, in the face of rejections real or imagined. And since this is the riskiest venture of all, the pay-off is, appropriately, the biggest.
 

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Thanks for that post, DLD. I have depression as well, but what I find helps is if I slow down my thoughts and journal them. I also go to NA for a drug problem. Today is 130 days clean! *Whoops and hollers for self* I was first on Lexapro, then Effexor XR. They both didn't do shit. Effexor was a lot worse though. The side effects were terrible. I was soo tired all the time, and if I missed two days worth of medication, I felt like I was having a drug withdrawal. It was terrible, and I finally got off of it. I tried suicide twice, survived, obviously and am now free for the most part of my depression. It was a hard time back then, and I almost flunked 9th and 10th grade because of it. My motivation was so low it wasn't even funny. Good luck and persevere to all those that currently have it!
 
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doublelongdaddy;2 said:
I started to do 2 new studies since I have some time finally. The first is going to be a closer look at depression and how it affects our Penis Enlargement routines. I myself do not suffer from clinical depression but I have gone through small bouts of depression and during this period my routines suffered tremendously. I want to explore negative attitudes and how we let them dictate our progress. I also want to give some good cognitive information on dealing with this issue. I would love to hear anyone’s thoughts or contributions on this. I decided to start this study because of some of the men I work have these issues and it become very difficult for someone suffering with these afflictions to move forward. Even if they go through the motions there is still a component that is missing. I want to find out what it is and try to offer some good, solid remedies to help in this.
This thread was written almost eleven years ago but this words are something i have dealt whit because my routines get affected by ideas and feelings affecting me..Hope nothing goes worst this time and i start a solid routine..
 

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shortdick;628174 said:
This thread was written almost eleven years ago but this words are something i have dealt whit because my routines get affected by ideas and feelings affecting me..Hope nothing goes worst this time and i start a solid routine..
The studies were done but at this point I have no clue where they are or what I names them. If I come across them I will bump those threads. It is so weird to look back this far and see that my depression was not severe how it is today, I guess it is a progressive disorder.
 

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I started to do 2 new studies since I have some time finally. The first is going to be a closer look at depression and how it affects our Penis Enlargement routines. I myself do not suffer from clinical depression but I have gone through small bouts of depression and during this period my routines suffered tremendously. I want to explore negative attitudes and how we let them dictate our progress. I also want to give some good cognitive information on dealing with this issue. I would love to hear anyone’s thoughts or contributions on this. I decided to start this study because of some of the men I work have these issues and it become very difficult for someone suffering with these afflictions to move forward. Even if they go through the motions there is still a component that is missing. I want to find out what it is and try to offer some good, solid remedies to help in this.
really old thread still is an obstacle for most...Wonder if people can follow a PE routine and have a life specially when we cant afford a reasonable amount of time getting bigger...and deals whit depressive periods...
 

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really old thread still is an obstacle for most...Wonder if people can follow a PE routine and have a life specially when we cant afford a reasonable amount of time getting bigger...and deals whit depressive periods...
I used to have a very big problems with depression and I wrote on it quite a bit. It’s a terrible place to be and I got out of it and I’ll never go back. When I was depressed my life sucked. Today I live in complete peace and happiness. My life is very simple but it’s filled with blessings. Anyone who needs help with depression, I’m here 24 hours a day to listen. No one should have to suffer with depression and there are ways out if you really really want to work on it.
 
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It's a good bump, as lot of PE is about mental visualization and having the power in your mind to go through with certain routines.

I'm somewhat depressed, it's partially due to hormonal imbalance, I'm waiting for my doctor appointments at the moment. I've self-medicated with Mucuna Pruriensis (Dopa Mucuna) and various vitamins and other supplements .
With this said, if one does have depression, it's good to have your bloodwork done. It could be an imbalance related to several factors.
Vitamins B and D affect mental well-being a lot. You can get D just going outside when the Sun is shining or take a supplement. (Here where I live, supplementation is pretty much mandatory for greater well-being.)
B I take as a supplement. A good multivitamin can have a nice spectrum of the necessary vitamins.

Again this comes as TL;DR, so:
Depression can be caused by hormonal imbalance, get your blood checked. (Ask for Testosterone, vitamins B and D.)
Eat a balanced diet and concentrate on the good things, no matter how small and insignificant they might seem.

Greatest health to all the Brothers out there!
 

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A very good thread indeed. Depression is a tough thing to deal with and I am here for anyone who suffers to let them know I can relate, I was depressed to the point of suicide. This went on for years. When they finally, by the grace of God, was I set free. It has been four years now with no depression 😇❤

I used many methods until I came up with what worked for me. I would love to tell my story but I will wait for others to respond.
 

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It's a good bump, as lot of PE is about mental visualization and having the power in your mind to go through with certain routines.

I'm somewhat depressed, it's partially due to hormonal imbalance, I'm waiting for my doctor appointments at the moment. I've self-medicated with Mucuna Pruriensis (Dopa Mucuna) and various vitamins and other supplements .
With this said, if one does have depression, it's good to have your bloodwork done. It could be an imbalance related to several factors.
Vitamins B and D affect mental well-being a lot. You can get D just going outside when the Sun is shining or take a supplement. (Here where I live, supplementation is pretty much mandatory for greater well-being.)
B I take as a supplement. A good multivitamin can have a nice spectrum of the necessary vitamins.

Again this comes as TL;DR, so:
Depression can be caused by hormonal imbalance, get your blood checked. (Ask for Testosterone, vitamins B and D.)
Eat a balanced diet and concentrate on the good things, no matter how small and insignificant they might seem.

Greatest health to all the Brothers out there!
Vitamins, testosterone,low self-esteem,etc self image etc
 
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Nowadays, I think allot of folk think they are depressed, when really they are just feeling sad, or down in mood which is normal for everyone.

Real depression, depression that is medically diagnosed is something you cant snap out of, it cant be switched off ... horrible thing, can take its toll, and eventually kill a person if its not treated.

I know, firsthand experience having suffered with it.

My testosterone levels are above average, the doctor told me its just a new thing the medical world has tried grasping at to explain shit, with testosterone levels... much of it with me, was linked to social isolation which was part of the Asperger syndrome I have, awquard socialization and isolating oneself from others, when in reality you dont want that at all, and this brought about many issues for me in the past.

I've learned to deal with my emotions, thoughts, feelings, triggers now, and on a low dosage of anti depressants. They dont do anything tbh but its such a low dosage I dont give a shit about them ... was on 250mg last year, now its 75mg and had my eyes checked recently ... excellent vision the optician said, showed me the scans at the back of my eyes .. dont need reading glasses ... was shocked because it was so easy reading the smaller text then 5 years ago at my last test ... my eyes have improved he said :) I think its down to the improved mental state, and going down on those meds.

On the whole, unless someone has a medical condition, or sudden traumatic, stressful event in life, depression to me is often caused nowadays by how we see ourselves, by stupidly always comparing to others, and all this social media shit, celebrity ass kissing reality t.v loving shiet that we are forced fed day in day out! no wonder folk are getting more and more off the rails.

Allot of young folk today simply want allot of cash, to be rich and famous ... that's it! they assume by being filthy rich you are always happy, have a great life (cwl) I have genuinely known a few rich people, and they were all unless on drugs or drink, miserable all the time ... but money is meant to take it away right? nope, it can help to wallpaper over the cracks sure ... you are better able to mask the worlds worries, but sooner rather then later these rich folk with issues end up taking either a deliberate, or accidental overdose.

It is a shame, really it is ... the humans on this earth have become wicked fiends, and in the next few hundred years if we dont figure out how to colonize space, the human race will simply be wiped out by either itself, or the earth will fight back and consume all. Simple as that.

All this nasty stuff ^ to each other is linked to depression, because it can bring it on in people with such prolonged emotional, and psychological isolation and trauma, what do they expect will happen? its either that or folk become very bitter, angry, and vengeful.

Be careful what you watch, how you think, try to be grounded, and remember, most of what you read, hear and see from anything media related is tainted with a spin ... it aint all true ... even some events that occurred in war have been deliberately distorted for the masses.

I'm far from perfect, but I have changed allot over these past 10 years into more positice person. Still times when I find myself judging someone when I should not, or getting involved in something I neednt be involved in ... but so long as you ACHNOWLEDGE this in your own mind at some point, and make a change for it to not happen again, its all good
 

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Can sadness turn into depression...This can be a chemical imbalance or emotional too.
 

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Can sadness turn into depression...This can be a chemical imbalance or emotional too.
Sadness is very different than depression. Sadness is a healthy feeling when things are sad, it’s a normal part of the grieving process. Depression is dark and has no real meaning or reason for being there. It’s the opposite of sadness in the way that the feeling is one of numbness. When I used to be depressed I felt nothing, I was empty and I hated everything. So sadness this will never turn into depression unless you mis-manage your sadness.

Depression starts out small and it grows bigger and bigger and if we don’t deal with feelings in the moment or we just push the feelings back and don’t deal with the real problem. Depression requires therapy, sometimes medication, learning to remain in the moment. Remember that depression is when we lived in our past regrets and anxiety is when we worry about the future. So keeping your self centered is so important to avoid and depression.
 
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