templnite;678035 said:
Nah that was just to save face. Told me the same a few days ago "don't talk to me", but still tries to act raw smh. I gotta admit deadwood handled this one flawlessly unlike I that had to resort to name calling/pointing out flaws towards the end. I was on the crusade for a whole month too, but damn man this one took two days bruh XD! I cant say means justify ends, but finally the objective was met which is just transparency/honesty.

Jimmy hats off to you brother you truly know the art of gore :), and to think they were saying "ban him" a little while ago XD. The puppies out here, mike doesn't answer to you. He's like Shao Khan up in here saying fatality.

Hey deadwood. Deadwood provided everyone with a lot of lies. He asked wuestion and I answered them with facts. I then showed him messages that he ignores b/c he is caught being wrong. You are a troll.
 
youknowme123321;678004 said:
Poor guy. It must be tough saying things and then having people show you're wrong :( and lying



GIVE ME A "V"- V. GIVE ME AN "A"-A. ETC ETC. All you need is a nice short skirt and some pom poms and you can cheer lead for vachanging.

Dude, you proved I am "wrong"? How ? I gave my honest opinion about vachanging. Personally I met three guys that successfully hang over 10 pounds. One being you. Do I believe all three? Nope. I don't believe not a one since all three are rah rah cheerleaders and I suspect connected to vachanging. I gave my experience and MY honest opinion. Am I right in deducing vachanging is not the way of the future? Maybe. Who knows. But am I wrong? Nah. Am I lying? Nah. I actually had to pay 150 bucks for mine. I wish I would have bought the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] first.

You can't show me "I am wrong" because this is my opinion based on PERSONAL experience where I actually paid for a product. See that's the difference between a whore and girlfriend- You get sex free from a girlfriend, you pay a whore. You get paid. Guess which one you are?
 
youknowme123321;678044 said:
Hey deadwood. Deadwood provided everyone with a lot of lies. He asked wuestion and I answered them with facts. I then showed him messages that he ignores b/c he is caught being wrong. You are a troll.

How so? I have been having problems hanging more than 5 pounds from the get go. Anyways, why do you care so much? Unless you have a ve$ted interest why do you care? I am 100% truth son. Sorry about backing an inferior product. Better luck next time.
 
Please Brothers, post threads in the proper forum. The more time I spend moderating the less time I can spend helping people.
 
deadwood187;678059 said:
GIVE ME A "V"- V. GIVE ME AN "A"-A. ETC ETC. All you need is a nice short skirt and some pom poms and you can cheer lead for vachanging.

Dude, you proved I am "wrong"? How ? I gave my honest opinion about vachanging. Personally I met three guys that successfully hang over 10 pounds. One being you. Do I believe all three? Nope. I don't believe not a one since all three are rah rah cheerleaders and I suspect connected to vachanging. I gave my experience and MY honest opinion. Am I right in deducing vachanging is not the way of the future? Maybe. Who knows. But am I wrong? Nah. Am I lying? Nah. I actually had to pay 150 bucks for mine. I wish I would have bought the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] first.

You can't show me "I am wrong" because this is my opinion based on PERSONAL experience where I actually paid for a product. See that's the difference between a whore and girlfriend- You get sex free from a girlfriend, you pay a whore. You get paid. Guess which one you are?

Hi tempinite. Below you can read your posts. You do not share them as opinions. You say that going over 5hg will start discoloration. Then go on to say higher hg will be worse. You say this as fact as if it pertains to every man. You say vacuum is vacuum is vacuum and that no matter what it is going to lead to negative effects. That is not sharing an opinion. You talk like what you're saying is fact and that it will happen to everyone. Me saying that so far I like the LGhanger a lot is an opinion. But then I go on to say I'll be sharing more information as I continue to use the tool and then I will make videos for everyone both of how I use water and how much weight I end up being able to hang.

For once you actually give an opinion. You're right. Is it wrong to say you think vachanging isn't the future...no you're not. Am I wrong to say so far I really like it and am looking forward to continuing progressing with vachanging...no I'm not. I don't about my vachanging experience very much in this thread and that's b/c I am still progressing. I spend most of my time showing how out of your mind you are in this thread.

I keep responding to your poor quality posts b/c you keep saying I have a vested interest in tools on my site. I have shown you multiple times that I have no affiliation. I showed you that I don't use tools the way companies say to and I share with men how to use them more easily. SWM even called you out b/c you think anyone who is affiliated can't be trusted and guess who is affiliated...MOS and DLD. FUnny how you never responded back to SWM's post. You keep saying I get paid you, shill. I don't get paid. Go back to post #92 where I answered your question and showed how stupid you are by showing I don't only give positive reviews of tools. I show how to make tools work better by not doing what the companies who sell the tools say to do.

No one believes you've even used any vac hanging system. Or that you have taken steroids. All you do is get off on talking like you know something and calling people names and acting like you're smart. Such troll behavior.

deadwood187;678061 said:
How so? I have been having problems hanging more than 5 pounds from the get go. Anyways, why do you care so much? Unless you have a ve$ted interest why do you care? I am 100% truth son. Sorry about backing an inferior product. Better luck next time.

Hi again tempinite. AS I explained above and you can see in your quotes below you have never shared an opinion. You talk like what happened to you will happen to everyone. And b/c I have pics showing that I can hang much more and have no negative effects you attacked me. I never messaged you until you messaged me and started calling me names and saying untrue things like I'm affiliated, that I went on to show how you were lying. I don't back any products you shill. I share information on all kinds of PE tools including tools I don't like such as the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] or x4 [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]. Even with vachangers I don't recommend using tapes to prevent blistering b/c I got blister when I did this. But others say tape prevents them from blistering. I say to use water with vachanging which isn't recommend by the sellers of vachangers. I fond ways that make tools work for me then I share them. Take care tempinite

deadwood187;677595 said:
Vacuum is vacuum.It has limitations due to the pressure the vacuum creates. No amount of engineering will stop the laws of physics.

And why trust YKM? He has vested interest in products. They properly called him out elsewhere. It would be like trusting you.If you have a vested interest in a product your word means jack.

deadwood187;677790 said:
No. You come in to shill certain products (Vachanger being one) and push your OWN product. I'll leave it at that.

Vacuum is Vacuum is Vacuum. Anything over 5HG will start discoloration. Anything over 10HG is going to be hard on your penis, 15 HG +- you are asking for trouble. Do you know, or HAVE EVER MEASURED, how much HG the vachanger has on 5 pounds? I have measured 12 HG. Another guy on TP measured 15 HG. So tell me now: How the HELL do you manage 10+ pounds? Oh I know, with little kiddie tricks in your video. Vac hanging is not the ideal way to hang Period. End of story.

deadwood187;677861 said:
Anything over 5 HG will cause discoloration. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] goes up to a max of 8 HG (measured). And how many complaints you get of discoloration? And that's using water and most can't even get up to 8 HG with a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], most get to 7 HG. So vachanging , which easily can get up to 8 HG on 5 pounds, won't cause discoloration? Get outta here .

I don't run a commercial account nor do I get paid or get free stuff to be a shill so no videos. Unlike you I don't make money off this stuff. Vachanging is a terrible ideal and the 1000's of threads complaining about vachanging and high weights is testament that this experiment is OVER.
 
youknowme123321;678112 said:
Hi tempinite. Below you can read your posts. You do not share them as opinions. You say that going over 5hg will start discoloration. Then go on to say higher hg will be worse. You say this as fact as if it pertains to every man. You say vacuum is vacuum is vacuum and that no matter what it is going to lead to negative effects. That is not sharing an opinion. You talk like what you're saying is fact and that it will happen to everyone. Me saying that so far I like the LGhanger a lot is an opinion. But then I go on to say I'll be sharing more information as I continue to use the tool and then I will make videos for everyone both of how I use water and how much weight I end up being able to hang.

For once you actually give an opinion. You're right. Is it wrong to say you think vachanging isn't the future...no you're not. Am I wrong to say so far I really like it and am looking forward to continuing progressing with vachanging...no I'm not. I don't about my vachanging experience very much in this thread and that's b/c I am still progressing. I spend most of my time showing how out of your mind you are in this thread.

I keep responding to your poor quality posts b/c you keep saying I have a vested interest in tools on my site. I have shown you multiple times that I have no affiliation. I showed you that I don't use tools the way companies say to and I share with men how to use them more easily. SWM even called you out b/c you think anyone who is affiliated can't be trusted and guess who is affiliated...MOS and DLD. FUnny how you never responded back to SWM's post. You keep saying I get paid you, shill. I don't get paid. Go back to post #92 where I answered your question and showed how stupid you are by showing I don't only give positive reviews of tools. I show how to make tools work better by not doing what the companies who sell the tools say to do.

No one believes you've even used any vac hanging system. Or that you have taken steroids. All you do is get off on talking like you know something and calling people names and acting like you're smart. Such troll behavior.



Hi again tempinite. AS I explained above and you can see in your quotes below you have never shared an opinion. You talk like what happened to you will happen to everyone. And b/c I have pics showing that I can hang much more and have no negative effects you attacked me. I never messaged you until you messaged me and started calling me names and saying untrue things like I'm affiliated, that I went on to show how you were lying. I don't back any products you shill. I share information on all kinds of PE tools including tools I don't like such as the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] or x4 [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]. Even with vachangers I don't recommend using tapes to prevent blistering b/c I got blister when I did this. But others say tape prevents them from blistering. I say to use water with vachanging which isn't recommend by the sellers of vachangers. I fond ways that make tools work for me then I share them. Take care tempinite




So you will insist we are the same people despite the fact you know we are not? You are using 80's style of Deflection Scientology propaganda to obscure the truth and facts. I have news for you: People are too smart for this shit these days.......see how dead the thread is? People know you are a shill and take your word as one of a paid off whore hawking garbage.

Here are the cold facts:

VACHANGER is only good for LIGHT hanging. Heavy hanging is not possible and anyone (well all three guys online) saying it can be used for heavy hanging is a shill or connected to the company.

It is a glorified [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penis pump[/words]. End of story. Case closed.

So you use your little kiddie 80's Scientology garbage of deflection and TRY to obscure the facts but facts are facts- It's a shitty hanger for length. SO save your money people. NO amount of your lunacy will change this.
 
When somebody moves their flaps that much you can tell they're desperate for attention, and will regurgitate the same shit forever, and ever untill some poor sucker buys into his mongolisms. The more they talk the more their credibility deteriorates to the point we find he is likely working toward his personal interests more than anything.
 
deadwood187;678193 said:
So you will insist we are the same people despite the fact you know we are not? You are using 80's style of Deflection Scientology propaganda to obscure the truth and facts. I have news for you: People are too smart for this shit these days.......see how dead the thread is? People know you are a shill and take your word as one of a paid off whore hawking garbage.

Here are the cold facts:

VACHANGER is only good for LIGHT hanging. Heavy hanging is not possible and anyone (well all three guys online) saying it can be used for heavy hanging is a shill or connected to the company.

It is a glorified [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penis pump[/words]. End of story. Case closed.

So you use your little kiddie 80's Scientology garbage of deflection and TRY to obscure the facts but facts are facts- It's a shitty hanger for length. SO save your money people. NO amount of your lunacy will change this.
See you say end of story case closed. You have never shared your opinion once. You only talk in facts like tempinite (which is you). ANd then you go on to say things without any proof just like tempinite (you). You're a lying shill and anyone who has read your posts see you say the same things over and over knows this. I only respond to you. ANd i also share my opinion and at least I'll be making videos that either show I can hang heavy or can't. So I'll be the one who actually says something about this subject that matters and has truth behind. But I'm not going to try and do it to fast.

You're the one who ignores and doesn't respond to posts that show you're wrong like mine and SWM's post to you. You're the avoider of facts.

Scientology references now tempinite? That's a new "religion" for you to start mentioning
 
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templnite;678198 said:
When somebody moves their flaps that much you can tell they're desperate for attention, and will regurgitate the same shit forever, and ever untill some poor sucker buys into his mongolisms. The more they talk the more their credibility deteriorates to the point we find he is likely working toward his personal interests more than anything.

You realize every post of mine has been in response to you and deadwoods (deadwood is you) posts to me. And you both keep saying the same things to me. And then b/c you have messaged me I message you back.

You are talking shit about yourself in the quote above. If you don't message me and tell lies I won't have to respond back and show how wrong you are.
 
Ok when is stillwantsmore gonna come to defend you. Aw I forgot he's thinks you're a shill too XD
 
templnite;678202 said:
Ok when is stillwantsmore gonna come to defend you. Aw I forgot he's thinks you're a shill too XD

SWM wasn't defending me you shill. I never said that. But I have point out on multiple occasions how SWM showed how deadwood's (which is you) thinking and what he says is flawed. And I have now added the quotes again for you. The first quote is deadwood's (tempinite's) unreasonable message to me. And the next message is SWM's to him (you). SWM's message wasn't to defend me. SWM is just a reasonable person unlike you and deadwood (both are you).

deadwood187;677595 said:
Vacuum is vacuum.It has limitations due to the pressure the vacuum creates. No amount of engineering will stop the laws of physics.

And why trust YKM? He has vested interest in products. They properly called him out elsewhere. It would be like trusting you.If you have a vested interest in a product your word means jack.

And below here is SWM response to deadwood (tempinite)
stillwantmore2;677682 said:
Standing by your philosophy there, why don't you just go ahead and say the same about DLD? He has a vested interest in every single product recommended here. YKM has no permission to represent anything here. Sure, he can tell us his opinions. I have permission to represent my devices here. You have a flawed thought pattern there, but whatever. I am here to represent my products, answer questions about them and I also coach men on using them...and on hanging in general.
 
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Ahh but you acknowledge how he feels of you. Ok that's good enough stillwantsmore's influence is strong af, and if he says you're a loose affiliate then so be it.
 
templnite;678204 said:
Ahh but you acknowledge how he feels of you. Ok that's good enough stillwantsmore's influence is strong af, and if he says you're a loose affiliate then so be it.

Look at that you told another lie...I never said anything about how SWM feels about me. Neither has he. You get caught lying so much, shill. You and deadwood are the only members (your both of these members) that any other members ever say are not good people and that you're rude and disrespectful. No one has ever said that to me. I act maturely with everyone and if myself and someone post opposing opinions we both share our sides and come to an agreement even if it is to disagree. But they and I share reasonable facts and opinion which is something you don't do whether you are posting as tempinite or deadwood.

SWM never called me an affiliate so don't go putting words in other people's mouths now. It makes you look even worse.
 
templnite;678219 said:

Who told me why what, shill? Thank you for linking that thread. It shows how much a liar you are and what people think of you.

Are you talking about SWM thinking I gave him an unfair review? And then he and I discussed it. That is not deflecting. It was the exact opposite of deflecting. We discussed it and came to a reasonable ending. I told him why I stand behind my review and then based on what he shared with me I added to my review to visit his forums and how to guide to get more detailed information about his wrapping/hanging recommendations. That starts at post #35 and ends at post #71 with various posts in between. And then post #72 and #73 were nice compliments to me. No one ever says you're a nice guy. They call you an instigator and that I'm wasting my time talking to you (they're right) but I can't let you just constantly tell lies and make up things. It's fun making a troll look like a troll.

Starting at post #43 was nice to read over again where superman shows how childish and unreasonably you act. Again thanks for linking that thread to show how poorly you act.

And look up what deflect means.
 
"Swm game me a compliment", so if somebody give me one I'm supposed to urinate all over myself like a dog when he sees his master? The only thing fun is the part where I call "somebody" a weasel, and you automatically think I'm saying you XD. Dawg everytime I see your posts I read it in your voice, and I nearly fall off my desk XDXDXD:P
 
templnite;678237 said:
"Swm game me a compliment", so if somebody give me one I'm supposed to urinate all over myself like a dog when he sees his master? The only thing fun is the part where I call "somebody" a weasel, and you automatically think I'm saying you XD. Dawg everytime I see your posts I read it in your voice, and I nearly fall off my desk XDXDXD:P

Poor troll. Always getting shot down. You try so hard. I'm sorry you're not good at life
 
templnite;678437 said:
More text for me to scan briefly then proceed to lay down the knowledge pipe likea bawse, damn :cool:. That thread is the worse thing that can happen to your credibility because you go from saying the vacs are the thing which will advance PE to saying they're will need to pass many years for anyone to say if vacs are actually effective good or not, to saying that even you need to see where the vac takes you which in your words is more than one years. I guess that settles it you cant push those products until 1+ years :blush:
Start taking lots of measurement pictures ykm you are the first person to show without a doubt if the vac hangers work or not. Happy gaining "D
 
templnite;678442 said:
Start taking lots of measurement pictures ykm you are the first person to show without a doubt if the vac hangers work or not. Happy gaining "D

Wow..in post #118 you quoted yourself...hahahahaha and left out my response to you. That is trolling 101 hahaha only giving one side of the story by quoting yourself...WOW

I already have the before pics and videos up on my site. I know you've seen them.

I'll be the first person to show without a doubt that any penis hanger works. Nobody has any conclusive evidence of compression hangers or vac hangers actually working.

Thanks
 
templnite;678446 said:
Yeah alright cowboy just make sure to learn how to wrap first XD in these posts you're begging stillwantsmore to show you how XD
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/hanging-around-penis-enlargement-hanging/87289-iveadreams-hanging-log-9.html#post678443

There you go lying again, cowgirl. Below you can see I am not begging. I simply ask if he made a video showing how he does his wrap and then goes right into hanging. One video rather then 2. You make yourself look so bad with all your lies, cowgirl. And I'm using a vacuum hanger...I don't need a wrap like that, imbecile.

youknowme123321;678443 said:
No need to say no offense. Doesn't matter to me how someone wraps. All that matters is any man finds the best way to wrap for themselves. WOuld you ever consider making a video where you show how to do your wrap then you apply the weight after showing how you apply the wrap and the hanger? That would help so many men

SWM - Do you have this video already? Or do you only show hanging once the wrap and hanger are already in place? If it doesn't exist that would be a great video. One straight shot.
 
Yeah you better quote that shit for me. Respect my green bars! Also don't get mad if I don't quote your replys because most of the time I don't even read them its always the same name calling anyway.
 
And you're gonna use the vac exclusively for that 1+ year not just say you did but really use MH(that's why you're asking for instructions on wrap):cool:Busted:cool:
My green bars demand this!
 
templnite;678448 said:
Yeah you better quote that shit for me. Respect my green bars! Also don't get mad if I don't quote your replys because most of the time I don't even read them its always the same name calling anyway.

I'm aware reading is tough for you. Remember you called others names first. Even got talked to about it from mods. Respect your green bars...hahaha everyone here calls you a troll and says to ignore you.
 
templnite;678451 said:
And you're gonna use the vac exclusively for that 1+ year not just say you did but really use MH(that's why you're asking for instructions on wrap):cool:Busted:cool:
My green bars demand this!

Hahaha more trolling. The MH isn't the tool for me. You know why I asked if that video SWM had made that video. In my message to Iveadream I say a video like that would help many men. Unlike you I hold no bias. I want any man using any tool to have the best chance to use it properly. Unlike you who is an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] troll. Every forum has them. Go mention [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] at the other forums and a trolling member just like you will pop up and say how you must be a shill for talking about the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] at one of the other forums. I've experienced talking about the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lm[/words] and MH2 at other forums. They have their own trolling tempinites over there that no on likes and everyone says to ignore

youknowme123321;678443 said:
No need to say no offense. Doesn't matter to me how someone wraps. All that matters is any man finds the best way to wrap for themselves. WOuld you ever consider making a video where you show how to do your wrap then you apply the weight after showing how you apply the wrap and the hanger? That would help so many men

SWM - Do you have this video already? Or do you only show hanging once the wrap and hanger are already in place? If it doesn't exist that would be a great video. One straight shot.
 
templnite;678425 said:
I wasn't even talking to you I know you're a fan boy of those products, I was letting the other guy know
youknowme123321;678428 said:
Yes you were you liar. In post #13 you were referencing what I said in post #12 only 9 minutes after I said autoextender and lg sleeves were the best. But you provided no info.
Troll
Lololol you posted in the wrong thread. I'm gonna cross-post on purpose because this needs to all be added to your body of work which is here. See i wasn't talking to you there on the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] thread I was just exposing what huge girth said before on his . He is a real mod here, and can pass judgement of that company since he's not a fanboy like fifteen year olds who like Justin Beiber.
 
templnite;678460 said:
Lololol you posted in the wrong thread. I'm gonna cross-post on purpose because this needs to all be added to your body of work which is here. See i wasn't talking to you there on the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] thread I was just exposing what huge girth said before on his . He is a real mod here, and can pass judgement of that company since he's not a fanboy like fifteen year olds who like Justin Beiber.

Yes you were talking to me. Right after I said I like autoextender sleeves, immediately in the next post you said huge girth said they suck. No one else mentioned autoextender sleeves except me in that thread and right after I did you posted about them sucking. You wouldn;t have said that unless I said that I like them. You just follow me around trolling. That is why everyone says to ignore you and you aren't worth the time.

Go read all my positive posts about the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lm[/words], pf, and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words] here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] you troll. You'll see I like many tools and help many men use them. You help nobody.

That is weird of you to reference your following me around here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] as being like a 15 year old who likes and follows around justin bieber. So you are to me as a 15 year old girl is to justin bieber...if you say so but I'd prefer you stop following me around in here and stop trolling. But hey...those girls don't stop following justin bieber either so I guess you're gonna be following me for a while. Just like those girls you have no life of your own...sad
 
You may find this hard to believe cause of your attention deficiency complex, but just because I post something generally doesn't mean you have to take it personally. I have told you how you require acknowledgment remember?
Well now you're proving just that by appropriating my posts. No one is talking to you were just talking, but you need attention so you make it about you.
Go to the thread in my signature where I wrote the prophesy long ago. You're trying to turn a prophet into a troll all because you want to turn a profit *illuminati confirmed*
 
templnite;678470 said:
You may find this hard to believe cause of your attention deficiency complex, but just because I post something generally doesn't mean you have to take it personally. I have told you how you require acknowledgment remember?
Well now you're proving just that by appropriating my posts. No one is talking to you were just talking, but you need attention so you make it about you.
Go to the thread in my signature where I wrote the prophesy long ago. You're trying to turn a prophet into a troll all because you want to turn a profit *illuminati confirmed*

Don't message me and I won't message you back. You commented to me about using water with hanging even though I wasn't talking about hanging I was talking about all night stretching. Then you responded to me talking about autoextender. I was messaging other members until you messaged me. And it my responses to you I was cordial until you went on to say accuse me of a nice plug. I was answering another persons questions and you just had to message me a try to troll me. Had you never messaged me I would have never messaged you. You are the one who always starts this.

I would never waste my time reading a thread written by you. I may as well put a computer in front of my pet and read what it manages to type out. if I was going to consider reading someone who talks about illuminati confirmations and calls himself a prophet. That is basic trolling right there
 
We can put an end to the violence just log out. You've only been here two hour longer than you usually are because of our little chat. Like I said its gonna be hard for you to get this, but subliminally you want me to keep talking to you. With the statement "fifteen year olds will always follow just Beiber so you must follow me a while too" you secretly wish that ill always be around don't you
 
templnite;678472 said:
We can put an end to the violence just log out. You've only been here two hour longer than you usually are because of our little chat. Like I said its gonna be hard for you to get this, but subliminally you want me to keep talking to you. With the statement "fifteen year olds will always follow just Beiber so you must follow me a while too" you secretly wish that ill always be around don't you

Please improve your reading skills. I bolded and increased the font size. Stop messaging me and making up lies and I will never message you, troll. You are the one who first messaged me and keeps on messaging me. If you never message me again I will never message you. The quote you provided wasn't from me, liar. I added the quote below so you can see what it actually says. Why would you write your own fake quotes when you can just click a button and get the exact quote...oh it's b/c you want to lie.

We'll see what your next lie is. Who knows maybe you wont message me again and then I will never message you. That would be so nice



youknowme123321;678469 said:
That is weird of you to reference your following me around here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] as being like a 15 year old who likes and follows around justin bieber. So you are to me as a 15 year old girl is to justin bieber...if you say so but I'd prefer you stop following me around in here and stop trolling. But hey...those girls don't stop following justin bieber either so I guess you're gonna be following me for a while. Just like those girls you have no life of your own...sad
 
youknowme123321;678474 said:
Please improve your reading skills. I bolded and increased the font size. Stop messaging me and making up lies and I will never message you, troll. You are the one who first messaged me and keeps on messaging me. If you never message me again I will never message you. The quote you provided wasn't from me, liar. I added the quote below so you can see what it actually says. Why would you write your own fake quotes when you can just click a button and get the exact quote...oh it's b/c you want to lie.

We'll see what your next lie is. Who knows maybe you wont message me again and then I will never message you. That would be so nice


Did someone forget to put an "off" button on this shill model? Jesus Christ you are obnoxious. Anyone trusting your word is an idiot
 
templnite;675240 said:
Water would amplify vacuum, and make it even worse

youknowme123321;675273 said:
It exists with water. I have experienced no blistering since beginning to use water. I did when trying to go heavy and use various wrapping techniques from tape to glans caps and everything in between. The vacuum pressure that exists within a vachanging chamber when using water is different from a water pump such as a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. With a vachanger there is no where for the water to escape from to apply the constant penis expanding vacuum pressure that we see with water pumps. Water pumps push or suck water out giving a negative pressure that results in strong vacuum pressure leading to tissue expansion. With a vachanger, once most of the air is removed from the chamber and it is clamped off so that no more air can escape, the vacuum pressure that increases with added weight leads to a compressing force to be applied to glans through the water. This compressing force provides protection against blistering and discoloration. I still experience slight glans swelling (edema) after removing the cap but that goes away within 30 or so minutes (though I wish it wouldn't, lol) and mild discoloration that goes away within 5 minutes.

Untrue. Read my reply above to SWM explaining why water works to prevent blistering and discoloration.

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View attachment 31226

Here you can see me hanging 12.73 lbs using the VH3 with water. I can maintain this weight for an hour with no issues. A small air bubble can be seen. The glans looks very enlarged in the pic but that is only b/c water magnifies. That much swelling has not occurred to me. I built up weight slowly though over a long period of time just like you should do with any hanging device. As I explained above the air bubble expands and increases in size with added weight but shrinks to practically nothing when no weight is applied. There will always be a small amount of air left in the chamber. At the top of the pic the 2 clips from the suspenders can be seen. Usually I attach those right to the glans cap bar. Since they are attached to the scale I couldn't get over 13 lbs b/c the suspenders were less stretched and I couldn't sit back any further in bed. The suspenders are at max tension. I will start using a resistant band again once I decide to increase the tension but for now I am comfortable here.

Since becoming more experience with vachanging over the months it is my belief this is the best way to hang. BUT ONLY WITH WATER!! If you don't use water expect blistering. The other benefit to water is you don't have to spend money on wrapping materials. Just super small amounts of water lol.

Tools like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] still have their place though. I recommend using one to perform manual stretches, especially bundled stretches, before a hanging session. I feel tools like the bib or malehanger2 will be used less and less until only the uneducated are buying them. And if money is an issue and that is why someone is buying a malehanger then look into the gripping trainer. It is cheaper and much better.
youknowme123321;679027 said:
I didn't say that. I never said there won't be increased pressure. I said that without water escaping through a port the increased pressure leads to a compressive force with the water on the glans resulting in preventing blood blisters. Below is a quote of exactly what I said..

You got all sciency about it here (the bold part shows vacuum behaving the same as any vacuum based tool , but you act like there's something magical about the hanger that changes laws of nature), but the fact of the matter is water does make the pulling force much greater and more dangerous in this instance.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-products-and-reviews/87595-lg-hanger-please-post-your-results-reviews.html#post679027
 
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templnite;679046 said:

You're doing this again. Even after you were told to stop.

Read through the few threads where only a few guys, who are Thunder's only promoters like you are an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] only promoter try to put me down and make up lies to connect me to a tool I have nothing to do with. Without any facts. But luckily I had contact with cooler moderators like there are here that just say to keep helping men and eventually the very few members like you tempinite will go away.

I won't say anything on the matter
 
What are you talking about did I do something wrong? Disclaimer: I would never go back to tp after they viciously attacked my eyes with their crappy posts. Honestly too, all I did was google thundersplace ykm fake, and I was taken to that first thread where I thought "damn this sounds alot like ykm" .
This second thread makes it even more evident what you're upset over, but this time I only googled thundersplace the gripping trainer
(you know that rip-off of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] that's not even worth two shits(dried), and a flaccid fuck?) Also why did you denounce your vac hanger faith in post four? I thought vac hangers were the future?
https://www.thundersplace.org/penis-hangers/advancement-of-penis-hangers-since-the-bib.html
 
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templnite;679055 said:
What are you talking about did I do something wrong? Disclaimer: I would never go back to tp after they viciously attacked my eyes with their crappy posts. Honestly too, all I did was google thundersplace ykm fake, and I was taken to that first thread where I thought "damn this sounds alot like ykm" .
This second thread makes it even more evident what you're upset over, but this time I only googled thundersplace the gripping trainer
(you know that rip-off of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] that's not even worth two shits(dried), and a flaccid fuck?) Also why did you denounce your vac hanger faith in post four? I thought vac hangers were the future?
https://www.thundersplace.org/penis-hangers/advancement-of-penis-hangers-since-the-bib.html

I tried to hang heavy to soon and paid for it then gave up on the VH3. Then after months of it just sitting around I gave it try again. I stopped using the vacuum ring and began just using a silicone sleeve, built up weight slowly and was able to hang 13 lbs with no issues. Unlike you I come to things or come back to them with an open mind. I hold no bias like the very few other discussion site members who kept coming after me or like you (who is also deadwood) who come after me here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. There is always some people who don't like people when they are talking about things outside of their comfort zone. DLD did and Thunder's gave him shit. I am not looking to develop what DLD has, I just decided to make videos to help men more easily with PE tools and provide them at no charge.

Just like you lied about me having vested interest in the LGhanger they were doing the same about me and the gripping trainer. I never got banned b/c the mods know there is no proof of anything anyone said and many members at Thunder's are very thankful for my helpful free videos that cover pretty much every type of tool.

It's funny...you make me think of Taylor Swift.
 
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templnite;679082 said:
There's nothing funny here.

yes there is. It's you reminding me of Taylor Swift. B/c she has that haters gonna hate hate hate song. You're the hater who keeps hating...on me. See...

You still keep coming after me even though you were told to stop. Are you trying so hard to get me banned that you're willing to get yourself banned again?

You didn't message me for almost 2 days after we were told to stop. It was nice. But then you just have to message me again. And with threads from Thunder's that got put to rest like the mods here are trying to do by telling us to stop. If those things being said over there were true I would have been banned but I am just providing a nice service that is available to their members so I was never banned.

Will you please listen to DLD and the mods and stop. It's nice when we don't interact or reference each other. Those 2 days were great. Let's go back to that b/c we were told to by DLD
 
What exactly do you want me to stop bro? No ones out to get you were just here talking like I was trying to with deadwood until you made yourself a victim. Why don't you shoot down my lies with hard facts like you used to instead of begging me to stop talking. That's all I'm doing after all just talking. If you think that Taylor swift has good advice then take it, and let me talk
 
I warned you about arguing and now there is a 2 week ban. This hopefully will stop this arguing. If after this 2 week ban you return causing trouble it will become permanent.
 
youknowme123321;679081 said:
I tried to hang heavy to soon and paid for it then gave up on the VH3. Then after months of it just sitting around I gave it try again. I stopped using the vacuum ring and began just using a silicone sleeve, built up weight slowly and was able to hang 13 lbs with no issues. Unlike you I come to things or come back to them with an open mind. I hold no bias like the very few other discussion site members who kept coming after me or like you (who is also deadwood) who come after me here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. There is always some people who don't like people when they are talking about things outside of their comfort zone. DLD did and Thunder's gave him shit. I am not looking to develop what DLD has, I just decided to make videos to help men more easily with PE tools and provide them at no charge.

Just like you lied about me having vested interest in the LGhanger they were doing the same about me and the gripping trainer. I never got banned b/c the mods know there is no proof of anything anyone said and many members at Thunder's are very thankful for my helpful free videos that cover pretty much every type of tool.

It's funny...you make me think of Taylor Swift.

Are you saying you don't use the pink ring and just use a sleeve?

I may try it but it's hard to believe you can hang 13 pounds with sleeve only. Won't it rip your skin?
 
The solution for avoiding blisters is to use protective caps like [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. With that we"ll never feel pain at all.
However we couldn"t never lift heavy weight (50 pounds)with vachangers.
 
Heavier weights increase the vacuum inside the vac hanger chamber. Eventually, that vac/gas finds a way through whatever barrier you try to use. That is, if you are continuing to force new adaptation to higher weight over time. Most men do not have the time in a day to simply keep adding more hanging time without adding weight.
 
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