VACHANGER: any one gain using lower weights (5 lbs and under) and longer times?
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I hang up to 13 lbs with the VH3 without any problems. I use water instead of tape and other materials though to prevent blistering or discoloration. Water works amazing. I hang 13lbs for up to an hour straight. I will be getting the LG hanger soon and supposed it supports more weight even easier.I'll soon find out.
I only recommend using any vacuum hanger with water. I'll be making a video showing how I apply it someday
I only recommend using any vacuum hanger with water. I'll be making a video showing how I apply it someday
stillwantmore
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I'd love to see a legit solution to blistering with vac hangers. I don't think one exists though. Outside the manufacturer and fanboy hype of a given device. The design of vac hangers is always the same and they all have the same limitations based around vacuum on the epidermis of the penis. You can only protect the penis up to a certain limit from vacuum. You cannot change the 'science' though inside the chamber. A certain weight will always create a certain amount of vacuum inside the hanger chamber.
I'm not knocking whatever device, I'm just sharing my thoughts from first hand experience with several device and feedback I've seen over several years. You can change a design all you want, wrap however, put whatever in the vac chamber, but you cannot change the fact that you still have a certain HG (or vacuum) inside it with each weight level reached. The penis can only adapt so much to whatever level of vacuum.
Penis pumpers only go up to and know not to exceed certain vacuum levels. Do vac hangers think the rules don't apply to them?
I'm not knocking whatever device, I'm just sharing my thoughts from first hand experience with several device and feedback I've seen over several years. You can change a design all you want, wrap however, put whatever in the vac chamber, but you cannot change the fact that you still have a certain HG (or vacuum) inside it with each weight level reached. The penis can only adapt so much to whatever level of vacuum.
Penis pumpers only go up to and know not to exceed certain vacuum levels. Do vac hangers think the rules don't apply to them?
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stillwantmore2;675183 said:
Yep this is what I am thinking. I find it very hard to believe some guys go over 10 pounds with this device. The pressure would be unreal.
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templnite
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Water would amplify vacuum, and make it even worseyouknowme123321;675143 said:
Max Whitewood;675172 said:
Yes. I have the sleeve rolled up and stretch over the chamber. I fill the chamber with a bit of water. You learn how much pretty easily but will likely use to much or to little the first time. Holding the chamber so the the opening is up and no water will spill out place my glans into the chamber and water. I carefully pull back my foreskin (I'm cut) and then use a few fingers to roll the sleeve off the chamber and over my penis. Before I roll the sleeve all the way down my shaft I stretch the penis lightly so that the sleeve doesn't cover more of my penis. I then pull my penis so it is point upwards and any air in the chamber is at the top of the chamber near the hose. I apply gentle suction with my mouth then disengage the clamp and suck out the air. Once there is no air I shake the chamber gently and pull on it to move around any air hidden in the chamber around the penis (there is always air around the glans). That air is then floating at the top of the chamber near the hose. I apply light suction and then disengage the clamp to suck out that air before clamping one last time. I am now ready to hang and there is minimal air left in the chamber. There is always a small amount left behind. In the pic I will post you will see air. As more weight is applied the air bubble looks bigger. When the weight is release the bubble's size decreases.
stillwantmore2;675183 said:
It exists with water. I have experienced no blistering since beginning to use water. I did when trying to go heavy and use various wrapping techniques from tape to glans caps and everything in between. The vacuum pressure that exists within a vachanging chamber when using water is different from a water pump such as a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. With a vachanger there is no where for the water to escape from to apply the constant penis expanding vacuum pressure that we see with water pumps. Water pumps push or suck water out giving a negative pressure that results in strong vacuum pressure leading to tissue expansion. With a vachanger, once most of the air is removed from the chamber and it is clamped off so that no more air can escape, the vacuum pressure that increases with added weight leads to a compressing force to be applied to glans through the water. This compressing force provides protection against blistering and discoloration. I still experience slight glans swelling (edema) after removing the cap but that goes away within 30 or so minutes (though I wish it wouldn't, lol) and mild discoloration that goes away within 5 minutes.
Commodore;675184 said:
Not till the new year. I probably won't receive it until the first or second week of December and then have to use it to be able to make a good honest review.
deadwood187;675190 said:
Read my explanation above to SWM. And I'll attach a pic for now that I took tonight while hanging with the VH3
Commodore;675233 said:
I'll have that video up in January but for now will attach a pic. I do it lying down in bed using suspender belts or a resistant band to create the tension.
templnite;675240 said:
Untrue. Read my reply above to SWM explaining why water works to prevent blistering and discoloration.
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Here you can see me hanging 12.73 lbs using the VH3 with water. I can maintain this weight for an hour with no issues. A small air bubble can be seen. The glans looks very enlarged in the pic but that is only b/c water magnifies. That much swelling has not occurred to me. I built up weight slowly though over a long period of time just like you should do with any hanging device. As I explained above the air bubble expands and increases in size with added weight but shrinks to practically nothing when no weight is applied. There will always be a small amount of air left in the chamber. At the top of the pic the 2 clips from the suspenders can be seen. Usually I attach those right to the glans cap bar. Since they are attached to the scale I couldn't get over 13 lbs b/c the suspenders were less stretched and I couldn't sit back any further in bed. The suspenders are at max tension. I will start using a resistant band again once I decide to increase the tension but for now I am comfortable here.
Since becoming more experience with vachanging over the months it is my belief this is the best way to hang. BUT ONLY WITH WATER!! If you don't use water expect blistering. The other benefit to water is you don't have to spend money on wrapping materials. Just super small amounts of water lol.
Tools like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] still have their place though. I recommend using one to perform manual stretches, especially bundled stretches, before a hanging session. I feel tools like the bib or malehanger2 will be used less and less until only the uneducated are buying them. And if money is an issue and that is why someone is buying a malehanger then look into the gripping trainer. It is cheaper and much better.
I will make a video in January. Sooner if we are all lucky but most likely not until the new year
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The whole idea of hanging is that you apply a good force a good time. With vachangers you cant even use more force than you could using two hands lol. With the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] you not only get way more pull, but you can do a thousand more exercises
templnite;675275 said:
Yes applying good force for a good time is important for success when hanging. This is possible with vachanging tools. If you read my post above you will understand and also see how it is achieved.
Why would you want to apply more force than you could using two hands with any PE tools? Attempting to do so with a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words], bib, malehanger, vachanger, or any PE tool would lead to bad injury. The hands can apply great force. Much more then anyone would want to use on their penis.
If you actually go back and read all of my post and not just scan over briefly, you will see that I recommended the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] b/c it can be used for performing many exercises.
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templnite
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Sure bud that's why nobody ever uses vachanger XD. Why try to make it more 'scientific' than it needs to be
Here is my glans within 30 seconds of removing the VH3 at 12.73 lbs for 62 minutes. No issues whatsoever. There is just very mild fluid build up (edema). Hope this helps men who have vachangers or who are interested in them. Sorry to those who don't want to see the benefits of vachanging but PE has to advance with or without you.
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templnite;675278 said:
Wow your responses are so useless. Really? You think nobody uses vachangers? PE will advance with or without you. Likely without you b/c you stick with a thought and there is no room for thought expansion and new ideas. You respond to reasonable explanation with nonsense. I am surprised you can read and write.
Why try to make it more 'scientific' than it needs to be??? how can you say that? Well you can say that b/c you type without thinking. If DLD and the other pioneers of PE thought that way PE would have never gone anywhere. They would have just agreed and not tried to make advancements in PE like they did. You want PE to stay right where it is now?
ANyone reading this please start at post #12. Pay special attention to the uselessness of tempinites posts
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templnite
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Vachangers are like a person using crutches. You cant get a compression type to work so you go with the baby type. I would like science to advance so they can help your voice not sound like a twelve year old chick XDXDXD
templnite;675282 said:
You realize I edit the video to change my voice? Well, you probably didn't know that. God you are something special.
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templnite
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Yeah bro I know you tried to change it but it didn't quite work you still sound like Alvin and the chipmunks
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deadwood187
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youknowme123321;675284 said:
going to try your set up tomorrow. Will report how it goes. Thanks for the pics, they really help.
templnite;675286 said:
Members like you being accepted here are the reason many don't come back. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] actually loses quality posters b/c of you and members like you. You are bad for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]'s bottom line at the end of the day. You'd be banned by every other forum a long time ago. Even non PE related forums.
ANyone reading this please start at post #12. Pay special attention to the uselessness of tempinites posts
deadwood187;675287 said:
You're very welcome. Just be sure to pull back your foreskin as much as possible.
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templnite
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Don't cry now :s
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youknowme123321;675284 said:
Thx a tonne for your help. Its highly appreciated, you dont know how much
I dont feel comfortable with wrapping but beleive this is the way to go to further my PE
Where did u get the VH3?
And do u believe in using the same water method for a vac-extender setup?
Max Whitewood;675332 said:
you're very welcome. I got it from autoextender. I've never used the vacextender
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youknowme123321;675335 said:
I meant to ask what your thoughts were regarding using water for an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] setup?
I guess if you're using vac with water for hanging itll be fine when attached to an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].
The noose and [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] just arent working good for me and im hoping the vac setups are the way to go
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deadwood187
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Max Whitewood;675392 said:
If you have a lot or meaty foreskin stay away from Vachangers. It made my head so fat my wife won't have sex with me anymore
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deadwood187
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youknowme123321;675143 said:
tried your method with water. It actually caused MORE swelling than no water. Vachanger goes in garbage tonight. I have one last device to try and I am done.
deadwood187;675403 said:
Please share pics of these results. Also pics of your set up. Even better would be videos b/c then you could get better help. With the easy access to camera phones everyone should be posting vids and pics to receive better help. Especially if they are truly interested in enlarging their penis. I would like to see what your swelling looks like.
Everyone's body is different but it is very odd would get enough head enlargement so that your wife won't have sex with you but you are still trying PE when clearly you weren't to small for here if you have now become to uncomfortable for her to want to have sex with.
How much did you try hanging? You should start at 2-3 lbs. Most likely just 2 would be a good place to start. And how long did you try hanging for. I started off with much less time then the 60 minutes I do now.
If you used to much weight and for to long then it completely makes sense.
Please share much more info overall. That way men can learn and better understand your experience. PE needs detail otherwise posts are useless to helping advance the various forms of PE
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youknowme123321;675444 said:
Set up was like yours to the "t". Bell with sealing sheath, water inside. I hung with 6 pounds but I have been working myself up to this. I just didn't start at 6. This is where I am having huge problems- at 6 pounds. It is beating up my penis bad. I am taking a few days off and going back to 2.5 for longer times. Maybe I am not made for heavy hanging. I have had zero issues until I hit 6 pounds so that may be the max for me. I think 2-3 pounds may be enough. If people gain (supposedly) with an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] which exerts a lot less pressure than I should gain with 2-3 pounds over 4 hrs. a day...hopefully
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Max Whitewood;675516 said:
[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] will do the same thing due to time needed to wear it. The problem with hanging and meaty foreskin is "they" say the growth sweet spot is 10-11 lbs. I can't even go to 6 without massive pain and foreskin issues. Nothing works to stop it either.I am also skeptical about guy who say they do 10+ pounds. I know he posted pics but it's not really hanging SD so...... His pics looks like it SO and it's not hanging weight.
deadwood187;675403 said:
Why not just go for a different piece of equipment. There are many good choices in Hanging, Stretching and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Traction[/words]. The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] gives you many options from hanging and chamber work but it also can be used as a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PowerAssist[/words] or a replacement for all hand stretching. Your have the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] and the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] (and the PhalloGenetics with both). I would switch to something that has a better track record.
Max Whitewood;675516 said:
Also hang 1-2 lbs when you can. Start at 15 minutes then build up from there. If you do fine with 15 mins then do another 15 mins after 5 min break. Just build up slowly. Do you plan to use a vacextender, vachanger or something else?
deadwood187;675519 said:
Using a vacuum chamber with an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] will not do the same thing. It may do that same thing if he is as prone to foreskin swelling as you and if he progresses to quickly. Not that you progressed to quickly I am just saying he would be more prone if he did.
WHat are you talking about it's not really hanging straight down? Look at the top corners of the pic. On the right top you will see my right calf. On the left top you will see my left heel. My penis is pointing in the same direction as my feet which is straight down. I do this lying flat in bed but sat up to take the pic.
And what are you talking about it's not hanging weight? I have constant tension of roughly 13 lbs for 60 minutes. Just b/c I am not standing with weight plates hanging between my legs does not mean I am not hanging.
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youknowme123321;675752 said:
I did. I did a total of 1hr. today with 5 pounds (not in one set though) and I was fine. It's crazy what 1 pound does to me. 6 pounds kills me. 5 pounds is fine. However, my girth is getting pretty big, I have seen nothing on length yet. This has been the biggest girth expander of any method I used and I can't really add too much more girth before my wife cuts me off completely.
I have to experiment with short sets next- maybe 15 minutes max. I think time has something to do with it. The cone and bell are a tight fit for me so I suspect lack of blood flow may be the issue.
deadwood187;675757 said:
Glad you don't get all messed up from the 5 lbs. The quick girth gains are strange to me. I don't understand how that could happen using a vachanger bell that is a tight fit or even if it wasn't a tight fit it is still stranger to get quick and noticeable girth gains from extending. I've read men say that before but it doesn't make sense. We are all different though and sometimes things don't make sense
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deadwood187
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youknowme123321;675760 said:
I think, for some strange reason, the vachanger is acting more like a pump than a hanger for me. It may be my anatomy but I am stumped like you wouldn't believe over this. Girth gains aren't even the temp. ones you see when pumping. Even if stay away for a few days , no "deflation" occurs.
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templnite
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You are the anomaly because glans' have never been shown to increase in girth. Can I have before/after pics please:blush:?
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deadwood187
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Well, I did another set today with 5 pounds [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 20[/words] minutes and my foreskin swelled up something fierce. Yesterday I was fine but today back to swelling and fluid buildup in my foreskin. The fluid build up looks like it's hardening so I am done with the Vachanger. Don't think I will go back to it. This thing is brutal on foreskin and it looks like it's stretching my skin way too much.
stillwantmore
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deadwood187;675825 said:
Please show a pic. It's 2015. It is to easy to share pics for men here not to when they are sharing info like this. Damn, if you used a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penis pump[/words] your dick would probably explode.
stillwantmore
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$119-$140 for a hanger with a weight limit of 10lbs for most men before they start having to deal with blister problems...ouch! My hanger is only $49.99 and never caused a blister. You can also adapt over time to more weight, as you are supposed to do in order to keep gaining. Vac hangers are a "cool idea" at best. They are definitely not a long term PE solution. Maybe as a post workout add on to keep you stretched out a lower weights below 10lbs. However, where are the guys with the gains from the vac hangers after all these years? Fewer and farther between than the 'uneducated' guys with the 'outdated' compression hangers.
I can just hear a woman asking...hmmm....what's that blister on your penis baby? STD???? Eww.
I can just hear a woman asking...hmmm....what's that blister on your penis baby? STD???? Eww.
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acromegaly;675900 said:
autoextender