"The Penis is NOT a Muscle"

[Big Al]

Originally from Is the penis a muscle? - Penis Enlargement Gym

Well I know that there are muscles that connect to the penis that you can work and get them stronger but the penis itself does not have muscles in it right?

I am copy and pasting this paragraph off of yahoo answers when I was looking this up.

"The penis is NOT a muscle, it is simply organ tissue, like the tissue of your stomach or liver. The penis will not grow or shrink for excessive use or lack of use because it is not a muscle, the only growth that occurs is from the blood filling the spongy tissue upon erection. Also, since the penis is not a muscle, you can greatly damage the tissue by putting unnecessary pressure on it, such as is the case with the so called "exercises" and such devices as pumps. And once more, just for clarification, the penis is NOT a muscle, it's just organ tissue and skin."


Now I know he is saying that you can't get the penis bigger because it is not a muscle. BUT we can stretch it an get it longer right? Perhaps not thicker but longer?

So question time:
If you stretch it will it get more pencil like and lose it's thickness?
Will the elongated penis be harder to get erections with because it is longer than what you should have?
Can these exercises cause serious damage? (My guess is no because it's just pushing blood through your shaft)

I don't know, perhaps I sound really stupid asking all this but it piqued my curiosity and I decided to come to the place where somebody should be able to shine some insight on this.

Thanks

That article attempts to oversimplify the penis while being erroneous at the same time. "The penis is not a muscle so you can't enlarge it"- this statement has been repeated so often that a lot of people believe it without a second thought. It exposes the ignorance of the author on matters of penile anatomy.

The penis is composed of fascia (like the kind that covers muscles), smooth muscle tissue, blood vessels, nerves and ligaments (also like the kind attached to muscles). Its function requires that it be capable of expanding to many times its original size. Knowing this, expanding it a little beyond its normal erectile maximum each time using Penis Enlargement exercises shouldn't be that difficult a concept to accept.

Here are some articles that explain penile anatomy. Feel free to post them in the Yahoo Answers page you visited:

Penis Enlargement Gym - Penis Anatomy 101

Penis Enlargement Gym - The Penis is a Muscle!

To answer your questions:

Q. If you stretch it will it get more pencil like and lose it's thickness?

A. That shouldn't happen. Since you'll be stretching out the penile tunica (which is responsible for containing the penis itself), you'll actually realize some girth gains while stretching. Note that there are girth specific exercises that you can do as well. The only instance where you'll probably see a decrease in girth from stretching is in cases where the penile function is destroyed (and blood flow inhibited), like what happens to some tribes that hang extremely heavy weights and do all sorts of torturous things to their penises.

Q. Will the elongated penis be harder to get erections with because it is longer than what you should have?

A. Not necessarily, although a larger penis is going to require more bloodflow. That's why it's highly recommended that you do [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] work like kegels, etc. along with your Penis Enlargement exercises.

Q. Can these exercises cause serious damage? (My guess is no because it's just pushing blood through your shaft)

A. You can injure yourself if you perform Penis Enlargement exercises incorrectly. The same case can be made for almost any exercise- Penis Enlargement or not. If you go into Penis Enlargement using moderation and patience, you should be injury free.

 

[DLD]

Nice thread Al!

 

[Big Al]

Nice thread Al!

Thanks!

What's terrible is that you'll find many medical and health sites using that quote in an attempt to convince people that Penis Enlargement doesn't work.

 

[Alpha Effusion]

So she is a muscle!

 

[Alpha Effusion]

The important role of corpora cavernosal smooth muscle in potency has been known since Goldstein et al reported the first examination of erectile tissue. Normal smooth muscle content and function are necessary for the initiation and maintenance of erection. Published reports suggest that the average penis smooth muscle percent is between 40% and 50%. Our unpublished data confirm this rate with the finding of an incidence of smooth muscle of about 49% in normal potent males in the general population. In contrast, patients with veno-occlusive dysfunction show a much lower percent on microscopic examination. A prior study suggested that these patients have a smooth muscle percent of 10% to 36%.

 

[Alpha Effusion]

So my question is, can exercise increase the size of smooth muscles?

 

[Big Al]

So my question is, can exercise increase the size of smooth muscles?

It appears that Penis Enlargement works (in part) at stretching the tunica, which allows the Corpora expand more. It would be interesting to see what happens to the spongy bodies from Penis Enlargement on a cellular level.

 

[DLD]

So my question is, can exercise increase the size of smooth muscles?

This, if possible, would prove to limit the length you can gain more than anything. Getting smooth muscle tissue to expand girthwise would also be nothing to write home about. The penis, not being a muscle, is the best thing going for a longer penis.

 

[seekngirth]

Times like this I wish I was close friends with a Urologist

 

[hsarge]

The penis can expand, if the tunica is expanded. That is the basis of the Italian innovative surgery that takes a vein (smooth muscle tissue)from the thigh, splits it lengthwise, slits the tunica on each side of the penis, and then grafts each vein half into those slits. This creates more smooth muscle tunica tissue for the corpora cavernosa to expand into. The results have caused significant girth gains. So, if you can expand the tunica (in any manner) your create more room for expansion.

 

[seekngirth]

which is why my middle name is "two hand squeeze"

 

[DLD]

Times like this I wish I was close friends with a Urologist

I think we know more on the subject than most Dr.'s combined.

 

[Big Al]

Times like this I wish I was close friends with a Urologist

Just make sure he's open minded

 

[seekngirth]

Well ... they may not know too much about Penis Enlargement, but they have dissected penises I'm sure and have a much more broad understanding as to the working of our genitilia.

I may just make an appointment, if I ever do, I'll be sure to post up the answers to my questions ... I have a curve I've been meaning to fix haha

 

[Big Al]

Well ... they may not know too much about Penis Enlargement, but they have dissected penises I'm sure and have a much more broad understanding as to the working of our genitilia.

I may just make an appointment, if I ever do, I'll be sure to post up the answers to my questions ... I have a curve I've been meaning to fix haha

Dissecting a penis is one thing. Knowing how the penis would react to uncommon stressors like Penis Enlargement is another. Most medical professionals are, as a rule, very conservative about their advice. I recall one popular urologist stating [on the internet] that he din't think penis enlargement techniques worked because "the penis doesn't expand". :s

 

[Alpha Effusion]

This, if possible, would prove to limit the length you can gain more than anything. Getting smooth muscle tissue to expand girthwise would also be nothing to write home about. The penis, not being a muscle, is the best thing going for a longer penis.

Good thing im going for girth

Length doesn't hurt though if you are listening god!

 

[DLD]

he din't think penis enlargement techniques worked because "the penis doesn't expand". :s

Nice, he must have gotten his degree from a crackerjack box. As far as an understanding on the penis through dissecting it, I have seen enough of this through video and pictorials that I feel my understanding is as great as any urologist.

 

[Big Al]

Nice, he must have gotten his degree from a crackerjack box. As far as an understanding on the penis through dissecting it, I have seen enough of this through video and pictorials that I feel my understanding is as great as any urologist.

Here's the article: http://blogs.weBathmated.com/mens-health-office/2008/04/penis-enlargement-myths-and-facts.html

The clip (emphasis mine):

"After spending more than 20 plus years in urology, it is clear that no pill or cream or vacuum contraption will change your penis size. It is not like the penis is elastic and can be enlarged. It is what it is. If you have extra weight, then you can lose a few pounds and your penis will seem bigger. You could opt for disfiguring surgery to cut the ligament that will let your penis fall down, and give you the appearance of maybe 1/2 inch more for a lucky few, but that is about it. And so you know, most men who have penile enlargement surgery regret doing so. It must be something about all the scarring and pain."

I highly encourage you gentlemen to suBathmateit your comments to that site!

 

[DLD]

Here's the article: http://blogs.weBathmated.com/mens-health-office/2008/04/penis-enlargement-myths-and-facts.html

The clip (emphasis mine):

"After spending more than 20 plus years in urology, it is clear that no pill or cream or vacuum contraption will change your penis size. It is not like the penis is elastic and can be enlarged. It is what it is. If you have extra weight, then you can lose a few pounds and your penis will seem bigger. You could opt for disfiguring surgery to cut the ligament that will let your penis fall down, and give you the appearance of maybe 1/2 inch more for a lucky few, but that is about it. And so you know, most men who have penile enlargement surgery regret doing so. It must be something about all the scarring and pain."

I highly encourage you gentlemen to suBathmateit your comments to that site!

He forgot to discredit natural Penis Enlargement

 

[irafreak1]

I like the fact that cutting the ligament works but stretching it is unheard of.

 

[DLD]

I like the fact that cutting the ligament works but stretching it is unheard of.

Cutting the ligaments only allows for the penis to hang longer in flaccid state (about .5"), erection gain is negotiable.

 

[Alpha Effusion]

Cutting the ligaments only allows for the penis to hang longer in flaccid state (about .5"), erection gain is negotiable.

Well, let's negotiate for a 1" NBPenis EnlargementL. Haha just messin'. I know you meant negligible.

 

[DLD]

Well, let's negotiate for a 1" NBPenis EnlargementL. Haha just messin'. I know you meant negligible.

Yes I did. Spell check can sometimes change the meaning of a whole sentence.

 

[Gman2000]

But I believe I learned somewhere, perhaps television that your body cannot build new skeletal muscle (except with like GH and IGF-1, via stem cells), but the body CAN create NEW smooth muscle. I believe some cutting edge university hospitals are actually grafting some organs with just a little bit of smooth muscle from a donor (they shape it around an object).

So if this is the case, I believe it is possible that we can actually create NEW smooth muscle in the penis. I'm not sure if Penis Enlargement does this or just increases the size of the smooth muscle we have? That would be interesting to see a PhD do a research project among Penis Enlargement participants.

Smooth muscle also helps explain why there are fast gainers and slow gainers, since every man has a different percentage of smooth muscle vs. spongy tissue in the penis.

I am not an expert, but I do have a basic understanding of biological sciences. What I wrote in the first paragraph I do believe is fact, the second two paragraphs are food for thought. Here is some more food for thought:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/llewellyn2.htm

I don't wanna copy and past the whole thing, it is significantly long, but in a nutshell it says omega fatty acids can help with protein synthesis in muscle. If that is indeed correct, along with getting adequate protein intake, it would seem that taking omega fatty acids might be a good idea for those of use engaging in Penis Enlargement.

All just food for thought.

 

[Big Al]

He forgot to discredit natural Penis Enlargement

He's cited in another article on that website that does:

http://men.weBathmated.com/guide/penis-enlargement-does-it-work?page=2
(See the first page for the citation)

I understand the need for people in the medical field to be conservative with their claims, and to their credit, there are a lot scams out there...but to lump every Penis Enlargement method together and to spread disinformation is just wrong. What's really startling is that some of these experts in their field seem to have a poor grasp (for lack of a better word ) of the organs they're supposed to be specializing in.

 

[goinfor11x7]

My urologist has yet to examine my penis. He's too busy poking his fingers up my butt to make sure I don't have early prostate cancer--that, because of my age and my enlarged prostate. I mentioned this to my internist. She was aghast. So she checks my penis and scrotum once a year. I don't mind!!

So maybe, just maybe, fast gainers' dicks have more smooth muscle--let's say 60 % or so???

This reminds me of how limited most m.d.'s are in their study of nutrition. Most are required to take a single course in this field--that is my understanding.

 

[DLD]

She was aghast. So she checks my penis and scrotum once a year. I don't mind

Is she blown away by the size

 

[gentlegrow]

so lets review this: if u are over this 50% of smooth muscle part then u are a fast gainer (am i correct?). ok but then there must 2 different types of it. 1 for gaining in girth and 1 for length. In the matters of girth i would guess maybe im a fastgainer. But what is it for length? Im stretching like an idiot and gained not that much here. thats really frustrating but i will never give that up.

greetz

 

[Big Al]

so lets review this: if u are over this 50% of smooth muscle part then u are a fast gainer (am i correct?). ok but then there must 2 different types of it. 1 for gaining in girth and 1 for length. In the matters of girth i would guess maybe im a fastgainer. But what is it for length? Im stretching like an idiot and gained not that much here. thats really frustrating but i will never give that up.

greetz

Length work requires that you target the basal ligaments as well as the [longitudinal] tunica of the penis.

 

[gentlegrow]

Length work requires that you target the basal ligaments as well as the [longitudinal] tunica of the penis.

my ligs are at their max for a long time now (but i also stretch them) and my tunica wont become larger than BPFSL 18cm (about 7inches). measure it every month (only BPFSL) i stretch and stretch and stretch (espacially stretches that give u best length gains like: behind the leg, bundled A stretch, two fulcrum or two fixpoint, bundled normal with a bundle of more than 360 degrees etc..) actually 50mins every training day (3 to 1 rhytHydromax). But the only thing which looks that becomes bigger to me is my normal relaxed flaccid length.
my patience is maybe not the best (ok im really sucking at this ^^) but i wont give up no matter how long it takes. that damn thing has to fucking gain.

greetz

 

[goinfor11x7]

my ligs are at their max for a long time now (but i also stretch them) and my tunica wont become larger than BPFSL 18cm (about 7inches). measure it every month (only BPFSL) i stretch and stretch and stretch (espacially stretches that give u best length gains like: behind the leg, bundled A stretch, two fulcrum or two fixpoint, bundled normal with a bundle of more than 360 degrees etc..) actually 50mins every training day (3 to 1 rhytHydromax). But the only thing which looks that becomes bigger to me is my normal relaxed flaccid length.
my patience is maybe not the best (ok im really sucking at this ^^) but i wont give up no matter how long it takes. that damn thing has to fucking gain.

greetz

I admire your tenacity. How long have you been practicing your present routine? It sounds great to me.

 

[irafreak1]

Your understanding of the md's education is correct Goinfor. Your average Chiropractor probably knows more about nutrition. MD's are trained to lean of pharmacy. Your best bet is still a biochemist. Most nutritionists I've met just regurgitate facts and don't seem to have an understanding of how the body absorbs and works with nutrients. That's kind of a sidenote though...

That smooth muscle theory is interesting. I'm very rusty on my cell phys but the question I have, is how much of our smooth muscle do we damage over time?

 

[gentlegrow]

I admire your tenacity. How long have you been practicing your present routine? It sounds great to me.

i recently switched to that rhytHydromax about a few weeks i think. But the Training itself im doin now for nearly a year with a total deconditioning phase of 2-3 weeks i guess (no gain loss at this time). had a really hardcore phase that lastet 4 weeks at the last summer. a total stretching time of apprx. 2 hours a day (plus the time i jelqed every morning) no pause. I watched a lot of films by this time ^^. But u cant do this forever it is quite an extreme torture for ur penis.

also tried a leg squeezer method from one of our members over night. but thats not good in the matters of becomming enough sleep and even worse because i'm a belly sleeper so i dropped that. But im thinking about to give that another shot ^^.

the mummy wearing (ads wrapping method) i increased since last month up to a minimum of 10 hours a day. before it has been at a max of 6 or so.

greetz

 

[Big Al]

my ligs are at their max for a long time now (but i also stretch them) and my tunica wont become larger than BPFSL 18cm (about 7inches). measure it every month (only BPFSL) i stretch and stretch and stretch (espacially stretches that give u best length gains like: behind the leg, bundled A stretch, two fulcrum or two fixpoint, bundled normal with a bundle of more than 360 degrees etc..) actually 50mins every training day (3 to 1 rhytHydromax). But the only thing which looks that becomes bigger to me is my normal relaxed flaccid length.
my patience is maybe not the best (ok im really sucking at this ^^) but i wont give up no matter how long it takes. that damn thing has to fucking gain.

greetz

Maybe you need to give something else a try- perhaps progressively intense hanging. That may give you enough to stretch your ligs.

 

[gentlegrow]

Maybe you need to give something else a try- perhaps progressively intense hanging. That may give you enough to stretch your ligs.

maybe ur right. guess i should make one. A simple starter hanger for testing if it will work i could buy me a bib or another hanger.

greetz

 

[jfdr6911]

Strange spot for intro but.....Hey I'm new to the site and i have just been reading for hours on this Penis Enlargement stuff. The reason im here is i have an extremely super sexual dominatrix girlfriend and i thought a little size would be fun. She has casually referred to this old fling as Godzilla and she said it was too much and sex hurt but in a way just hearing that made me feel a bit insecure.
She tells me (and we are pretty open) that im the perfect size but then again i dont know if she is saying that to be nice. My size is a little over 7 long and idk how wide but i couldn't do the toilet paper roll test cause it seem to be too snug for comfort. Im looking for maybe just an inch and from there ill see how i feel cause i know there has got to be a point where its too much. Anyway im a sponge for advice im starting off light i was thinking of just following the beginners guide till i knew enough for anything more advanced. Cool site btw i never knew the internet had boards for such personal stuff like Penis Enlargement, i think i need to try to spend more time on the web.
Oh yeah, a little background....My name is John im a drummer/DJ, a fighter jet mechanic/vet of iraq and afgan, going to school for the entertainment industry, and i have a twin turbo dodge stealth and a twin turbo 3000gt (i only mention the cars cause i built them up from junk yards with blood sweat and hard earned money)

 

[DLD]

Strange spot for intro but.....Hey I'm new to the site and i have just been reading for hours on this Penis Enlargement stuff. The reason im here is i have an extremely super sexual dominatrix girlfriend and i thought a little size would be fun. She has casually referred to this old fling as Godzilla and she said it was too much and sex hurt but in a way just hearing that made me feel a bit insecure.
She tells me (and we are pretty open) that im the perfect size but then again i dont know if she is saying that to be nice. My size is a little over 7 long and idk how wide but i couldn't do the toilet paper roll test cause it seem to be too snug for comfort. Im looking for maybe just an inch and from there ill see how i feel cause i know there has got to be a point where its too much. Anyway im a sponge for advice im starting off light i was thinking of just following the beginners guide till i knew enough for anything more advanced. Cool site btw i never knew the internet had boards for such personal stuff like Penis Enlargement, i think i need to try to spend more time on the web.
Oh yeah, a little background....My name is John im a drummer/DJ, a fighter jet mechanic/vet of iraq and afgan, going to school for the entertainment industry, and i have a twin turbo dodge stealth and a twin turbo 3000gt (i only mention the cars cause i built them up from junk yards with blood sweat and hard earned money)

Welcome to the forums! Your life sounds incredible and you seem to have a great sexual disposition. I would be real fucked up over her comment about her X but I am incredibly insecure. Keep that frame of mind and give yourself the size you desire.