RR04;742846 said:
Exactly my thoughts. Frustrated today because I was doing some moderate stretching and could feel it on the right side again. It's just this tightness/discomfort. It's not a sharp pain, almost like a dull pain. I'm not sure what it is, how it happened, or how to make it go away other than to keep applying Hirudoid, oils, and hot/cold dunks with rest. Frustrating to say the least because I know I can gain, I just need to be healthy to do it!

Take it easy. And know also that this healing process you are going through to get back into PE is also valuable info to the Brotherhood.
 
rocky1243;742855 said:
Take it easy. And know also that this healing process you are going through to get back into PE is also valuable info to the Brotherhood.

We are not going anywhere, allow yourself to heal. If you want to get something in to keep your head in the game work on Kegels and stay involved helping Brothers on the forum.
 
Got my leech oil today! This stuff smells so weird haha. Cant wait to start using it and see what it bring to my veins in my dick. Also got some enzymes that I saw posted on here by enzymedica. Can't wait to get those Thursday!
 
RR04;742965 said:
Got my leech oil today! This stuff smells so weird haha. Cant wait to start using it and see what it bring to my veins in my dick. Also got some enzymes that I saw posted on here by enzymedica. Can't wait to get those Thursday!

Leech oil, that is some old school treatment! Let us know how it goes!
 
I will try everything and anything. I'm all about health. Going forward I plan to implement this "chemical" PE full time even when 100% healthy. Leech oil or erasers during the day and hirudoid before sleep. Help me heal after some intense exercises. I am stretching moderately throughout the day and feeling decent. Hoping a week or 2 out from full intensity.
 
RR04;743123 said:
I will try everything and anything. I'm all about health. Going forward I plan to implement this "chemical" PE full time even when 100% healthy. Leech oil or erasers during the day and hirudoid before sleep. Help me heal after some intense exercises. I am stretching moderately throughout the day and feeling decent. Hoping a week or 2 out from full intensity.

Keep us up on how the oil is working for you, very good data to have.
 
RR04;741594 said:
:( thought I was doing better but I had the vein pop back up yesterday. It's a bit swollen and kind of hard. Very strange because after a 5 day break it was almost not noticeable, so I started again with some manual stretches. Monday was fine, but yesterday I noticed it popped back up a bit and had some discomfort on my right side while stretching. I guess it's back to hot/cold dunks and hirudoid cream. These things do heal 100% right??

Is it possibly an ingrown hair? I had one early on and thought it was thrombosis. After i found out what it was i lanced it... Now i have a scar there.
 
RR04;743123 said:
I will try everything and anything. I'm all about health. Going forward I plan to implement this "chemical" PE full time even when 100% healthy. Leech oil or erasers during the day and hirudoid before sleep. Help me heal after some intense exercises. I am stretching moderately throughout the day and feeling decent. Hoping a week or 2 out from full intensity.

RR, just read your thread and you have been killing it. I read about the leech oil and hirudoid cream and was wondering if these are for injuries only or do they serve another purpose. Hope you get your injury taken care so you can get back to your routines
 
Lookn4girth;743241 said:
RR, just read your thread and you have been killing it. I read about the leech oil and hirudoid cream and was wondering if these are for injuries only or do they serve another purpose. Hope you get your injury taken care so you can get back to your routines

Mainly for discoloration but we do not have conclusive evidence of this yet. I am really hoping RR04 can give us some.
 
It's not a problem for clothes. I don't put it on that heavy and rub it in so it's not running or anything like that. As far as hirudoid and leech oil go... I think their purpose can be great to aid you in PE. Read on hirudoid and you will find it helps to dissolve clots, bruises, and aids in healing of collagenious tissue. We have a lot of that in our dicks. So anything that can aid in healing and blood flow is something I'm interested in using. Everyone has different budgets. As far as my injury, I'm positive it's not an ingrown hair. There is no visible affects on the surface. I've read thrombosis can appear red on surface. I really can't figure out if it's thrombosis or a lymph vessel. I do have the "beads" that run along the vein/vessel that some talk about with lymph vessel issues. All I know is it's hard and I have never noticed it before. It's swollen... I'm doing some light stretching but still feel the tightness/discomfort on that right side so I don't know what it is :( good news is during my stretching today I took my BPFSL measurements again and haven't lost anything. Girth gains still there as well. Just need to heal up!
 
i read topical creams only affect the skin, that they don't actually penetrate to reach membranes underneath the skin, so stuff like clots and bruises is a vein or muscle issue which is internal and topical cream may have no power with that

have u tried massaging the area away from its site to disperse the issue?
 
I have not. I do some light massaging on the area itself. Have you looked at hirudoid cream? Studies have actually show for it to improve clot dispersion, thrombosis, hematoma, etc. You can't even get it OTC in the states. You have to buy it on eBay or from one of those foreign pharmacy sites.
 
Doing some more intense stretches... back to my 15 second stretches found in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words]. 1 time of each direction at 15 seconds each for now. Just about full intensity except for the downward direction where I still feel some discomfort on the right side. DLD or anyone have any idea why this is? I would think any injury would result in that discomfort in all directions?
 
RR04;743814 said:
Doing some more intense stretches... back to my 15 second stretches found in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words]. 1 time of each direction at 15 seconds each for now. Just about full intensity except for the downward direction where I still feel some discomfort on the right side. DLD or anyone have any idea why this is? I would think any injury would result in that discomfort in all directions?

It could be one side of the ligament is longer than the other. It may be one of the Spermatic Chords (one on each side) or other internal structures. I would go with the ligament since this is where most men find the issue. To correct you will need to put more intensity into the side that is shorter.
 
Went out and bought a couple of golf gloves, a right and left hand. I think this is my new fave grip method. Provides a little bit of cushion to take some stress off my dick and has good grip.
 
RR04;744202 said:
Went out and bought a couple of golf gloves, a right and left hand. I think this is my new fave grip method. Provides a little bit of cushion to take some stress off my dick and has good grip.

Golf gloves are an excellent way to increase grip and lessen slippage. Latex and rubber gloves will help also. The biggest issue men face with length work is getting a good enough grip to make gains happen. This is why the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] does so well, grip is insane. Two other ways that help with grip are using a few wraps of toilet paper and grip from there, or make a paste from baby powder a bit of water and apply to penis, this helps too.
 
Still at it, I'm really struggling finding the grip that works best for me :( everything just appears to be putting too much stress on the head of my dick.

Golf gloves - great grip, but irritates the hell out of my skin. Almost too good a grip.

Baby powder - good grip, but not insane. Been using this still.

Latex - not as good as golf gloves, but sill leaves irritation.

Toilet paper - too much friction on the skin. Irritates the hell out of me.

Boxer fabric - ok... but still not the greatest.

Another struggle is just the amount of grip strength I need to create the stretch force I want. It definitely stresses the tip of my penis to soreness. I need to figure this out!
 
RR04;746198 said:
Still at it, I'm really struggling finding the grip that works best for me :( everything just appears to be putting too much stress on the head of my dick.

Golf gloves - great grip, but irritates the hell out of my skin. Almost too good a grip.

Baby powder - good grip, but not insane. Been using this still.

Latex - not as good as golf gloves, but sill leaves irritation.

Toilet paper - too much friction on the skin. Irritates the hell out of me.

Boxer fabric - ok... but still not the greatest.

Another struggle is just the amount of grip strength I need to create the stretch force I want. It definitely stresses the tip of my penis to soreness. I need to figure this out!

Have you tried the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] yet? That is the ultimate grip!
 
RR04;746198 said:
Still at it, I'm really struggling finding the grip that works best for me :( everything just appears to be putting too much stress on the head of my dick.

Golf gloves - great grip, but irritates the hell out of my skin. Almost too good a grip.

Baby powder - good grip, but not insane. Been using this still.

Latex - not as good as golf gloves, but sill leaves irritation.

Toilet paper - too much friction on the skin. Irritates the hell out of me.

Boxer fabric - ok... but still not the greatest.

Another struggle is just the amount of grip strength I need to create the stretch force I want. It definitely stresses the tip of my penis to soreness. I need to figure this out!

Have you tried a piece of thin rubber RR? Something like theraband may work for gripping better also
 
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