JakeM82;657982 said:
I had this problem with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] too, caused serious FR for me. What I found is that I ABSOLUTELY HAVE to do tunica stretches before I use it for instead of getting expansion, I just get retention instead. Try adding about 5 minutes of bundle stretches right before your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] session. Also, I only pump to about 80% of max pressure as well. 100% pressure = 100% chance of Fluid Retention for me, I know that's not true for everyone but it seems I am more prone to it.

Brilliant advice! Getting the Tunica pre-stretched will definitely allow for more tissue expansion and much less fluid retention. Bundled Stretched right before Pumping....so smart.
 
JakeM82;657982 said:
I had this problem with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] too, caused serious FR for me. What I found is that I ABSOLUTELY HAVE to do tunica stretches before I use it for instead of getting expansion, I just get retention instead. Try adding about 5 minutes of bundle stretches right before your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] session. Also, I only pump to about 80% of max pressure as well. 100% pressure = 100% chance of Fluid Retention for me, I know that's not true for everyone but it seems I am more prone to it.

will try it this today....thanks
 
pogzee;658117 said:
will try it this today....thanks

Please do, and do it before all you work...it is most likely the most important piece of PE we have come upon in long time.
 
day 14

length same

all day phallogenetics

my glans at the tip started getting reddish so i stopped and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrapped till night

didnt do girth work at all
was kinda depressed all evening and coudnt handle doing PE that time...so i left it

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day 15

skipped
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap all day
need to get me emotions and shit together
 
doublelongdaddy;658248 said:
Please do, and do it before all you work...it is most likely the most important piece of PE we have come upon in long time.

Had anyone experimented with expressive stretches pre-bathmate? I'm probably going to do that one to check if there's any difference between shaft/internal shaft FR.
 
templnite;658338 said:
Had anyone experimented with expressive stretches pre-bathmate? I'm probably going to do that one to check if there's any difference between shaft/internal shaft FR.

I am writing on these too in the new PE study I am working on. It was originally only inclusive of Bundled Stretching but I have decided to include all stretching and girth work in my newest study. It is taking longer than I thought because I want to include everything.
 
doublelongdaddy;658497 said:
I am writing on these too in the new PE study I am working on. It was originally only inclusive of Bundled Stretching but I have decided to include all stretching and girth work in my newest study. It is taking longer than I thought because I want to include everything.

Can't wait to read it brother!
 
doublelongdaddy;658497 said:
I am writing on these too in the new PE study I am working on. It was originally only inclusive of Bundled Stretching but I have decided to include all stretching and girth work in my newest study. It is taking longer than I thought because I want to include everything.

Noble Prize in PE :cool:
 
day 16

length asusual

didnt use much devices today as the tip of my glans has become purplish red from PF...so was using [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap mainly all day.....although must have used [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for like 2 hours in total

girth work

3-4 mins- i did bundled stretches 2 times on each side , did a couple of jelqs
5 min- [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words]
20 min- jelqs and ss
5 min- [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words]
3-4 min-jelq

i realzied there was less fluid retention compared to other times but not very less........fluid is not going at all....i think this is effecting my gains

got the bend fixing pump today...lol but no vacuum inside ....it goes as soon as i stop pumping....dont know whats wrong with ti ???

5 min- [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words]
 
shortdick;658517 said:
Noble Prize in PE :cool:

It will be some of my best work, aside of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]. When I drop this jewel men will be training a bit different than today.
 
day 17 .....a very good day ;)

length was asusual
no devices......only [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap...to fix tip of glans....

girth work-----amazing

in the middle of the day i did the air pump for like 30 mins with 15 min sets......
it felt good and was amazing

evening

10 min-air pump
10 min -jelq and ss
10 min- air pump
10 min-jelq and ss

i still WASENT tired.....i wanted to do more but thought should take it easy and leave some for next day

didnt use [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] ....thought id try this out and alternate between the air and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] pump everyday...but i was amazed that there was like only 10 % fluid build up....COOOLL !!

again c ring
then [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap till night....
 
That's strange, but awesome too that you lost the FR.
Does it say how much hg" that little pump has? I know from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] vs. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penomet[/words] video you can barely see the guage, but I would say the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] scores more than 10 hg".
 
templnite;658775 said:
That's strange, but awesome too that you lost the FR.
Does it say how much hg" that little pump has? I know from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] vs. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penomet[/words] video you can barely see the guage, but I would say the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] scores more than 10 hg".

i dont know about the "hg".......it has a thing to create vacuum thats all...so u keep pressing like a gun and more vacuum is created....lol
probably mastermind knows about this one....will ask him..
 
day 18

length same

didnt do anything for girth and SPECIALLY DIDNT DO ANYTHING FOR BEND ( cant fucking believe it after all i went thorugh for it )........got lazy and didnt feel like it at all.....thought id give it rest cuz i went all out yesterday...plus it was sunday and sunday is supposed to be chilled out fun day.:)......didnt have fun either....lol

if i give up again i will break my pump......so theres no chance i will back out now....
 
pogzee;659018 said:
skipped today too fuck fuck fuuuuuuuuuuucl

C'mon bro, you can do this. Stay positive, get back up and get back into the routine.
 
pogzee;659018 said:
skipped today too fuck fuck fuuuuuuuuuuucl

If you don't have time for PE or you just feel super lazy , throw in some quick stretching or / and some jelqing...consisteny > intensity..no point in having a strong routine if you skip sessions.

That's what i call the " 10 min routine " ...i use it when i don't have time for PE,or i just feel lazy , or i'm out in the town...

-5 min stretches

-5 min jelqing
 
I don't usually skip a training, so whenever I do take days they really help expansion later. If you are very persistent with your training then a two off days ain't so bad.
 
ChilDsh;659043 said:
If you don't have time for PE or you just feel super lazy , throw in some quick stretching or / and some jelqing...consisteny > intensity..no point in having a strong routine if you skip sessions.

That's what i call the " 10 min routine " ...i use it when i don't have time for PE,or i just feel lazy , or i'm out in the town...

-5 min stretches

-5 min jelqing

Great advice. The thing everyone needs to understand is with each day off it becomes harder to get back on the horse. On the days you do not have time get in a minimum of training just to keep up with your routine. Even if it is only 5 minutes it still keeps your head in the game. I have seen too many take too much time off only to never return.
 
took fucking six months off once cause i was depressed i still don't remember why i restarted,its been a while since then...
 
DLD very true !!1 if i skip a day then either i gt lazy or my mind autimatically makes excuses of not doing it inspite of me being busy i still somewhere know that i can squeeze in so workout but get lazy

and chilldish very good idea......atleast something is going on and i am in touch with my penis :)
 
shortdick;659155 said:
took fucking six months off once cause i was depressed i still don't remember why i restarted,its been a while since then...

I did the same thing 2 years ago. If it were not for Simian and a few other guys posting I don't think we would have survived. Depression is a killer but now, with the Hospital allowing me to work when I am there, I never need to miss another day of work. Today I have serious family issues but I still get a bit of posting in just to stay on point.
 
day 20

didnt do length work but [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap all day

girth

5 min - bundle and jelq
10 min - air pump
10 min- jelq
10 min- air pump
5 min-jelq
 
day 21

legnth same
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap all day

girth

5 min - bundle
10 min - air pump
10 min - jelq
10 min- air pump
10 min jelq
5 min- air pump

waiting for tip of glans to revocer so i can begin my length work....the PF fucked it up for me ..AGAIN
 
pogzee;659364 said:
day 21

legnth same
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap all day

girth

5 min - bundle
10 min - air pump
10 min - jelq
10 min- air pump
10 min jelq
5 min- air pump

waiting for tip of glans to revocer so i can begin my length work....the PF fucked it up for me ..AGAIN

Way to keep training bro! Good sessions too.
 
day 22

length same
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap all day

girth

5 min- bundle
10 min-air pump
10 min-jelq
10 min- air pump
10 min- jelq

went max on air pump jfor expansion or rather more than that,,,,lol started noticing a lot of fluid retention but it was due to the extra intensity today
i can see my glans healing
 
JakeM82;659388 said:
Way to keep training bro! Good sessions too.

and really thank you for the bundles stretches as i never had included them in my routine ever.....but now i have....and amazing idea of bundles in [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sg[/words] !!!
 
pogzee;659500 said:
and really thank you for the bundles stretches as i never had included them in my routine ever.....but now i have....and amazing idea of bundles in [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sg[/words] !!!

They make their big debut in the new PE Study
 
no Pe for the past few days.....been really depressed and not finding any motivation to get back up and get on with it...kinda sick with PE also...

did length today.....
i hope i make it though in the evening with girth aswell
 
pogzee;659981 said:
no Pe for the past few days.....been really depressed and not finding any motivation to get back up and get on with it...kinda sick with PE also...

did length today.....
i hope i make it though in the evening with girth aswell

Get inspired my Brother! The more you lag on the PE the worse you are going to feel.
 
pogzee;659981 said:
no Pe for the past few days.....been really depressed and not finding any motivation to get back up and get on with it...kinda sick with PE also...

did length today.....
i hope i make it though in the evening with girth aswell

I think i understand what are you feeling,but get your hands to work.be disciplined n you will see great changes,i used to have really depressive times n didnt PE for six months i tried to continue but i took breaks n even now i do have one or two days off...But stop Overthinking the situation n start using your hands n your mind.Keep on going whit your routine.

I think you understand exercises really well you have asked about how good your routine is n was approved,am i wrong? n if you think your routine is not going to give you the gains you want,start whit something new.ask the experts. And dont let the time pass you by or you will get lots of regrets believe me....I cant tell you from my own experience you are younger than most bros here n if i had kept going whit a consistent routine.I wouldnt be where im at now....Good Luck invest time n have fun!!
 
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You've got this bro, we're all behind you and believing in you. You can make those gains and get the results your want.
 
shortdick;660107 said:
I think i understand what are you feeling,but get your hands to work.be disciplined n you will see great changes,i used to have really depressive times n didnt PE for six months i tried to continue but i took breaks n even now i do have one or two days off...But stop Overthinking the situation n start using your hands n your mind.Keep on going whit your routine.

I think you understand exercises really well you have asked about how good your routine is n was approved,am i wrong? n if you think your routine is not going to give you the gains you want,start whit something new.ask the experts. And dont let the time pass you by or you will get lots of regrets believe me....I cant tell you from my own experience you are younger than most bros here n if i had kept going whit a consistent routine.I wouldnt be where im at now....Good Luck invest time n have fun!!

That got me back on track :)

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JakeM82;660122 said:
You've got this bro, we're all behind you and believing in you. You can make those gains and get the results your want.

Thanks bro. And likewise
Btw I just saw that u have achieved your length goal ......very inspiring :)

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Day 24-25.
Skip
 
Day 26 ---- back on track

Length same
Did one hour [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and then [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap

Girth

5 min- bundle stretches
10 min- air pump
10 min - JELQS/ SS
10 mins air pump
10 mins - JELQS
 
JakeM82;660122 said:
You've got this bro, we're all behind you and believing in you. You can make those gains and get the results your want.

I agree! Just keep you mind in a positive place, negative thinking can really damper a routine. Get inspired that you have the tools and knowhow to make gains happen, this is something you never thought possible before you found out about PE. Now that you know you should be inspired more than ever. We believe in you!
 
templnite;660092 said:
When I exit the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] there's very good expansion mainly at the base, but I jelq all that to the middle part. All that's happening with you is you're filling-out the thinner areas; distributing the girth. This needs to happen bro, you're just gonna change as you grow.

And the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SlowSquashJelq[/words] is awesome for evening out thicker or thinner areas to become more uniform.
 
JakeM82;660393 said:
How are things going bro? Your routine going good?

thanks for your faith and concern jake......but i am so broken from the inside that i cant focus on anyhthing....my parents passed away when i was a child...my grandparents took me in.....i feel i am such a bad son i am not being able to help them.........i am not being able to help myself thats why...the person i put my faith in she turned her back on me in these bad times i have ....i called her her mother as i looked at her as one...she turned her back on me.....i dont have anyone to talk to or share my heart out with........i am only breaking into pieces on the inside...
 
pogzee;660404 said:
thanks for your faith and concern jake......but i am so broken from the inside that i cant focus on anyhthing....my parents passed away when i was a child...my grandparents took me in.....i feel i am such a bad son i am not being able to help them.........i am not being able to help myself thats why...the person i put my faith in she turned her back on me in these bad times i have ....i called her her mother as i looked at her as one...she turned her back on me.....i dont have anyone to talk to or share my heart out with........i am only breaking into pieces on the inside...

You have the brotherhood here man. So just remember that, this isn't just some forum, but brothers on here are serious about helping and looking out for each other.

Consistent activity and self-improvement are great healing activities, so getting in a routine that improves something about you that you want to work on is one of the best things you can do to help yourself actually feel better. The most important thing right now is not outside approval of who you are, but self approval of who you are and who you want to be. Set some goals for where you want to go right now, even if that goal is just feeling better about your everyday routine that's a great place to start.

Feel free to reach out to me in PM bro and we can chat.
 
JakeM82;660417 said:
You have the brotherhood here man. So just remember that, this isn't just some forum, but brothers on here are serious about helping and looking out for each other.

Exactly! We got you pogzee, if you need a Dad, you can use me:)
 
Just checking in bro, seeing how your routine is going. How's life going? My prayers are with ya bro.
 
4 days with no pogzee? I am getting worried too.
 
doublelongdaddy;660975 said:
4 days with no pogzee? I am getting worried too.

JakeM82;660848 said:
Just checking in bro, seeing how your routine is going. How's life going? My prayers are with ya bro.

trying to get back guys....my internal energy is finished but somehow i tried doing PE yesterday....

day idk

length same

girth
5 min- bundle
10 min- pump
10 min- jelq
10 min- pump
10 min - jelq
 
pogzee;659981 said:
no Pe for the past few days.....been really depressed and not finding any motivation to get back up and get on with it...kinda sick with PE also...

did length today.....
i hope i make it though in the evening with girth aswell

I know the feeling..i feel like i need a girlfriend to motivate me...
 
day idk

length
same

girth
same as yesterday

i have been masturbating right after my girth session....is that ok ?
 
pogzee;661028 said:
day idk

length
same

girth
same as yesterday

i have been masturbating right after my girth session....is that ok ?

I think most of the people agree that as long as it's not before girth sessions, you are okay.
 
pogzee;660404 said:
thanks for your faith and concern jake......but i am so broken from the inside that i cant focus on anyhthing....my parents passed away when i was a child...my grandparents took me in.....i feel i am such a bad son i am not being able to help them.........i am not being able to help myself thats why...the person i put my faith in she turned her back on me in these bad times i have ....i called her her mother as i looked at her as one...she turned her back on me.....i dont have anyone to talk to or share my heart out with........i am only breaking into pieces on the inside...

for me to tell you that i know how you feel would be a lie.

but i do understand the feeling of losing people you love. or be betrayed.

i will like to tell you some stuff to maek you rethink your situation.

this shouldn't be used as a shoulder to cry on (sorry im not the best at that) it should however be used as a means of getting back on your feet.

in my own culture we havew this saying: "only when your dad dies. can you truly become a man"
it's not anything bad about ones dad. but the truth is that aslong as he is there. you will always have his support to some extinct.

by not having a dad. you get 100% freedom. you get to choose absolutely how you want to turn out to be.

is this good or bad? well depends on how you use it.


now a normal thing here would do would be to ask you what your parents wanted you to become?

however im not a fan of guilt tripping people so excuse me. don't think like that and if people use that on you know that it is manipulation 1.01

however.... what would you want to do?

if i could give you the tool to make you the man you wanted to be. explorer. astronaut.
deepsea diver. pornstar. surgeon.

what would you do?

start writing these things down. and then start doing them.

i mean you are depressed and feel alone.

what can you possibly lose from this point forward?

i mean if it goes bad. then what you can always go back to being depressed.

but what if you have a nice experience.

then perhaps... you are going in another direction than now?


as much as this sounds easy. i would lie to you if i told you it is.

it's a long road. and it requires alot of work. but to tell you the truth. it's not the goal but the actual travel that is amazing.

you can find just about anything in life you want.

if i where you i would start to study some of the things around "happiness" try and make your own project on what Happiness actually is. and how you archive it.

if you want bragging rights put it up on this forum to help other people aswell.

read different philosofies about it etc.

basicly the only thing you shouldn't do would be to fall back into self pity as that will get you absolutely no where.

and hey. you got the brotherhood here aswell.

chin up buddy. im not saying that this is easy. what i am saying is that you can do it!
 
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