Pictures (before and after 5 1/2 months of working out)

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Im2mackin

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Hey everybody, i dont know if anyone remembers me here but i used to be on these boards a while back.
I am 6'2" 19 years old
Anyways I was 214lbs back in Oct 2005 and that day was the day i decided to start working out again, prob because of distaste with my body. I have been takin a little creatine but that was only for 1 1/2 months and dont attribute my gains in weight from that but mostly from "proper" diet. I make sure to have 2500 calories a day in my diet with a majority of it in protein. In my most recent pictures(march 23) i weight 238 lbs and i have went up in everything, including fat, not a good thing. During this period of (working out i could of gotten alot leaner than i am right now but i have been lazy and only went to the gym 4 days a week and during the college weekend(thurs fri sat sun night) i have been drinking and not really following the "proper" diet. I will take pics again before summer starts and hopefully i will be the right size by then. Im looking to get to 225 but have muscle and be lean. Well see huh.

Btw do you think i have bitch tits? I was fat ever since i was small and just dramatically lost some weight recently so i dunno. Lets see if i can make them shrink or disappear soon.

I used to do some Penis Enlargement but never got really into it. My stats now are 7BPenis EnlargementL by 5.2EG In the march pics i did some Penis Enlargement before so its discolored and also swollen.
 
Good results there man. You definitely can tell that you bulked up. I should dig up some pics of me taken only six weeks after bulking...I literally gained about 20 pounds. Bulk up first, then cut down, that's the best way to go. I would say you are on the right track. When you seem like you aren't gaining any more size, that's the perfect time to diet down and step up your workouts. Keep us posted.
 
Thanks Goldmember, i think i bulked up enough and now im gunna cut down. Please if you wouldnt mind finding those pics....id love to see them.

I am going on a cycle on clenbuterol tomorrow to help with the fat loss. I will eat like a 2000 calorie diet and cycle it on and off two weeks at a time. I hope to be cut or at least more cut by june. I will post new pics in june. Thanks for reading.
 
Great biceps if you ask. I'm not sure you want me to discuss your diet, but I heard you should not base the diet on a protein intake, rather on a balanced carb fat and protein diet. Even if you wan to bulk up?
 
Hey ggogeta, thanks i appreciate the comment on teh biceps. Everybody tells me i have big biceps. Thats my prize possesion i guess.

Balanced carb, protein, and fat diet sounds interesting. What do you suggest if i may ask?
 
Im2mackin said:
Hey ggogeta, thanks i appreciate the comment on teh biceps. Everybody tells me i have big biceps. Thats my prize possesion i guess.

Balanced carb, protein, and fat diet sounds interesting. What do you suggest if i may ask?
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Aie, gotta ask IM2MANLY, goldmember, sikdogg or someone else, I'm not that much into those diet things as I'm the type of guy that is skinny as a mofo, even though I eat more junk than my 3 younger brothers combined.

But I'm pretty sure one should not get into "all protein" diet. It's dangerous not to have enough carbs and fat, and the body could react in some undesirable ways. Fat storage maybe... it's something like 30-30-40 but I could not tell what nutriment goes into what proportion :P
 
The fastest way of cutting without losing much muscle is a Cyclical Ketogenic Diet (CKD). You can do a search on it to learn more... It is a low carb diet similar to Atkins but you cycle in 1-2 days of high carbs to replenish glycogen stores which helps to keep muscle loss to a minimum. It's not the easiest diet to follow but it does work real well...

From your pics... it looks like you have gynecomastia (bitch-tits). Here's some info on it... http://www.gynecomastia.org/content/general/gynart.shtml
 
Thanks sikdogg for your opinion on my bitch-tits. I appreciate it. I dont think i have them as there is no hard tissue but hey i guess the easy way to know is to lose weight and cut up and see if they go away. Thanks for the diet info and ur insight. Goodnight!
 
Bitch-tits is the formation of fatty tissue around the nipple similar to that of women. It's not necessarily hard tissue... once it has fully set in, it will feel soft like how women's breasts feel. You don't really have that much bodyfat but your nipples point out, which makes me think you have gyno... i can see that you carry some fat around the side of your chest close to the armpit which means that what you have may be what's called seudo-gyno. If that is the case, then getting your bodyfat down should solve your problem.
 
sikdogg said:
The fastest way of cutting without losing much muscle is a Cyclical Ketogenic Diet (CKD). You can do a search on it to learn more... It is a low carb diet similar to Atkins but you cycle in 1-2 days of high carbs to replenish glycogen stores which helps to keep muscle loss to a minimum. It's not the easiest diet to follow but it does work real well...

From your pics... it looks like you have gynecomastia (bitch-tits). Here's some info on it... http://www.gynecomastia.org/content/general/gynart.shtml
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That's what I meant... low carb or fat diet might encourage muscle loss rofl... but might also encourage fat storage hehe.

Keep us updated man.
 
ggogeta said:
That's what I meant... low carb or fat diet might encourage muscle loss rofl... but might also encourage fat storage hehe.
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Cutting diets are generally not good for building muscle, but if well planned you should lose very little muscle while dropping serious bodyfat. You really have to decide which is most important to you, keeping all your muscle AND FAT or losing a little muscle to lose most of your fat.

Low carb diets force your body to use fat (as ketones) for energy, how will this encourage fat storage?? If you eat often so you body is well nourished and don't eat too much surplus calories, there won't be much to store as fat.
 
sikdogg said:
Low carb diets force your body to use fat (as ketones) for energy, how will this encourage fat storage?? If you eat often so you body is well nourished and don't eat too much surplus calories, there won't be much to store as fat.
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Sure, but the minute you start eating more fat I'd guess the body isnt used to it anymore and you get more fat storage. It's like the people who follow a strict diet... and their stomac shrinks a bit because it does not need to be big anymore. They lose fat rapidly, but then they can't take it anymore and start eating again, and then, because the body isn't made for such a big ammount of food could make that into fat. That's called the "yo-yo" effect right. (people gaining more than they lost)

I thought it was the same for low fat / carb diet. once you start to eat those again in greater qty, it has a bigger effect on you. But that was just an assumption from me.
 
The yo-yo effect comes from people with no self-control or ones that just don't know any better. These people only know two ways to eat... either they starve themselves or the gorge themselves. They don't stop and think for a moment...when you're on calorie restriction, you can't just start eating like you did before. You have to slowly add calories back into your diet. Think about it... if you go back to eating the way you did to get fat, what do you think the result will be?? Losing weight and keeping it off is a lifestyle change... and it's forever.
 
That all makes sense I just thought you could store more fat from a bag of chip after lest's say some months ( say, years) of stricter diet, than before. Because the body isnt used to it anymore.

I dunno it that's clear.

Anyways I think a good normal ratio of all carbs/fat/protein + exercice will lead you eventually to a normal weight. If you want faster results, substract some 100-200 calories ( and be intelligent on the choice of what you eat) and that's it. it's a no-brainer.

what's hard might be to CHANGE your habbits.
 
Stay away from CLEN, man! People have had serious heart problems (partially irreversible) from that shit. Stick to a fat burner like SAN Tight! or Biotest Hot Rox. I mean this whole-heartedly.

I know a member on this forum who had a near heart attack from ONE PILL. Don't take that risk.

Also, your gyno is pretty mild. The best way to get rid of gyno is taking an aromatase inhibitor, such as arimidex. An estrogen receptor blocker might also be effective (don't take both at the same time though--dangerous and will hurt gains).

As far as the protein intake, high protein diets burn fat--period. But the kidneys will take a huge beating if you continue to consume a diet based entirely off meat or whatever. The gluconeogenesis diet worked great for me. It was based off of 40% protein, 40% carbs, and 20% fat. I bet it would have worked better if I decreased the carbs to 30% and increased the fat to 30%. Keep the calories at or below maintenance, and watch the fat fly off!
 
goldmember said:
As far as the protein intake, high protein diets burn fat--period. But the kidneys will take a huge beating if you continue to consume a diet based entirely off meat or whatever. The gluconeogenesis diet worked great for me. It was based off of 40% protein, 40% carbs, and 20% fat. I bet it would have worked better if I decreased the carbs to 30% and increased the fat to 30%. Keep the calories at or below maintenance, and watch the fat fly off!
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This is the proportions I was talking about :D Sorry for being a smart ass :s
 
im2macklin

At 19 you are still very young with some "puppy fat".
You look just fine and have a heavier build (like a Rugby Player).
Bigger is better.
Who looks good when they are skinny ....
 
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