If something angers you, it controls you.

If something frustrates you, it controls you

If an event(s) begin to affect your life negatively enough, take action...if not, sitting-around like a bunch of clucking hens bitching about it does no good.
 
Tubby youre lucky it controls me because if I was indifferent (mortal sin) like you then nothing controls me from pullin out this Draco nigguh!
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I'm lucky for many reasons and try not to tempt fate, but your point is well-taken...indifference is equally as harmful. BTW, is that Soulja performing fellatio on that 'dracu'?
We're obviously from diametrically opposed realities, but I believe in provoking thought and it seems you do as-well
 
Wrong again tubs is one dichotomous reality which I control. The difference between black and wack , sprrrra draco nigga
 
But I'm letting you know dawg this how the story goes I put the milk in the Oreo
 
huge-girth;721612 said:
For the past 7 days now, I've not watched any adult entertainment video which means I masturbated couple of days back without watching adult entertainment. But it is important to know that I wasn't feeling very horny when I masturbated and this is as a result of addiction. Sexual thoughts will come but if taken too far might lead to masturbation but this can happen due to loneliness.

Yeah if you're not horny you know you're just doing it to gain the sensation even if you dont feel like it. It happens to me when its that time of month to release.

doublelongdaddy;721544 said:
31 days today! I broke a month and I feel so happy. There was occasion yesterday to fall into the same situation I did last time I made a month but I was able to recognize it this time and stop it before it became anything more than innocent. I am learning so much about myself and I am also learning that with my continued efforts I can begin to see women in the light they deserve, not as objects. Today I will not even look at a girl in fear of falling but I am starting to see this is not the smartest way. I think what I should focus on is talking with women, as I do my Brothers, and seeing the value they have as humans, not objects. I miss relationships with women, not in a sexual sense, but in a platonic way. I am sure these graces will come upon me, it took me 40 years to get to the place I was, I can not expect it to take 30 days to get over. But I am determined and resolved to do the very best I can to not offend my Jesus and to build friendships with all of God's people, not just men.

Knew you could do it :) Anyone can achieve just gotta believe.
 
doublelongdaddy;721544 said:
31 days today! I broke a month and I feel so happy. There was occasion yesterday to fall into the same situation I did last time I made a month but I was able to recognize it this time and stop it before it became anything more than innocent. I am learning so much about myself and I am also learning that with my continued efforts I can begin to see women in the light they deserve, not as objects. Today I will not even look at a girl in fear of falling but I am starting to see this is not the smartest way. I think what I should focus on is talking with women, as I do my Brothers, and seeing the value they have as humans, not objects. I miss relationships with women, not in a sexual sense, but in a platonic way. I am sure these graces will come upon me, it took me 40 years to get to the place I was, I can not expect it to take 30 days to get over. But I am determined and resolved to do the very best I can to not offend my Jesus and to build friendships with all of God's people, not just men.

I achieved 30 days of no masturbation twice in 2016 which means I abstained from masturbating for 60 days. Now I'm assuming since you have been able to hold on to yourself for 30days, you should have more control now than before. But here is one thing, if you continue holding back on masturbation, you will eventually get attracted to women. Talking to them is the first step.

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kyomoto;721651 said:
Yeah if you're not horny you know you're just doing it to gain the sensation even if you dont feel like it. It happens to me when its that time of month to release.



Knew you could do it :) Anyone can achieve just gotta believe.

IMO, masturbating even when you are not horny is a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sign[/words] of addiction. I've been suffering for too long.
 
LONGERDICK7+;721703 said:
Kepping my hands away from the D is ok,2 days only 2 days and i just cant help it need to knock one off no matter what..lol

It's not easy I tell you
 
Two nights now I have battled with sexual demons the who night through. Awake constantly, thoughts becoming toxic, the 'anger' of the psyche when it is deprived of it's demands! It amazes me how these attack come upon me only when sleeping or falling into sleep. God forbid I be a drunk, I would surely fall constantly! So upon my last falling (more than a month ago) I spoke of a pattern of sorts. A series of small steps from innocence to full out hard core adult entertainment to jerking off for hours! Last night I recognized the pattern in it's infancy! I was able to see where some very innocent steps brought me deeper and deeper into the knowledge of the pattern and the ability to stop it dead in it's tracks! I can say with great pride, I did no fall, I did not succumb under pressure, as tormenting the temptations were I only became stronger in my determination to take that demon out with ak47! I went from praying, to taking my medication, to putting on the files, to picking up my phone, to a tv application, to Youtube bloopers, to seeing news reporters with sexy clothes, to...interference....STOP! The interference was the spam of the videos, they were in no way sexy, they were adds and such. The STOP came when I thought to myself, I wonder if GOD made that happen? I prayed a bit and fell asleep. The remainder of the night was waking up every hour with one dreaming temp to the next. I never became upset once. I just sat up and said to myself, 'well if this is God's will so be it mine! And I used every wake up as an opportunity to practice this acceptance and give the rest to God. It seems to me that when I suffer for what ever reason, if I can give it up to God and find joy in the suffering I become stronger because of it. I think this is a virtue that will be applicable in so many other areas in life where I am presented with a challenge, a failure, a disappointment, a bad nights sleep:) I think if I would have only seen the suffering I would not have made it through the temptation itself. I hope that makes sense to someone :)
 
yep demons take no breaks lol they want to screw people up everyday..lol

some people can explain and understand things the way you do, some dont..:P
 
I made it 11 days, and I fell off. Then felt bad for caving. Then I gave myself credit for going 11 days, which is probably the longest stretch I have ever had. So a new streak has started, and it has been 3 days. Masturbating had become a daily routine...to the point where you do it because it's what you've always done. Until I realized it had become a crutch for not facing my fears of a real relationship with a woman. A realization that I don't date, or even try.
 
doublelongdaddy;721735 said:
Two nights now I have battled with sexual demons the who night through. Awake constantly, thoughts becoming toxic, the 'anger' of the psyche when it is deprived of it's demands! It amazes me how these attack come upon me only when sleeping or falling into sleep. God forbid I be a drunk, I would surely fall constantly! So upon my last falling (more than a month ago) I spoke of a pattern of sorts. A series of small steps from innocence to full out hard core adult entertainment to jerking off for hours! Last night I recognized the pattern in it's infancy! I was able to see where some very innocent steps brought me deeper and deeper into the knowledge of the pattern and the ability to stop it dead in it's tracks! I can say with great pride, I did no fall, I did not succumb under pressure, as tormenting the temptations were I only became stronger in my determination to take that demon out with ak47! I went from praying, to taking my medication, to putting on the files, to picking up my phone, to a tv application, to Youtube bloopers, to seeing news reporters with sexy clothes, to...interference....STOP! The interference was the spam of the videos, they were in no way sexy, they were adds and such. The STOP came when I thought to myself, I wonder if GOD made that happen? I prayed a bit and fell asleep. The remainder of the night was waking up every hour with one dreaming temp to the next. I never became upset once. I just sat up and said to myself, 'well if this is God's will so be it mine! And I used every wake up as an opportunity to practice this acceptance and give the rest to God. It seems to me that when I suffer for what ever reason, if I can give it up to God and find joy in the suffering I become stronger because of it. I think this is a virtue that will be applicable in so many other areas in life where I am presented with a challenge, a failure, a disappointment, a bad nights sleep:) I think if I would have only seen the suffering I would not have made it through the temptation itself. I hope that makes sense to someone :)

This makes sense and I can relate to the torments you went through that night. I really wish I can hold off masturbation for a long period of time. I will be getting myself a girlfriend at least by June. The urge to masturbate is too bad and sex with a partner is one sure way to combat it. I fell yesterday, I masturbated 3 times.
 
tbone77;721763 said:
I made it 11 days, and I fell off. Then felt bad for caving. Then I gave myself credit for going 11 days, which is probably the longest stretch I have ever had. So a new streak has started, and it has been 3 days. Masturbating had become a daily routine...to the point where you do it because it's what you've always done. Until I realized it had become a crutch for not facing my fears of a real relationship with a woman. A realization that I don't date, or even try.

It is never the fall that keeps us down, it is the guilt and guilt comes from an unproductive place. After making 11 days and falling is a huge victory but success remains in how quickly you get up and turn the guilt to conviction.
 
LONGERDICK7+;721759 said:
yep demons take no breaks lol they want to screw people up everyday..lol

some people can explain and understand things the way you do, some dont..:P

No they do not and when they see opportunity they invade. I am very strong and when I am aware I can deal with many attacks in every way. It is when I do not have my faculties that I am attacked. PUSSY ASS DEMONS, they are cowards! Last night another night or attack but I gave every bit of torment to God and I simply prayed and went back o sleep.



huge-girth;721787 said:
This makes sense and I can relate to the torments you went through that night. I really wish I can hold off masturbation for a long period of time. I will be getting myself a girlfriend at least by June. The urge to masturbate is too bad and sex with a partner is one sure way to combat it. I fell yesterday, I masturbated 3 times.


When we do fall the one thing that is worst than guilt is a continuous spiral down the drain, this surely makes the fall harder to rise from. It is that 'fuck it, I fucked up already, might as well go all out' attitude that eats away our resolve and puts you back in the control of it more than you having the control. This is nothing that should be dwelled on too long, but it does warrant a longer reflection on how you will deal with it next time and how quickly you can rebound.
 
LONGERDICK7+;721759 said:
yep demons take no breaks lol they want to screw people up everyday..lol

some people can explain and understand things the way you do, some dont..:P

They're always watching waiting for opportunities to take action. Best way is to get them away is to not believe in them or acknowledge they are there but make them weak by telling them to fuck off.
 
doublelongdaddy;721810 said:
It is never the fall that keeps us down, it is the guilt and guilt comes from an unproductive place. After making 11 days and falling is a huge victory but success remains in how quickly you get up and turn the guilt to conviction.

In this post I have seen one of my weakness after a fall. Whenever I exceed 4 days abstaining from masturbation and when I eventually masturbate, I tend to masturbate twice on that day and resume masturbating the next day. After abstaining from masturbation for some time and when we eventually fall, we shouldn't use that fall to masturbate more than one time, just one ejaculation and that's all.
 
I'm still wondering how is one doing proper girth workout without masturbation (and adult entertainment)?

Okay, one could take a ton of Viagra but other than that...?
 
Am I the only one here that objects to the notion of 'falling'? May as well just say 'fail'...same thing, same connotations. These are extremely negative phrases which will impact your psyche and send you even further down this 'imagined' spiral to Hell or equivalent. I'm going to rehash what Mike mentioned several weeks ago regarding privilege:

Alcohol, masturbation, drugs, adult entertainment, eating, etc. are all privileges and as such, can be experienced and enjoyed as a normal part of life. Once any activity begins to negatively impact your life or, God forbid, any one else's life, then you no longer get that privilege. I've always said that it's not the drug/alcohol/adult entertainment/etc. that bothers me, it's the behavior. I think the question should be asked, 'is _____ having a negative impact?' If so, eliminate or modify. I'd tread very lightly when you're trying to battle Mother Nature...she always prevails, so when it comes to males, procreation is our primary objective and if we don't have an 'outlet' we tend to get backed-up. Nature has an emergency release mechanism, (nocturnal emissions), but masturbating works as well, (if not better). Trying to fight against what nature has intended is only going to create frustration when you lose...maybe it's time to look at this from a different perspective. Instead of thinking this is something you have to 'control', think of it as something that you can 'manage'...seemingly synonymous, but your brain perceives the two very differently. Eliminating the 'fall/fail' conundrum will set your mind free from the negativity that surrounds addictive behavior and maybe give you a fighting chance to 'manage'
 
Munto;721887 said:
I'm still wondering how is one doing proper girth workout without masturbation (and adult entertainment)?

Okay, one could take a ton of Viagra but other than that...?

I'm not training at the moment but I've been thinking about this question you asked. Without adult entertainment, you can use viagra to get an erection. But I don't know about the adult entertainment part cause I never tried.
 
Big Schwanz Acht;721906 said:
Am I the only one here that objects to the notion of 'falling'? May as well just say 'fail'...same thing, same connotations. These are extremely negative phrases which will impact your psyche and send you even further down this 'imagined' spiral to Hell or equivalent. I'm going to rehash what Mike mentioned several weeks ago regarding privilege:

Alcohol, masturbation, drugs, adult entertainment, eating, etc. are all privileges and as such, can be experienced and enjoyed as a normal part of life. Once any activity begins to negatively impact your life or, God forbid, any one else's life, then you no longer get that privilege. I've always said that it's not the drug/alcohol/adult entertainment/etc. that bothers me, it's the behavior. I think the question should be asked, 'is _____ having a negative impact?' If so, eliminate or modify. I'd tread very lightly when you're trying to battle Mother Nature...she always prevails, so when it comes to males, procreation is our primary objective and if we don't have an 'outlet' we tend to get backed-up. Nature has an emergency release mechanism, (nocturnal ), but masturbating works as well, (if not better). Trying to fight against what nature has intended is only going to create frustration when you lose...maybe it's time to look at this from a different perspective. Instead of thinking this is something you have to 'control', think of it as something that you can 'manage'...seemingly synonymous, but your brain perceives the two very differently. Eliminating the 'fall/fail' conundrum will set your mind free from the negativity that surrounds addictive behavior and maybe give you a fighting chance to 'manage'

I get your point in this quote. For me, I'm not trying to stop masturbating most especially when I don't have a girlfriend at the moment. But I think one should be able to hold off masturbation for some time at least a week or two for those without a girlfriend and still doing PE. But then remember I'm not doing PE at this time therefore, its a different story entirely. It will be difficult for those doing PE to abstain from masturbation when they don't have a girlfriend.
 
huge-girth;721930 said:
I get your point in this quote. For me, I'm not trying to stop masturbating most especially when I don't have a girlfriend at the moment. But I think one should be able to hold off masturbation for some time at least a week or two for those without a girlfriend and still doing PE. But then remember I'm not doing PE at this time therefore, its a different story entirely. It will be difficult for those doing PE to abstain from masturbation when they don't have a girlfriend.

this is the situation I'm in. Still training.
 
tbone77;721953 said:
this is the situation I'm in. Still training.

Try to hold masturbation off for at least 2 weeks. if you can master this pattern, you will improve.
 
Big Schwanz Acht;721906 said:
Am I the only one here that objects to the notion of 'falling'? May as well just say 'fail'...same thing, same connotations. These are extremely negative phrases which will impact your psyche and send you even further down this 'imagined' spiral to Hell or equivalent. I'm going to rehash what Mike mentioned several weeks ago regarding privilege:

Alcohol, masturbation, drugs, adult entertainment, eating, etc. are all privileges and as such, can be experienced and enjoyed as a normal part of life. Once any activity begins to negatively impact your life or, God forbid, any one else's life, then you no longer get that privilege. I've always said that it's not the drug/alcohol/adult entertainment/etc. that bothers me, it's the behavior. I think the question should be asked, 'is _____ having a negative impact?' If so, eliminate or modify. I'd tread very lightly when you're trying to battle Mother Nature...she always prevails, so when it comes to males, procreation is our primary objective and if we don't have an 'outlet' we tend to get backed-up. Nature has an emergency release mechanism, (nocturnal emissions), but masturbating works as well, (if not better). Trying to fight against what nature has intended is only going to create frustration when you lose...maybe it's time to look at this from a different perspective. Instead of thinking this is something you have to 'control', think of it as something that you can 'manage'...seemingly synonymous, but your brain perceives the two very differently. Eliminating the 'fall/fail' conundrum will set your mind free from the negativity that surrounds addictive behavior and maybe give you a fighting chance to 'manage'

I have been using fall in different sense here as in a more positive light but maybe saying 'an opportunity to get up' would be a positive light to see it in but still I wanted Brotherly-help attached to this process. As I stated in the quote a fall/fail were equivalent in the language I was using which pertained to failure. I have been using the work fall differently here in the light of it not being a failure but a chance to ask for a hand up. My language could have been better and the mix up would not be so different. I attune much of what I say to my spiritual beliefs and when I am referring to the falls I am attaching them to the falls of Christ in carrying His cross. In this sense I am trying to instill that if Christ fell and got up over and over until He accomplished His mission, so can we. I hope that clears this up and I will be more conscious of my language as I move forward.
 
Last night was much better than the 4 nights before. The wake ups only happened twice last night so I feel much more energetic. This, for me, is a massive spiritual victory knowing that I did not cave to to torment as was so desired! I feel stronger each day and now that a month has come and gone I really am starting to truly becoming detached from it completely, not meaning the urges will leave me, but I now have such discipline that it would take a pretty big episode to shake me. I am not claiming a victory of totality here, but one of daily (even sometimes momentarily) small victories that strung together makes my victory become greater and greater. If I were to fall I would not waste a minute getting back up and moving forward but I also find this hard to imagine at the level I am now.

Someone asked about girth work and how to get an erection there are many methods (outside of adult entertainment) that this can be accomplished. It should be understood that when you are not viewing adult entertainment you body starts to bring erections at nearly the touch. Viagra could be used but if total abstinence is the goal, there will be no issues with getting an erection, believe me! And orgasms are well taken care of nocturnally.
 
doublelongdaddy;721997 said:
Last night was much better than the 4 nights before. The wake ups only happened twice last night so I feel much more energetic. This, for me, is a massive spiritual victory knowing that I did not cave to to torment as was so desired! I feel stronger each day and now that a month has come and gone I really am starting to truly becoming detached from it completely, not meaning the urges will leave me, but I now have such discipline that it would take a pretty big episode to shake me. I am not claiming a victory of totality here, but one of daily (even sometimes momentarily) small victories that strung together makes my victory become greater and greater. If I were to fall I would not waste a minute getting back up and moving forward but I also find this hard to imagine at the level I am now.

Someone asked about girth work and how to get an erection there are many methods (outside of adult entertainment) that this can be accomplished. It should be understood that when you are not viewing adult entertainment you body starts to bring erections at nearly the touch. Viagra could be used but if total abstinence is the goal, there will be no issues with getting an erection, believe me! And orgasms are well taken care of nocturnally.

Less energy used for masturbation means more energy towards other things :)
 
I masturbated yesterday after holding it for 2 days. But the good thing is that for the very first time, I was able to masturbate only once after holding off for two days. Before now, I will masturbate up to 2 to 3 times whenever I fail to abstain. I must admit that hours after masturbating, I had urge to masturbate again and I was having erections too but I managed to tame it. I didn't feel any guilt.

Now I've come to the conclusion that if you masturbate daily, you will feel guilty but if done once in a while, no problem at all. But replacing masturbation with a girlfriend remains a top priority.
 
tbone77;721975 said:
the masturbation or aid in gains? Or both?

After orgasm the penis becomes much easier to stretch, so if you have just had sex with your wife there is no better time to stretch than after orgasm. The reason for this is because the penis is in a state of fatigue and will be less resistant to the stretch. But, if you are masturbating obsessively is will destroy your erection quality and make girth work a nightmare.

huge-girth;722047 said:
I don't understand what you actually mean

I got it :)

kyomoto;722039 said:
Less energy used for masturbation means more energy towards other things :)

Indeed, my mind has so many other things it has been exploring since I have stopped. I also feel so happy not to be hurting my sweet Jesus any longer with pornographic filth!

huge-girth;722049 said:
I masturbated yesterday after holding it for 2 days. But the good thing is that for the very first time, I was able to masturbate only once after holding off for two days. Before now, I will masturbate up to 2 to 3 times whenever I fail to abstain. I must admit that hours after masturbating, I had urge to masturbate again and I was having erections too but I managed to tame it. I didn't feel any guilt.

Now I've come to the conclusion that if you masturbate daily, you will feel guilty but if done once in a while, no problem at all. But replacing masturbation with a girlfriend remains a top priority.

I respect your determination and I completely understand your victory here, and we need to see every little step in the right direction as a victory. So even in this fall you have made your self better in a few ways. First, you tamed the urge to give into the guilt and spend the rest of your day in masturbation. You have also attained an attitude that masturbation does not need to master you! I agree in every way that any man who can not control his mastubatorial and pornogrphic habits should get a wife :)
 
Got through the night with not one demon attacking me! :) I went to sleep in peace and woke in peace. Today I will be focusing on silence, refection and humility in hopes to bring me more strength in this mighty journey. What I would love to get across to my Brothers mostly is stick in there, after 30 days it becomes a walk in the park. It is getting through those first 4 weeks. Remember and take this to heart as a very real thing; It takes the mind 28-30 days to change a habit. Soon after this sets in you will feel a new peace and grace of discipline. What I hope and pray for so much in my Brothers is strength, fortitude and discipline.
 
doublelongdaddy;722072 said:
Got through the night with not one demon attacking me! :) I went to sleep in peace and woke in peace. Today I will be focusing on silence, refection and humility in hopes to bring me more strength in this mighty journey. What I would love to get across to my Brothers mostly is stick in there, after 30 days it becomes a walk in the park. It is getting through those first 4 weeks. Remember and take this to heart as a very real thing; It takes the mind 28-30 days to change a habit. Soon after this sets in you will feel a new peace and grace of discipline. What I hope and pray for so much in my Brothers is strength, fortitude and discipline.

Still trying to stay off for a period of 28 to 30 days as this is the cleansing period. I will keep pushing and keep updating my progress on this thread.
 
huge-girth;722134 said:
Still trying to stay off for a period of 28 to 30 days as this is the cleansing period. I will keep pushing and keep updating my progress on this thread.

A month is usually around the time you get wet dreams, BUT over time wet dreams occur at a further time from my experience. So at first I had a wet dream after a month of no masturbation but right now I'm up to 1 month and 13 days until a wet dream, I think masturbating once in the span of 1 month is good and can postpone wet dreams.
 
kyomoto;722159 said:
A month is usually around the time you get wet dreams, BUT over time wet dreams occur at a further time from my experience. So at first I had a wet dream after a month of no masturbation but right now I'm up to 1 month and 13 days until a wet dream, I think masturbating once in the span of 1 month is good and can postpone wet dreams.

There has to be a release or we would burst! :) I am now I believe 38 days in and as time goes by temptation grows but at the same time the ability to get beyond these temptations becomes stronger. Today was particularly difficult as it was a nice day, like 65 degrees, and my town was having a huge protest and there were so many women everywhere, wearing the most sexy clothes, it took all I had to remain strong and not allow lust to run over into masturbation. There were most likely 2000 people. I prayed very hard and asked God to help me with these temptations. About 10 minutes went by and I was sitting in the café with mu back to the protest. All of a sudden the sun came out so bright that I noticed behind my back. When I went to turn to look at the sky the protest was over and it was like a sunny ghost town. Oh how good is Jesus when I need Him so much! Sometimes all I can do is pray, the spirt is willing but the flesh remains weak.

When I go through this I not only talk to God but also my Son, who is my spiritual advisor and then I bring it to my Brothers. This has been my greatest defense against the evil that surrounds me at times. I love that I have the support of so great a God, so great a Son and so great a Brotherhood! I would not have ever got this far otherwise. My Brothers, I thank you with every part of my Love for you!

Stay Strong! I pray for the Brotherhood everyday!
 
kyomoto;722159 said:
A month is usually around the time you get wet dreams, BUT over time wet dreams occur at a further time from my experience. So at first I had a wet dream after a month of no masturbation but right now I'm up to 1 month and 13 days until a wet dream, I think masturbating once in the span of 1 month is good and can postpone wet dreams.

We will have to keep experimenting to know what is best.
 
Big Schwanz Acht;716621 said:
Why do you think you need to either stop or slow-down? Is your life negatively impacted by it? Any friends or loved ones harmed because of it? Is it inhibiting you from doing/getting the things you want? Those would be some of the questions I'd ask before walking down the road of shame/guilt.

Sometimes self-acceptance is the hardest part

true but no i dont think people around me gets negatively impacted by it at all.haha I have to knock one off every other day n who wouldnt if they had no companionship lol
 
LONGERDICK7+;722243 said:
true but no i dont think people around me gets negatively impacted by it at all.haha I have to knock one off every other day n who wouldnt if they had no companionship lol

But knocking one off every other day will kill your urge to ask a woman out. That's where the real problem is.
 
huge-girth;722280 said:
But knocking one off every other day will kill your urge to ask a woman out. That's where the real problem is.

yep that could be a problem,but even when we knock one off, we still have some extra ammo if need to counterattack the enemy lines LOL
 
Well, I gotta say that last night was a tough night. The day was not bad at all, really I do not believe I lusted once but the occasional glance. The evening was good too, I had a pleasant night so there was no issues there. After I took my medication to sleep and got ready the battle began. I did look at a virtual girlfriend app that was in my cloud, pretty much G rated but I thought maybe that played a part. Not sure what it was but it felt as though the battle was going on outside of myself. I kept waking up and it seemed like it was one lustful thought destroyed by a righteous one but I played no part in it, almost as if I were an observer. This went on the whole night and I woke every hour to this torment. I really think the devil is pissed off at me and the success I have enjoyed so far. I refuse to cave and I will do whatever I need to do to become disciplined in this. If it means torment like this for a while, I can carry the cross. I know that destroying a habit takes time and a positive replacement needs to be implemented. I also know that old habits have many hidden demons, some so small I barely notice them, but non the less, they are there. There is never going to be an escape from the temptations, I am a man and I have carnal needs but there is always the grace of prayer. When temptation comes I immediately pray and I think this will lead me to the grace strength and disapline I so dearly desire!
 
So I made it to almost 40 days and messed up last night. I have made a moral inventory of how and why this happened and I think I have found another place of fault where adult entertainment and masturbation become difficult to resist. First let me say that I am embarrassed and disappointed this happened but I will not allow one second of guilt to stop me from starting again. It again happened when I was in a state of delirium, I was very tired and the temptation was constant. I did not worry too much because I knew there was a filter on my computer but something reminded me that my phone had no filter. I realized I could send my phone video to my TV and I found a weak spot in my firewall! Today I am putting K9 on my phone so there is no device in my house that I can view adult entertainment.

I see the past 39 days a victory, of course I wish I could have avoided it but I did make it to 39 days and that is cause to be happy. Now, as I have pointed out a few times, adult entertainment and masturbation do not just happen, we are driven to them for many reasons and looking back and seeing the steps that took me from innocence to the fall are vital in every fall, these are the weapons that will help us in the next similar situation. For me it started the night before last. I have been dying my hair most of my life. I went grey after a heroin overdose when I was young and dyed it since. I decided that I no longer wanted to be so attached to this vanity but I did not realize how difficult it would be. I cut my hair and shaved and allowed the grey to start coming in and I became sad. I felt embarrassed and scared that I looked so much older. Even when I saw my Son He seemed to think so in a way as he said some things that made me think this and that broke my heart. The sadness followed me through the day and when I got home, during prayers, I just broke down and started to cry. I thought about my Father before He died and I thought I look old like He did, and this made my heart hurt even more. By the time I was going to bed I felt so badly about myself that I used adult entertainment and masturbation, not for pleasure, oh no! Not at all! I did this to punish myself! The revelation came after I spoke with my Son.

"In times of guilt and self-loathing, the fantasy world of adult entertainment offers false redemption. If we are feeling guilty, pornography says, “You’re okay just the way you are. Nothing about you needs to change.” If we are mired in self-hatred, adult entertainment is our way of punishing ourselves. “This is the shameful life I deserve,” we say to ourselves. adult entertainment is a way to indulge our dark world of self-pity."

So now we can add to the list of things that could bring you too a fall. I hope my situation helps others and does not go to waste.
 
doublelongdaddy;722409 said:
So I made it to almost 40 days and messed up last night. I have made a moral inventory of how and why this happened and I think I have found another place of fault where adult entertainment and masturbation become difficult to resist. First let me say that I am embarrassed and disappointed this happened but I will not allow one second of guilt to stop me from starting again. It again happened when I was in a state of delirium, I was very tired and the temptation was constant. I did not worry too much because I knew there was a filter on my computer but something reminded me that my phone had no filter. I realized I could send my phone video to my TV and I found a weak spot in my firewall! Today I am putting K9 on my phone so there is no device in my house that I can view adult entertainment.

I see the past 39 days a victory, of course I wish I could have avoided it but I did make it to 39 days and that is cause to be happy. Now, as I have pointed out a few times, adult entertainment and masturbation do not just happen, we are driven to them for many reasons and looking back and seeing the steps that took me from innocence to the fall are vital in every fall, these are the weapons that will help us in the next similar situation. For me it started the night before last. I have been dying my hair most of my life. I went grey after a heroin overdose when I was young and dyed it since. I decided that I no longer wanted to be so attached to this vanity but I did not realize how difficult it would be. I cut my hair and shaved and allowed the grey to start coming in and I became sad. I felt embarrassed and scared that I looked so much older. Even when I saw my Son He seemed to think so in a way as he said some things that made me think this and that broke my heart. The sadness followed me through the day and when I got home, during prayers, I just broke down and started to cry. I thought about my Father before He died and I thought I look old like He did, and this made my heart hurt even more. By the time I was going to bed I felt so badly about myself that I used adult entertainment and masturbation, not for pleasure, oh no! Not at all! I did this to punish myself! The revelation came after I spoke with my Son.

"In times of guilt and self-loathing, the fantasy world of adult entertainment offers false redemption. If we are feeling guilty, pornography says, “You’re okay just the way you are. Nothing about you needs to change.” If we are mired in self-hatred, adult entertainment is our way of punishing ourselves. “This is the shameful life I deserve,” we say to ourselves. adult entertainment is a way to indulge our dark world of self-pity."

So now we can add to the list of things that could bring you too a fall. I hope my situation helps others and does not go to waste.

At least you were about to abstain for more than a month. One thing I've noticed is that there is that urge to masturbate whenever I'm depressed. its not really a sexual urge but it's like a way to let off your anger and frustration. I've been going through this a whole lot. You shouldn't feel any guilt at this time, you tried. Now get back on the train that's what matters.
 
doublelongdaddy;716552 said:
I will be the first to post my timeline of success. It has been 2 days since I have watched adult entertainment and masturbated. I felt extremely ashamed after and the guilt was so great I ran to the first friend I saw and admitted my fall. The shame was so great that I started to search out ways to refrain from this continuous win/lose situation. My way to stop this is very simple and, in my case, extremely effective. Again, I base everything I do in the Lords eyes so if you are not a believer that is fine but my methods may still help. This is NOT a religious thread, this is a thread to help Brothers become disciplined and accountable to the Family and seek help in the times of failure.

Hey DLD, dont put yourself down so much Brother. If you are trying to stop masturbation and pornography it takes time. Pornography is a very real issue that men struggle with. and there is no need to feel shame. i honestly still stuggle with it. However, now I use adult entertainment as PE motivation. I would suggest maybe looking at adult entertainment maybe once-twice a week on set days and not the other ones and slowly taper down. As for masturbation, nothing wrong with that either. I feel the same way after I masturbate, I feel like a total shithead. But I change the ways I think now. I useually only masturbate once a week now if that even. To me clamping and working on my girth and edging are more important, so I remember that when I have a ring on and I use that motivation to not masturbate. Find some sort of motivation that may keep you from doing those things. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY DONT BEAT YOURSELF UP ABOUT ANY OF THESE THINGS IF YOU DO THEM.
 
BigPapa8;722523 said:
HBUT MOST IMPORTANTLY DONT BEAT YOURSELF UP ABOUT ANY OF THESE THINGS IF YOU DO THEM.

This is the most important point indeed. I realized many things throughout the day and night and many things when I prayed. It is amazing that since I have taken on this challenge it has increased my ability to recollect and reflect on myself and the challenges of the day. First I wanted to go right to feeling guilty which would keep me away from Jesus and allow the devil to continue to accuse me, wasting valuable time and keeping myself away from Him, whom I love the most. As I looked more at the reason why this happened instead of the guilt of the fall I was able to see my course of action and find the weak links in that chain, allowing me to make the proper changes. (GOD! I love having the Brotherhood to go to when I need help!) The K9 filter, the timing of medication, what I allow myself to view before bed, when too eat, etc. all were reflected upon and implemented in the best way I could think of. Recognizing that H.A.L.T. are applicable and should maybe even be expanded upon. When we battle something there is a ways a reason for the battle but there should also be a preparation of weapons to have when the battles begin. H.A.L.T. stands for being Hungry, Angry, Lonely or Tired, all very prominent reasons for us to have a slip. But I think we can add sub categories to these to expand their definitions.

Hungry, Overeating, Purging, Fasting, etc.

Angry, frustrated, disappointed, discouraged, etc.

Lonely, depressed, obsessive, etc.

Tired, hyper, manic, overstimulated etc.

I also think other categories can be added like

Under the Influence: high, drunk, medicated etc.

Sudden Changes: Moving schools, homes, relationships, etc.

Mental Problems: Seasonal Affective Disorder, Suicidal, etc.

I think you get the point. It is not always that we are horny and sexually out of control that these things happen. Sometimes it stems from many different places to bring various outcomes. Unfortunately, the outcome, feeling wise is guilt and guilt is our biggest enemy in staring over.

I was also thinking of the parallel's between this being the third time I fell and the Passion of Christ. This is the 3rd time I have fell in this challenge and I came out of this feeling very naked due to shaving my hair and beard and deciding to finally go with what I naturally have which is now grey and white. When I thought that after Jesus fell a 3rd time He was then stripped of His clothes and after this He was crucified, this gave me much hope. I thought to myself, 'Yes! this is my 3rd and final fall. I am now stripped naked of all my attachments and now my 'habit' will be crucified! This made me so happy because it allowed my to tie it to my own fall.

Anyway, last night, although fear and a bit of temptation I times everything perfectly that I fell asleep while occupied with a completely different thought pattern. Instead of looking at my phone or playing on the computer after I took my medication I put on the X-Filed from Netflix and before an episode was over I was fast asleep. I think I may start to read before I sleep, this may be even better. I really believe many gifts, blessings, graces, abilities, or whatever you want to call them will come out of accomplishing mastery of the flesh in this way!

2 days now :)
 
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