Intro from a Former Lurker (and some ROP results)

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markimus919

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I've been lurking on this site for about a year now.
I have my heroes on here such as Supra and DLD.

My background:
German-Irish-Spanish mutt
6' tall
59" chest
36" Waist
32% Body fat (working on that)
NBPL Flacid: 4.25"
NBPL Erect: 7.5
Flacid Girth: 5"
Erect Girth: 7"
Uncut.
Ball length 1.7"
Ball Width 1"

I've always been proud of my dick. I'm gay and having a huge cock is a real asset in the gay world. Since the guys have one of their own they know what big is and isn't.

I have always wanted to have a really huge fucking dick. When I was growing up I lived across the street from a family of marines. The oldest son was HUNG TO THE MAX. He is 8 years older than me. He taught me how to jerk off and pretty much everything I knew sexually. He was a sex god. He had sex several times a day from the age of 14 on and was a multiple orgasm master. He was HUGE. He'd get drunk all the time and whip his dick out. Flacid it was about 8" and hard it was a little over 11" and as thick as pringles can. Being the little guy that I was I didn't know that his dick was HUGE. i just thought I was small. So... my obession with having a huge dick began.

I have toyed with jelqing off and on and I haven't seen a lot of gains. I've been pumping for the last 3 months and I can now get up to 8.25x8" when really pumped. (I'm in the market for a new pump since mine cracked, if anyone has a suggestion).

I was being tested for a sleeping disorder and found out I HAD a low test level. Around 500 ngl. My doctor suggested some medications but I try to do everything naturally.

Since Supra is my hero I decided to make a ring of power. I followed the instructions and made a ring of power. I use it with saline in a high concentration. I've been wearing two ROP's for the last 3 months pretty much 100% of the time. I only take them off to replace the saline (I do this 1x a day) and clean them. My balls have swollen to almost twice their normal size. I have grown a mustache for the first time in my life. i have CHEST HAIR. I was smooth as a baby's ass before. My dick is harder thicker and wow... I shoot. I jerk off about 2x a day now.
I used to never shoot but now I shoot a good foot thanks to you guys Kegel suggestions, the ROP, and my L-Arginine combo regiment.

Today I had my test level checked. My doctor has accused me of using ROIDS! My test level was 1625 ngl. He was actually really concerned. I don't care. I'm not taking off the ROP! (what's a little premature baldness when you have balls tha sway in the fucking breeze!)

Now... I've read the discussions about how to "complete the circuit" well here ya go kiddies. It's called Conductive Gel. You normally use it for a TENS unit, like the chiropractor uses for pain management. I apply this to my sack and base. I'm totally shaved btw. It really does help with the conductive ability.

This is the best price I've found:
http://www.vitalityweb.com/backstore/electrode-gel.htm

So... now I'm going to start jelqing. If you guys weren't lying about the ROP then you probably aren't lying about that!

I've attached a picture of my cock. It isn't huge like you guys but it'll be there soon!
 
Wow. I'm as impressed as Supra is. Tell me, how many shots did you average per cum pre-ROP and Arginine, and how many do you average now? Also, what is your daily dosage of Arginine? Thanks and great work.
markimus919 said:
Since Supra is my hero I decided to make a ring of power. I followed the instructions and made a ring of power. I use it with saline in a high concentration. I've been wearing two ROP's for the last 3 months pretty much 100% of the time. I only take them off to replace the saline (I do this 1x a day) and clean them. My balls have swollen to almost twice their normal size. I have grown a mustache for the first time in my life. i have CHEST HAIR. I was smooth as a baby's ass before. My dick is harder thicker and wow... I shoot. I jerk off about 2x a day now.
I used to never shoot but now I shoot a good foot thanks to you guys Kegel suggestions, the ROP, and my L-Arginine combo regiment.
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Hey all.

You know, not long ago there was a big thing in the FR forum comparing the situation
between Kong threatening to ban members and Supra deleting post of anyone who had anything negative to say about the ROP. Then either right after or right before Supra left, there was a HUGE thread about how Jakb(I think) and AC both thought how the ROP was BS and how lots of peole had little or no results at all etc...
(note- I am not going to go through and find all these all threads, but I hope all the
negative ROP threads are still here somewhere.)

Anyway, now here Supra is back and now we have some guy to claim he has been lurking here a year and is only NOW reporting results from the ROP to coincide with the return of Supra.

There were alot of guys, me included, that tried the ROP. I made one myself with very little investment and wore it for awhile and whatever results I did have went away just as quick.

To be fair to Kong, and Supra, I am NOT trying to start a bunch of crap with Supra. Nor am I alluding to Supra coming back and wanting to start all the ROP hooplah all over again. I am trying to raise awareness to all of those who WEREN'T here then to really read up on this if this or other ROP threads catch your eye.

By the way, while typing this I searched for the original thread I was refering to here:
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11219

Pay specific attention to Jakb's and AC"s post in that thread.

Kooky


BTW, AGAIN I want to say this was NOT meant to bash Supra. He just got home and we should welcome him back here as he has done alot to further the community here and Penis Enlargement in general. I would rather nip something in the bud before we get the whole "ROP Cult movement" rolling again.

kook

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Sorry, another thread to check out...
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11689
 
Baraka said:
Wow. I'm as impressed as Supra is. Tell me, how many shots did you average per cum pre-ROP and Arginine, and how many do you average now? Also, what is your daily dosage of Arginine? Thanks and great work.
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Before the rope I would dribble one shot out. After 1 month with the ROP the shot was an actual shot going about 5 inches. After 3 months with the ROP, without edging or holding off from jerking for days, I can get about 2 shots, each one shoots about 8 inches.

I know that one of my major problems with shooting far is muscle control. I had sex with a Cazzo adult entertainment star a few weeks ago and he shot at least 10 feet the first tiem and the rope had to be at least a foot long. He shot several more blasts from 3-5 feet. (I'm not making this shit up... Cazzo stars are known for their massive cum shots, oh and they are German gay adult entertainment if you have no idea what I'm talking about) I was amazed. I pinned him down and made him tell me what the "secret" was. I know there is a lot of discussion about what the secret of the adult entertainment stars is. Well... he said it's all about a) edging b) kegels c) hard hard reverse kegels and d) most importantly, timing your ejaculation with a rytHydromaxic thrust/scrunch of your kegels.

He says that there is one particular muscle group taht squeezes the vas defrens to make the cum shoot out. I guess I have to believe him.

As far as my L-Arg levels, i'm doing 800mg in the morning, 800 mg at night and before actual sex I usually try to go another dose of all my stuff 2 hours beforehand. Here is the deal... how to find out how much you need...

Start with the recommended dosage for at least 2 weeks. Track your progress. After two weeks, increase your dosage by a measure, if you improve, increase again until you stop improving. If you don't improve, drop back down and stop wasting money. Supplements are slower ot act than most drugs. You need a blood serum level for potenency. However when your serum level gets as high as it will get, you just piss the rest away.

Hope that helps.
 
well, believe me I'm as skeptical as anyone can be. And yes, I am a real person. I don't know supra, DLD, or Kong.

My webpage is real... take a look
http://www.hippierage.org

I think that like everything in life, different strokes for different folks. Also there is always the chance that what caused the Test increase has nothing to do with the ROP. It is likely that an increase in test production would cause some increase in the size of my nuts, the amount of cum I produce, and the strength of my erections.

I started all the supplements at the same time, so there is also the chance that they are the cause. But... what I have now is working so I'm not going to change a damn thing!

:-)

I'm not trying to start any fights... I just felt moved to post after I blew a huge load. *shrug*
 
Mark,

I want to make it very clear that I'm not accusing you or Supra of anything.
I just wanted to add a dose of reality to this before the whole "ROP Cult"
started rolling again. Go back and read some of those post. Use the search thread
to find more than just the ones I posted. If you have lurked here for that long, surely
you have come across those threads I am reffering to since your interest in the ROP.

There were some hard feeling for awhile I think and alot of people were very put off by anyone trying to sell the "next best thing" on here.

And to be fair, I would do/have been just as fair o quick to point things out in the FR forum that I believe to be over hyped or out of focus.

kook
 
Well, I don't care much about the rop debate but I definitely know that a continuous kegel program mixed w/a daily dose of L-arginine at 1000mgs makes me go crazy in the blowing an orgasm department.

What are talking about here? go get a mop!


Penis Enlargement kicks ass...thanks go to DLD and Bib...length is coming from Bib's instructions, girth and cumshots are from DLD's instructions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I agree 100% ocd. I believe that a strong program of L-arg and
kegels whould be just as much a benefit or better than anything the ROP could offer.

I think somewhere on here DLD has preached a return to the basics. I believe in that
now more than ever. No need to reinvent the wheel. The basics outlined here will do
95% of men a world of good in just [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis health[/words] alone not to mention the added bonus of size(eventually).

kook
 
Amazing stuff! This is some of the most insightful commentary I've ever read on the subject. I've never heard of Cazzo adult entertainment before now, so thanks for explaining. I'm straight, but I've read stuff online about how some gay adult entertainment stars can put Peter North to shame- and he started out in gay adult entertainment, as we all know. You gays really have a leg up on the rest of us in the ejaculation department. I'd love to hear more, if you have any more to volunteer, that is. I can shoot a max of 5 or 6 feet right now, but it would be so awesome if I could increase that. I can only imagine how strong my orgasms would be if I could shoot 10 feet. I'd probably collapse from the sheer force of them. :):):)

BTW, my Arginine dosage has been 1500 mg a day for the past several months. It definitely boosts hardness, no question about it. I also recommend taking lecithin for bigger loads. I don't want to comment on the ROP yet, since I just got one and I've only been using it for a week so far.

Again, thanks so much for sharing!!!

markimus919 said:
Before the rope I would dribble one shot out. After 1 month with the ROP the shot was an actual shot going about 5 inches. After 3 months with the ROP, without edging or holding off from jerking for days, I can get about 2 shots, each one shoots about 8 inches.

I know that one of my major problems with shooting far is muscle control. I had sex with a Cazzo adult entertainment star a few weeks ago and he shot at least 10 feet the first tiem and the rope had to be at least a foot long. He shot several more blasts from 3-5 feet. (I'm not making this shit up... Cazzo stars are known for their massive cum shots, oh and they are German gay adult entertainment if you have no idea what I'm talking about) I was amazed. I pinned him down and made him tell me what the "secret" was. I know there is a lot of discussion about what the secret of the adult entertainment stars is. Well... he said it's all about a) edging b) kegels c) hard hard reverse kegels and d) most importantly, timing your ejaculation with a rytHydromaxic thrust/scrunch of your kegels.

He says that there is one particular muscle group taht squeezes the vas defrens to make the cum shoot out. I guess I have to believe him.

As far as my L-Arg levels, i'm doing 800mg in the morning, 800 mg at night and before actual sex I usually try to go another dose of all my stuff 2 hours beforehand. Here is the deal... how to find out how much you need...

Start with the recommended dosage for at least 2 weeks. Track your progress. After two weeks, increase your dosage by a measure, if you improve, increase again until you stop improving. If you don't improve, drop back down and stop wasting money. Supplements are slower ot act than most drugs. You need a blood serum level for potenency. However when your serum level gets as high as it will get, you just piss the rest away.

Hope that helps.
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59" chest and 7" dick girth. I want to know where I can by the same tape measure as you have. You supposedly have a bigger chest than all professional body builders, and unless you are in the Guinness book of records for the largest thumbs in the world, that dick is nowhere near 7" EG, even though it's clamped in the picture.
 
Hey Marki how come you shrunk??? Crap back in May you posted in FR that your bad boy had a midshaft girth of 8.22" or did I misunderstand?.
 
AlbertaBeef said:
Hey Marki how come you shrunk??? Crap back in May you posted in FR that your bad boy had a midshaft girth of 8.22" or did I misunderstand?.
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Yes, but his flaccid length and girth has increased at the same time. rofl
 
Lol, not to mention that he claimed a waist size of 36" which is I guess about average for a grown man. However, he claimed that his chest is 59" which would give him a tremendous v-shape which could only be possible for a tremendously athletic and muscular guy. BUT, with those rediculous stats he claims a 32% body fat???

Personally, I could tell that this guy was full of shit before I was halfway through the first post. I think it was the pringles can comment that sealed the deal in my book. Why can't we just be honest with each other here?
 
1625 ngl is a massively huge number for a testosterone level. I know that aint coming from the ROP.

And the Pringles can dick was hilarious. Mandingo wishes.
 
Hey skepdick,

Would you say that this was worse than ANYTHING kong EVER claimed?

The point being, at least kong, and to use his own words, was never promoting anything he had to sell and never asked for a dime from anyone. The ROP was like 50-60 bucks made with about 20 bucks in material with 20 bucks being enough to make about 3 of them.

kook

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BTW, what is that thing at the base of his pic that it looks like he is trying to hide? would that be some sort of cockring maybe?

kook
 
koooky said:
Hey skepdick,

Would you say that this was worse than ANYTHING kong EVER claimed?

The point being, at least kong, and to use his own words, was never promoting anything he had to sell and never asked for a dime from anyone. The ROP was like 50-60 bucks made with about 20 bucks in material with 20 bucks being enough to make about 3 of them.

kook

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BTW, what is that thing at the base of his pic that it looks like he is trying to hide? would that be some sort of cockring maybe?

kook
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Both are bad but for entirely different reasons. I think that the ROP could have been produced (in bulk) for more like 1-2 dollars apeice. That being said, EVERYthing about the opening post in this thread is pure male fantasy and yes, that is some sort of cock ring, the guy is clamped and still probly a ways away from the 7 inch girth he claims. I don't know why guys get off lying about their dick size to other guys on an anonymous forum.
 
I think I recognize what he is hiding at his base. It looks like the leather strap that comes with Kaplan pumps. I know becouse I just bought one.

So he is probably pumped and ¨clamped¨ with it.

About the ROP, I would comment, but I am still trying to sell a couple to get rid of the extra materials from when I made mine. I don´t want to sound like I´m trying to promote the ROP, never had and never will. But if asked, I will tell what I think about it. I will say though that I don´t think its BS at all.
 
Why do I always get dragged into this ROP bullshit? It isn't fair. I never had anything to do with the ROP, never sold it, never promoted it and never gave two shits about it. I don't know if it works or does not work and I don't care. All I ever cared about was making you guys see the pure hypocrisy of circumcision and letting you know what some of the benefits of FR might be. If you got burned by Supra or the ROP, I feel bad for you, but it has nothing to do with FR. I never made the outrageous claims attributed to me by my detractors here. If you will reread all the way back to the original FR threads, you will never hear me promise anything unequivocably, only say that THE BENEFITS OF FR DEPenis EnlargementND ON THE DAMAGE DONE BY THE ORIGINAL CIRC. I still stand by that. The catch is, most men don't know what circumcision has actually done to them. Because we're almost ALL cut, turkey neck, lack of sensation, tight skin, etc are all considered normal conditions of the penis. Whatever. Most of the claims I made are stickied right at the very top of the FR forum because of this repeated personal slander. If anyone is curious about FR and its benefits, please read the stickies. If anyone would like to debate any claims I've made, I have plenty of documentation, scientific studies and whatnot saved onto my hard drive ready for you.
 
Skepdick said:
Both are bad but for entirely different reasons. I think that the ROP could have been produced (in bulk) for more like 1-2 dollars apeice. That being said, EVERYthing about the opening post in this thread is pure male fantasy and yes, that is some sort of cock ring, the guy is clamped and still probly a ways away from the 7 inch girth he claims. I don't know why guys get off lying about their dick size to other guys on an anonymous forum.
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How is FR bad, skepdick? Why don't you just be honest and tell everyone the truth. You tried it for a little while, it didn't do what you thought it would and now you're bitter about it. Thing is, I just don't think you tried very hard. FR requires dedication and patience, and you just didn't see it through. Don't blame me for your lack of fortitude. I've been doing this for almost 2 years now. It takes an real effort. It's not a magical electric ring you stick on your weiner. I say this as a friend. Research it with an open mind, make a real and determined effort, and do it right. You will see the benefits we restorers speak of. Everyone wants a quick fix. FR is not that thing. FR is something that requires a much greater effort... and because of that, you know there has to be something to it. Do you think I would still be here 2 YEARS LATER if I didn't truly believe? Do you think I would keep putting up with your BS if I didn't think it was monumentally important? It's not like I make $50 every time someone decides to give FR a try. Stop running FR down just because you're too lazy to do it right.
 
kong1971 said:
How is FR bad, skepdick? Why don't you just be honest and tell everyone the truth. You tried it for a little while, it didn't do what you thought it would and now you're bitter about it. Thing is, I just don't think you tried very hard. FR requires dedication and patience, and you just didn't see it through. Don't blame me for your lack of fortitude. I've been doing this for almost 2 years now. It takes an real effort. It's not a magical electric ring you stick on your weiner. I say this as a friend. Research it with an open mind, make a real and determined effort, and do it right. You will see the benefits we restorers speak of. Everyone wants a quick fix. FR is not that thing. FR is something that requires a much greater effort... and because of that, you know there has to be something to it. Do you think I would still be here 2 YEARS LATER if I didn't truly believe? Do you think I would keep putting up with your BS if I didn't think it was monumentally important? It's not like I make $50 every time someone decides to give FR a try. Stop running FR down just because you're too lazy to do it right.
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Dude would you shut the fuck up and stop creating drama?!?!?! I didn't even mention you or FR, this thread has nothing to do with you. If you hadn't noticed, ever since you left and said you wouldn't be back for a "looooooooooooong time", made a total ass out of yourself, and then came back, I HAVEN'T DEBATED ANY OF THIS FR CRAP WITH YOU! You're now doing to me what you did to Swank, initiating drama.
 
Skepdick said:
Both are bad but for entirely different reasons. I think that the ROP could have been produced (in bulk) for more like 1-2 dollars apeice. That being said, EVERYthing about the opening post in this thread is pure male fantasy and yes, that is some sort of cock ring, the guy is clamped and still probly a ways away from the 7 inch girth he claims. I don't know why guys get off lying about their dick size to other guys on an anonymous forum.
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You did say it was bad, or maybe I misunderstood your intent. However, I just want you to be clear on why you think it is bad. I hate to think you might influence someone away from FR if it might help them just because you keep talking about what a scam it is and how it doesn't work without anything to back that up but a chip on the shoulder. I also think you shouldn't curse at me, as my post to you was pretty civil.
 
WHoaaa... Kong. I'm the one who brought up your name to start with and I don't believe I said ANYTHING about FR. What I was comparing was YOUR threats to ban members and Supra deleting post if anyone had anything bad to say about his 50 dollar ROPs.

Go back and read it, post 6 of this thread. That is the ONLY thing I mentioned that brought your name into this and it is a reasonable comparison(MOD Power abuse)

But, in your case, you did what you did because I believe you to be very passionate and somewhat fanatical about your beliefs in FR and circ. Most believe what Supra did he did because he did not want damage his sale of ROP's by letting negative threads get started about it.

Please Kong....go back and read the original post from this thread that mentioned your name...it should be mine and should be #5-6
 
kong1971 said:
How is FR bad, skepdick?
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I never said it was, reread the original post. He asked me what I thought about your rediculous claims (and even YOU have admitted to have bullshitted us on occasion about those).
kong1971 said:
Why don't you just be honest and tell everyone the truth. You tried it for a little while, it didn't do what you thought it would and now you're bitter about it. Thing is, I just don't think you tried very hard. FR requires dedication and patience, and you just didn't see it through.
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This is true, I tried it for a day or two. Then I reread some of your ridiculous claims and looked back at your progress (or lack thereof) pictures and realized that I wouldn't get any benefits from it which is fine. What is NOT true is that I am bitter about it. I really don't care one way or the other. Your attempts to psychoanalyze are once again pathetic
kong1971 said:
Don't blame me for your lack of fortitude.
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When and where did I blame you?
kong1971 said:
I've been doing this for almost 2 years now. It takes an real effort. It's not a magical electric ring you stick on your weiner. I say this as a friend. Research it with an open mind, make a real and determined effort, and do it right. You will see the benefits we restorers speak of. Everyone wants a quick fix. FR is not that thing. FR is something that requires a much greater effort... and because of that, you know there has to be something to it.
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I don't really want the foreskin back and I DO think that there were many benefits to the ROP in the way you promoted it (basically as a "cure all" to any sexual ailment a person could have, and it didn't stop with the sexual realm, you made ricidulous claims about circumcision causing aggression in men and such). Not to mention the way you attempted to silence any opposing viewpoints by threatening to ban the members who disagreed with you.
kong1971 said:
Do you think I would still be here 2 YEARS LATER if I didn't truly believe? Do you think I would keep putting up with your BS if I didn't think it was monumentally important? It's not like I make $50 every time someone decides to give FR a try. Stop running FR down just because you're too lazy to do it right.
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I have seen your pictures and I am sure you are full of shit about your size, gains, and FR progress. It doesn't matter whether you have been here for 2 days, 2 years, or 200 years. I never doubted for a moment that you believe all the nonsense you preach. When you keep lying over and over, it becomes hard to distinguish between what is and isn't reality.
 
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You did say it was bad, or maybe I misunderstood your intent. However, I just want you to be clear on why you think it is bad. I hate to think you might influence someone away from FR if it might help them just because you keep talking about what a scam it is and how it doesn't work without anything to back that up but a chip on the shoulder. I also think you shouldn't curse at me, as my post to you was pretty civil.
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Kooky brought you up, I merely responded to his question. Get the fuck off my back.
 
That was some pretty funny shit AC.

Do yo think I have become to nice in my post?

Do you think I was out of hand by making my initial observation?
 
koooky said:
WHoaaa... Kong. I'm the one who brought up your name to start with and I don't believe I said ANYTHING about FR. What I was comparing was YOUR threats to ban members and Supra deleting post if anyone had anything bad to say about his 50 dollar ROPs.

Go back and read it, post 6 of this thread. That is the ONLY thing I mentioned that brought your name into this and it is a reasonable comparison(MOD Power abuse)

But, in your case, you did what you did because I believe you to be very passionate and somewhat fanatical about your beliefs in FR and circ. Most believe what Supra did he did because he did not want damage his sale of ROP's by letting negative threads get started about it.

Please Kong....go back and read the original post from this thread that mentioned your name...it should be mine and should be #5-6
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I apologize for misunderstanding the intent of that. Yes, I am guilty of losing my cool. However, I do seem to catch alot of shit that should actually be thrown Supra's way. I may have went apeshit a few times, but I have never and would never delete posts or try to deceive someone to make a few bucks. Asshole, yes. Mod power abuse, no.
 
I never said it was, reread the original post. He asked me what I thought about your rediculous claims (and even YOU have admitted to have bullshitted us on occasion about those).

I have joked around at times. Do you really think I was serious when I said FR gave you psychic powers? The objective and subjective benefits of FR are stickied at the top of the FR forum.

This is true, I tried it for a day or two. Then I reread some of your ridiculous claims and looked back at your progress (or lack thereof) pictures and realized that I wouldn't get any benefits from it which is fine. What is NOT true is that I am bitter about it. I really don't care one way or the other. Your attempts to psychoanalyze are once again pathetic

When and where did I blame you?

"Shut the fuck up", "Get the fuck off my back", "ridiculous", "pathetic"... Umm, okay. Anyhoo, I won't try to psychoanalyze you anymore.

I don't really want the foreskin back and I DO think that there were many benefits to the ROP in the way you promoted it (basically as a "cure all" to any sexual ailment a person could have, and it didn't stop with the sexual realm, you made ricidulous claims about circumcision causing aggression in men and such). Not to mention the way you attempted to silence any opposing viewpoints by threatening to ban the members who disagreed with you.

Stickies, stickies, stickies...

My ridiculous claims are actually based on published professional research papers and articles. Would you care to view one?

http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/boyle6/

I never threatened to ban anyone who did not agree with me. I only attempted to ban some few who tried to disrupt the FR forum so that they could silence information they found unpalatable. You have your view on that and I have mine.

I have seen your pictures and I am sure you are full of shit about your size, gains, and FR progress. It doesn't matter whether you have been here for 2 days, 2 years, or 200 years. I never doubted for a moment that you believe all the nonsense you preach. When you keep lying over and over, it becomes hard to distinguish between what is and isn't reality.

"Full of shit...", "nonsense...", "lying over and over..." Nothing personal there, right? It does get tiresome being called a liar all the time. Sometimes I feel like I'm talking to kids who stick their fingers in their ears and cry "lalalalalala!" I'm trying to learn to not let it bother me. I know not everyone falls for the "kong is a lying nut" routine. I'm going to be posting some FR update photos later tonight. Maybe you can find a few minutes to come and dispute them. Should be fun...!
 
PS-- AC is right. I respect him for having the balls to call this "lurker" out. This thread is nothing but bullshit from start to finish. It should be trashed.
 
Look Kong, I am only making a comparison. That's it. Between what recently went on in the FR forum with you as a MOD and what Supra did when he was a MOD. And, I am in a way defending you because where you do admitedly come of assholish at times, you never tried to profit one cent from anything you tried to tell people. It is only the two most recent instances I am comparing is all.

Am I the only one who found it odd now we have "newbies" and "lurkers" all with great things to say about the ROP after such a long hiatus with nothing but bad being said about it?

Kooky
 
kong1971 said:
PS-- AC is right. I respect him for having the balls to call this "lurker" out. This thread is nothing but bullshit from start to finish. It should be trashed.
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Too many threads where you make a total ass out of yourself get trashed, lets leave this one.
 
I think you are right AC. I do think that this place HAS evolved over the past year or so. And yes, I think alot of it happened after the ROP issue. Yes Supra apoligized and blah, blah blah, but, the point being is that [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] as a whole "grew up" afterwords I think. I think [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] "woke up" and realized that yeah, there were people who spent their money and were never forced into it, but the fact that there was a premeditated intent to deceive is what we all grew up from. Let me try to type that again, so it seperates from the "bro-telligence" factor.

The deleting of negative post was apoligized for and labeled as a "mistake" and "I'm only/just human". The fact is that many of us--the key majority that AC is refering to--went beyond the "mistake" as to the INTENT of that mistake. It was premeditated and deliberate to drive down negative feedback about the ROP, therefore only positive feedback was available and it would only lead to an increased chance of more people wanting it.

I think that is where this "key majority" comes in. There is more of a measure of what is the INTENT of statments or acts that obviously are made to draw a response.

I am sure guys like AC, Swank, jakb, skepdick, Shithead and others wonder why there are now post concerning all the benefits of the long forgotten ROP.

I also think that this key majority have taken more of a back to the basics attitude. At least that is what I think. There are results in Penis Enlargement. But it is due to the results of years of the same guys doing the same things to make these basics the building blocks of a solid, yet sometimes very slow Penis Enlargement program.

Probably more than anyone else I give a lot of credit to Kong for his addition here and I would hate to see hime leave. He does have a great deal of knowledge and technique in the realm of FR, and I for one think that this knowledge/technique readily applies itself to the basis of Penis Enlargement. My opinion is that sometimes Kong can be fanatical and self admittedly assholish. But, there has never been one time Kong has refused to help someone with an honest request for help, all without asking for a dime from anyone OR deleting post of those in this "key majority" who question his at times fanactical approach or his need to completely lose it at times.

Wow...really long winded I know and I apoligize. The point being, as a member of this "key majority", I take a strong stance over the "newbies" and "lurkers" trying to push a product such as the ROP. You want to spend 50-60 bucks? Buy a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] or even better buy a membership here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. Get something with a history of SOLID results and a solid track record.

kook....

BTW, I am sure I will read back over this later and completely mis-read what my INTENT was.
 
No, you're right yet again, guys. These last five posts were very informative for me. I personally don't care about the ROP, which to me is basically a battery-powered cockring. I know I make FR sound like the cure-all sometimes, but to me it is. However, please try to seperate the intents of Supra and I... he was profiteering, while I am basically just cheerleading for something I thought and still think is a great addition to Penis Enlargement. I never asked for money or deleted any posts. I just tend to take things too personal, and don't think before I post sometimes.
 
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