Improving Refractory Times

So, who has tried Tongkat Ali, or especially the Tongkat Ali 1:50 extract? Just wondering if this Serge kreutz is just advertizing it. Wouldnt mind having even MORE libido, but its so much fake stuff out there its hard to find the real stuff.
 
jody said:
randolf, i read that tadalafil (cialis) is better than sildenafil (viagra) in every way. less side effects and lasts longer. but i know nothing about vardenafil (levitra). look at this:

http://www.biopsychiatry.com/sexdrugs.htm
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Sweet. I like the idea of it lasting that long. I want to have mass night erections. Like super super hard. I went for two years basicaly with very rare night erections because of anti depressants problems with erections and because with the anti depressants I can't get much sleep.

My erections at night seem to be coming back somewhat more now though.

Also for working out with pe. So you can go that extra .125 inch in girth in your workout, to really expand the penis. And so that you are hard for your whole workout. The cialis might be the better way to go from the sounds of things.

As for the tongkat ali, I have read several men on different forums say that it was the most powerful aphrodisiac they have tried. For me I haven't tried it but the one I do have is tribulus and it seems to work great for me.

I would want to try this too. I see taking these almost like vitamins but not as much. Just whenever you feel like you need a lift, or have a hot date:).
 
Could someone who has some knowledge of aphrodisiacs do a thread specifically on them and their respective affects on men and women? I think it'd be handy to have a central repository on the subject, especially if a guy's doing the cooking for the evening.
 
Yeah, should have a forum for different chemical/natural products. Where an admin starts a thread for each product, then modify the first post to reflect peoples opinions throughout the thread.
 
Dagger said:
Yeah, should have a forum for different chemical/natural products. Where an admin starts a thread for each product, then modify the first post to reflect peoples opinions throughout the thread.
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Well, there is already a health and supplements board. I imagine that's where such a thread would go. I'm invisioning something along the lines of the herbs vitamins and amino acid threads that are made sticky there.

I'd make the thread myself, but I have virtually no knowledge of the subject.
 
I bought some Tong Kat Ali to help with workouts. I have not been on it very long nor have I been very consistant taking it. In my effort to "save a buck", I bought a 1lb. bag of pure Ali powder.IT was to be mixed in any liquid for consumption.I hate to say it, but this is the worst tasting stuff I have ever put in my mouth!!!I can chew Viagra like candy, but this powder makes everything you mix it in taste like it! Does anyone know where I can buy some gelatan capsules? I will take 20 at a time just so I don't have to have that taste in my mouth again!!!Then maybe I can see if it really works!!
Thanks
 
wants9 said:
Could someone who has some knowledge of aphrodisiacs do a thread specifically on them and their respective affects on men and women? I think it'd be handy to have a central repository on the subject, especially if a guy's doing the cooking for the evening.
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This is a wonderful idea! I would like to be involved with it.
 
doublelongdaddy said:
This is a wonderful idea! I would like to be involved with it.
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Thanks. Pheromones is another subject I'd like to see a similar thread on.

Anybody 'round these parts know enough to do a comprehensive thread on either subject?
 
wants9 said:
I really don't know one way or the other, but I've heard the same thought about Penis Enlargement.
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Isn't it amazing how everything we thought prior to Penis Enlargement as being full of shit starts to play in our minds as possible? If anything else Penis Enlargement has opened many minds.
 
wants9 said:
I really don't know one way or the other, but I've heard the same thought about Penis Enlargement.
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I've tried pheromones before. All I can say is damn they own. I tried the two brands that seem to do okish. Then I ordered a third more expensive kind. This was about 3 years ago.

All I can say is wow women were coming up to me and standing so close they were touching me. Women who sat a little ways away from me weren't attracted really to me, when they got close they were like turned into sex monsters.

I only got to wear it like 4-5 times though because I was keeping it in a box with all that styrofoam stuff. But my mom cleaned out my room while I was out and it was gone. By the time I found out they had taken it to the recycle depot.

The problem was it was like 90$ american, with all the shipping. So I didn't have any money to buy more right away. I was pretty depressed and out of it at the time too, but I always remember it.

I will look through all the companies later today and find the one that worked so well. And damn it worked well. Like one time I wore it to the hairdresser. Was two about 30 something women cutting hair there. I wasn't feeling well at the time and hadn't really bodybuilt yet. Anyway the girl was cutting my hair and she started complimenting me on how good I looked.

I was like huh inside. Because chicks rarely did that. This was the first time I put on this scent. I had just gotten the box from the post office. Then pretty soon the other chick there finished cutting hair and came over and was standing by me on the other side. She was like wow he is looking good, and staying right beside me as the other one cut my hair.

This was the third different brand of pheromones I had gotten, and it had about 100 times the concentration of androstenon as the others. And androstenon is very very expensive because, well I can't remember why. Its very hard to manufactur I believe.

Anyway I only got to wear it a few times like I said, but each time I did the girls were all over me like never before. Like these hairdressers were in their 30's and I was 20.

The thing with me is I never believe the common wisdom on anything. Never a day in my life did I believe in god. When the government comes out and tells us things are grrrr-reat I couldnt' care less what they 'say'. When I heard about pe I read about what people were saying then thought ya its doable. Pheromones same thing, I read about it and why it works then tried it. Worst case it wouldn't work right?

When people published the how to eat healthy guide, I went and read different views myself, then experimented. That is why I am so buff now, I eat way differently then is commonly accepted. Same for bodybuilding I listened to different theories and tried shit out.

Actualy same for picking up women. Their stupid ways they say don't do anything. I just tried different things out and over time saw how women reacted. Also I would just sit there and watch for hours in nightclubs how women reacted to different men. Just learning. I would see guys that looked like total assholes come in and crowd the woman's space and be too aggressive.

At first I was like oh damn this is gonna be a burn. But then the girl got into it and started bumping with the guy. I was like Hydromaxmm. After seeing this time and again, and watching guys who respected the women so much have the women leave everytime. My thinking started changing.

The problem with information is so many people have a vested interest in one information being passed. For example penis surgery urologists saying npe doesn't work. But that is the tip of the iceberg.
 
To the guy who wrote of his experiences with pheremones and the hair dressers, I can't see that post any longer, but I'd love to know what brand illicited those effects. PM me too, if you don't mind, to make sure I get it.
 
Blue Grass and old fast fiddle is tight, but the new country sucks a big fat cock. Toby Keith is a douschbag. Just like with most to the new rock and metal. Its not the same and it kinda sucks.

I like old Megadeth, Metallica, Pantera, SRV, Hendrix, Yngwie Malmsteen, Dick Dale, RHCP, and the list is endless.

I like some good hiphop like Atmosphere or Sage Francis. Tekno is okay if its not the gay kind with the same monotonous beat. I like Aphex Twin and that Drum-n-Bass shit.
 
Doublelongdaddy said:
It seems that when we uploaded the back-up file to resurrect SUPRAs missing thread we have some glitches from the 19th. All this info is on the board it is just acting strange. Hopefully when these threads are bumped they will correct themselves.
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Hope so. Just so you know, I still can't see any posts in this thread after the one where I stated that I'd heard simlar statements about Penis Enlargement. I have to go into "view printable version" mode in order to see them.
 
At my age, I have seen a lot of increase in the Teststrone via the ring of power. Also, I know that I must take lots of vitamin E. If I am to have a couple or three good sexual bouts a day, I have to hit the vitamin E hard. You younger guys will really cum when you take vit. E. 2000 units a day, my advice. Older fella's the 2000 units a day is a must. Try it and see! GS
 
I have been reading the following 2 books:

"The Multi-Orgasmic Man " and
"Taoist Secrets Of Love"

Now, just like Penis Enlargement it takes lots of effort and practice but once you can have "tantric sex" you will be able to orgams and not have to spit your cum! The once a month or 2 do a "Big Draw" and release! You will be showering cum all over!

IF you Penis Enlargement and then learn Tantric sex then there will be no woman that will resist you!

Tantric people can have sex for 8 hours staight! Ask STING~~
 
German Stallion said:
At my age, I have seen a lot of increase in the Teststrone via the ring of power. Also, I know that I must take lots of vitamin E. If I am to have a couple or three good sexual bouts a day, I have to hit the vitamin E hard. You younger guys will really cum when you take vit. E. 2000 units a day, my advice. Older fella's the 2000 units a day is a must. Try it and see! GS
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Damn, your an animal GS! That poor wife of your:D
 
I got my generic Dostinex in the mail along with my super viagra(generic of course.

How much dostinex do I need to take to stop the refractory time?

Is super viagra that much stronger, or just quicker? I got 50mgs
 
There are two ways to reduce prolactin:

1. Anti-estrogen. Best one would probably be Nolvadex, it is a SERM (Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator) which means it attaches to the estrogen receptor (ER) and blocks estrogen from getting to it. Since there are two subtypes of the ER, a SERM will block estrogen in some tissues, while acting as a (mild) estrogen in others. Nolvadex has been shown to reduce prolactin in males. Arimidex or Aromasin would reduce estrogen by blocking or reducing levels of the aromatase enzyme, the enzyme responsible for converting testosterone to estrogen. Since normal estrogen levels are required for optimal libido, you might shoot yourself in the foot by lowering estrogen in order to lower prolactin if you kill you libido in the process, so in general I don't recommend anti-aromatase unless you are using high dosages of aromatizing androgens.

2. A dopamine-receptor agonist. Cabergoline/Dostinex has been mentioned, and another, more short-acting alternative is Bromocriptine. You should be able to get prolactin really low via this mechanism. Unfortunately, DA-agonists can have some noticeable side-effects, one of them is lowering endogenous testosterone levels. People who have experimented with DA-agonists report that they have no refractory period, and can just keep going after orgasm. Several report a much better orgasm control, and many experience multiple orgasms.
 
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