Hello guys!
I am PEing for 1 month and 7 days, and I understand that first month was like nothing even similar to PE.
But Last 7 days I am using newbie programm with 25 minutes stretching and 20 min jelq. For now I don't see any changes on my measurements but seems to me that something did change. I just need to see results to continue doing it for next years.
First and main question is
Does it really work?
When will I see first results?
Should I add BathM to my trainings?
What would you tell me to do to get my first gains?
Tell me please how often should I take measurements and which?
Length, girth - I understand but others I don't know.
Please help me guys, and write please your programmes and results (with spent time)
 
Ok a good starting point is the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] thread, it will go beyond the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] and really show you how you can get the fastest results possible.

Does it work? Of course.

When will you see results, it depends on your body, what you do, how long you do it and how intense you do it. But it is not uncommon for someone to gain 1-2 inches in length in just over a year if they are just starting out, as time goes on gains get harder to make. Should you add the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words]? It doesn't hurt, just as it doesn't hurt to use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words]. Can you gain doing only manual? Yes, it might take longer though. But again all this is explained in greater detail in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] thread.

Good luck and welcome to the brotherhood.
 
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Newbie5.7";708901 said:
Have you succeed your 7"?

Working on it, but if you check out my journal you will better understand my progress. Long story short I came back a month ago after being off from PE for one year and half. And in that month I gained .25" inch nbpel so I am on my way you could say.
 
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I'd be reticent in measuring too often, PE is such an incremental art that gains do not become apparent immediately, (or even after a few weeks, for that matter). Your body will adapt to the forces you're imparting, but similar to when you were going thru puberty, you won't notice that you've grown (until your GrandParents come to visit after a year of not seeing you and remark how big you've gotten...or after a year of PE you hook-up with an old GF and she remarks how big you've gotten, lol)
What was most effective for me was to use as much intensity as I could possibly handle and have multiple sessions daily...I did this for the first 18 months, (I have since noticed that I now respond better to 1-2 sessions 4-5 days each week, but still go at it as hard as I can). I can also attest that The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] products have worked wonderfully for me and they do provide instant feedback (although temporary) which helped with my motivation.
Read/absorb as much info as you can and keep a strong mental picture of what you want to achieve...this will take time, but be well worth it. Good luck!
 
2 sessions? It would be a little hard workout for me because even after 1 session I feel ache in my D, mostly because of jelqing, maybe because I squise too hard, or because some times it becomes erect jelq..
Okay one more question to profs
Semi-erect? I still can't definitely understand what does it mean. Is it D with full erected length but soft, or what? Or it's not full length but on half bigger than NBP?
And which condition should be of my D to do jelq and stretch?
 
Newbie5.7";708916 said:
Please tell me main measurements
Nbpel - not boner penis e? Length
And few other main points which I should meaure

NBPEL

Non- Bone pressed erect length. This means that the ruler is not going into your pubic bone which has fat.

BPEL

Bone pressed erect length. Meaning it presses onto the pubic bone where the fat is and is a more accurate measurement.

In this video You'll see NBPEL first then Girth then BPEL on how to measure : https://www.pegym.com/penis-exercises/how-measure-nbpel-girth-bpel-video-instructions
 
Correctly Charting Your Measurements

Bone Pressed Erect Length
Penis length is defined as the linear distance along the dorsal side of the erect penis extending from the mons veneris to the tip of the glans. In non-medical terms, the penis length is measured in a straight line on the top side of the erect penis, from the start of your pubic bone to the tip of your penis. Penis circumference is defined as the linear distance around the widest, thickest, part of the erect penis (see below).

1. Stimulate yourself into the erectile state.
2. Place your ruler at the pubic bone, at the base of your erect penis and measure to the tip of your glans.
3. Read the nearest quarter-inch measurement at the tip of your penis. (In the example shown, the measurement would be 4 and 3/4 (4.75) inches.)

Bone Pressed Flaccid Stretch
1. Make sure you are in a completely flaccid state.
2. Place your ruler at the pubic bone on the side of the penis
3. Stretch penis straight out
3. Read the nearest quarter-inch measurement at the tip of your penis

Non-Bone Pressed Erect Length
1. Stimulate yourself into the erectile state.
2. Place your ruler at the skin on the belly, at the base of your erect penis and measure to the tip of your glans without pushing ruler.
3. Read the nearest quarter-inch measurement at the tip of your penis.

Flaccid Length
1. Make sure you are in a completely flaccid state.
2. Place your ruler at the skin on the belly, at the base of your flaccid penis and measure to the tip of your glans without pushing ruler.
3. Read the nearest quarter-inch measurement at the tip of your penis.

Penis Erect Circumference
Penis length is not the only factor in determining penis size. The width, girth, or fatness, of a penis is also an important aspect when considering how you compare. Most people have a penis that is either longer and thinner, or shorter and fatter. To compare how the girth of your penis compares to the population, use the instructions below to determine your penile circumference (distance around the widest part of your penis).
1. Stimulate yourself into the erectile state.
2. Place the fabric ruler or string end at the widest part of your penis and wrap it carefully around one time. Mark the spot where the string first touches itself.
3. If using string, take the marked string and lay it against the ruler. Read to the nearest quarter-inch measurement.

Penis Flaccid Circumference
1. Make sure you are in a completely flaccid state.
2. Place the fabric ruler or string end at the widest part of your penis and wrap it carefully around one time. Mark the spot where the string first touches itself.
3. If using string, take the marked string and lay it against the ruler. Read to the nearest quarter-inch measurement.
 
Yeah. 2 weeks already.
Please tell me which state is more effective to both manual exercises(stretching and jelqing)?
Jelq -80-90% of erect
Stretch - 30-40%?(like flacid but still with some extra blood? Or completely flacid?)
 
Newbie5.7";708865 said:
Hello guys!
I am PEing for 1 month and 7 days, and I understand that first month was like nothing even similar to PE.
But Last 7 days I am using newbie programm with 25 minutes stretching and 20 min jelq. For now I don't see any changes on my measurements but seems to me that something did change. I just need to see results to continue doing it for next years.
First and main question is
Does it really work?
When will I see first results?
Should I add BathM to my trainings?
What would you tell me to do to get my first gains?
Tell me please how often should I take measurements and which?
Length, girth - I understand but others I don't know.
Please help me guys, and write please your programmes and results (with spent time)

[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] is a game changer, but it mostly just hits girth. if you want length you need to stretch and hang
 
Newbie5.7";709872 said:
Yeah. 2 weeks already.
Please tell me which state is more effective to both manual exercises(stretching and jelqing)?
Jelq -80-90% of erect
Stretch - 30-40%?(like flacid but still with some extra blood? Or completely flacid?)

40% and under for stretching
80% and above for jelqing
 
Okay next question.
Should I feel ache on next day? Like real workouts?
Because I feel it only after jelq, sometimes a little too much, under the glance.
 
Newbie5.7";710008 said:
Okay next question.
Should I feel ache on next day? Like real workouts?
Because I feel it only after jelq, sometimes a little too much, under the glance.

No you do not necessarily have to feel an ache. Personally I've never felt ache or soreness when I started and up to this day.. Sometimes people will say they feel sore on the glans but thats just from irritation of the force applied in the area when you stretch. If you feel some aching or soreness inside the penis that does not hurt and is not too bothersome then thats when you know you're doing a good job and you have to let it heal. That's why you have 1 day on then 1 day off.
 
This reminds me...I would often feel a deep/internal ache after a session when I was first starting-out, now I rarely do...time to ramp-up the intensity!! I of the thought that achiness after a work-out is a good thing
 
Thanks all guys for answering so fast and fluently.
I guess if we continue this way my thread will become FAQ for newbies.
Next question.
What would you add or change to my routine?
It's the same as from DLD phase 1 but without kegel and massaging balls. No offence, but for my opinion and thinking, it does not effect the actual growth, mostly I would say hardness of erection.
So it's
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie routine[/words] stretch 3(sides)x3(times)x4(positions)- 25 min
Jelq (20min +5min of jelqing with pushing the glance down)
I have red some guys are using different stretches. Do I need to stick to this programme? Or would you recommend me some extra exercises or modify mine?
P.S always ignoring warming up, but I do the same in gym and it does not effect the growth, maybe in this case I should be smarter.
 
And one more thing my length and girth are almost the same what I would say rather weird.
NBPEL - 5.85"
Girth - 5.6"
Should I do the same or my workout should be like more specific?
 
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Newbie5.7";710048 said:
And one more thing my length and girth are almost the same what I would say rather weird.
NBPEL - 5.85"
Girth - 5.6"
Should I do the same or my workout should be like more specific?

Measure BPEL instead of NBPEL. BPEL is more accurate measurement.

And what do you mean or what are you referring to when you say "Should I do the same or my workout should be like more specific"
 
kyomoto;710077 said:
Measure BPEL instead of NBPEL. BPEL is more accurate measurement.

And what do you mean or what are you referring to when you say "Should I do the same or my workout should be like more specific"

I don't know, but I thought different D-s should have different workouts according to their proportions. Maybe I should do more stretching and less jelqing or some like that.
 
Depends on what you want. You've got an awesome starting girth, already thicker than me after months of gains, but if you want more keep going. What's your goal size?
 
Newbie5.7";710094 said:
I don't know, but I thought different D-s should have different workouts according to their proportions. Maybe I should do more stretching and less jelqing or some like that.

Different dicks don't need different exercises for their size. Everyone can do the same exercises.

BPEL is Bone Pressed Erect Length. When you measure length with the ruler, press down on the fat pad all the way until you hit your bone then analyze the measurement. That's BPEL. It's more accurate because fat pad can fluctuate.
 
For now, I am not sure about am I doing it right so the goal is to gain at least 0.5 inch in length. If I got it I would do anything and continue up to 8-9 inche, even if it would take years. Because if it's working why do even consider dropping it.
 
Newbie5.7";710047 said:
Thanks all guys for answering so fast and fluently.
I guess if we continue this way my thread will become FAQ for newbies.
Next question.
What would you add or change to my routine?
It's the same as from DLD phase 1 but without kegel and massaging balls. No offence, but for my opinion and thinking, it does not effect the actual growth, mostly I would say hardness of erection.
So it's
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie routine[/words] stretch 3(sides)x3(times)x4(positions)- 25 min
Jelq (20min +5min of jelqing with pushing the glance down)
I have red some guys are using different stretches. Do I need to stick to this programme? Or would you recommend me some extra exercises or modify mine?
P.S always ignoring warming up, but I do the same in gym and it does not effect the growth, maybe in this case I should be smarter.

I would never forego the Testical Health Massage and Stretch or the Kegel Routine, both are VERY important to growth. The Testical Health works to cause a separation between the scotum and the base of the penis allowing for the penis to hand longer and heavier while allowing the scrotom to drop lower. Kegels are what will give you the proper blood flow to keep you penis erection quality high as you gain as there is a demand for more blood with a larger size.

What should be added? Bundled Stretched should be done right before your workout. 5 minutes is sufficient, 2.5 minutes to the left, 2.5 minutes to the right. Erect Stretches to help sure up new gains and close the gap between BPEL and BLFL. Last, Expressive Stretches are another point of gain that should not be ignored. In [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] it gives direction and explanation to these practices. Please read through [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] to gain a intimate understanding of PE remembering [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] is a study that has gone on for 14 years.
 
Newbie5.7";710168 said:
For now, I am not sure about am I doing it right so the goal is to gain at least 0.5 inch in length. If I got it I would do anything and continue up to 8-9 inche, even if it would take years. Because if it's working why do even consider dropping it.

Yeah for sure dude. Some people gain at different paces. I gained 2 inches in 11 months and some people it takes them a bit longer or even shorter. Your goal right now 0.5" is going to be considered a temporary goal because you'll want to get a higher number in the future once you get that gain. So keep 2 goals. 1 temporary goal and 1 permanent goal. Temporary goals are like check points that you'll strive to hit on your way to your 9" dick.
 
Newbie5.7";710356 said:
So please tell me your routine. The result is awesome.

Check out [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words], that is a big part of Ky's workout.
 
Newbie5.7";710356 said:
So please tell me your routine. The result is awesome.

[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] will get you started off.
 
kyomoto;710489 said:
SRT and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] will get you started off.

Start and finish you off!
 
kyomoto;710287 said:
Yeah for sure dude. Some people gain at different paces. I gained 2 inches in 11 months and some people it takes them a bit longer or even shorter. Your goal right now 0.5" is going to be considered a temporary goal because you'll want to get a higher number in the future once you get that gain. So keep 2 goals. 1 temporary goal and 1 permanent goal. Temporary goals are like check points that you'll strive to hit on your way to your 9" dick.

2 inches in 11 months is badass
 
rocky1243;710677 said:
Still though... have you maintained that growth rate?

What do you mean by maintained my growth rate. You asking if I'm gaining at the same 11 month per measurement ratio?
 
kyomoto;710686 said:
What do you mean by maintained my growth rate. You asking if I'm gaining at the same 11 month per measurement ratio?

Right... It most likely dropped a little bit, but I dont want to assume. Two inches is already a huge gain so I was just wondering when/if it starts slowing down now that you are past that point of "newbie gains".
 
rocky1243;710688 said:
Right... It most likely dropped a little bit, but I dont want to assume. Two inches is already a huge gain so I was just wondering when/if it starts slowing down now that you are past that point of "newbie gains".

The ratio drops faster and faster because the same exercises won't work the same. The penis adapts to the exercises as time goes on and it does not grow like before. Otherwise if we kept the same ratio the penis would be able to grow consistently every 3 months or so. It's not the case though.
 
kyomoto;710698 said:
The ratio drops faster and faster because the same exercises won't work the same. The penis adapts to the exercises as time goes on and it does not grow like before. Otherwise if we kept the same ratio the penis would be able to grow consistently every 3 months or so. It's not the case though.

I believe Rocky was asking for your specific experience(s) with any growth slow-down or are you still clipping along at .182"/mo. I know that I've hit a couple of plateaus after some quick, initial gains
 
Big Schwanz Acht;710700 said:
I believe Rocky was asking for your specific experience(s) with any growth slow-down or are you still clipping along at .182"/mo. I know that I've hit a couple of plateaus after some quick, initial gains

Yeah. Thanks BSA.
 
rocky1243;710702 said:
Yeah. Thanks BSA.

In that case yeah I hit a hard stop after those 2 inches. I tried all i could to gain more but at the moment im still going back to the basics, renewing my methods as i try harder to gain in size. Up until now I reached 8" BPFSL. Now BPFSL always was indicative of gains because you can close the BPEL - BPFSL gap. You can make BPEL reach your BPFSL. But yeah it's been almost a year since i've gained.
 
Big Schwanz Acht;710754 said:
grab your limp-d!ck by the head and stretch it out with all your might...jam the ruler into you fat-pad and then measure. Voila! BPFSL

Grab that cock by the day! :)
 
Big Schwanz Acht;710754 said:
grab your limp-d!ck by the head and stretch it out with all your might...jam the ruler into you fat-pad and then measure. Voila! BPFSL

important to find out potential gains
 
Okey so it's near 3 weeks after beginning [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] + bundled 10 min. Can't tell for sure about length but girth feels larger in my hand. About measurements it's a bit problem because I can't hold him on max length long enough.
Kyo, tell me please about [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] main point to stay elongated, did you use something?
 
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Newbie5.7";711230 said:
Kyo, tell me please about [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] main point to stay elongated, did you use something?

Have you tried [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]Ace Bandage[/words]? Thats what I currently use.
 
Newbie5.7";711230 said:
Okey so it's near 3 weeks after beginning [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] + bundled 10 min. Can't tell for sure about length but girth feels larger in my hand. About measurements it's a bit problem because I can't hold him on max length long enough.
Kyo, tell me please about [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] main point to stay elongated, did you use something?

I didn't use anything to stay elongated. I personally didn't see it was necessary when I started. It seems important now if you want flaccid gains but don't worry too much about that for right now. Just focus on your routine.
 
I am focused as f. 1 hour per day. But am not sure about intensity. You told that you think red spots are good [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sign[/words], I didn't have them. I am jelqing on 80-100% level. And you told as well about V-grip, can't use it because glance is losing all blood and he just slips off.
 
Newbie5.7";711230 said:
Okey so it's near 3 weeks after beginning [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] + bundled 10 min. Can't tell for sure about length but girth feels larger in my hand. About measurements it's a bit problem because I can't hold him on max length long enough.
Kyo, tell me please about [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] main point to stay elongated, did you use something?

In [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] there are a few ways to remain elongated for faster healing of new gains. Some of the methods are passive or light use of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words], the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] and the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PeniMasterPro[/words]. You can also use less expensive methods but these pail in comparison, the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] and the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] wrap. In any case I highly recommend you read the entirety of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] to gain an intimate understanding of what it has to offer in the way of education in speeding your gains in the smartest way.
 
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