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This is not meant to be an attack on the credibility of anyone here or FR in general, I just am confused about something and am wondering if maybe there is an explanation.

I have viewed Kong's newest pics and he definately seems as big as he claims, I am not about to call that into question. But, in terms of the current state of your foreskin, it looks no different than mine and I had a relatively tight circumcision. Especially in the erect pics, the shaft skin seems like it is pulled tight with no give. I have seen many people that WERE cut and did NOT do FR who have a lot more shaft skin than you have. Obviously you were probably cut extremely tight and you have brought back a decent amount of your foreskin, I am not calling that into question, but...

For for my question: How is it that you can have all of the supposed gains of a restored man when upon inspection your dick looks no different than a person who has been cut? It makes no sense. In my current state, I am cut and have never done FR, and I have about the same amount of skin for my shaft as you do. My skin doesn't "glide" when having sex, when I am hard my skin is pulled tight along my shaft. I just don't get it. When I hear you talk about how far you have come with FR I expected to see your pic and see like a pseudo foreskin that partially covered your penis head. I am sorry, but you still look like you are cut as tight as any circ'd man here in the US. It is possible that I have misjudged or am missing out on pertinent information here, I will not rule that out as a possibility. However, Kong, if you can shed light on this for me I would appreciate it. Once again, I am not insulting you or saying I'm right and you're wrong, I am just asking for clarification.

Skepdick
 
It is very hard to judge if someones skin is tight or not when erect. My skin in a pic probably looks tight too (when erect, not flaccid) but trust me, i have lots of movement.
 
No offense. I'll be happy to answer your questions...

I was cut extremely tight. So tight, in fact, that when I got a boner, it would pull my scrotum almost all the way up the shaft. I also had a pretty decent curve. When hard, my penis was basically unmoveable, and so was the skin. I could actually tear the skin at the c-scar line a little if I was too rough. After 10 months of FR, my scrotum has moved back closer to a more natural position, even when erect. Now, when erect, my scrotum goes about an inch or two up the shaft instead of halfway. My wife says that my balls bounce against her rectum when we fuck instead of her lips and she likes it...she says it is a real turn on. The best thing for me is that the skin is loose now. That is something that a picture doesn't show. My wife can pull the skin up the shaft all the way over the head pretty easily, and the looser skin makes sex better: she stays wetter, and it feels "softer" now inside her, more silky, it is hard to describe if you do not know. Maybe that is what they talk about the "gliding". Sometimes, if she is really tight, I'll feel that loose skin slide up and bump against the corona-- it just adds a little something extra with sex. When I am rock hard, I am still really tight, but not like before. After about six months of FR, I began to notice that the skin was more mobile. Did you know the skin is supposed to slide around and up and down the shaft? I didn't because mine never did. I had alot of scar adhesions that broke loose after a few months of stretching. Still, I would guess I am only halfway done. Consider, too, that most UNCUT guys do not have coverage when erect... My FR goal is to have a little coverage even when erect...just over the ridge of the head.

Also, too, doing FR and Penis Enlargement at the same time, my dick has been getting bigger as I grow more skin, so FR is taking quite a bit longer than it normally would, but that is okay with me. I am still trying to get my balls back where they should be. When I get erect, I will do exercises and pull the scrotum back off the shaft, away from the glans, trying to stretch the skin. I really want my balls off my shaft because it will make it look bigger (I hope) I am comfortable with my cock size, now, though. I am concentrating more on the FR than the Penis Enlargement. I do Penis Enlargement routines about three times a week now instead of two time a day. I still want to be bigger, but it is big enough for me for now...and for my wife!

If I am even semi-erect, I have very little exta skin. Just some wrinkles in the inner mucosal tissue (the lighter colored skin above the c-scar line).

If I am completely flaccid, I have a roll behind the glans that will sometimes roll over on its own when I am sitting or laying down. Sometimes I am really wrinkly, sometimes it slips over the head a bit. I am right at the point of getting real coverage, finally. It is like a "dam break" point...almost enough skin to spill over the glans and stay.

Recently, I have noticed with this cold weather that I am getting spontaneous coverage all by itself...but it is because I am cold and shrivelled up...but at least it is a start... Just turtling up, I guess. :) But it's cool to see what it's going to look like eventually...

As far as the sensitivity benefits, you have to understand restoration. It takes YEARS to get coverage, but in the meantime, you are staying covered 24/7. Your glans DKs after a few months. When you have sex, you feel the actual fucking folds in her pussy instead of just "warm/wet" because your head is so sensitive. Your new skin has new nerves and everything just seems to feel more intense. It's simple math there, really. 4 new square inches of skin = 4 square inches of new nerves = feels better.

I do admit that if I quit taping for a few days, the sensitivity in the head starts to diminish, but I have only taken a couple breaks over the last year from FR.

I am also lucky in that I have alot of mucosal tissue. There's enough to cover the entire head when I am taped, and I stay pretty wet in there. I don't think someone with less mucosal tissue would DK as fast as me.

If you have any other questions, let me know. I would be happy to explain. I am not trying to fool anyone and have nothing to hide! :)
 
Clears a few things up, although, from your pic I can clearly see that I have (at least) as much skin on my shaft as you and I do not get this gliding effect.

I guess I just don't get it how you are able to use yourself as the burden of proof for all the miracles of FR when, even if you have stretched your skin out from your starting point, which was incredibly tight, you are still at the current level of an average circumsized man.
 
Would you be willing to post erect pics showing that you get some some coverage over the head when erect, or that your skin now functions as a foreskin would during sex?

Also, are you sure about the nerver growth here? You are stretching skin from your shaft towards the head. Let me put it this way, if a bodybuilder works their ass off and jacks their arms up from 16 inches to 20 inches, that's a whole lot of new skin covering their arms. Are their arms more sensitive? Probably not, because it's arm skin that is being expanded. You're expanding plain old skin from the shaft. I don't know about other forum members, but the shaft of my penis is nowhere near as sensitive as the head, and I know the nerve density isn't the same.

Also, what is "mucoscal tissue." I thought that you lost nearly everything foreskin related from your penis when circumcised? I was also under the impression that the majority of the glands that produced any lubrication are part of the foreskin. Are you sure this isn't just sweat accumulating in any extra skin that you've grown out? Is this to say there are mucous membranes on the head of an uncircumcised penis?
 
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No swank. Let me clear this up for you, you are right in saying that shaft skin is just plain old skin, it isnt going to be sensitive as it isnt laden with nerves like the foreskin is, that is truly lost.
However most men who have a circumcision are left with inner skin. Some more than others, this inner skin is mucosal skin which produces the smegma etc. FR will grow more inner skin if there was any left from the cut.
 
The mucosal tissue is the remnant of the foreskin that was cut away. It is the light colored skin above your c-scar line. It is where all the "juice" is made that keeps the head wet and is also dense with sex-specific nerves. On a circed guy, this is the part of the shaft that "feels good" when you stroke it or play with it. This, coupled with the glans and whatever is left of the fren, is where you get your pleasure from during sex. Looking at your pics, swank, I see that you have 1/2 inch of mucosal tissue. Not a lot to work with, even if you did want to do FR. I have about 2 inches of mucosal tissue, no frenelum and a very sensitive glans. Every cut is different. You all accuse me of promising miracles and it is just unfounded. You need look only to the top of this forum to see what I actually promise with FR. The rest is in your heads. Sorry.

PS-- I will post some pics later today for you guys to criticize. Get your hatchets sharpened! :)
 
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Okay, here are those pics for you guys to criticize. Now, I want you to be as brutal and dense-headed as usual. :D

For you more open-minded men, please be aware that FR photos are not as easy to get as erect pics. You can make your dick get hard pretty easy, but getting a psuedo-foreskin to cooperate is a little more involved. I tried to show the different kinds of coverage with a cold, turtled weiner, regular hang and hard on, and demonstrate the skin mobility in still photos. I think they "give proof" that they show what I claim...which is that I am making good progress and am begining to get the more advanced benefits of FR, but still have a long way to go.

Keep in mind that you will get some benefits soon after begining FR. Keeping the glans covered will help regain sensitivity pretty early on. Skin Mobility improves pretty early on, too. The coverage and gliding comes much later.

One thing the photos don't show is just how much "looser" my skin feels. I could stretch it before, but it didn't feel as "natural". I don't know how to explain that better.

FR is not something that you do and, overnight, you have a foreskin. It takes a loooooonnnngggg time, and the progress is very gradual.

Definitely worth it, tho. Just the sensitivity increase is worth all the hassle.
 
Thanks for posting some pics Kong, but it doesn't appear that you have a normally functioning foreskin when erect from the pictures.

I can see you have some loosness in the flaccid shots which I can only assume was not there before, but in your 'erect coverage' shots at the end you don't appear to be nearly as erect as your normal erect shots. Also, the pic where you are pulling the skin over the head you are clearly only semi-erect.

When not fully hard I can easily do this as well, and it appears that you are pulling so hard that your pubic region is being tugged up the shaft. Under normal cicrcumstances I don't think this would happen during sex, and clearly it isn't the 'foreskin' area where this slack skin is coming from, but you strongly gripping at a lower point and moving all the skin from the shaft up. Like I said, I can do this very easily as well when not all the erect, as you clearly are not in the photo.

Also, it seems that amount of what you have described as the 'mucuscal tissue' in your before and after erect pics is the same. If there was more skin stretched on the shaft, wouldn't it change the amount of stretch for the tissue? Perhaps the pictures just aren't clear, but it seems that in the erect state there is hardly a difference.

Also, I have not personally looked into this yet, but are you saying that there special glands or secretionary ducts in or under the skin on that area of the penis, and that they are capable of functioning post circumcision if only covered for an amount of time? What is the nature of their secretions (chemical composition, amount, ect.)? Please post a link to wherever you are getting this information from.

A better and more convcincing picture would be an a clearly erect shot where you are actually able to roll some restored foreskin over the glans without stretching all the skin from your shaft up. I would think that if you are able to move within your own restored skin during sex than it wouldn't take much [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] to get some coverage over the glans in a fully erect state.
 
Swank said:
Thanks for posting some pics Kong, but it doesn't appear that you have a normally functioning foreskin when erect from the pictures.

I can see you have some loosness in the flaccid shots which I can only assume was not there before, but in your 'erect coverage' shots at the end you don't appear to be nearly as erect as your normal erect shots. Also, the pic where you are pulling the skin over the head you are clearly only semi-erect.

When not fully hard I can easily do this as well, and it appears that you are pulling so hard that your pubic region is being tugged up the shaft. Under normal cicrcumstances I don't think this would happen during sex, and clearly it isn't the 'foreskin' area where this slack skin is coming from, but you strongly gripping at a lower point and moving all the skin from the shaft up. Like I said, I can do this very easily as well when not all the erect, as you clearly are not in the photo.

Also, it seems that amount of what you have described as the 'mucuscal tissue' in your before and after erect pics is the same. If there was more skin stretched on the shaft, wouldn't it change the amount of stretch for the tissue? Perhaps the pictures just aren't clear, but it seems that in the erect state there is hardly a difference.

Also, I have not personally looked into this yet, but are you saying that there special glands or secretionary ducts in or under the skin on that area of the penis, and that they are capable of functioning post circumcision if only covered for an amount of time? What is the nature of their secretions (chemical composition, amount, ect.)? Please post a link to wherever you are getting this information from.

A better and more convcincing picture would be an a clearly erect shot where you are actually able to roll some restored foreskin over the glans without stretching all the skin from your shaft up. I would think that if you are able to move within your own restored skin during sex than it wouldn't take much [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] to get some coverage over the glans in a fully erect state.
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Yes, he can yank his foreskin partially over his head when flacid or maybe semi flacid, bravo, all of us, even tightly circ'd guys, can do that.
 
Remember when [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] was a nuturing, supportive place, completely opposite of Thunder's? I do. Hopefully, we can get back to that soon.
 
Thats an awsome job kong! Didn't know a penis shrank that much without foreskin.
You must have gained atleast .2-.4" in extra skin?

Btw do you know any easy way to stretch the frenelum?
 
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Thanks for posting some pics Kong, but it doesn't appear that you have a normally functioning foreskin when erect from the pictures.

If I did, I would be "restored" not "restoring"...

I can see you have some loosness in the flaccid shots which I can only assume was not there before, but in your 'erect coverage' shots at the end you don't appear to be nearly as erect as your normal erect shots. Also, the pic where you are pulling the skin over the head you are clearly only semi-erect.

You would be correct in assuming that it wasn't there before... I'm "restoring" not "restored". Typical Swank.

When not fully hard I can easily do this as well, and it appears that you are pulling so hard that your pubic region is being tugged up the shaft. Under normal cicrcumstances I don't think this would happen during sex, and clearly it isn't the 'foreskin' area where this slack skin is coming from, but you strongly gripping at a lower point and moving all the skin from the shaft up. Like I said, I can do this very easily as well when not all the erect, as you clearly are not in the photo.

Good for you! If you'd like to restore, you would have a jumpstart on me. I have stated that "I am only begining to notice a little bit of what might be described as gliding. Not enough skin yet." I have also stated that "I was cut so tight that even after 10 months of skin expansion, I am only loosely circumcised now. I still have a long way to go." What's your point?

Also, it seems that amount of what you have described as the 'mucuscal tissue' in your before and after erect pics is the same. If there was more skin stretched on the shaft, wouldn't it change the amount of stretch for the tissue? Perhaps the pictures just aren't clear, but it seems that in the erect state there is hardly a difference.

The inner mucosal tissue doesn't grow as fast as normal shaft skin. PS-- that's what that is, too. I didn't make up that description. It's called "inner mucosal tissue". ;) Look it up!

Also, I have not personally looked into this yet, but are you saying that there special glands or secretionary ducts in or under the skin on that area of the penis, and that they are capable of functioning post circumcision if only covered for an amount of time? What is the nature of their secretions (chemical composition, amount, ect.)? Please post a link to wherever you are getting this information from.

Where do you think the smell and the moisture and smegma comes from? :s Come on, Swank, quit playing games. You know as much about this as I do. It is obvious. So why are you trying to make me "prove" that inner mucosal tissue exists? What's the real motivation here?

A better and more convcincing picture would be an a clearly erect shot where you are actually able to roll some restored foreskin over the glans without stretching all the skin from your shaft up. I would think that if you are able to move within your own restored skin during sex than it wouldn't take much [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] to get some coverage over the glans in a fully erect state.

I'll get that for you...in about 10 more months! ;)
 
GhosT_DoGG said:
Thats an awsome job kong! Didn't know a penis shrank that much without foreskin.
You must have gained atleast .2-.4" in extra skin?

Btw do you know any easy way to stretch the frenelum?
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Thanks...I think... I was just trying to show my progress. Right now, I am getting a little coverage when I am cold and turtled up, but none when I am just normal flaccid. I am just "loosely circumcised" now, even after all the time I have invested. More and more, I am coming to understand just how tightly I was cut. All this stuff that I think is positive progress, everybody else seems to already have and take for granted. Well, I guess that's what FR is for. I am just glad to have gotten myself to "normal circumcision" and am now determined to keep it up until I am UN-circumcised.

That's why I get so hot when people try to run down FR. It can help men like me who really got butchered up, and they want to sweep it under the rug because it makes them feel bad about their weiners, somehow.

I remember before FR, when I thought sex was "no big deal" and very "Over-hyped". Now that my peccker is in alot better physical condition, I enjoy sex immensely and understand why it is such a big deal! :)

PS-- I don't have a frenelum. I know it can be stretched, but I have no personal advice for you, aside from doing some web searches for the info. My frenelum was completely removed during circumcision, and I'm kind of touchy about that subject.
 
kong1971 said:
Good for you! If you'd like to restore, you would have a jumpstart on me. I have stated that "I am only begining to notice a little bit of what might be described as gliding. Not enough skin yet." I have also stated that "I was cut so tight that even after 10 months of skin expansion, I am only loosely circumcised now. I still have a long way to go." What's your point?
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Ok, so you have stated that you were cut tighter than most and that you have made significant progress with FR, but that progress has only brought you up to the level of a REGULAR circumcision. That being the case, how do you have all these effects that us men who are regularly cut at birth don't have? For example, you claim that your shaft skin has the gliding effect during sex. No other guys with a loose circumcision claim to have that effect, only guys who are either uncut or fully restored. So basically, you boast about all these magical effects of your looser skin, but when called out on the fact that you really don't have a FR, just a looser version of your cut penis, you claim its BC all your work has only brought you from the level of tightly cut to regular cut. It's very inconsistent. You are incapable of using yourself as a burden of proof for the merits of being uncut, although you do it all the time.
 
Ditto with Skepdick. My point is, you are so far from restored I'm not sure how you can be experiencing all these amazing improvements when you clearly have no erect coverage whatsoever. Your whole point is "the foreskin makes a difference, and I know because I am restoring so I don't ahve to prove anything," but it's clear that you don't have anything close toa foreskin when erect. It's not a personal jab Kong, it's just obvious from the pictures. You're still a plain old circumcised man.

Also, smegma, as I understand it, is a combination of sweat, dead skin, dried semen, and other byproducts of the penile region in general. It is not something specially secreted by the tissues. The 'smell' of smegma is like any other body odor, just dead bacteria from sweat and skin. I'm just nor sure how this 'mucoscal tissue' actually comes into play or is physilogically different besides being more richly endowed with nerves. The whole head region of the penis is more sensitive in that respect.

You've more or less been arguing that you're having incredible, mind-blowing orgasms and making your wife sexually satisfied with a normal circumcision, whoo-hoo. Wouldn't you say it's a little misleading for you to speak from personal experience about how much better everything is when you're not cut, when in fact you clearly still are very much totally circumcised?

This may already be understood, but once again I think you've let your enthusiasm take over and you're living out a fantasy over the internet.
 
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