Really interested in the use of the grip system with the knee strap. I already have a BIB Hanger and a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words], I'm just looking for something that can keep me extended when I'm out and about and doesn't look ridiculously obvious.

Is it subtle? What happens when you sit down? Does it still keep tension or does it only work while standing?
 
Yeah I switched over the contact point, it's really simple actually, but I wear the smallest size already, there's nothing wrong with wearing the contact sleeve you seem like you're trying to avoid buying it but in reality your safest bet is to go ahead and get at least one.
 
Medicating;548418 said:
Really interested in the use of the grip system with the knee strap. I already have a BIB Hanger and a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words], I'm just looking for something that can keep me extended when I'm out and about and doesn't look ridiculously obvious.

Is it subtle? What happens when you sit down? Does it still keep tension or does it only work while standing?
Extremely subtle, the knee strap works sitting or standing, but if you're walking around a lot I recommend a waist strap because with every step you take the knee strap releases and pulls over and over which is bad because it's vacuuming your urethra, it can cause blisters.
 
The waist strap? So it's coming out of the top of your trousers? Isn't that really obvious if your go to get something off the top shelf and your shirt rides up?

I won't be walking too far. No more than a couple of minutes, and then I'll be sitting for long periods, would you still go with the waist strap?
 
I also want to buy the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] but I'm worried ill get the wrong size
 
Medicating;548509 said:
The waist strap? So it's coming out of the top of your trousers? Isn't that really obvious if your go to get something off the top shelf and your shirt rides up?

I won't be walking too far. No more than a couple of minutes, and then I'll be sitting for long periods, would you still go with the waist strap?

I'm not sure how their waist strap works but I assume it's still under your clothing and just stretched out over your left or right leg.
 
8incyclops;548525 said:
I also want to buy the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] but I'm worried ill get the wrong size

Have you done the measurement that the company suggests?
 
Jaronimo;548573 said:
I'm not sure how their waist strap works but I assume it's still under your clothing and just stretched out over your left or right leg.

You've totally lost me. It goes over my leg? I thought the waist strap means you'll have like a belt around your waist with a cord attached to the C Flex Sleeve?
 
Jaronimo;548610 said:
Have you done the measurement that the company suggests?

Yes I have about 3.5 inches flaccid around,I've made mistakes ordering Penis Enlargement stuff online years ago I guess I've just got cold feet.
 
8incyclops;548641 said:
Yes I have about 3.5 inches flaccid around,I've made mistakes ordering Penis Enlargement stuff online years ago I guess I've just got cold feet.

But you did measure just below the glans right? About a half inch under the glans with your flaccid penis stretched out with some decent tension? Make sure sure you're measuring somewhat tightly around your penis so you're measuring your inside structures and not the skin.
 
if your measurement is at the top of one size, and the beginning of the next, get the next size up. the sleeves "grip" on each other very well. I would also recommend getting a couple contact sleeves just in case. Also, Jaronimo is correct about the knee strap. if you use too much tension, there will be vacuum, and your urethra will swell. So I would advise that if you go the route of the knee strap, please check on things every couple of hours. I had the beginnings of a blister a few days ago, and luckily everything was ok.
 
Guys I really really want to get the top of the line package and am really close to buying it. I left them a message because I want to ask them some questions but they haven't called me back yet. I hope this is not indicative of their customer service.

Anyways, even though I have a bib hanger I want to take a stab at vacuum hanging. I was going to order an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] anyways. Not only is vacuum more comfortable but it elongates your whole shaft which increases girth more evenly where as with a bib you tend to see more of base girth increase because you are attaching midshaft. Also no loss of blood circulation which is a big issue for me. Apparently if you wrap your glans, keep the pressure below a certain threshold and limit your sets to 20-30 minutes then you shouldn't get any blisters although I admit spending $500 and getting one is going to really really suck. I dont want any down time.

Also with my thin girth I might not need such a high weight to reach my goal of 7" EL but even so in the video the guy claims being able to do 20lbs+ by putting an extra wrap on the sheath. timber1981 was hanging with 15 pounds. At the moment I'm reaching fatique with 5 pounds lol.

Anyhow it would be nice to hear more experiences from fellow users.
 
Bryson;548786 said:
Guys I really really want to get the top of the line package and am really close to buying it. I left them a message because I want to ask them some questions but they haven't called me back yet. I hope this is not indicative of their customer service.

Anyways, even though I have a bib hanger I want to take a stab at vacuum hanging. I was going to order an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] anyways. Not only is vacuum more comfortable but it elongates your whole shaft which increases girth more evenly where as with a bib you tend to see more of base girth increase because you are attaching midshaft. Also no loss of blood circulation which is a big issue for me. Apparently if you wrap your glans, keep the pressure below a certain threshold and limit your sets to 20-30 minutes then you shouldn't get any blisters although I admit spending $500 and getting one is going to really really suck. I dont want any down time.

Also with my thin girth I might not need such a high weight to reach my goal of 7" EL but even so in the video the guy claims being able to do 20lbs+ by putting an extra wrap on the sheath. timber1981 was hanging with 15 pounds. At the moment I'm reaching fatique with 5 pounds lol.

Anyhow it would be nice to hear more experiences from fellow users.

I think if you ordered everything individually you'd save a good deal of money but hey it's your money man.
 
What would you suggest? I definitely don't want to spend more than I have to. I'm already kind of stretching my budget this week. The website says you save $229.40 by going with the "C" package. The weights are $100 for 10 pounds which is a ripoff. Also package comes with 4 extra sleeves so I don't know if they are supposed to wear out or what. Aside from the knee strap should I get the leg strap? Waist belt? Bungee? With the summer coming I already don't know how I am goign to get away with wearing a kneestrap lol.

Bare essentials:
$65.00 Vac-U-Grip
$75.00 Vacuum Pump
7.50 Sports Wrap Tape
$55.00 Knee Strap
$15.00 2 Extra Contact Sleeves
$25.00 Weight AttacHydromaxent Sleeve
$13.00 2 Extra Sheaths for Vac-U-Grip

=

$255.50

Optional:
$25.00 Black Hand Pump (just in case the vacuum pump breaks or is it possible to find a replacement at a local hardware store?)
$15.00 The Grip System [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] & Catalog, Instruction Manual. ( Worth it? lol)

Also packages come with 40 Extra Bands for Vac-U-Grip. I don't know what that is and I don't see an option to buy it separate.
 
Bryson;548795 said:
What would you suggest? I definitely don't want to spend more than I have to. I'm already kind of stretching my budget this week. The website says you save $229.40 by going with the "C" package. The weights are $100 for 10 pounds which is a ripoff. Also package comes with 4 extra sleeves so I don't know if they are supposed to wear out or what. Aside from the knee strap should I get the leg strap? Waist belt? Bungee? With the summer coming I already don't know how I am goign to get away with wearing a kneestrap lol.

Bare essentials:
$65.00 Vac-U-Grip
$75.00 Vacuum Pump
7.50 Sports Wrap Tape
$55.00 Knee Strap
$15.00 2 Extra Contact Sleeves
$25.00 Weight AttacHydromaxent Sleeve
$13.00 2 Extra Sheaths for Vac-U-Grip

=

$255.50

Optional:
$25.00 Black Hand Pump (just in case the vacuum pump breaks or is it possible to find a replacement at a local hardware store?)
$15.00 The Grip System [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] & Catalog, Instruction Manual. ( Worth it? lol)

Also packages come with 40 Extra Bands for Vac-U-Grip. I don't know what that is and I don't see an option to buy it separate.

The vacuum pump is way over priced as well I know you can find it cheap at a tool store hell probably even ebay. And the sportswrap is useless in my opinion, it actually causes pain with the contact sleeve compressing it into your skin.
 
I agree the pump is overpriced as with everything else about the grip system but that's just how the Penis Enlargement industry is. If anybody knows where to find a pump cheaper please let me know. FYI the pump is essential to controlling the vacuum and preventing blisters. Same goes for the sportswrap. You need to protect the glans if you are going to use large amounts of weight. I don't see how you can get away without wearing it. Perhaps there's an adjustment period where your glans has to toughen up a bit? Also is the sportswrap reusable?

Do you own the vac-u-grip? I think it would be cool to hang your sets and when you're done hook it up to a kneestrap and keep on ADSing without having to take it off. Is that how it works?
 
I believe the vacugrip has a nipple so all you'd need is the line to connect the two which the item you've linked obviously includes, and what king is wearing is the "sheath" and from my understanding it seals up the device to the penis so no leakage.
 
Does anyone do body weight stretches with the grip system hanger? Example is attaching the hanger to a object that won't move like a wall and stretching or pulling your body in the other direction getting a really strong stretch.
 
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Bryson;548929 said:
Medicating, here is a picture of Supra wearing a [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] around his waist. I can't make up my mind about the grip system yet so I am going to be picking up a [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] for now. Plus it's not that expensive.

http://www.betterman.com/910-holy-grail-all-adss-ever.html#post4319

Thanks very much. No way I'm getting the waist strap. It'll be coming out of my jeans haha. Far too obvious!

The leg strap will be the one for me.
 
You know I tried leaving them 2 voicemails and an email just to ask some basic questions and never got a response. I like to get a feel that there is someone on the other end of the line especially when they expect you to spend $500 on their top package. Pretty fucking ridiculous and I gotta say I'm disappointed.
 
Bryson;549168 said:
You know I tried leaving them 2 voicemails and an email just to ask some basic questions and never got a response. I like to get a feel that there is someone on the other end of the line especially when they expect you to spend $500 on their top package. Pretty fucking ridiculous and I gotta say I'm disappointed.

it's a holiday weekend, I wouldn't necessarily read too much into that.
 
tbone77;549184 said:
it's a holiday weekend, I wouldn't necessarily read too much into that.

You're right, thanks tbone. I finally got in touch with them. I went ahead and ordered the top package. Should be getting it next weelk. I'll be able to answer any questions you guys have once I receive it.
 
Bryson;549577 said:
You're right, thanks tbone. I finally got in touch with them. I went ahead and ordered the top package. Should be getting it next weelk. I'll be able to answer any questions you guys have once I receive it.

Excellent, looking forward to hearing your thoughts on each tool.
 
Bryson;549577 said:
You're right, thanks tbone. I finally got in touch with them. I went ahead and ordered the top package. Should be getting it next weelk. I'll be able to answer any questions you guys have once I receive it.

It's been nearly a month any news, bud?
 
Jaronimo;552003 said:
It's been nearly a month any news, bud?

Hey guys, I'm back. Sorry for the delay but I literally just received my package. It took me almost a month to get it even though I paid EXTRA for express shipping. I've ordered things from china that got here sooner. On top of that, a bunch of stuff is missing from the package like the bungee and the 1 pound weighted sleeves. I was literally fuming a couple of hours ago. Not something you want to feel when you spend $600. I was ready to blast this company on every forum and do a charge back with my credit card. I just got off the phone with them and they are going to send out the rest of the stuff to me.

I haven't had a chance to try out the products yet but if there's anything you guys want to know I'd be glad to answer.
 
I'm extremely interested in what you think about the vac. hanger, any fluid retention or blisters? How long can you make it through before having to remove it, Etc.
 
Are you supposed to pull the foreskin back when you use the sportswrap? This was the most frustrating part about the whole process and the instructions were not very clear on that.

I attached the weight attachment sleeve using the sportswrap and contact sleeve underneath, now here is the strange part. I didn't feel anything at all using 2 or 3 pounds. With a bib hanger I could definitely feel my ligs with just 2.5lbs so I don't understand where the weight is being transfered if I don't feel it in my ligs, skin or penis. This defies logic lol.

I will try again with the vacu-grip tonight.
 
I wish I knew the answer pal as far as the c-flex and contact sleeve go I don't even use the sports wrap because within minutes it becomes painful as fuck as if the texture of the wrap is digging into my skin.
 
Ya for anyone wondering that sportswrap literally feels like sandpaper on your glans. I wonder if there is another wrap that is more comfortable. This feels like the Bib all over again with experimenting with different wraps... grrr!

So it was brought to my attention after I had ordered the GRIP system that it leaks. Last night I had an ok session hanging 3 pounds for 45 minutes. Not great...but ok. I still feel like the bib hanger targets the ligs more directly. Anyways, I pumped til the needle was at the red line and after 30 minutes sure enough the needle was down to the green line. No problem, one squeeze of the pump and I was good to go. However today the unit was leaking like crazy. It was like trying to blow a balloon with a hole in it. I tried wearing 2 contact sleeves just incase that was the problem but it was not so it must be the valve.

I contacted customer support and they have agreed to send out another unit along with the parts they are supposed to send me. I really really hope that this is just a case of a defective unit but at this time I cannot recommend this product.
 
Have you recieved your gear yet?
Bryson;554410 said:
Ya for anyone wondering that sportswrap literally feels like sandpaper on your glans. I wonder if there is another wrap that is more comfortable. This feels like the Bib all over again with experimenting with different wraps... grrr!

So it was brought to my attention after I had ordered the GRIP system that it leaks. Last night I had an ok session hanging 3 pounds for 45 minutes. Not great...but ok. I still feel like the bib hanger targets the ligs more directly. Anyways, I pumped til the needle was at the red line and after 30 minutes sure enough the needle was down to the green line. No problem, one squeeze of the pump and I was good to go. However today the unit was leaking like crazy. It was like trying to blow a balloon with a hole in it. I tried wearing 2 contact sleeves just incase that was the problem but it was not so it must be the valve.

I contacted customer support and they have agreed to send out another unit along with the parts they are supposed to send me. I really really hope that this is just a case of a defective unit but at this time I cannot recommend this product.
 
Man that sucks 1 month to get your gear I want to buy the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] leg strap thingy,the sites a bit confusing on what is what to or is that just me?
 
Thanks same thing it's no we're near worth $50 ill order from ab there on eBay to I've seen
So what do I buy if I only want the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]? A c- flex weight attachment sleeve and c-flex contact sleeve?
 
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8incyclops;557829 said:
Thanks same thing it's no we're near worth $50 ill order from ab there on eBay to I've seen
So what do I buy if I only want the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]? A c- flex weight attachment sleeve and c-flex contact sleeve?

yessir. I would get 2 contact sleeves and a c flex.
 
Has anyone got any more information about the knee strap etc, and how it is for walking?

I'm close to emailing this company and asking to review their product as there's so little news on this thing. I've been waiting months for someone to chime in!
 
Has anyone got any more information about the knee strap etc, and how it is for walking?

I'm close to emailing this company and asking to review their product as there's so little news on this thing. I've been waiting months for someone to chime in!
 
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