Barely any gains in 10 months, help.

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eugine8plz

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So since September 2015 I have gained about a total of .2"... I stretched everyday, used the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] almost every day for at least 3 hours and now I've been using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] on and off for about 4 months now (it's hard to wear it at work, in total I have probably logged around 80-100 hours so far in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]). It sucks that I can't wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] a lot because I know that it would help out a lot more then just the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words].

I have made a homeade [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] that works very well and is pretty easy to maneuver around in. It tugs very well and is quite comfy.

If anyone can give me any tips on what to do that would be awesome. I just want to see me grow up that ruler. Thanks bros!
 
Could you be more specific on the routine you are using?
 
doublelongdaddy;699222 said:
Could you be more specific on the routine you are using?
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So for the first month that I did PE my routine was basically a quick 5-10 minute stretching session followed by about 200-300 jelqs.

Then from October-January I did the full [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] stretching session followed by [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] for about 3-4 hours at a decent tension.

For the entire month of February and a bit of March I had a strained ligament that hurt really badly so I didn't do any PE for that entire month, I just massaged the area and kept a heating pad on it for about 1 hour a day.

At that point when the strain healed my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] came in. So from March-middle of May I would do random stretching sessions and try to stay in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for awhile. For this 2.5 months I stayed in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for a total of about 60 hours, but the first 40 I didn't do it to my full BPFSL because I was still getting used to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and was scared to wear it at full stretched length.

From middle of May-Now I have been doing my new routine.

- 5 to 10 minutes of bundles upwards
- 2 sets of stretches in all directions
-5 minutes of expressive stretches

After this I would try to stay in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for about 1-3 hours at max tension (only get in it about 2-3 times a week for about 1.5 hours before work as it is hard to wear it at work) always stay in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] for anywhere from 6-10 hours, sometimes at a high/decent tension and sometimes at a low tension.

If you could help me to build up a good routine and help me start gaining I would appreciate it very very much, thanks DLD!
 
Are you stretching to a point where its using all your strength? If you're not then you should. But if you are add more time/duration to each stretch. Increase your 30 second stretch to 1 minute (this is an example) Also try mandingo and erect stretching they are killer if you aren't already doing it.
 
kyomoto;699289 said:
Are you stretching to a point where its using all your strength? If you're not then you should. But if you are add more time/duration to each stretch. Increase your 30 second stretch to 1 minute (this is an example) Also try mandingo and erect stretching they are killer if you aren't already doing it.
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yeah one min stretches can be killer!! Would like to try the one min stretches instead of the 30 secs stretches haha
 
shortdick;699300 said:
yeah one min stretches can be killer!! Would like to try the one min stretches instead of the 30 secs stretches haha
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If you can't hold a stretch for longer than 30 seconds, then rest after 30 seconds and do another 30 seconds. You have to find out what works best for you.
 
kyomoto;699315 said:
If you can't hold a stretch for longer than 30 seconds, then rest after 30 seconds and do another 30 seconds. You have to find out what works best for you.
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yep good idea
 
did u get a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] yet? you can hold stretches for as long as you want and pull as hard as you want, they are good
 
eugine8plz;699240 said:
So for the first month that I did PE my routine was basically a quick 5-10 minute stretching session followed by about 200-300 jelqs.

Then from October-January I did the full [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] stretching session followed by [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] for about 3-4 hours at a decent tension.

For the entire month of February and a bit of March I had a strained ligament that hurt really badly so I didn't do any PE for that entire month, I just massaged the area and kept a heating pad on it for about 1 hour a day.

At that point when the strain healed my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] came in. So from March-middle of May I would do random stretching sessions and try to stay in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for awhile. For this 2.5 months I stayed in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for a total of about 60 hours, but the first 40 I didn't do it to my full BPFSL because I was still getting used to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and was scared to wear it at full stretched length.

From middle of May-Now I have been doing my new routine.

- 5 to 10 minutes of bundles upwards
- 2 sets of stretches in all directions
-5 minutes of expressive stretches

After this I would try to stay in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for about 1-3 hours at max tension (only get in it about 2-3 times a week for about 1.5 hours before work as it is hard to wear it at work) always stay in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] for anywhere from 6-10 hours, sometimes at a high/decent tension and sometimes at a low tension.

If you could help me to build up a good routine and help me start gaining I would appreciate it very very much, thanks DLD!
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Wow, you are all over the place! No wonder gains have been inconsistent the routines have been inconsistent. Now, we have identified the problem we need to make some changes to create a routine that will be gainful and safe.

The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] Basic Stretches are always a staple in most mens routine weather they are doing them manually or with a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words]. These stretches hit every possible angle and leave no stone unturned. Using proper intensity this set of stretches will bring good length gains. I also suggest that there be Expressive and Bundled Stretches in your routine, these while bring gains from another angle. Then there is erect stretching which is used to sure up new gains. Then we need to get into girth work...Do you have the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words]? Do you have any other equipment other the the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words]? If so let me know so when I write your routine they can be included. Another question is time and privacy, do you have good access to this? Lastly, read through the 1st post in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] and really take it to heart, in that reading you will find many details that I will be including in your new routine so I want you to be familiar with those things. looking forward to your response and creating your routine.
 
doublelongdaddy;699427 said:
Wow, you are all over the place! No wonder gains have been inconsistent the routines have been inconsistent. Now, we have identified the problem we need to make some changes to create a routine that will be gainful and safe.

The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] Basic Stretches are always a staple in most mens routine weather they are doing them manually or with a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words]. These stretches hit every possible angle and leave no stone unturned. Using proper intensity this set of stretches will bring good length gains. I also suggest that there be Expressive and Bundled Stretches in your routine, these while bring gains from another angle. Then there is erect stretching which is used to sure up new gains. Then we need to get into girth work...Do you have the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words]? Do you have any other equipment other the the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words]? If so let me know so when I write your routine they can be included. Another question is time and privacy, do you have good access to this? Lastly, read through the 1st post in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] and really take it to heart, in that reading you will find many details that I will be including in your new routine so I want you to be familiar with those things. looking forward to your response and creating your routine.
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The only equipment that I have is my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], my homemade [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words], and an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words]. I do not have money at this point in time for a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] or a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] but when I do get the money I may get a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words]. I have a decent amount of time at the moment, for the most part I either have all morning or all night, but in 2 weeks I am going to my camp where I will have no privacy besides really early in the morning (around 7/8am) and later on at night (around 9pm).
 
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eugine8plz;699474 said:
The only equipment that I have is my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], my homemade [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words], and an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words]. I do not have money at this point in time for a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] or a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] but when I do get the money I may get a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words]. I have a decent amount of time at the moment, for the most part I either have all morning or all night, but in 2 weeks I am going to my camp where I will have no privacy besides really early in the morning (around 7/8am) and later on at night (around 9pm).
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The routine you laid out was excellent but now seeing the equipment you do have I will suggest something more. When not training use your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] as much as possible. 30-60 minutes at a time, take off, get good circulation back and go for another set. This will be the icing on the length cake you have created. When you do get additional equipment we can redo your routine at that point. But what I saw in your new routine, plus the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] you are looking good.

Girth I am assuming will wait until length gains have been made?
 
doublelongdaddy;699500 said:
The routine you laid out was excellent but now seeing the equipment you do have I will suggest something more. When not training use your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] as much as possible. 30-60 minutes at a time, take off, get good circulation back and go for another set. This will be the icing on the length cake you have created. When you do get additional equipment we can redo your routine at that point. But what I saw in your new routine, plus the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] you are looking good.

Girth I am assuming will wait until length gains have been made?
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I would like to start training girth but my damn thrombosis vein still hasn't gone away, it is starting to diminish but it is still there, I would give it a couple more weeks until it's gone.

And ok cool I'm glad to hear that my routine isn't bad! And yes, whenever I am just hanging out at home I make sure that I am wearing either my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] or my homemade [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] (works very well so far).

I think I am going to add erect stretches a couple times a week for 5 minutes or so per session, possibly an extra round of all angles stretches and maybe so a-stretches as well. I am also going to start kegeling during my bundles to help fatigue the PC muscles for he rest of my routine and I am going to start doing AT LEAST 500 kegels a day, because my erections Havnt been very strong lately.
 
eugine8plz;699474 said:
The only equipment that I have is my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], my homemade [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words], and an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words]. I do not have money at this point in time for a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] or a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] but when I do get the money I may get a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words]. I have a decent amount of time at the moment, for the most part I either have all morning or all night, but in 2 weeks I am going to my camp where I will have no privacy besides really early in the morning (around 7/8am) and later on at night (around 9pm).
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Have you thought about increasing your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] hours for 3+ or doing intervals throughout the day?
 
kyomoto;699568 said:
Have you thought about increasing your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] hours for 3+ or doing intervals throughout the day?
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I am usually out and about for most of the day so I usually can't wear it out of the house because it is hard to maneuver in. I wear it whenever I can lol. I made a homeade [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] that I can manuever in easily and I like it a lot!! I will be starting to wear that while I'm on the go from now on.
 
eugine8plz;699571 said:
I am usually out and about for most of the day so I usually can't wear it out of the house because it is hard to maneuver in. I wear it whenever I can lol. I made a homeade [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] that I can manuever in easily and I like it a lot!! I will be starting to wear that while I'm on the go from now on.
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Oh okay sounds good, keep it up
 
Munto;699586 said:
How did you make it?
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I searched it up on google and I found it on a different pe website. It pretty much just consists of a dog collar or anything else that can be used to wrap around your leg, a bungee cord, a wrap to wrap your dick with and a cable clamp. You wrap the wrap around your dick, put the clamp on lightly, feed the bungee cord through the loop in the dog collar then hook the 2 ends of the cord onto the clamp and then put the dog collar around your leg and BOOM! You're tugging! The only downside is that you lose blood flow fairly quickly (30 min-1 hour)
 
I think you should go all length for now and this should really help condition things. As you get close to your length goal you can take up girth work.
 
doublelongdaddy;699626 said:
I think you should go all length for now and this should really help condition things. As you get close to your length goal you can take up girth work.
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Yes DLD that is what I am thinking as well. I think I may start doing girth in about 3-4 months or so, by then I will have reached my short term goal and the girth work will aid on reaching my next goal.
 
eugine8plz;699693 said:
Yes DLD that is what I am thinking as well. I think I may start doing girth in about 3-4 months or so, by then I will have reached my short term goal and the girth work will aid on reaching my next goal.
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But still do bundles even if they're girth exercise, they will help a lot
 
eugine8plz;699221 said:
So since September 2015 I have gained about a total of .2"... I stretched everyday, used the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] almost every day for at least 3 hours and now I've been using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] on and off for about 4 months now (it's hard to wear it at work, in total I have probably logged around 80-100 hours so far in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]). It sucks that I can't wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] a lot because I know that it would help out a lot more then just the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words].
If you have limited time just do hanging X heavier weights. Buy a hanger and get in one hour a day. You'll gain. I haven't seen too many guys not gain hanging.

They'll say it's not a beginner exercise. It was for me. Caused no ill effects except discoloration....and growth,

I have made a homeade [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] that works very well and is pretty easy to maneuver around in. It tugs very well and is quite comfy.

If anyone can give me any tips on what to do that would be awesome. I just want to see me grow up that ruler. Thanks bros!
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Im terrified of this happening to me. If i did a solid routine for 10 months and gained nothing I would quit for sure :/
Hope things improve for you dude
 
sceptic;701097 said:
Im terrified of this happening to me. If i did a solid routine for 10 months and gained nothing I would quit for sure :/
Hope things improve for you dude
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If you work hard you will gain. And after those initial noob gains you cannot gain from half assing it. As far as 10 months and no gains I wouldn't cry about it, the only time limit is one day you will die. Other than that keep working for what you want and never give up.
 
eugine8plz, I feel ya man. I had no newbie gains and was sidetracked by thrombosis for a while. My first gains came after a year and half. This month marks 2 years of PE for me and I've gained 1/4" in girth and 1/4" in NBEL. It's been a lot of hard work, but I'm glad I did it! My girth increase has come over the last 2 months where I've been focused primarily on girth. I'm 1/16" away from 5 1/4" MSEG, at which point I will go to maintenance on girth and focus on length for a while. If you haven't seen this thread check out how I healed my thrombosis.http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/boo-boo-s-and-band-aids-safety-in-penis-enlargement/87211-wow-natural-option-for-thrombosed-vein.html
I've realized in the length work, on both manual and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words], that I need pull much closer to the base. I've been pulling too close to my head for years(!) and it's too painful to pull with sufficient force to get the tissues to change. Some people, like you and I, probably take a lot of force to get change.
I suggest you clear your mind, get as Zen as you can, and reevaluate your techniques. You've really got to pull your cock out! Find a way to put some serious force on it!
I've found the drumstick stretches helpful. I wrap two drumsticks in theraband, for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words], then compress my penis between them and pull. That is a serious ligament stretch and it's cheap equipment, like $20! The drumstick stretch I think is what brought my first length gains.
Even the relatively small gains I've had have helped my confidence. I was perfectly average in penis size when I started, and now I'm almost 6.25x5.25 and I can feel that soon I will be ABOVE AVERAGE! That's pretty damn exciting! You can do it man! Good luck!
 
FireDragonLeo;701108 said:
eugine8plz, I feel ya man. I had no newbie gains and was sidetracked by thrombosis for a while. My first gains came after a year and half. This month marks 2 years of PE for me and I've gained 1/4" in girth and 1/4" in NBEL. It's been a lot of hard work, but I'm glad I did it! My girth increase has come over the last 2 months where I've been focused primarily on girth. I'm 1/16" away from 5 1/4" MSEG, at which point I will go to maintenance on girth and focus on length for a while. If you haven't seen this thread check out how I healed my thrombosis.http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/boo-boo-s-and-band-aids-safety-in-penis-enlargement/87211-wow-natural-option-for-thrombosed-vein.html
I've realized in the length work, on both manual and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words], that I need pull much closer to the base. I've been pulling too close to my head for years(!) and it's too painful to pull with sufficient force to get the tissues to change. Some people, like you and I, probably take a lot of force to get change.
I suggest you clear your mind, get as Zen as you can, and reevaluate your techniques. You've really got to pull your cock out! Find a way to put some serious force on it!
I've found the drumstick stretches helpful. I wrap two drumsticks in theraband, for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words], then compress my penis between them and pull. That is a serious ligament stretch and it's cheap equipment, like $20! The drumstick stretch I think is what brought my first length gains.
Even the relatively small gains I've had have helped my confidence. I was perfectly average in penis size when I started, and now I'm almost 6.25x5.25 and I can feel that soon I will be ABOVE AVERAGE! That's pretty damn exciting! You can do it man! Good luck!
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Good stuff Fire!
 
kyomoto;699412 said:
Would you like to take a look at my thread that i made when doing my routine to gain 1+ inches
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hey sorry kyomoto I thought that I answered you when you said this to me but I guess I didn't. but yes could you show me what you did to gain your first inch please bro?!
 
FireDragonLeo;701108 said:
eugine8plz, I feel ya man. I had no newbie gains and was sidetracked by thrombosis for a while. My first gains came after a year and half. This month marks 2 years of PE for me and I've gained 1/4" in girth and 1/4" in NBEL. It's been a lot of hard work, but I'm glad I did it! My girth increase has come over the last 2 months where I've been focused primarily on girth. I'm 1/16" away from 5 1/4" MSEG, at which point I will go to maintenance on girth and focus on length for a while. If you haven't seen this thread check out how I healed my thrombosis.http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/boo-boo-s-and-band-aids-safety-in-penis-enlargement/87211-wow-natural-option-for-thrombosed-vein.html
I've realized in the length work, on both manual and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words], that I need pull much closer to the base. I've been pulling too close to my head for years(!) and it's too painful to pull with sufficient force to get the tissues to change. Some people, like you and I, probably take a lot of force to get change.
I suggest you clear your mind, get as Zen as you can, and reevaluate your techniques. You've really got to pull your cock out! Find a way to put some serious force on it!
I've found the drumstick stretches helpful. I wrap two drumsticks in theraband, for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words], then compress my penis between them and pull. That is a serious ligament stretch and it's cheap equipment, like $20! The drumstick stretch I think is what brought my first length gains.
Even the relatively small gains I've had have helped my confidence. I was perfectly average in penis size when I started, and now I'm almost 6.25x5.25 and I can feel that soon I will be ABOVE AVERAGE! That's pretty damn exciting! You can do it man! Good luck!
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thanks Leo I appreciate the comment!! I just have a few questions if you don't mind..

1) do you have to use both of the enzymes to get rid of the thrombosis vein or can you just use either the serragold or natoK?

2) to gain in length you did manual stretches just from near the base of the penis? what about the shaft gains?

3) could you please post a pic of the drumstick theraband combo that you made so that I can make it myself?

thanks a ton bro!
 
eugine8plz;701400 said:
thanks leo i appreciate the comment!! I just have a few questions if you don't mind..

1) do you have to use both of the enzymes to get rid of the thrombosis vein or can you just use either the serragold or natok?

2) to gain in length you did manual stretches just from near the base of the penis? What about the shaft gains?

3) could you please post a pic of the drumstick theraband combo that you made so that i can make it myself?

Thanks a ton bro!
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bump
 
eugine8plz;701399 said:
hey sorry kyomoto I thought that I answered you when you said this to me but I guess I didn't. but yes could you show me what you did to gain your first inch please bro?!
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My first inch came from this:
Jelq 15 minutes (flaccid)
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] stretch routine ( i didnt do this exactly, i only did left up right down, but do all angles it works better)

Follow this in order-

At month 1-3 (1 day on 1 day off):
Jelq 15 minutes
Hold each stretch in every angle hard for 30 seconds

At month 5 (2day on 1 day off/ OR 3 day on 1 day off):
(stopped jelqing and focused on length)
Hold each stretch in every angle hard for 1 minute

At month 6-11 (5 day on 2 day off/ OR 6 days on 1 day off/ OR every day):
1)Erect stretch 5 minutes ( move up to 10 minutes when you can handle it)
2)Mandingo stretch 5 minutes (move up to 10 minutes when you feel you can handle it)

^^^Those two will loosen up everything making it easier to stretch (in my opinion)

3)Hold each stretch in every angle hard for 1 minute 30 seconds OR 2 minutes
4)Side to Side routine (https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-enlargement-forum/20379-advanced-jelq-free-routine.html) *Just the stretching portion*
5) Bundled stretching 1 minute every angle

Once you've done that do the same routine in month 6-11 but for the normal stretching add another round or set. So 1 set is stretching up, down, left right or whatever. That's 1 round, after you advance do 2 rounds so you repeat everything twice only for the normal stretching, not the mandingo or erect or side to side or bundles.

Sorry I took long to answer.

At months 1-6 I gained 1 inch, then 6-11 i gained another inch. I hope this help. AND PLEASE, with every stretch, stretch as hard as possible. If you need grip, use a soft towel, maybe those powder gloves, or something.
Also pleas experiment on different exercises feel free to substitute exercises with another one. And let us know if it hurts or something.
 
kyomoto;701476 said:
My first inch came from this:
Jelq 15 minutes (flaccid)
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] stretch routine ( i didnt do this exactly, i only did left up right down, but do all angles it works better)

Follow this in order-

At month 1-3 (1 day on 1 day off):
Jelq 15 minutes
Hold each stretch in every angle hard for 30 seconds

At month 5 (2day on 1 day off/ OR 3 day on 1 day off):
(stopped jelqing and focused on length)
Hold each stretch in every angle hard for 1 minute

At month 6-11 (5 day on 2 day off/ OR 6 days on 1 day off/ OR every day):
1)Erect stretch 5 minutes ( move up to 10 minutes when you can handle it)
2)Mandingo stretch 5 minutes (move up to 10 minutes when you feel you can handle it)

^^^Those two will loosen up everything making it easier to stretch (in my opinion)

3)Hold each stretch in every angle hard for 1 minute 30 seconds OR 2 minutes
4)Side to Side routine (https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-enlargement-forum/20379-advanced-jelq-free-routine.html) *Just the stretching portion*
5) Bundled stretching 1 minute every angle

Once you've done that do the same routine in month 6-11 but for the normal stretching add another round or set. So 1 set is stretching up, down, left right or whatever. That's 1 round, after you advance do 2 rounds so you repeat everything twice only for the normal stretching, not the mandingo or erect or side to side or bundles.

Sorry I took long to answer.

At months 1-6 I gained 1 inch, then 6-11 i gained another inch. I hope this help. AND PLEASE, with every stretch, stretch as hard as possible. If you need grip, use a soft towel, maybe those powder gloves, or something.
Also pleas experiment on different exercises feel free to substitute exercises with another one. And let us know if it hurts or something.
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Awesome! Thanks for getting that BUMP!
 
eugine8plz;701400 said:
thanks Leo I appreciate the comment!! I just have a few questions if you don't mind..

1) do you have to use both of the enzymes to get rid of the thrombosis vein or can you just use either the serragold or natoK?

2) to gain in length you did manual stretches just from near the base of the penis? what about the shaft gains?

3) could you please post a pic of the drumstick theraband combo that you made so that I can make it myself?

thanks a ton bro!
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Hope my answer helps you
 
kyomoto;701539 said:
Hope my answer helps you
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Yes Kyomoto this helped a lot thank you brother, i just have 2 questions for you.

1) so for the first 11 months i am doing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] stretches (all directions) for only 1 set?

2) I have been doing PE for a year now so i am not really a noobie anyone, so would the 1 day on 1 day of routine for the first 3 months not have as much as an affect as say doing 3 on 1 off or even everyday?

Thanks again bro!!!
 
eugine8plz;701543 said:
Yes Kyomoto this helped a lot thank you brother, i just have 2 questions for you.

1) so for the first 11 months i am doing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] stretches (all directions) for only 1 set?

2) I have been doing PE for a year now so i am not really a noobie anyone, so would the 1 day on 1 day of routine for the first 3 months not have as much as an affect as say doing 3 on 1 off or even everyday?

Thanks again bro!!!
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1)When did you start, you said over a year, do 3 sets of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] stretches, pull each as hard as you can, it'll get tiring but the gains will come.
2) The thing is if you're already 1 year into PE you should be doing 6 days on 1 day off/ OR no days off
 
I used both enzyme products, just to be thorough, if you use only 1 go with the Natto-K. I have been doing different kinds of stretches with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words]. But I was using it pretty close to the head. I noticed some length gains after doing the drumstick stretch mostly right at the base of the shaft. Thus I surmise that I was not getting enough force with my other stretches because I was pulling too close to the head and causing pain. I've gained just over 1/4" erect length, and about 1/2" flaccid length. I can't really say where exactly it came from in terms of internal versus shaft.
I'll post a pic of the drumstick stretch later when I have the time. But for now, I just wrap the drumsticks with a small piece of theraband in the middle of the drumstick. This helps to grab the shaft. Then I compress my shaft, one stick on top, one on bottom. Then I pull in various directions. It's a killer ligament stretch. I do it in various places, from the extreme base to further up the shaft.
 
FireDragonLeo;701553 said:
I used both enzyme products, just to be thorough, if you use only 1 go with the Natto-K. I have been doing different kinds of stretches with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words]. But I was using it pretty close to the head. I noticed some length gains after doing the drumstick stretch mostly right at the base of the shaft. Thus I surmise that I was not getting enough force with my other stretches because I was pulling too close to the head and causing pain. I've gained just over 1/4" erect length, and about 1/2" flaccid length. I can't really say where exactly it came from in terms of internal versus shaft.
I'll post a pic of the drumstick stretch later when I have the time. But for now, I just wrap the drumsticks with a small piece of theraband in the middle of the drumstick. This helps to grab the shaft. Then I compress my shaft, one stick on top, one on bottom. Then I pull in various directions. It's a killer ligament stretch. I do it in various places, from the extreme base to further up the shaft.
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Great advice! Thanks my Brother.
 
kyomoto;701551 said:
1)When did you start, you said over a year, do 3 sets of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] stretches, pull each as hard as you can, it'll get tiring but the gains will come.
2) The thing is if you're already 1 year into PE you should be doing 6 days on 1 day off/ OR no days off
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alright I'll do that. I am also adding 100 side to side stretches right now to my routine and I will also be adding 50 extra side to sides each week
 
eugine8plz;701648 said:
alright I'll do that. I am also adding 100 side to side stretches right now to my routine and I will also be adding 50 extra side to sides each week
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Good. You need to start hitting every part and ligaments are important to hit. By doing the side to side ones you're hitting the ligaments at an angle, always do left and right for basic stretching too.
 
eugine8plz;701648 said:
alright I'll do that. I am also adding 100 side to side stretches right now to my routine and I will also be adding 50 extra side to sides each week
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With manual stretching it is vital that you hit every conceivable angle, even if you feel no intensity (like upward stretches) still, hit every angle because missing one could be a miss in gains.
 
I was thinking of just using two sticks that aren't too asymmetrical to do some modified stretching. I see you're using the band and im going to guess it's working for you.
 
kyomoto;699289 said:
Are you stretching to a point where its using all your strength? If you're not then you should. But if you are add more time/duration to each stretch. Increase your 30 second stretch to 1 minute (this is an example) Also try mandingo and erect stretching they are killer if you aren't already doing it.
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This!

I found that increasing the original 30 seconds to 45 seconds helped me a ton. Also I personally ONLY do bundled work now, and I stretch at maximum strength. Tires me the fuck out, but I still make gains. I have however been off due to injury and also trying to regain some sensitivity in my glans (I am cut, and PE also affected this) I also used the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Length Master[/words] for quite some time, and once I got the wrapping down I really loved how intense the stretches were. Had to lay off it though, glans got discolored as fuck, decided it wasn't worth it. Only doing manual work now.
 
kyomoto: I was thinking of just using two sticks that aren't too asymmetrical to do some modified stretching. I see you're using the band and im going to guess it's working for you.
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The theraband gives good [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words]. I can really stretch hard. It's a different feeling than the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Lengthmaster[/words], but I can take it past my pain tolerance level with the drumstick stretch too.
 
kyomoto;701877 said:
I was thinking of just using two sticks that aren't too asymmetrical to do some modified stretching. I see you're using the band and im going to guess it's working for you.
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Agree. But for straight out work it has real potential.
 
doublelongdaddy;701935 said:
Agree. But for straight out work it has real potential.
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I'll try and sneak some stuff from my parents lol. They already know about my PE but i'm embarassed.
 
kyomoto;701961 said:
I'll try and sneak some stuff from my parents lol. They already know about my PE but i'm embarassed.
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wow thats great but what do they say think about your strange""hobbie""
 
LONGERDICK7+;701963 said:
wow thats great but what do they say think about your strange""hobbie""
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they tell me i'll hurt myself lol, i told them not to worry, my mom is the one who worries, they actually make fun of me for trying to grow they say my dick will explode or some shit
 
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