over the years of drunk conversations with my mates the aspect of 'size' comes up sometimes. its strange that most of my mates are actually 'big' ranging between 7 and 8 inches (im assuming bp measurements). im sure this is truth also. my question is that if so many guys are big then how is the average 5.5 - 6.5? do you think average is getting bigger? and its not just random its actually 8 guys i know of all fall into this category...
 
EVO said:
over the years of drunk conversations with my mates the aspect of 'size' comes up sometimes. its strange that most of my mates are actually 'big' ranging between 7 and 8 inches (im assuming bp measurements). im sure this is truth also. my question is that if so many guys are big then how is the average 5.5 - 6.5? do you think average is getting bigger? and its not just random its actually 8 guys i know of all fall into this category...
The actually show you their erect dick? I've always lied by about a 1 inch factor. Just being honest.
 
well no. lol. but i dont understand why someone would lie, if asked i always say the truth - itll only get back to you if you dont imo.
 
Yeah dude unless you actually saw their dicks, I would take it with a grain of salt. I knew a guy who seemed utterly convinced that he was 8.5 inches in High School. A girl I was kinda friends with did some messing around w/ him, and said he was one of the smallest she has ever seen. Yet at the cafeteria he seemed even willing to pull it out to prove it to the people at the table. So, let us know exactly how you know their being honest.
 
Most men lie about there size,every bloke i no who has ever mentioned dick size has said they are 8 inches or more,its an ego thing,lets be honest if a group of mates started talking about the size of there dicks and one of them said i'm 5 inches hard the rest would take the piss.
 
Yeah consider, your all talking about penis size. One guy says "yeah I'm 7 inches long". Whether he really has one that long or not, now the rest of the table think to themselves "I'm not near that big for real", or "I'm not quite that big when I measured". So as you go down the line after that one guy, considering how competitive male friends can be. They all have to live up to or surpass that guy's 7 incher. Thus everyone at the table is magically 7 to 8 inches. No one claims 9 or 10, because surely if they were that big the town gossip sluts would have circulated that information all around so it would be a known fact that so and so has a monster in his pants. But 7 or 8 inches, at least in their inflated view of penis size, is a safe number to claim to not be too obvious, but also measure up to friend #1 who may or may not really have a 7 inch penis. Likelyhood of this doubles or triples if there are ANY females present.
 
ya exactly

guys lie about dick size like nothing else.

Here's an interesting story.

this past new years, a group of us went to montreal (even though I still checked [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] from my laptop, lol how could I ever leave you guys. I'm an addict <:( ). when I say a group I mean a total of two nearly full 55 person buses. It started with 17 of the boys, then some of the guys brought their gfs and their friends came and before we knew it we had around 90 ppl and we were happy since the higher the # of people the cheaper the individual costs from the package we were getting.

Anyways, we were there on the 28th, 29th, 30th, 31st, 1st, and 2nd we came back the night before new years. The most intersting thing happened on the 29th. Everyone was drunk outta their ass and by then we'd all hooked up with at least one or two gurls from the friends of the friends of the friends. It was a very interesting setting cause everyone was almost constantly drunk, and at ease since everyone somehow knew of eachother. not to mention a couple of the floors were exclusively ours. so the rooms doors were almost always open. we were passing by one of the rooms and saw alotta ppl there, so we went in and saw a 'spin the bottle truth/dare' match. up came the dare and one gurl was like ok every guy should say how big he is and no lies'. you wouldn't believe EVERYGUY was above 7.5 and 8 and a couple of guys said 9 and the girls they'd fucked the night before varified them 'omg he's HUGE'. so i was like 'wtfff? I've been Penis Enlargement'ing for all this time and with 7.5 x 6 1/8 I still fall in the lower portion of this group.:O ' and I couldn't think otherwise cause the girls were confirming the guys ' uh huh he's HUGEEE' .. So when it came to me to answer I'm like I'm 8.5. no fucken way am I gonna be on the lower portion of the list. ofcourse I had more than a couple of girls that confirmed 'omg he's hugee' so I passed as well.

the game went on and the alcohol percentages in the girls systems rose. most of guys were still ok, since we all knew if we were to get too drunk there was a good chance we wouldn't get laid, and we wanted our units functioning. so the dare came to a guy and he's like Every girl should take off her bra so we can see their actual non padded tit size. After alotta grunting and a couple of more shots they did, and one note here, if guys gave girls shit about boob size like they do to us about dick size, 95% of the girls should go jump of buildings. out of the 30 girls there, maybe 2 had nice tits, the rest were small and not only small, UGLY TOO. There was anything ranging from banana tits to eggplant looking ones to the ones who's nipple was bigger than their actual breasts. But they were to drunk to notice, and the guys were just happy they got to see some tits and cheering them on.

as a retaliation the next dare that got to the girls was 'show us ur dicks HARD so we can measure you'. I was like FUCKKK now im gonna get called and im gonna look like an idiot. Some of the guys were extremely enthusiastic about this which worried me all the more, while other guys were more reserved but none of us could say no cause the second you'd deny it it would mean that you'd lied in the earlier question and you have a small dick.

so all the guys lined up w their girls fooling around till their name was called to the 'measuring' desk. It was aggreed that your girl or whoever u were fooling around iwht would give you head until you got hard and the girls would measure you while sitting. Since we were all a lil drunk we didn't have any anxiety about getting hard, and what was happening was something close to the spring break videos I'd seen on TV except there were no cameras, and alotta girls were trying to be extra wild since they hadnt ever been 'wild' before, as if they were trying to prove themselves. As we all took our pants off I noticed I had a good flacid hang over most of the boys but a couple were clearly longer than me flacid. As The measuring went on and I got to see the guys errect, the same guys who seemed bigger than me flacid were MUCH smaller than me errect. what was more was that the measurements were done while sitting from the side/under of the penis. most guys measured 7-8 inches, while I measured 9.5. not to mention I had at LEAST an inch of girth on any of the guys there. They all had dicks resembling my pre-Penis Enlargement penis, where as my post-Penis Enlargement COCK embarressed all of them. So if correct bp erect length measurements from the top of the penis were taken, I doubt any of them would've been bigger than 6.5.

It occured to me, that most of these guys weren't 'lying' per-se like I was about being 8.5 (while some clearly were lying). I damn well KNEW I wasn't 8.5 and I just said I was because of what everyone else was saying and my EGO wasn't letting me be less. But these guys actually measure their dicks from their ass (from the bottom or side), and its a circle of lies; a 5 incher tells his gf he's 7 so when she sees a 6 incher she insists that her xbf was 7 and that he's an inch bigger than him. ofcourse not many guys will say 'no your xbf was 5 and I'm 6, they'll just be happy w the size they've acclaimed. This summer I met a girl that specifically wanted to have sex with me cause she heard I was 10 inches from one of her friends that I had had sex with.

Have no doubt that if you are above 6.5 you're BIG to most girls. What makes you look HUGE is mostly a combination of you're girth and length. So every millimeter that you're gaining through Penis Enlargement is making you a amongst an increasingly smaller number of people who are at that size.

Don't ever believe a word guys say about their size to other guys or to girls. I'm at a size (you guys have seen my pictures) where no girl can ever call me small, I'm BIG, and I STILL lied about my size let alone those who feel the NEED to lie about their size.

anyways, that was the story and moral of it is to keep at it and don't get discouraged if you 'hear' things about guys dicks. Very few guys are actually 'born' with it.
 
this is what i gathered about people who do penis enlargment, you think anyone who has a naturally big dick is either two things....A Penis Enlargement'er......or a liar. Its fuckin ridiculous. Your friends probly all just have 7 or 8 inch dicks......... just a coincedence. that really isnt so big its hard to belive. & inches is average...6 to 7 is avergae...anything lower is smal, and anything above 8 is big.......9 and up is huge. Bottom line is this, 99.9 percent of guys who have big dicks.....were born that way.
 
desiel_dick said:
this is what i gathered about people who do penis enlargment, you think anyone who has a naturally big dick is either two things....A Penis Enlargement'er......or a liar. Its fuckin ridiculous. Your friends probly all just have 7 or 8 inch dicks......... just a coincedence. that really isnt so big its hard to belive. & inches is average...6 to 7 is avergae...anything lower is smal, and anything above 8 is big.......9 and up is huge. Bottom line is this, 99.9 percent of guys who have big dicks.....were born that way.

And the reason for that little rant was?

Of course there are alot of naturally big cocks out there no ones denying that BUT the chances of a group of mates all being above average doesn't happen,it must be a coincedence that all my mates claim to be 8 inches as well despite the fact that the average is 5.5-6,you will never hear a bloke admit to having a small cock in front of a group of other blokes,it would be suicide they would get mocked to death.
 
prince Albert said:
And the reason for that little rant was?

Of course there are alot of naturally big cocks out there no ones denying that BUT the chances of a group of mates all being above average doesn't happen,it must be a coincedence that all my mates claim to be 8 inches as well despite the fact that the average is 5.5-6,you will never hear a bloke admit to having a small cock in front of a group of other blokes,it would be suicide they would get mocked to death.
it wasent a rant. i am twice the size of mt friend...he admitted when he is hard its 4 inches..so not eryone lies...only liars lie
 
Dude Vaseline Knight what was the reaction from everyone when you measured 9.5 inches???????!!!

diesel dick every friend I have claims to be above 7 inches as well, almost 100% of guys lie about their dick. it's just how it is. but I would agree with you, the 10% or whatever that are 7+ inches were 99% born that way, NOT from P.E.
 
prince Albert said:
And the reason for that little rant was?

Of course there are alot of naturally big cocks out there no ones denying that BUT the chances of a group of mates all being above average doesn't happen,it must be a coincedence that all my mates claim to be 8 inches as well despite the fact that the average is 5.5-6,you will never hear a bloke admit to having a small cock in front of a group of other blokes,it would be suicide they would get mocked to death.


It was DEFINATELY a rant which I wish to ignore. Some guys may be 'big' without Penis Enlargement, but that consititutes a very small percentage. DD, I would reconsider boasting about your 'natural' size here if you have no pictures to prove it. From the way you're ranting I could swear you're 6 inches max, as a guy who's 'packing' doesn't talk about size like this, unless he's got a couple of screws loose.

And Drivernuts

Reaction was just a chaotic cheer with some of my friends yelling as jokes 'LIESS THIS HAS BEEN FIXED LIKE THE FLORIDA VOTE COUNT, THE RULER LIES HE'S ONLY 4'

you must understand it was a very friendly atmosphere not hostile like some Penis Enlargement forums doubting eachothers sizes. there was one guy there, he was short like maybe 6 tops but I coulda sworn he was at 7.5 girth. it looked fucked, and we call him MISTA TUNA now. cuz his dick looks like a tuna can
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
ya exactly

guys lie about dick size like nothing else.

Here's an interesting story.

this past new years, a group of us went to montreal (even though I still checked [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] from my laptop, lol how could I ever leave you guys. I'm an addict <:( ). when I say a group I mean a total of two nearly full 55 person buses. It started with 17 of the boys, then some of the guys brought their gfs and their friends came and before we knew it we had around 90 ppl and we were happy since the higher the # of people the cheaper the individual costs from the package we were getting.

Anyways, we were there on the 28th, 29th, 30th, 31st, 1st, and 2nd we came back the night before new years. The most intersting thing happened on the 29th. Everyone was drunk outta their ass and by then we'd all hooked up with at least one or two gurls from the friends of the friends of the friends. It was a very interesting setting cause everyone was almost constantly drunk, and at ease since everyone somehow knew of eachother. not to mention a couple of the floors were exclusively ours. so the rooms doors were almost always open. we were passing by one of the rooms and saw alotta ppl there, so we went in and saw a 'spin the bottle truth/dare' match. up came the dare and one gurl was like ok every guy should say how big he is and no lies'. you wouldn't believe EVERYGUY was above 7.5 and 8 and a couple of guys said 9 and the girls they'd fucked the night before varified them 'omg he's HUGE'. so i was like 'wtfff? I've been Penis Enlargement'ing for all this time and with 7.5 x 6 1/8 I still fall in the lower portion of this group.:O ' and I couldn't think otherwise cause the girls were confirming the guys ' uh huh he's HUGEEE' .. So when it came to me to answer I'm like I'm 8.5. no fucken way am I gonna be on the lower portion of the list. ofcourse I had more than a couple of girls that confirmed 'omg he's hugee' so I passed as well.

the game went on and the alcohol percentages in the girls systems rose. most of guys were still ok, since we all knew if we were to get too drunk there was a good chance we wouldn't get laid, and we wanted our units functioning. so the dare came to a guy and he's like Every girl should take off her bra so we can see their actual non padded tit size. After alotta grunting and a couple of more shots they did, and one note here, if guys gave girls shit about boob size like they do to us about dick size, 95% of the girls should go jump of buildings. out of the 30 girls there, maybe 2 had nice tits, the rest were small and not only small, UGLY TOO. There was anything ranging from banana tits to eggplant looking ones to the ones who's nipple was bigger than their actual breasts. But they were to drunk to notice, and the guys were just happy they got to see some tits and cheering them on.

as a retaliation the next dare that got to the girls was 'show us ur dicks HARD so we can measure you'. I was like FUCKKK now im gonna get called and im gonna look like an idiot. Some of the guys were extremely enthusiastic about this which worried me all the more, while other guys were more reserved but none of us could say no cause the second you'd deny it it would mean that you'd lied in the earlier question and you have a small dick.

so all the guys lined up w their girls fooling around till their name was called to the 'measuring' desk. It was aggreed that your girl or whoever u were fooling around iwht would give you head until you got hard and the girls would measure you while sitting. Since we were all a lil drunk we didn't have any anxiety about getting hard, and what was happening was something close to the spring break videos I'd seen on TV except there were no cameras, and alotta girls were trying to be extra wild since they hadnt ever been 'wild' before, as if they were trying to prove themselves. As we all took our pants off I noticed I had a good flacid hang over most of the boys but a couple were clearly longer than me flacid. As The measuring went on and I got to see the guys errect, the same guys who seemed bigger than me flacid were MUCH smaller than me errect. what was more was that the measurements were done while sitting from the side/under of the penis. most guys measured 7-8 inches, while I measured 9.5. not to mention I had at LEAST an inch of girth on any of the guys there. They all had dicks resembling my pre-Penis Enlargement penis, where as my post-Penis Enlargement COCK embarressed all of them. So if correct bp erect length measurements from the top of the penis were taken, I doubt any of them would've been bigger than 6.5.

It occured to me, that most of these guys weren't 'lying' per-se like I was about being 8.5 (while some clearly were lying). I damn well KNEW I wasn't 8.5 and I just said I was because of what everyone else was saying and my EGO wasn't letting me be less. But these guys actually measure their dicks from their ass (from the bottom or side), and its a circle of lies; a 5 incher tells his gf he's 7 so when she sees a 6 incher she insists that her xbf was 7 and that he's an inch bigger than him. ofcourse not many guys will say 'no your xbf was 5 and I'm 6, they'll just be happy w the size they've acclaimed. This summer I met a girl that specifically wanted to have sex with me cause she heard I was 10 inches from one of her friends that I had had sex with.

Have no doubt that if you are above 6.5 you're BIG to most girls. What makes you look HUGE is mostly a combination of you're girth and length. So every millimeter that you're gaining through Penis Enlargement is making you a amongst an increasingly smaller number of people who are at that size.

Don't ever believe a word guys say about their size to other guys or to girls. I'm at a size (you guys have seen my pictures) where no girl can ever call me small, I'm BIG, and I STILL lied about my size let alone those who feel the NEED to lie about their size.

anyways, that was the story and moral of it is to keep at it and don't get discouraged if you 'hear' things about guys dicks. Very few guys are actually 'born' with it.



cool story!! kinda puts things into perspective. i know its possible for people to be the size they claim, but whether it is an exaggerated measurement or a 'real' measurement i have yet to find.... lol
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
ya exactly

guys lie about dick size like nothing else.

Here's an interesting story.

this past new years, a group of us went to montreal (even though I still checked [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] from my laptop, lol how could I ever leave you guys. I'm an addict <:( ). when I say a group I mean a total of two nearly full 55 person buses. It started with 17 of the boys, then some of the guys brought their gfs and their friends came and before we knew it we had around 90 ppl and we were happy since the higher the # of people the cheaper the individual costs from the package we were getting.

Anyways, we were there on the 28th, 29th, 30th, 31st, 1st, and 2nd we came back the night before new years. The most intersting thing happened on the 29th. Everyone was drunk outta their ass and by then we'd all hooked up with at least one or two gurls from the friends of the friends of the friends. It was a very interesting setting cause everyone was almost constantly drunk, and at ease since everyone somehow knew of eachother. not to mention a couple of the floors were exclusively ours. so the rooms doors were almost always open. we were passing by one of the rooms and saw alotta ppl there, so we went in and saw a 'spin the bottle truth/dare' match. up came the dare and one gurl was like ok every guy should say how big he is and no lies'. you wouldn't believe EVERYGUY was above 7.5 and 8 and a couple of guys said 9 and the girls they'd fucked the night before varified them 'omg he's HUGE'. so i was like 'wtfff? I've been Penis Enlargement'ing for all this time and with 7.5 x 6 1/8 I still fall in the lower portion of this group.:O ' and I couldn't think otherwise cause the girls were confirming the guys ' uh huh he's HUGEEE' .. So when it came to me to answer I'm like I'm 8.5. no fucken way am I gonna be on the lower portion of the list. ofcourse I had more than a couple of girls that confirmed 'omg he's hugee' so I passed as well.

the game went on and the alcohol percentages in the girls systems rose. most of guys were still ok, since we all knew if we were to get too drunk there was a good chance we wouldn't get laid, and we wanted our units functioning. so the dare came to a guy and he's like Every girl should take off her bra so we can see their actual non padded tit size. After alotta grunting and a couple of more shots they did, and one note here, if guys gave girls shit about boob size like they do to us about dick size, 95% of the girls should go jump of buildings. out of the 30 girls there, maybe 2 had nice tits, the rest were small and not only small, UGLY TOO. There was anything ranging from banana tits to eggplant looking ones to the ones who's nipple was bigger than their actual breasts. But they were to drunk to notice, and the guys were just happy they got to see some tits and cheering them on.

as a retaliation the next dare that got to the girls was 'show us ur dicks HARD so we can measure you'. I was like FUCKKK now im gonna get called and im gonna look like an idiot. Some of the guys were extremely enthusiastic about this which worried me all the more, while other guys were more reserved but none of us could say no cause the second you'd deny it it would mean that you'd lied in the earlier question and you have a small dick.

so all the guys lined up w their girls fooling around till their name was called to the 'measuring' desk. It was aggreed that your girl or whoever u were fooling around iwht would give you head until you got hard and the girls would measure you while sitting. Since we were all a lil drunk we didn't have any anxiety about getting hard, and what was happening was something close to the spring break videos I'd seen on TV except there were no cameras, and alotta girls were trying to be extra wild since they hadnt ever been 'wild' before, as if they were trying to prove themselves. As we all took our pants off I noticed I had a good flacid hang over most of the boys but a couple were clearly longer than me flacid. As The measuring went on and I got to see the guys errect, the same guys who seemed bigger than me flacid were MUCH smaller than me errect. what was more was that the measurements were done while sitting from the side/under of the penis. most guys measured 7-8 inches, while I measured 9.5. not to mention I had at LEAST an inch of girth on any of the guys there. They all had dicks resembling my pre-Penis Enlargement penis, where as my post-Penis Enlargement COCK embarressed all of them. So if correct bp erect length measurements from the top of the penis were taken, I doubt any of them would've been bigger than 6.5.

It occured to me, that most of these guys weren't 'lying' per-se like I was about being 8.5 (while some clearly were lying). I damn well KNEW I wasn't 8.5 and I just said I was because of what everyone else was saying and my EGO wasn't letting me be less. But these guys actually measure their dicks from their ass (from the bottom or side), and its a circle of lies; a 5 incher tells his gf he's 7 so when she sees a 6 incher she insists that her xbf was 7 and that he's an inch bigger than him. ofcourse not many guys will say 'no your xbf was 5 and I'm 6, they'll just be happy w the size they've acclaimed. This summer I met a girl that specifically wanted to have sex with me cause she heard I was 10 inches from one of her friends that I had had sex with.

Have no doubt that if you are above 6.5 you're BIG to most girls. What makes you look HUGE is mostly a combination of you're girth and length. So every millimeter that you're gaining through Penis Enlargement is making you a amongst an increasingly smaller number of people who are at that size.

Don't ever believe a word guys say about their size to other guys or to girls. I'm at a size (you guys have seen my pictures) where no girl can ever call me small, I'm BIG, and I STILL lied about my size let alone those who feel the NEED to lie about their size.

anyways, that was the story and moral of it is to keep at it and don't get discouraged if you 'hear' things about guys dicks. Very few guys are actually 'born' with it.
Very nice story VK. The Knight speaks the muhfuckin' troof'!
I have a friend who was my suite-mate last year in college. I've heard at least 3 girls personally say how great he is in bed and how big his dick is. One night last year he got really drunk and stripped down in front of me and another prudish girl (more funny that way definitely), to take a shower. He then worked himself up to about 90% hard to fuck with her. He couldn't have been anywhere bigger than 6.5 either...
 
bIgjOe said:
Very nice story VK. The Knight speaks the muhfuckin' troof'!
I have a friend who was my suite-mate last year in college. I've heard at least 3 girls personally say how great he is in bed and how big his dick is. One night last year he got really drunk and stripped down in front of me and another prudish girl (more funny that way definitely), to take a shower. He then worked himself up to about 90% hard to fuck with her. He couldn't have been anywhere bigger than 6.5 either...

Ya fer real. like girls usually have high hopes from adult entertainment, and then they see a couple of 4-5 inchers and they think thats normal, then a 6-6.5 incher looks big to them.
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
It was DEFINATELY a rant which I wish to ignore. Some guys may be 'big' without Penis Enlargement, but that consititutes a very small percentage. DD, I would reconsider boasting about your 'natural' size here if you have no pictures to prove it. From the way you're ranting I could swear you're 6 inches max, as a guy who's 'packing' doesn't talk about size like this, unless he's got a couple of screws loose.

And Drivernuts

Reaction was just a chaotic cheer with some of my friends yelling as jokes 'LIESS THIS HAS BEEN FIXED LIKE THE FLORIDA VOTE COUNT, THE RULER LIES HE'S ONLY 4'

you must understand it was a very friendly atmosphere not hostile like some Penis Enlargement forums doubting eachothers sizes. there was one guy there, he was short like maybe 6 tops but I coulda sworn he was at 7.5 girth. it looked fucked, and we call him MISTA TUNA now. cuz his dick looks like a tuna can
first of all i never bragged about my size...second of all i do have pictures...third of all the piuctures were befor i started Penis Enlargement.....and lastly i am packin .....i saw your pictures, and im packin more than you.....so how bout you keep quite there buddy,and dont jump the gun, or jump to conclusions. Jelousy is an ugly thing.
 
desiel_dick said:
first of all i never bragged about my size...second of all i do have pictures...third of all the piuctures were befor i started Penis Enlargement.....and lastly i am packin .....i saw your pictures, and im packin more than you.....so how bout you keep quite there buddy,and dont jump the gun, or jump to conclusions. Jelousy is an ugly thing.

Yes you bragged... and more than that you are still braggin in this quoted post...

How old are you man? less than 16 probably. No offense to 16 - who are on the forum... :s
 
desiel_dick said:
first of all i never bragged about my size...second of all i do have pictures...third of all the piuctures were befor i started Penis Enlargement.....and lastly i am packin .....i saw your pictures, and im packin more than you.....so how bout you keep quite there buddy,and dont jump the gun, or jump to conclusions. Jelousy is an ugly thing.
Never thought I would actually hear straight up "well my dick is bigger than yours, so shut up" kind of talk on this forum. I actually found that to be a huge positive of this place as a community. Not anymore though.....
You coulda stopped at "yes I do have pictures, here is a link, they speak for themselves".

Can I ask you something seriously? Do you think yourself to be better than us(a good deal of the forum members) because you started out fairly big? Oh, and because you only measure nbpel? I have to tell you it really sounds that way. Also, I honestly don't think anyone is jealous of you.
 
no one is jealous because we will all achieve the size we want to be. the important think is not how big you are, but the knowledge you gain on the way. for some of us working past our newbie gains, this is very useful knowledge.
 
bIgjOe said:
Never thought I would actually hear straight up "well my dick is bigger than yours, so shut up" kind of talk on this forum. I actually found that to be a huge positive of this place as a community. Not anymore though.....
You coulda stopped at "yes I do have pictures, here is a link, they speak for themselves".

Can I ask you something seriously? Do you think yourself to be better than us(a good deal of the forum members) because you started out fairly big? Oh, and because you only measure nbpel? I have to tell you it really sounds that way. Also, I honestly don't think anyone is jealous of you.


Exactly. This isn't a size forum. This is a Gains forum, and people are respected not for their size but for their gains and input to others and for all intents and purposes you're a noob and you haven't even gained an inch. Furthermore, no one respects you cause you fail to help anyone and have an unneccessary ego that doesn't match with your lack of knowledge about Penis Enlargement.
It would be at least somewhat understandable if you had gained 2 inches and were acting cocky about it.
I've gained near 2 inches in length and 1.5 inches in girth, and I'm not gonna stop till I've achieved what I want. And that isn't 2 inches of newbi gains, thats hitting many platues and overcoming many obstacles over a long period of time. In the course of those gains, I've had the pleasure of helping people as well as getting priceless help from people on this board ever since I joined a couple of months ago. And that is what makes Penis Enlargement such a rewarding exercise for me. The support of my friends here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and my support for them. If you don't intend to help people you shouldn't even come here.


Many of us have things that we were born with but we don't brag about. DLD for example was born with extrmely good genes to gain fast.

Prince_Albert is a huge athlete and bodybuilder yet he never comes and tells people on this board or any bodybuilding board 'shut up I'm built and am naturally bigger than you.'

Same as bodybuilding, Penis Enlargement is about what you start with and what you finally end up with. A guy that's naturally 200 lbs and becomes 210 is nothing compared to a guy that starts at 150 and becomes 185 lbs.

I hope, for your sake, that this is only your 'online' attitude, and you're somewhat decent in real life.

btw whats the link to his pics? I don't believe I've seen them.
 
youknow what.....vaseline knight wants to talk shit to me...be a wise ass...and im not gonna stand up for myself...hell no....im gonna tell it how it is. and if you guys dont like me, dont worry, im not hearetbroken.
 
see i said i was bigger than you because You were talkin shit, and said i was no more than 6 inches....so i told you the truth, im bigger than you.so why dont we stop all this bullshit,i never wanted to fight, all i did was make a comment how most of the guys onb here think anyone with a big dick does Penis Enlargement, and its not true. you guys can talk shit back to me after this but i wont respond. iomn gonna be the BIGGER man here.
 
desiel_dick said:
see i said i was bigger than you because You were talkin shit, and said i was no more than 6 inches....so i told you the truth, im bigger than you.so why dont we stop all this bullshit,i never wanted to fight, all i did was make a comment how most of the guys onb here think anyone with a big dick does Penis Enlargement, and its not true. you guys can talk shit back to me after this but i wont respond. iomn gonna be the BIGGER man here.

Ok i saw your pics and i could care less about being bigger than anyone on this site, since there are MANY bigger than me.

but,

from your pics its obvious your not as big as you say you are. those pics you have are all misleading angles, let me demonstrate. I'm gonna post two pics of myself, one with a misleading angle (for the girls) and one of what I would post here on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] which is not misleading. Any picture, where you grab your dick by the base and squeeze and push down your balls gives you a fake one or two inches.


First picture, A MISLEADING ANGLE!! in this pic if you pay attention my nbp dick starts where my index finger is gripping my penis. where as in the pic you are lead to believe that my penis starts from where my pinki finger is. (i don't know if I'm making sense). now look at the second pic, my ACTUAL length can be seen here because I'm not grabbing my dick and im not giving the impression that there's another 2-3 inches of penis that I'm holding under my hand.

The same goes with pics 2-3. I could easily 'CLAIM' 8.5" with these pics as many guys suggest I look alot bigger than what I claim to be, but whats the point? I've hit a plateau and I can't seem to get past 7 5/8 (bpfs) and near 7.5 (bpEL) and 7 3/8 (nbpel). I'm lean so I barely have any fat pad. I find it quite immature of you to stress that the only measurements valid are the nbp ones since many guys have bigger dicks than me and you but their fat pad hides it. if they were to do a cut down cycle for 2 months they'd gain an inch to their nbp lengths, the dick is there, it just aint showing (yet).


I'm on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] to get constructive criticism and support so that i can go past the size, i get the 'omg ur huge' comments from girls all the time. You seem like a nice guy who got off the wrong start here. I hope you understand we're not here to 'fight' you, nor do we care to bring you down. We just wish your attitude to match the one we value at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]: one of respect, support and understanding. If I in anyway offended you, I do appologize.


I have no intention of saying 'I'm bigger than you' that's not the purpose. The purpose is, don't be over cocky. we've all been where you are.
 
I like this post, cuz I'm not in trouble :) This is actually makes my motivation stonger cuz I don't want to be that 4-5, and for the first post by EVo, I think the average definetly got smaller over a couple of generations. Our pops, mines in his 60's all had a min.(I'm guessing) 6.5 average. You can see in pics of them, with their family and friends, standing next to their dads that their bigger. I think having a 6.5 nbp now these days iS bIG, but anyways, I'm in love with Penis Enlargement and like [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. I actually told my dad ( this was on an ealier tread) and told him if and how if he wanted to get his vigor back, what to do, but he said, he couldn't imagine spending an hour a day( at the min.) doing this.... Great story VAse., sounds like you guys were wildling out, great stuff.
 
Great story VK.

In my social group the size question has come up a couple of times. We were in the presence of some girls and guess what. Everyone was above 7" bar none. Think about the coincidence in that. There were eight guys there and all of them were well above average. Amazing.

Anyway I told the truth and at that time I was about 6.5" BP. I knew, since I had been here for a while, that I was about the same size as everyone else there but the incident made me look small to everyone. I really don't give a shit though since I'm on my way to 9" and the other guys will always be people who lie about their size even to themselves. They will always be that way unless they find Penis Enlargement but since they think that they're big and women all think that they're big, they'll never do anything about it.

I guess if women think that 6" is 8 then they'll think that 8" is 10. Then the other guys will be big in their minds but you will be huge.
 
desiel_dick said:
first of all i never bragged about my size...second of all i do have pictures...third of all the piuctures were befor i started Penis Enlargement.....and lastly i am packin .....i saw your pictures, and im packin more than you.....so how bout you keep quite there buddy,and dont jump the gun, or jump to conclusions. Jelousy is an ugly thing.


that is definitely a 21 year old remark... come back in a few years son.

horrible.

im packing i am bigger than you , i screach my tires at red lights, i talk really loud and obnoxious, i really have a squirt gun, I am 2.2% body fat and 22% retarded, i can't help it when i get like this cause i am 44% deaf, I weigh 202 pounds (with 88 rolls of quarters stuffed in my calvins) and i measure my self with shoes on,off, all while holding a glass of milk......lol.. beat it.
 
ghosttt said:
that is definitely a 21 year old remark... come back in a few years son.

horrible.

im packing i am bigger than you , i screach my tires at red lights, i talk really loud and obnoxious, i really have a squirt gun, I am 2.2% body fat and 22% retarded, i can't help it when i get like this cause i am 44% deaf, I weigh 202 pounds (with 88 rolls of quarters stuffed in my calvins) and i measure my self with shoes on,off, all while holding a glass of milk......lol.. beat it.
crackhead:banghead: :hammering
 
ghosttt said:
that is definitely a 21 year old remark... come back in a few years son.

horrible.

im packing i am bigger than you , i screach my tires at red lights, i talk really loud and obnoxious, i really have a squirt gun, I am 2.2% body fat and 22% retarded, i can't help it when i get like this cause i am 44% deaf, I weigh 202 pounds (with 88 rolls of quarters stuffed in my calvins) and i measure my self with shoes on,off, all while holding a glass of milk......lol.. beat it.


lol haha where the hell did that come from?
 
We kind of got side tracked here but, then again, we're talking about men exaggerating the size of their cocks...ego bullshit.

The cool thing about Penis Enlargement is that if you're gonna grow, you're gonna work your ass off. Sure, you may get some nice growth initially but after that, growth comes a fraction at a time. And that fraction is the direct result of an intense session of girth work or length work.




So cool...


.
 
ocd said:
We kind of got side tracked here but, then again, we're talking about men exaggerating the size of their cocks...ego bullshit.

The cool thing about Penis Enlargement is that if you're gonna grow, you're gonna work your ass off. Sure, you may get some nice growth initially but after that, growth comes a fraction at a time. And that fraction is the direct result of an intense session of girth work or length work.




So cool...


.


interesting sig. Explain Rule#2
 
ghosttt said:
that is definitely a 21 year old remark... come back in a few years son.

horrible.

im packing i am bigger than you , i screach my tires at red lights, i talk really loud and obnoxious, i really have a squirt gun, I am 2.2% body fat and 22% retarded, i can't help it when i get like this cause i am 44% deaf, I weigh 202 pounds (with 88 rolls of quarters stuffed in my calvins) and i measure my self with shoes on,off, all while holding a glass of milk......lol.. beat it.
I followed you all the way up to the measuring part there lol. What? Doesn't matter it kept me entertained.
 
VK you made an excellent point earlier and I'd just like to point it out to guys who come here and were born big and then think that we will all imediately respect them. It is gainers that get respect here not guys with big dicks.

OCD explained the reason for this in this thread also. It is because as Penis Enlargementers we know how much work it takes to make those gains and it is the work and dedication the gets the respect. That is a really important part of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] because from outside it can look like guys are here just posting pictures of their dicks and everyone else is just staring at them. The difference is that we know what it takes to get from point A to point B and that is what we respect.
 
TomdW said:
VK you made an excellent point earlier and I'd just like to point it out to guys who come here and were born big and then think that we will all imediately respect them. It is gainers that get respect here not guys with big dicks.

OCD explained the reason for this in this thread also. It is because as Penis Enlargementers we know how much work it takes to make those gains and it is the work and dedication the gets the respect. That is a really important part of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] because from outside it can look like guys are here just posting pictures of their dicks and everyone else is just staring at them. The difference is that we know what it takes to get from point A to point B and that is what we respect.

couldn't have said it better myself.
 
TomdW said:
VK you made an excellent point earlier and I'd just like to point it out to guys who come here and were born big and then think that we will all imediately respect them. It is gainers that get respect here not guys with big dicks.

OCD explained the reason for this in this thread also. It is because as Penis Enlargementers we know how much work it takes to make those gains and it is the work and dedication the gets the respect. That is a really important part of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] because from outside it can look like guys are here just posting pictures of their dicks and everyone else is just staring at them. The difference is that we know what it takes to get from point A to point B and that is what we respect.

Well said Tom.
 
prince Albert said:
Well said Tom.
yea i can see youy guys who were born small stick together and verbally assult us more blessed men. whagtever...im sick of this stuid asas fighting about nothing....no more posting for me...im just gonna Penis Enlargement.....and when i have a 9 by 7...in probly less than a year...ill post it and let that do all the talkin...peaCE
 
desiel_dick said:
yea i can see youy guys who were born small stick together and verbally assult us more blessed men. whagtever...im sick of this stuid asas fighting about nothing....no more posting for me...im just gonna Penis Enlargement.....and when i have a 9 by 7...in probly less than a year...ill post it and let that do all the talkin...peaCE


lol i wouldn't call you 'blessed' by any stretch of the imagination buddy; not size wise either. you are what is called average length, lower to average girth. So get off your high horses and start working towards that 9x7. $20 says you won't have it in a year.
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
lol i wouldn't call you 'blessed' by any stretch of the imagination buddy; not size wise either. you are what is called average length, lower to average girth. So get off your high horses and start working towards that 9x7. $20 says you won't have it in a year.
ok so so befor pe i was 7 and 3/4 inches, anbd just barley under 6 in girth....now your tellin me that those stats are average and below average....dude your obviously contradicting yourself. How about i make a post saying that vaseline knight says 1/4th of an inch under 8 is average, and about 6 inches girth is "below average". What do you think people response would be. Your a fuckin bitter moron, who is so obviously jelous and envious of me for some reason that you go against all that you know and preach. get real dude. befor i ever did Penis Enlargement, i was still bigger than you after years of you wankin and pullin and strechin and hangin. I can understand why you dont like me.
 
Starting length: 5.8"
Starting Girth : 4.5"

hahahaha VK...that is your stats befor Penis Enlargement.....hahah wow dude,....you should really learn to keep your mouth shut. your sayin i wasent blessed...look what you were born with....shit now that is what i call Waaaaaay below average..
 
desiel_dick said:
Starting length: 5.8"
Starting Girth : 4.5"

hahahaha VK...that is your stats befor Penis Enlargement.....hahah wow dude,....you should really learn to keep your mouth shut. your sayin i wasent blessed...look what you were born with....shit now that is what i call Waaaaaay below average..


5'8" below average?:s


Ok dude, you have a bigger than average penis to start with... so what? Work it out and you will easily get to 8, maybe 9 inches!

Guys, what's the point of getting all heated up in a discussion forum? Remember that Internet's arguments are like competitions for special kids. You may win, but you still are an idiot...
 
WannaBe7Inches said:
5'8" below average?:s


Ok dude, you have a bigger than average penis to start with... so what? Work it out and you will easily get to 8, maybe 9 inches!

Guys, what's the point of getting all heated up in a discussion forum? Remember that Internet's arguments are like competitions for special kids. You may win, but you still are an idiot...
your righht this shit is so stupid. yea i over 8 now and over 6 girth , i been doin this for 2 months...i say a year from now ill easily be at 9 by 7. well i dont even really xcare, i came across this info on the internet one day and thought shit,...gareentee way to gain length and girth.....who wouldnt
 
WannaBe7Inches said:
5'8" below average?:s


Ok dude, you have a bigger than average penis to start with... so what? Work it out and you will easily get to 8, maybe 9 inches!

Guys, what's the point of getting all heated up in a discussion forum? Remember that Internet's arguments are like competitions for special kids. You may win, but you still are an idiot...
First off, that is offensive. My 20 year old cousin has cerebral palsy and has won several gold metals in the Special Olympics...something I'm proud of him for.

Second, Diesel Dick has an average dick with below average girth. No big deal. But he comes on here, posts bogus pics from deceiving angles and the like, tries to be a complete asshole on here (which is a place where many not only come for advice, but for MOTIVATION as well) and ruins the good atmosphere of this forum. I think both of you guys should have a fight to the death, and the winner should get stoned to death. End.
 
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