7 Months and No Gains

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GOMER_PYLE

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From what I read on this site on a daily basis I must be doing something wrong, based on the superb gains that most of you are getting. I got my Bib starter adjusted correctly back in August and I'm not pulling skin anymore. I feel fatigue in my ligs each day after my sets the night before. I had been using 18 pounds, straight down, 20 minute sets, for 3 hours each night since early November, and a couple hours per day at 15 pounds before that. I really don't know what I could be doing wrong at this point. Its pulling actual penis and not penis skin now, I'm devoting plenty of time to it, plenty of weight, I'm feeling fatigue, and all I have to show for it is a same length penis for 6-7 months. I'm trying to remain positive and not get discouraged but its hard. Could it be the simple reason that I'm using a fish scale and not weights?

Everyone I know tells me not to care and just "get mine" and not worry about it when it comes to girls but that is near impossible for me to do. Comments like "there's the little guy" get old very very quickly. I know that gains can be made because I have gained in the distant past but they have stopped now. 7 1/16" seems to be all there is for me and I don't know what to do to change that. My LOT is around 7:00 but I've heard people say that its just a theory and thats it. Maybe I should try straight out for a couple months and see what happens. I don't want to give up but each time I measure and there is no gain, it makes it hard to keep going.
 
Judging from your posting above, i think you only hung btc or straight down with a LOT of 7.
The theory says it is very hard or nearly impossible to make lig gains with a LOT of 7.
The theory would tell you, that you have to stretch above your LOT!
The hanging angles ots and straight out are the way to go when following this theory.

Seven month with no gains is a long time, especially when somebody was hard working like you. I think you should have changed your hanging angle earlier.

By the way, how much distance do you have between your exit point and the bottom of your pubic bone?
 
yo,
I also spent hundreds to thousands of hours with little results to show for it,
by the way your legnth is already big so I was woundering why any one would say your the little one?
Any way I just recently absorbed the Lot theory and feel it's making a positive difference in my Pe outlook.
I have not (researched or read ), but what's up with the on the distance between the exit piont and the bottom of my pubic bone?
How does this effect routines and what would we look out for?
 
that sounds like alot of time and effort. 3 hrs a night! id agree with dex on this one and hang at higher angles. i dont have a hanger so im not sure how hard/easy this is to do.
if it makes you feel any better, i havent had any gains since ive joined, and ive been really dedicated, no missing days etc. PLUS im smaller than you! lol. now that should make you feel better ;)
 
and i noticed youve just bought a circle device.....im sure in a few months that will deal possitive results!...
 
Forgot to say:
Are you performing jelqs?
My personal theory (based on my own progress) is that
you will gain nothing from hanging when you are not jelqing after hanging.
The penis needs an increased blood flow for gaining. Without more blood there will be no gains. You will not get more blood into your unit by masturbation,sex or edging, the only way is to do normal jelqs.
May be BTB jelqs might help also, but i dont know how to do them. But i think they are not so important like normal jelqs after a hanging session.
 
dex said:
Judging from your posting above, i think you only hung btc or straight down with a LOT of 7.
The theory says it is very hard or nearly impossible to make lig gains with a LOT of 7.
The theory would tell you, that you have to stretch above your LOT!
The hanging angles ots and straight out are the way to go when following this theory.

Seven month with no gains is a long time, especially when somebody was hard working like you. I think you should have changed your hanging angle earlier.

By the way, how much distance do you have between your exit point and the bottom of your pubic bone?
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Quite a damn bit, I'm 5 1/2" NBPenis EnlargementL. I think I'm going to adhere to the LOT theory for awhile to see what happens.
 
I think what I'm going to do is start stretching at higher angles, jelqing to see if that helps, and wearing the CD during any time I can't use my Bib. I had never heard of jelqing being necessary to get gains from hanging so where did you get that information? I should probably do it anyway because it can only help things but I'd just like to know if it really is necessary to get gains from hanging.

I know I'm not the smallest size out there but whenever I hear these negative comments from women I know that I'm obviously not impressive either. I want it to be impressive to them when they see it. Maybe not the biggest they've ever had but enough to make them want more and more.
 
Ok dude first try using weights then if nothing from that change ur angle to S.O then if nothing from that then go to O.T.S then if nothing from that then try to hang like this Get dinner table or a computer desk then get a chair and lay down on the table on ur stomach and hang i draw a picture to show u lol

I started to make gains like this.

 
Gomer,

You said that you are feeling fatigue each night. Is this fatigue enough for you to drop the weight for subsequent sets??? Reason I ask, you may not be "riding" this fatigue long enough to deform tissue. The key is not to reach fatigue, but to reach it and to continue to hang while in this semi sore condition. Secondly, the anatomy of your ligs may have something to do with why you are not seeing gains. Maybe one day those ligs will break and give in. Hopefully Bib will give his thoughts later on.
 
Oh shit, you may have hit the nail on the head Ozzy. I never feel fatigue DURING my sets until the last set or two. IOW, if I do 9-20 minute sets (3 hours) at 18 pounds, I only feel fatigue or "feel" lig stretch during number 8 and 9 and very rarely on the 7th set. I do feel some fatigue the next morning when I grasp the glans and pull down and I thought THAT is what reaching fatigue meant. If thats not the case then I only have myself to blame for not reaching fatigue during my sets, dropping the weight a little, and riding the semi-fatigue for a while longer. When these Penis Enlargement vets talk about hanging for 3-4 hours, does that really mean hanging for 3-4 hours after reaching fatigue or close to it?
 
Gomer,
What may be occurring is a cycle of gain and loss that you may not even be aware of. Say you are sore after a set; you feel fatigue and had a good lig workout. What does your penis look like after a session? Does it retract, or does it stay extended? Most likely it has retracted. During this phase, your ligs actually tighten up as a protection/healing mechanism. They are most likely healing in this retracted state. The next day you hang and set the cycle over and over again. It seems like you have a great deal of time to hang on your hands. At 3 hours, I would break up your session further apart throughout the day. After sessions concentrate on keeping your penis extended. It may be a good idea to look into an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] such as a [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words], Fast Size, Vimax, Penismaster ect. . . Stop the retraction/negative healing phase and most likely you will reap the benefits.
Also, make hanging more effective. Look into reverse kegels while hanging. Nothing will isolate the ligs more and allow for a greater stretch than normal. Look into DLD blasters, they teach you the very valuable relationship between the PC muscular system and the penis anchoring system.
 
Gomer,

I would personally try to reach fatigue within the first or second set, and then ride the fatigue by lowering the weight for subsequent sets. Once you have reached a point where you cannot handle even half of your starting weight, then call it a day and stop hanging for that day. Key is to weaken the tissue early by reaching fatigue and RIDE it as long as possible; this period i believe is MOST CRUCIAL. If you are reaching fatigue in the last set, and only ridig it for another set, then you are not taking advantage of the already weakened tissues.
 
The BTC Killer said:
Gomer,
What may be occurring is a cycle of gain and loss that you may not even be aware of. Say you are sore after a set; you feel fatigue and had a good lig workout. What does your penis look like after a session? Does it retract, or does it stay extended? Most likely it has retracted. During this phase, your ligs actually tighten up as a protection/healing mechanism. They are most likely healing in this retracted state. The next day you hang and set the cycle over and over again. It seems like you have a great deal of time to hang on your hands. At 3 hours, I would break up your session further apart throughout the day. After sessions concentrate on keeping your penis extended. It may be a good idea to look into an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] such as a [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words], Fast Size, Vimax, Penismaster ect. . . Stop the retraction/negative healing phase and most likely you will reap the benefits.
Also, make hanging more effective. Look into reverse kegels while hanging. Nothing will isolate the ligs more and allow for a greater stretch than normal. Look into DLD blasters, they teach you the very valuable relationship between the PC muscular system and the penis anchoring system.
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I have a new Circle Device that I could wear throughout the day when I'm not hanging. You're right, it does retract like a mo fo after my sets. This way there would be a constant 2 pounds pulling down on it. I know its not much but at least it would keep my penis extended. Thanks for the encouragement guys, but I can see why the majority of guys that try Penis Enlargement think its bogus. Too bad for them that they don't have a site like this to go to and get pointers from. :)
 
GOMER_PYLE said:
I guess I worded that wrong. I use the fish scale to show how much weight I'm exerting with my legs when I push away from my body. My legs are my weight, IOW.
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Are you gonna start using weight it much more relaxing but maybe ur doing the wrong thing hanging. If u like using ur body maybe u should buy a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power Assist[/words] and do manual streches u use ur legs to work out with this tool.
 
Pandora said:
Are you gonna start using weight it much more relaxing but maybe ur doing the wrong thing hanging. If u like using ur body maybe u should buy a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power Assist[/words] and do manual streches u use ur legs to work out with this tool.
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Maybe it wouldn't be relaxing if I weighed 100 pounds but I weigh 200 pounds. With 200 pounds of body weight, sitting in a chair and pulling back 20 pounds of resistance on my dick doesn't take any effort at all. I don't understand the big deal here because 20 pounds is 20 pounds. Regardless of the way it is applied, be it a 20 pound weight plate hanging freely or a 20 pound stretch with a shoe string tied to a fish scale, tied to a desk, using my body weight to maintain the 20 pound stretch.
 
dex said:
Why is it because of your NBPenis EnlargementL? I dont see the connection, 1.5 inches are 1.5 inches.
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Maybe I'm confused here. Are you refering to the fat pad? I'm talking about the measuring point of the pubic bone. From that point to the tip of the glans is 7 1/16". From barely touching the skin in the same place, that distance decreases to 5 1/2", unfortunately.
 
GOMER_PYLE said:
Maybe it wouldn't be relaxing if I weighed 100 pounds but I weigh 200 pounds. With 200 pounds of body weight, sitting in a chair and pulling back 20 pounds of resistance on my dick doesn't take any effort at all. I don't understand the big deal here because 20 pounds is 20 pounds. Regardless of the way it is applied, be it a 20 pound weight plate hanging freely or a 20 pound stretch with a shoe string tied to a fish scale, tied to a desk, using my body weight to maintain the 20 pound stretch.
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Ok Gomer i just thought it was weird to not use weight while hanging i just dont think that u would keep a constant strech because ur body would resist pain and u would back off but with weight u can not do this. Also if ur not reaching fatigue in the first couple of sets then u are not hanging heavy enough but what do i know lol
 
Gomer,

I thought we had some discourse on the plan you were to follow? Why did you wait seven months? I thought you were going to switch to the upper angles with no results at the lower angles?

>Oh shit, you may have hit the nail on the head Ozzy. I never feel fatigue DURING my sets until the last set or two. IOW, if I do 9-20 minute sets (3 hours) at 18 pounds, I only feel fatigue or "feel" lig stretch during number 8 and 9 and very rarely on the 7th set.<

Try to reach fatigue within the first set or two. Then, reduce the weight as needed to remain comfortable, and continue to hang in the fatigued state. Now Gomer, how many times have you seen me write that?

>When these Penis Enlargement vets talk about hanging for 3-4 hours, does that really mean hanging for 3-4 hours after reaching fatigue or close to it?<

Yes, after reaching fatigue. There is nothing better than NEEDING to drop the weight, when you can actually feel the tissues deforming.

If your LOT is 7, you have been consistantly hitting the lower angles without gains, you need to go to the upper angles, stressing the entire tunica. I would also recommend using the fulcrum thing I just posted. It will get you to fatigue early, using little weight.

Good luck,

Bigger
 
Please tell me how tunica fatigue is supposed to feel during sets. I'm curious about this because I did 6-20 minute sets tonight, straight out, starting at 30 pounds and ending just under 25 pounds. It felt like I was getting a good workout but I don't know if I was reaching fatigue or not in the tunica. The reason I dropped the weight was because of how the glans felt. It never hurt but I could just tell that the weight needed to be lowered because my body seemed to tell me to lower it.
 
Gomer,

>Please tell me how tunica fatigue is supposed to feel during sets.<

It is a discomfort, which actually can take several forms. Tingling, pulling, tired, sore. Somewhat like the feeling after a weight lifting workout. Perhaps something like the feeling a few days after spraining your ankle.

>I'm curious about this because I did 6-20 minute sets tonight, straight out, starting at 30 pounds and ending just under 25 pounds. It felt like I was getting a good workout but I don't know if I was reaching fatigue or not in the tunica. The reason I dropped the weight was because of how the glans felt. It never hurt but I could just tell that the weight needed to be lowered because my body seemed to tell me to lower it.<

No, I am sorry, but glans problems are not the same as shaft fatigue. However, it is good that you can differentiate between the two. It is not abnormal to have to drop the weight because of head fatigue. However, you want to have to drop because of shaft fatigue.

Now, that is a whole lot of weight SO, to not be reaching fatigue. I would suggest you go the the fulcrum in the SO position. You will need much less weight, which will be easier on the head, and the slight bend will help you reach fatigue much quicker. You do not have to work harder, work smarter.

Bigger
 
I see alot about doing excercises (ADS/ADH) after hanging? My routine has been manual stretches, DLD blasters, then hanging at the end of the set. So, what should be the correct order?

Hanging > manual/blasters > jelq ?

I ask because I've been hanging at 15 lbs for an hour a day (3 20 min segments) as well as the manual work with almost nothing in gains for awhile (2 months). My lot is 6-7 as well. How should I modify my routine? This plateau sucks!
 
Edit-- my lot isn't 6-7... it is near straight out (9-10 oclock). Sorry about that.

Also, I've been putting hanging last so that the manual stretches can prepare my ligs for the weight. I'm thinking if I start hanging first I will have to drop the weight a bit?
 
You know that with 7 inches BPenis EnlargementL and 5,5 inches EG you are definitely bigger than the average, right?

What's that story of the "little guy"?!
 
I'm back fellas. I took a couple years off and now I have started again. I'll be hanging SO for an hour and a half or so per night and then I will be clamping. My goal is 8.5" NBPenis EnlargementL and 6.5" EGMS. That means I need roughly 3" in length and 1" in girth. I don't have the time I used to have so I will have to compensate with heavier weight.

I figured out that I am one of the MANY guys out there with SPS (Small Penis Syndrome) which is actually a well documented psychological condition. However, my case is extremely severe and I never get laid any more because of it. The last time I got laid was New Year's of '05. :O It has totally destroyed my confidence so I feel that I have no choice but to get to my goal or be miserable. Every time I talk to a chick and start kinda making out with her, I can't help but think that her last fuck was someone like Mandingo, Bib, DLD, etc. who all have tree trunks for cocks. I hate this feeling but at least I know how to get rid of it now. The only downside is the time it is going to take to gain 3" in EL and 1" in EG. I may have to make due with 5-6 hours of sleep per night instead of 8.

The good news is that I have FINALLY figured out how to hang properly with my Bib. I had been attaching the hanger near the glans completely flaccid (we're talking "its cold outside" flaccid) and what I am doing now is attaching it close to the base, kegeling some blood into it to plump it up some (maybe 10-20&#37; erect). Then, after I attach the hanger, I squeeze the glans a bit to force the blood out of it if I kegeled too much in. Then I attach the weight and get a WAAAAAAAAAAY better pull than I used to. I think I have finally figured this stuff out.
 
Hey Gomer - do not be discouraged. You gotta experiment a little - and this does take some time. Maybe even wasted time in order to find out what works best FOR YOU.
I have been a member for 3 years. In that time I have made 7/8" gains in length. REAL length. NBP. Just put the ruler on top and measure from base to tip of head without pushing the ruler into my abdomen. Too many fakers out there. Some of those guys who ended up being honest with me finally admitted they exagerated some of their outrageous gains. Some guys will do just about anything in order to be admired. Get real. Don't believe everything.
I have learned over these years that you must be persistent and never give up. Got to be able to stop the things that do not work and start something new that you do not know will work. Hard to do sometimes.
You spent way too long of a time doing something that was obviously not being of any use to you. If the measuring stick tells you that you are not making any gains after a few months of the kind of hard work you put in, then you gotta give it up and do something new.
I got so confused reading about LOT, and all kinds of interpretations of what it is, etc. that I almost gave up. Then I thought, well, it kind of sounds to me that SO would more than likely work for just about anyone. So I got a chair, put it about a foot from my bed, laid face down so that my thighs were supported by the chair and my stomach on up was being supported by the bed. I hung between them straight down - which is straight out in that position. Comfortable and easy. I only have about 1 hour to devote to Penis Enlargement. So then I jelked a few hundred afterwards to Increase circulation.
That's all I do and all the time I have for Penis Enlargement. But almost an inch in real erect length is pretty good considering what I put into it.
 
muscleup;348118 said:
So I got a chair, put it about a foot from my bed, laid face down so that my thighs were supported by the chair and my stomach on up was being supported by the bed. I hung between them straight down - which is straight out in that position.
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Isn't that serious BTC?
 
Thanks for the encouragement guys. I cut out a piece of cardboard that is 8.5 x 6.5 and it is STUNNING how much bigger that is than my current 5.5 x 5.5 NBP. I'm 7 1/16 if I press it to the bone and I have been working out with my Bowflex, jogging, and eating right so that should help decrease the fat pad. I think I'll try Dash's hardcore hanging once I recondition myself to handle that kind of weight.
 
To the people that aint ganinig from hanging: plain and simple, you ain't doing enough. As cliche as that may sound from me preachin this all the time, it's true. Now I know you aint got the time and all that shit, well then thats your major drawback.
 
Cool man, thanks. You're the clamping guru, right? How much girth (if any) did you gain with simply clamping and leaving it alone? I ask because that is what I'm doing for as many 20 minute sets per day as I can right after my hanging sets. IOW, usually 2-3 20 minute clamping sets per day.
 
GOMER_PYLE;349275 said:
Cool man, thanks. You're the clamping guru, right? How much girth (if any) did you gain with simply clamping and leaving it alone? I ask because that is what I'm doing for as many 20 minute sets per day as I can right after my hanging sets. IOW, usually 2-3 20 minute clamping sets per day.
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well shazam! that sounds like a good clamp routine man. after a few weeks if youre able to, you might want to clamp for 30 min each set. everytime your penis gets used to the currect clamp workout, just try to last a little longer clamped. but becareful and dont over do it.
 
GOMER_PYLE;349351 said:
Thanks, I'll definitely move up when the time is right. You're starting stats are pretty much my goal LOL
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well dont you worry Private Pyle, youll be "born again hard" in no time hahaha. no seriously man, just stick to Penis Enlargement with dedication and youll gain. goodluck on your Penis Enlargement journey bro.
 
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