Using Wench for FR

I built a Captains Wench yesterday for lazy manual skin stretching. I had to move the 'middle' gripper 2" to the right instead of 1 1/2" like the instructions say to be able to get the grippers on the sides of the shaft. I used a 60" nylon cord so that I can put my foot through the loop and tug the skin in that way.

One problem I have is I can't wrap it tight enough to get the cable clamp onto the wench, it's too thick, so I can't use too much tension or pull on it for too long or it slips off, but I can get a pretty good skin stretch before that happens.

With this method I feel that you can get a better stretch than some manual skin stretching methods, and be lazy too. Working smarter, not harder.

The way it fits, it pretty much only stretches the skin instead of inner penis, so I can target the skin which is what I'm trying to do. I think that using this for a little each day five days out of the week, along with wearing the CAT II for those five days, and letting the skin grow at night and the other two days might be one of the fastest ways to grow the skin.

Does anyone that uses mainly manual skin stretching have a suggestion on how long I should use this to stretch each day? Maybe I could get an opinion from someone who hangs? This is similar to hanging since it's a hanging device, but it's mostly only stretching the skin instead. Anyone who's used the Wench have a suggestion to get it to wrap around more tightly so I can use the cable clamp on it?

Oh, when I pull on it, because I can't find a way to put it on tight enough, the velcro strap part goes over the head. Is this bad? I wish I could find a way to make it tighter so there weren't any problems.

It took a while for me to get my Wench in useable shape...had to "break it in" I guess before I could put a cable clamp over it. Try a hose clamp though, I'm sure that would work. Sounds interesting, let us know how it works.

Just to chime in on my experience with a hanger and skin. I have noticed that it seems like it could definitely be a viable option for FR. If I wrap farther back from the glans than usual, more skin gets pulled over the glans when hanging. If this were done consistently, I think it could be a two way deal. Gain length and foreskin at the same time. I've gained a good amount of extra skin from hanging, without actually focusing on gaining extra skin.

Yeah, that's the reason I decided to try this out. I've seen a few people who hang say they unintentionally gained skin from it, so I plan to try to intentionally gain skin from it... and see what it can do. I'm not doing it for length really, I just want my foreskin back. >

I was wondering about if I'd get better results with strapping it on lower or higher on the shaft, I was thinking if I strapped it on too high it may end up too high to pull on enough skin. I'll try that though, that's why I want the opinion of experienced hangers.. to see what method will bring the most skin growth.

Definitely wrap and attach the hanger farther back from the glans. At least a couple inches back from the glans, and go from there.

Just try to get as much skin tensed as possible. If you only have half the skin tensed, only half will be expanding. All the skin tensed will mean all your skin will be expanding.

Stuff,
Try stretching your penis out to full flaccid length before put the CW on. I do this to make it as long and thin as possible and I put the CW on as close to exit point as possible. Once I've pulled out to full flaccid length with one hand and have the two rubber pads of the CW clamped tightly around the shaft with the other, I quickly grab the free end of the CW and wrap it around the shaft. I can get the cable clamp over it at this point and when I pull on the CW the shaft skin bunches up behind the glans and often rolls over the glans, but the CW will not come off. Of course, with this good of clamping, the inner shaft is taking much of the stress and I am doing Penis Enlargement with only a little FR.

Cheers!
G

I've done one session with the wench so far today, and it still took a few times trying to get it on tight enough. Sometimes when I put it on, I can just pull it right off without much force. I was starting to wonder if over 5" girth (I'm around 5.3" or more mid shaft.. lost some gains down from 5.5") was too much to use the wench properly... but I'll try stretching it out more like you say. So far no matter how tight I wrap it around I can't fit the clamp on.

This last session wasn't that great.. I couldn't get the wench on right, but I'm going to do another soon and see if I can wrap it well enough for the clamp. Thanks for the advice. ^_^

When you say girth are you refering to erect girth? I ask because I have almost 6 inches of erect girth and I can fit the cable clamp over my wrap when I am flaccid and stretched out. Which size cable clamp are you using? You might be using the small one. Mine is the mid-size one: http://www.cableclamp.com/specs.html and I can close it to the first ratchet with the nylon straps attached.

Eep! The small one? The small one can only fit around my finger!

No, I use the medium sized one, the same one I used to use for constrictors for girth. Yeah, I meant erect, for some reason it's just too thick when I go to put the clamp on with the wench strapped on. I tried to get the clamp on one click, but it was impossible so far. Base girth is somewhere between 5.7" and 6", that might affect it.. but if you can get it on with that much mid shaft I shouldn't have problems.

Maybe it's because I moved the "middle" gripper 2" to the right instead of 1 1/2" like it says? I had to in order to get the grippers on the sides of the shaft, though.

Sorry, Stuff! I wasn't suggesting that your schlong was finger sized... I've just never seen the small sized cable clamp in person. I didn't realize that it was that tiny :s. How long did you make your wench? If you made it the full ten inches, then that's probably the reason you can't clamp. I made mine nine inches long and I can just barely get the clamp around it.

Cheers!
G

Ah, I see. I made the velcro strap 10" exactly because that's what it said to do... and the only thing it mentioned adjusting for a better fit was the grippers. Right now I have the second gripper at 1 3/4" away from the first, instead of 2" away like I had it, or 1 1/2" like it's reccommended. This distance seems ideal so far, but it still wouldn't let me close the clamp. Last night when I did the second session I tried to get the clamp on really hard for a while... all it did was hurt my hands. I'll cut the velcro strap down to 9" and see if I can get the clamp on one notch then. Thanks for the advice.

And yeah, when I bought my clamp it came with 2 medium and 2 small clamps. I decided to use the extra 3 clamps for what they're meant for, keeping my computer cables organized. :cool:

I got my clamp from a big orange bucket at Home Depot. They had two sizes: mine and a huge fucker that would corral a 100' extension cord or fit snuggly on DLD

I've got a question for you Stuff: did your industrial strength velcro stick to the nylon straping? Mine wouldn't stick worth crap and I ended up riveting the pieces together. Just curious.

Cheers!
G

I'm a little confused when you ask if the velcro stuck to the strapping? You know you are supposed to cut off a portion (like a 1"x2" strip) of the soft-stick part of the velcro and attack that to the strapping. You then put that on the outside of the 10" long back-to-back velcro.

Zuul said:

I'm a little confused when you ask if the velcro stuck to the strapping? You know you are supposed to cut off a portion (like a 1"x2" strip) of the soft-stick part of the velcro and attack that to the strapping. You then put that on the outside of the 10" long back-to-back velcro.

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Right-o! I was referring to the adhesive side of the velcro strip, not the fuzzy side. I put the adhesive side on the nylon strap and it fell right off. The adhesive sticks like a MF to everything else...just not the nylon strap, or at least not the strapping that I bought.

Hmm.. that adhesive tape on the industrial strength velcro is really tough, and it smells like tar. The first time I cut out the two 10" velcro strips and was about to stick them together, the adhesive sides touched at one small place and I couldn't get it back off with all my strength... I had to start over.

As for the adhesive side of the velcro sticking to the nylon strap, it stuck like anything. Each part I put the adhesive side to doesn't look like it's coming off. I bought the nylon strap from Walmart, there were a few rolls of it on the wall and you tell them how much you want, then they cut that much off and you pay by the inch.

I wanted to find a bucket of cable clamps like that when I went to Walmart months ago, but they only had them in four packs: medium with tiny, or medium with frickin' huge.

Today is an off day, so I won't be able to say how cutting the velcro strap down to 9" works yet. By the way, as per your sig, how do you FR?

LOL!
I just added that tag line about an hour ago... lol

I am currently using four methods: Manual tugging, rings/elastic bands, a silicone tugger, and the Captn's Wench.

Manual tugging: I loosen and warm the shaft skin like I'm gonna do Penis Enlargement, then grab the circ scar and pull the skin out over the glans. I always keep the circ scar at the end of the skin tube to encourage inner skin growth. I pull firmly for several minutes, then change the place I'm gripping and resume pulling. I also do a bidirectional pull where I pull on the circ scar, where it joins the frenulum, while pulling the opposite direction on my scrotum. This reduces/avoids turkey neck. Finally, I isolate the inner skin by tightly pulling the shaft skin, just behind the circ scar, toward my body (either with an erection or while pulling on the glans in the other direction).

Rings/Elastic bands: I started FR using the black, Buna-N plumbing rings that you can get at Home Depot or a plumbing supply store (Lowes carries these, but their selection sucks and you have to buy them in packages of ten). Figure out what diameter you need, I use 3/4, 13/16, 7/8, 15/16, and 1 inch, and stack them from big to small. I start with one each of the 1, 15/16, and 7/8 rings, followed by several 13/16 rings, and finish with at least two 3/4 rings for good grip. I used a bit of micropore tape wadded into a teardrop shape in the end of the skin tube to keep it from sliding back into the rings.
When I got to 13 rings, I decided that it had become too much of a circus, so I bought some 1 inch wide elastic strapping and started using that instead. See details at http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17536 but note that I have significantly reduced the size of my keeper from what you will see in the pictures. This method is frickin' potent, and it tends to act like a squash jelq if I kegal or get an semi-erection while I'm wearing it.

Silicone tugger: I made a silicone tugger following Dave Leary's pattern. This is a fun device to use since it pulls on the shaft as much as the skin... nothing like mixing Penis Enlargement and FR! I typically put a moderate weight on and dangle for about 30 minutes, or a lighter weight for a longer time under sweat pants. I'll find the link if you're interested.

Captn's wench: Hell, you know this one . I'm really jazzed about the weight that I can put on this thing and the grip that it gives me when doing manual Penis Enlargement. And, it stretches the hell out of the base shaft skin before digging in and stretching the shaft itself. This is great because the other methods that I use tend to focus the FR stretch on the skin closest to the glans.

Cheers! KOT!
Gravesubject

Stuff_ said:

As for the adhesive side of the velcro sticking to the nylon strap, it stuck like anything.

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That's weird. I got most of the stuff for the wench from a fabric store (a hell of a lot closer than the local GallMart), and the only straping that they had was really smooth and shiney. Oh, well. My wench has rivets... it looks manly :D