Theory behind not pumping before SG?

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Recently I have been pumping with the Bathmate before I use the Sizegenetics. I get great pumps and although it is hard to squeeze into the SG after about ten minutes I can get it on. I have had no problems with the order of Bathmate to SG and I would think that after being expanded it is easier to attain a better stretch due to the fact that you just used the Bathmate. I have read posts saying not to do it this way and I couldn't really see how this would be an issue. Again I have been doing this for 2 weeks so far (pump before SG) and really enjoy my expansions. Why would pumping before SG hinder length gains at all? Wouldn't it be beneficial because the penis is warmed up and full of blood giving better flow and expansion with the SG?
 
i dont think the order isnt preferred by users due to a hindrance of gains but mostly because some get FR after a Bathmate session and the SG will push the lymph around making a ugly mess...additionally some may find the base girth of the SG prohibitive after a good Bathmate session...as long as its working for you thats all that matters!!
 
I ran into the the trouble of the "ugly mess" created by the order of Bathmate SG. Freaked me out big time. If you don't get FR than good on you.
 
I know the feeling you are talking about as I use my SG in the morning workouts and pump work at night and its fun some mornings to get into the SG would be nice if extenders made a wider base. But in the same workouts it is preferred to stretch before girth work. But if it works for you go for it. This is a journey that we learn what works for each of us.
 
dsm4life420;533438 said:
i dont think the order isnt preferred by users due to a hindrance of gains but mostly because some get FR after a Bathmate session and the SG will push the lymph around making a ugly mess...additionally some may find the base girth of the SG prohibitive after a good Bathmate session...as long as its working for you thats all that matters!!
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What is FR? Fluid retention? I never get fluid retention after my Bathmate because I ssj and use it for only 25 min max. with supersets. Ya after 10 min of trying to get it on I have a great stretch all day and into the night. It's like my tissues are relaxed from the Bathmate and ready to stretch. Do you all see this really hurting my gains though? I can't imagine it being too different gain wise because your penis is being used in both devices anyway. The order shouldn't really make or break your overall gains right?
 
I do it in that order when I can, I think it will actually help with growth, not hinder it. As you said, the tissue is pre-stretched and well warmed up. I use the PMP attachment and the expanded head coming out of the Bathmate helps get a good hold in the PMP without having to use too much vacuum. I seem to be able to max out my SG rod configuration quicker when I use the Bathmate first, probably because of the pre-stretch.
 
dickfordays;533443 said:
I do it in that order when I can, I think it will actually help with growth, not hinder it. As you said, the tissue is pre-stretched and well warmed up. I use the PMP attachment and the expanded head coming out of the Bathmate helps get a good hold in the PMP without having to use too much vacuum. I seem to be able to max out my SG rod configuration quicker when I use the Bathmate first, probably because of the pre-stretch.
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Yes! This is what I feel to be true for me as well! I assume everyone is different when it comes to the order of these devices but from what I am reading it looks like if you don't suffer from fluid retention and your stretch in the SG is optimal then pumping before could be benicicial. However if one suffers from fluid retention or simply prefers the way the SG feels beforehand then that may be benicicial to them! All and all I don't see any gain hinderences in either order. I could be wrong but that is my assumption from these posts.
 
Actually, RedWood, I think you're on the right track. I would use my Bathmate sometimes for about 8 minutes before my stretch session because the Bathmate opens of the tissues making it more ciceptable to being stretched. Most likely, they don't recommendit because usually length work is done before girth work, and also the previous mentionings of Fluid Retention and the base girth being too large for the opening of the SG.
For those having that problem, I would suggest puTting the Bathemate on for 5 min, off (stretch or jelq during the rest time), then back on for 5 min. The expansion is incredible and there is no means for fluid to build up because you are evening out the distribution of pressure.
 
Bishop, this is what I do as well, when I use the Bathmate before using the SG, I do a lighter, shorter session. I still get good expansion but I don't use the Bathmate like I do when I'm going for a good girth work out. This way, I have no FR at all and it serves the purpose of a good warm-up and pre-stretch.
 
dickfordays;533449 said:
Bishop, this is what I do as well, when I use the Bathmate before using the SG, I do a lighter, shorter session. I still get good expansion but I don't use the Bathmate like I do when I'm going for a good girth work out. This way, I have no FR at all and it serves the purpose of a good warm-up and pre-stretch.
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I just pumped and am now wearing the SG. Feeling great as well! I pumped for 10 then 18 min with ssj in between. Great expansion!
 
RedWood7;533473 said:
I just pumped and am now wearing the SG. Feeling great as well! I pumped for 10 then 18 min with ssj in between. Great expansion!
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Excellent to hear! When is the measure date again!
 
doublelongdaddy;534578 said:
Excellent to hear! When is the measure date again!
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I have no idea! I need to make a plan to measure every 2 months or so. I love my SG though and thanks for the link and the amazing discount. I wouldn't have gotten it without you!!!! I definately think 9 X 6 is attainable by this summer. I want it so bad and obsese about growing! Love Penis Enlargement!
 
RedWood7;534599 said:
I have no idea! I need to make a plan to measure every 2 months or so. I love my SG though and thanks for the link and the amazing discount. I wouldn't have gotten it without you!!!! I definately think 9 X 6 is attainable by this summer. I want it so bad and obsese about growing! Love Penis Enlargement!
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Me and you have the same goal
 
thependulum;534600 said:
Me and you have the same goal
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Great!!!! By summer? or just as a final goal? I want to eventually be 10 inches by 6.5 inches but thats 2 inches length gain and a whole inch in girth gain. That will probably be my size after my first year of Penis Enlargement is over. So by Christmas of 2013!
 
I'm with you on this plan, Redwood. I'm glad you posted this. I was worried about getting into the SG base after pumping because its already tight enough... but paatience and maybe squeezing with ssjs I should fit.

I'm gonna buy a penomet next to complete my set of SRT tools. I hope to gain 1/2 inch girth and 1" length more. Also increase my flaccid so wife sees the bulge running down my leg...
I plan to do girth routine in evening, probably switch off weeks with week 2 being penomet for expanding the tissues then SG for retaining the length stretch. Probably do active stretching too and see if I can Max the bars like you're saying.
In AM I plan to pump for warmup and tissue expansion, then biker lock hang all day at work. Might have to get a lock with more "girth", LOL.

Also I aim to use the penomet for party fun with wife. Just imagine coming out of the shower after a pump session, with an extra fat long huge-on.

I bet it will give her g-spot O's like brothers with 6"+ girth report.
So that's my actual final goal, giving wife intercourse O's. Whatever size and tools do that is good.
 
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LoveHerDeeply;534704 said:
I'm with you on this plan, Redwood. I'm glad you posted this. I was worried about getting into the SG base after pumping because its already tight enough... but paatience and maybe squeezing with ssjs I should fit.

I'm gonna buy a penomet next to complete my set of SRT tools. I hope to gain 1/2 inch girth and 1" length more. Also increase my flaccid so wife sees the bulge running down my leg...
I plan to do girth routine in evening, probably switch off weeks with week 2 being penomet for expanding the tissues then SG for retaining the length stretch. Probably do active stretching too and see if I can Max the bars like you're saying.
In AM I plan to pump for warmup and tissue expansion, then biker lock hang all day at work. Might have to get a lock with more "girth", LOL.

Also I aim to use the penomet for party fun with wife. Just imagine coming out of the shower after a pump session, with an extra fat long huge-on.

I bet it will give her g-spot O's like brothers with 6"+ girth report.
So that's my actual final goal, giving wife intercourse O's. Whatever size and tools do that is good.
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Have fun impressing your wife! Glad to hear this post helped you! Carry on and keep growing !!!!
 
RedWood7;534734 said:
Have fun impressing your wife! Glad to hear this post helped you! Carry on and keep growing !!!!
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Oh, I become so forgetful at times about the value of the reaction from our mates! What a glorious thing it is! I cherish all the posts I hear in this respect, it reminds me, through my celibacy that there is still that victory through my Brothers here!
 
hepcat;536252 said:
Why have you chosen celibacy? Or have you just been having bad luck?
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For God:)
 
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