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hi there,
after about 2 months of wearing phallosan I also wanted to contribute my results. I live in germany and am 20 years old. My wearing times were mostly while in uni or while sleeping that's why I can't give an exact daily timeframe but approx. about ~6h/day.

1.Sep: 1.Nov:
BPenis EnlargementL: 18cm 19cm
NBPenis EnlargementL: 17cm 18cm
BPFL: 11,2cm 12,5cm
NBPFL: 9,7cm 11cm
BPFSL: 19,2 20,7cm
EGbase: 14,4cm 15,1cm
EGmitte: - 13,3cm
FGbase: 11,7cm 11,8cm

(I'll convert the cm to inch later on)

I attached a few pics, although I forgot to take some at the beginning.

Let me know what you think!
 

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+ I also did 100-200 wet-jelqs each morning during the shower.
 
Results in inches:

1.Sep: 1.Nov:
BPenis EnlargementL: 7.09 7.48 +0.39
NBPenis EnlargementL: 6.69 7.09 +0.40
BPFL: 4.41 4.92 +0.51
NBPFL: 3.82 4.33 +0.51
BPFSL: 7.56 8.15 +0.59
EGbase: 5.67 5.94 +0.27
EGmitte: - 5.24
FGbase: 4.61 4.65 +0.04
 
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You gained faster than their website Penis Calculator states: and you did it with less wearing time than they state.

Their website also states that jelqing is bogus: "Gymnastics for enlargement - Jelqing and massage. Recently, gymnastics has been advertised on the Internet as a method of enlargement of the penis. A fantastic marketing gag: only information is being sold – and no-one can be held responsible. For the vendor, who pockets approx. US $ 35.00 for each customer, it is an excellent source of income. But for the customer it is just another source of frustration. A real increase in size, if at all, is visible only after many years of intensive and time-consuming massages. If all we read on such pages is true, why don’t men have huge penises from masturbating?"

As if jelqing and masturbating are the same. If Phallosan worked they wouldn't have this sort of marketing bullshit on their site. The "condom fit" is a catheter type condom which you can get for $7 from just about anywhere. So for $300 it's just another scam: Phalloscam.

Regarding vacuums, the website states: "Vacuum pumps are undoubtedly effective. Disadvantage: The daily wearing time of 3 to 4 hours required for success can usually only be achieved by enduring considerable discomfort and sacrificing valuable leisure time. Be warned against high-performance vacuum pumps with a correspondingly strong suction effect! If the pull is too strong, blood vessels may rupture, resulting in thrombosis. Immediate surgery is inevitable. At the urological department of the Grosshadern Clinic in Munich two or three such operations are performed daily."

Of course their product is simply "vacuum light", but that's perfectly ok. :) The website isn't without humor. Regarding urination: "For hygienic reasons we recommend removing device for urination." Forget the fact your penis is in a closed cup which would fill with urine and then come off spilling urine all over the place.

Also, from what I've read by prior users is that the condoms break and tear frequently and need replacements. Their website alludes to this in the warranty: "PHALLOSAN® provides a 12-month warranty on all parts with the EXCEPTION of the stretch condom." How many times can you stretch a latex condom before breaking it? 10? 20?

They can't publish data that shows how great it is: "The amended version of the German Medical Products Advertising Act prevents us from presenting these press reports of proven effectiveness of a product and clinical studies. We greatly regret this, as the consumer now has no way of distinguishing between products on the basis of clinical studies. We will be pleased to send your physician various publications on the effectiveness of PHALLOSAN®"

Also, their website states that the laws of Malta are in effect with their product and they don't mention Germany at all. So why are they so strictly observing German law if the site is from Malta? On safety they say: "PHALLOSAN® is worn at the user’s risk, but it is perfectly safe."

When asked how much can be gained using their device, they skirt the question with this answer: "Penis lengths of up to 17.7 inches have been measured in males of the Karamojong and Nuba tribes of Central Africa after years of stretching ("Stern" magazine Issue No. 49 dated 30 November 1995). With PHALLOSAN® the penis can be lengthened by 0.8-1.2 inches in only a few months."

So after all these years, no Phallosan user has come forward to show his new 14 inch penis? No one continued to use it for two years? I seriously doubt that.

The fact is it's been around a long time without results. Every so often someone pops up, claims gains and then disappears. The vast majority of reviews are negative: especially if they are over a decent amount of time of usage.

Consider your glans in a negative vacuum for hours on end every day: you will experience fluid build up. You will find that instead of transfering force to penis tissue to induce growth, you instead coerce lymph fluid to fill in the void created by the vacuum thereby reducing the tension to zero. Over time this condition can lead to numerous negative effects including constant itching, stinging sensations and an unsightly appearance.
 
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MoreGains123;359451 said:
You gained faster than their website Penis Calculator states: and you did it with less wearing time than they state.

Their website also states that jelqing is bogus: "Gymnastics for enlargement - Jelqing and massage. Recently, gymnastics has been advertised on the Internet as a method of enlargement of the penis. A fantastic marketing gag: only information is being sold – and no-one can be held responsible. For the vendor, who pockets approx. US $ 35.00 for each customer, it is an excellent source of income. But for the customer it is just another source of frustration. A real increase in size, if at all, is visible only after many years of intensive and time-consuming massages. If all we read on such pages is true, why don’t men have huge penises from masturbating?"

As if jelqing and masturbating are the same. If Phallosan worked they wouldn't have this sort of marketing bullshit on their site. The "condom fit" is a catheter type condom which you can get for $7 from just about anywhere. So for $300 it's just another scam: Phalloscam.

Regarding vacuums, the website states: "Vacuum pumps are undoubtedly effective. Disadvantage: The daily wearing time of 3 to 4 hours required for success can usually only be achieved by enduring considerable discomfort and sacrificing valuable leisure time. Be warned against high-performance vacuum pumps with a correspondingly strong suction effect! If the pull is too strong, blood vessels may rupture, resulting in thrombosis. Immediate surgery is inevitable. At the urological department of the Grosshadern Clinic in Munich two or three such operations are performed daily."

Of course their product is simply "vacuum light", but that's perfectly ok. :) The website isn't without humor. Regarding urination: "For hygienic reasons we recommend removing device for urination." Forget the fact your penis is in a closed cup which would fill with urine and then come off spilling urine all over the place.

Also, from what I've read by prior users is that the condoms break and tear frequently and need replacements. Their website alludes to this in the warranty: "PHALLOSAN® provides a 12-month warranty on all parts with the EXCEPTION of the stretch condom." How many times can you stretch a latex condom before breaking it? 10? 20?

They can't publish data that shows how great it is: "The amended version of the German Medical Products Advertising Act prevents us from presenting these press reports of proven effectiveness of a product and clinical studies. We greatly regret this, as the consumer now has no way of distinguishing between products on the basis of clinical studies. We will be pleased to send your physician various publications on the effectiveness of PHALLOSAN®"

Also, their website states that the laws of Malta are in effect with their product and they don't mention Germany at all. So why are they so strictly observing German law if the site is from Malta? On safety they say: "PHALLOSAN® is worn at the user’s risk, but it is perfectly safe."

When asked how much can be gained using their device, they skirt the question with this answer: "Penis lengths of up to 17.7 inches have been measured in males of the Karamojong and Nuba tribes of Central Africa after years of stretching ("Stern" magazine Issue No. 49 dated 30 November 1995). With PHALLOSAN® the penis can be lengthened by 0.8-1.2 inches in only a few months."

So after all these years, no Phallosan user has come forward to show his new 14 inch penis? No one continued to use it for two years? I seriously doubt that.

The fact is it's been around a long time without results. Every so often someone pops up, claims gains and then disappears. The vast majority of reviews are negative: especially if they are over a decent amount of time of usage.

Consider your glans in a negative vacuum for hours on end every day: you will experience fluid build up. You will find that instead of transfering force to penis tissue to induce growth, you instead coerce lymph fluid to fill in the void created by the vacuum thereby reducing the tension to zero. Over time this condition can lead to numerous negative effects including constant itching, stinging sensations and an unsightly appearance.

So what are you trying to tell us/me ?

The question wasn't "How do you like Phallosan and the company".. I only contributed my personal experience with it.

Due to law they cannot publish the mentioned data but they once sent it to someone from a german messaging board who than published it, showing that every participant increased in length.

That they use "Karamojong and Nuba" as for marketing and say that vacuum pumps don't work is just marketing as anyone else in the industry does too.

Regarding the vacuum and so on. The vacuum is only to keep the Protector Cap in the Bell to than stretch the entire penis. That doesn't effect the glans in a bad way at all if you do it the right way.
 
Phallosan;359577 said:
Due to law they cannot publish the mentioned data but they once sent it to someone from a german messaging board who than published it, showing that every participant increased in length.
There is no German law that prevents anyone from publishing facts. There is so much bullshit on their site now that I serioiusly doubt they'd care about publishing some "truth". Saying that "they sent it to someone else who published it legally" is a joke. You're either an affiliate or very gullible.

Phallosan;359577 said:
That they use "Karamojong and Nuba" as for marketing and say that vacuum pumps don't work is just marketing as anyone else in the industry does too.
They use preposterous examples and then shit on a popular technique. The product won't grow you a 17.7 inch dick and it uses vacuum.

Phallosan;359577 said:
Regarding the vacuum and so on. The vacuum is only to keep the Protector Cap in the Bell to than stretch the entire penis. That doesn't effect the glans in a bad way at all if you do it the right way.
I have the thing and it uses a vacuum. Hours and hours of vacuum is not healthy for lymph circulation.
 
MoreGains123;359451 said:
You gained faster than their website Penis Calculator states: and you did it with less wearing time than they state.

Their website also states that jelqing is bogus: "Gymnastics for enlargement - Jelqing and massage. Recently, gymnastics has been advertised on the Internet as a method of enlargement of the penis. A fantastic marketing gag: only information is being sold – and no-one can be held responsible. For the vendor, who pockets approx. US $ 35.00 for each customer, it is an excellent source of income. But for the customer it is just another source of frustration. A real increase in size, if at all, is visible only after many years of intensive and time-consuming massages. If all we read on such pages is true, why don’t men have huge penises from masturbating?"

As if jelqing and masturbating are the same. If Phallosan worked they wouldn't have this sort of marketing bullshit on their site. The "condom fit" is a catheter type condom which you can get for $7 from just about anywhere. So for $300 it's just another scam: Phalloscam.

Regarding vacuums, the website states: "Vacuum pumps are undoubtedly effective. Disadvantage: The daily wearing time of 3 to 4 hours required for success can usually only be achieved by enduring considerable discomfort and sacrificing valuable leisure time. Be warned against high-performance vacuum pumps with a correspondingly strong suction effect! If the pull is too strong, blood vessels may rupture, resulting in thrombosis. Immediate surgery is inevitable. At the urological department of the Grosshadern Clinic in Munich two or three such operations are performed daily."

Of course their product is simply "vacuum light", but that's perfectly ok. :) The website isn't without humor. Regarding urination: "For hygienic reasons we recommend removing device for urination." Forget the fact your penis is in a closed cup which would fill with urine and then come off spilling urine all over the place.

Also, from what I've read by prior users is that the condoms break and tear frequently and need replacements. Their website alludes to this in the warranty: "PHALLOSAN® provides a 12-month warranty on all parts with the EXCEPTION of the stretch condom." How many times can you stretch a latex condom before breaking it? 10? 20?

They can't publish data that shows how great it is: "The amended version of the German Medical Products Advertising Act prevents us from presenting these press reports of proven effectiveness of a product and clinical studies. We greatly regret this, as the consumer now has no way of distinguishing between products on the basis of clinical studies. We will be pleased to send your physician various publications on the effectiveness of PHALLOSAN®"

Also, their website states that the laws of Malta are in effect with their product and they don't mention Germany at all. So why are they so strictly observing German law if the site is from Malta? On safety they say: "PHALLOSAN® is worn at the user’s risk, but it is perfectly safe."

When asked how much can be gained using their device, they skirt the question with this answer: "Penis lengths of up to 17.7 inches have been measured in males of the Karamojong and Nuba tribes of Central Africa after years of stretching ("Stern" magazine Issue No. 49 dated 30 November 1995). With PHALLOSAN® the penis can be lengthened by 0.8-1.2 inches in only a few months."

So after all these years, no Phallosan user has come forward to show his new 14 inch penis? No one continued to use it for two years? I seriously doubt that.

The fact is it's been around a long time without results. Every so often someone pops up, claims gains and then disappears. The vast majority of reviews are negative: especially if they are over a decent amount of time of usage.

Consider your glans in a negative vacuum for hours on end every day: you will experience fluid build up. You will find that instead of transfering force to penis tissue to induce growth, you instead coerce lymph fluid to fill in the void created by the vacuum thereby reducing the tension to zero. Over time this condition can lead to numerous negative effects including constant itching, stinging sensations and an unsightly appearance.

Hey, wait, wait, wait! I just want to make this drama clear...
In other words, the creator is lying? Or am I missing something?
Keep up the conversation dudes! Interessting
 
I think the fact they have these two paragraphs says it all:

"Gymnastics for enlargement - Jelqing and massage. Recently, gymnastics has been advertised on the Internet as a method of enlargement of the penis. A fantastic marketing gag: only information is being sold – and no-one can be held responsible. For the vendor, who pockets approx. US $ 35.00 for each customer, it is an excellent source of income. But for the customer it is just another source of frustration. A real increase in size, if at all, is visible only after many years of intensive and time-consuming massages. If all we read on such pages is true, why don’t men have huge penises from masturbating?"

This states they think masturbation is the same as jelqing and that manual exercise doesn't work.

"Vacuum pumps are undoubtedly effective. Disadvantage: The daily wearing time of 3 to 4 hours required for success can usually only be achieved by enduring considerable discomfort and sacrificing valuable leisure time. Be warned against high-performance vacuum pumps with a correspondingly strong suction effect! If the pull is too strong, blood vessels may rupture, resulting in thrombosis. Immediate surgery is inevitable. At the urological department of the Grosshadern Clinic in Munich two or three such operations are performed daily."

This states pumping requires 3 to 4 hours a day. We all know you can't/shouldn't pump 3 to 4 hours per day. Also a ruptured blood vessel is not thrombosis. Thrombosis is a clot. So much for their doctors.

If they can't sell their product on its own merits, it's suspect. But using lies cements it as just another scam.
 
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I don't care what they write or not write on their website.. All I care about are the results and those have been satisfying for the first 2 months - that's all that should matter. On Dec. 1 I'll measure again and will see what it'll bring..

P.S.: I attached the medical study which was published on a german messaging board p.p. by Phallosan.

first red column is increase in girth after 6 months in cm
second red column is increase in flaccid length after 6 months in cm
third red column is increase of stretched flaccid length after 6 months in cm
 

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They should send you a free one for all the work you're doing for them. You're so nice.

On the matter of lies and misleading statements: dismissing this with "I don't care what they write or not write on their website" isn't good enough for most of us.

If it worked, there would be no need for lies. If it worked, there would be no need for misleading statements. If it worked, all their website would need to be is an order form. But it doesn't work, therefore the lying is needed.

Your gain of less than 0.39 inches can easily be attributed to any stretching effort. Hitting 1 inch and more is when a product can be taken seriously.

Also there's a good chance that a decon break would lose every bit of a 0.39 gain. Don't get me wrong: I'm all for products that work. If the phallosan were $59 it could be an amusing addition to a Penis Enlargement tool box. But at $300 combined with all the B.S. they spew: it's a total scam. A Phalloscam.
 
MoreGains123;360122 said:
Also there's a good chance that a decon break would lose every bit of a 0.39 gain. Don't get me wrong: I'm all for products that work. If the phallosan were $59 it could be an amusing addition to a Penis Enlargement tool box. But at $300 combined with all the B.S. they spew: it's a total scam. A Phalloscam.

But explain me.. apart from all the statements regarding other products and whatnot on their website .. how is it a a scam if they tell you that you can gain 0.9cm (0.35") and I actually gained even more: 1cm (0.39"). I don't see the word scam fitting here as they don't promise you anything they can't hold. Writing false things about other products don't make their own product a scam..
 
MoreGains123;360122 said:
If it worked, there would be no need for lies. If it worked, there would be no need for misleading statements. If it worked, all their website would need to be is an order form.

Your gain of less than 0.39 inches can easily be attributed to any stretching effort. Hitting 1 inch and more is when a product can be taken seriously.
I agree with this poster's comments.

I have never read about anyone who used this product for a period longer than a few months or who gained anything worth posting about. I have been on the forums for almost 4 years and read them pretty faithfully.
 
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MoreGains123,

I have read (or at least skimmed) most of your posts and threads, following the journey of my skeptical pal, Stevie, and I have to congratulate you, man,
on your objectivity, your knowledge, and your kind support.

If I ever decided to use a stretcher, (not likely, though), you are the man I would consult. :)

Keep up the great work. You are an asset to the forum.

Sincerely,

Goin'
 
MoreGains123;359451 said:
You gained faster than their website Penis Calculator states: and you did it with less wearing time than they state.

Their website also states that jelqing is bogus: "Gymnastics for enlargement - Jelqing and massage. Recently, gymnastics has been advertised on the Internet as a method of enlargement of the penis. A fantastic marketing gag: only information is being sold – and no-one can be held responsible. For the vendor, who pockets approx. US $ 35.00 for each customer, it is an excellent source of income. But for the customer it is just another source of frustration. A real increase in size, if at all, is visible only after many years of intensive and time-consuming massages. If all we read on such pages is true, why don’t men have huge penises from masturbating?"

As if jelqing and masturbating are the same. If Phallosan worked they wouldn't have this sort of marketing bullshit on their site. The "condom fit" is a catheter type condom which you can get for $7 from just about anywhere. So for $300 it's just another scam: Phalloscam.

I thought that the comparison between jelqing and masturbating is wrong too. Even though certain masturbation techniques have something in common with jelqing. I understand they try to turn down competing ways of PE and I think that was wrong.

Didn't know about catheter type condoms but I wonder how they can be compared with the Phallosan chamber-condom combination. The Phallosan has a vacuum chamber with a spring mechanism attached and a condom for better vacuum. You can't use a catheter condom like this because you don't have a structure to pull on. And the condom alternatives are hard to find as shown in the MOS condom sleeve alternative thread.



MoreGains123;359451 said:
Regarding vacuums, the website states: "Vacuum pumps are undoubtedly effective. Disadvantage: The daily wearing time of 3 to 4 hours required for success can usually only be achieved by enduring considerable discomfort and sacrificing valuable leisure time. Be warned against high-performance vacuum pumps with a correspondingly strong suction effect! If the pull is too strong, blood vessels may rupture, resulting in thrombosis. Immediate surgery is inevitable. At the urological department of the Grosshadern Clinic in Munich two or three such operations are performed daily."

Of course their product is simply "vacuum light", but that's perfectly ok. :) The website isn't without humor. Regarding urination: "For hygienic reasons we recommend removing device for urination." Forget the fact your penis is in a closed cup which would fill with urine and then come off spilling urine all over the place.

The Phallosan sucks all parts of the penis tip against the chamber walls, therefore the vacuum is not really pulling on the penis but it is keeping it in position. Therefore it can't be compared to penis pumps. Also my custom made chamber is used at about 10inHg vacuum so it is not really light vacuum.


MoreGains123;359451 said:
Also, from what I've read by prior users is that the condoms break and tear frequently and need replacements. Their website alludes to this in the warranty: "PHALLOSAN® provides a 12-month warranty on all parts with the EXCEPTION of the stretch condom." How many times can you stretch a latex condom before breaking it? 10? 20?

Condoms will last about 3-6 months they say but I have used mine for 9 months. I compare it to my LG vacuum hanger which has condoms for 28 dollar per piece, about the same quality - but the Phallosan condoms are much thinner, yet they are strong enough.



MoreGains123;359451 said:
They can't publish data that shows how great it is: "The amended version of the German Medical Products Advertising Act prevents us from presenting these press reports of proven effectiveness of a product and clinical studies. We greatly regret this, as the consumer now has no way of distinguishing between products on the basis of clinical studies. We will be pleased to send your physician various publications on the effectiveness of PHALLOSAN®"

This seems to be new, I do have the study about growth where they have proven how effective it is. From the study it became clear that most gains were made with people that have a penis below average. People who started at 18cm barely gained. Through extrapolation of the data it becomes apparent that the gains decrease exponentially with starting length. Basically they predict them to be zero if you start above 18cm.


MoreGains123;359451 said:
Also, their website states that the laws of Malta are in effect with their product and they don't mention Germany at all. So why are they so strictly observing German law if the site is from Malta? On safety they say: "PHALLOSAN® is worn at the user’s risk, but it is perfectly safe."

Phallosan is shipped from Malta, that I know for sure. I think the system was developed in Germany or Switzerland but manufacturing is in Malta. Regarding safety because of a chaotic policy of laws in Germany and in Europe in general the regulations are so strict that you are not allowed to market a product to be safe even though your own tests have shown that they will be safe. Basically everything has to be verified using expensive techniques which no company can afford. The entire industry is pushed by the new laws which ask for more and more tax money all the time.

MoreGains123;359451 said:
When asked how much can be gained using their device, they skirt the question with this answer: "Penis lengths of up to 17.7 inches have been measured in males of the Karamojong and Nuba tribes of Central Africa after years of stretching ("Stern" magazine Issue No. 49 dated 30 November 1995). With PHALLOSAN® the penis can be lengthened by 0.8-1.2 inches in only a few months."

So after all these years, no Phallosan user has come forward to show his new 14 inch penis? No one continued to use it for two years? I seriously doubt that.

As I said the device is supposed to work up until 18cm, the smaller you start, the bigger the gains (according to the study).


MoreGains123;359451 said:
The fact is it's been around a long time without results. Every so often someone pops up, claims gains and then disappears. The vast majority of reviews are negative: especially if they are over a decent amount of time of usage.

It seems like the PE community consists of people who don't want to spend a lot of money on producs. I don't see many using the product. Also the attitude of users is very tight so that many people show up who want to get reimbursed just after two days without even getting to know the product. The Phallosan is a simple system once you have understood how it works. But people don't just come up with such a product themselves. I paid for the development and putting everything into action. Designing this thing myself would have taken much more money because of testing and problems.

MoreGains123;359451 said:
Consider your glans in a negative vacuum for hours on end every day: you will experience fluid build up. You will find that instead of transfering force to penis tissue to induce growth, you instead coerce lymph fluid to fill in the void created by the vacuum thereby reducing the tension to zero. Over time this condition can lead to numerous negative effects including constant itching, stinging sensations and an unsightly appearance.

This is wrong because the skin is sucked against the chamber wall. Therefore no fluid can build up. It depends on how you tape the glans. If you tape it in a certain way then the foreskin might not be able to fill the vacuum chamber and the space allows fluid buildup.
 
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