Question for DLD and Others

Hi everyone,

So I started hanging again a few months ago and everything has been going well. I recently, as in the past week or two, switched from doing two hour long sets a day to one 30 minute set with more of a focus on hardcore hanging.

DashDeming, the OP from the hardcore hanging sticky, mentioned that he does some dry jelqing after each hanging set. I do not like to dry jelq and wet jelqing is a bit too messy for my present situation, so what I have decided to do is do some clamped edging for 10 minutes after my daily hanging set.

DLD, what is your view on combining hanging and clamped edging? Bib says that no hardcore girth work should be done when doing a hanging routine, but is what I am doing ok? Do you think I will see quicker gains by combining length work with a bit of girth?


Thanks

As you can see in my thread ( http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/85195-length-gaining-mechanics.html ) -2nd post- this is more of a SWM/Dash method rather than BIB method. The link given by SWM leads to another forum where he's explained it and why he thinks this method is better, give it a read. I read it and I liked it to be honest.

Now the reasons why Bib is so "against" mixing length and girth are:

1- Hanging while edema is present might lead to pain (stinging skin pain), which would make the PEer discontinue his hanging session (which does ruin the session).
2- Physically speaking- stretching a thin object is much easier than stretching a thick object (because if the thin object's girth has 100 cells that need to be stretched, the thick one does have 100+ (depending on how thick it is) cells that need to be stretched, therefore making the process of length gaining somewhat harder and slower).

I think that as long as edema is not present during your hanging sessions (which would make the process unpleasant and possibly ruin your hanging session) it should be all ok. To be honest- of course you'd gain more if you put on an extender or some ADS or do any type of length work afterwards, but girth would help you further gain as well (length and girth-wise, while further extending through streching/Extending with an extender/applying Penis ADS/ANS would bring better length gains, but if you prefer having both worked on- I guess it's all good).

This reminds me of this thread of DLD's ( http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...m/3133-the-penis-is-a-balloon-not-a-rope.html ). So, I think that:

1- Yes, girth work does compliment length work (not as much as adding more length work after the hanging session though).
2- Yes, you can mix hanging and clamping (if no edema is present during the hanging session).
3- Yes, it might take you a bit more time to reach the length desired, but you'll be working on girth as well.

That's just my 2 cents. It would be interesting to hear what others think here as well. All the best, Zam!

Zambrodom3;630232 said:

2- Physically speaking- stretching a thin object is much easier than stretching a thick object (because if the thin object's girth has 100 cells that need to be stretched, the thick one does have 100+ (depending on how thick it is) cells that need to be stretched, therefore making the process of length gaining somewhat harder and slower.

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Wouldn't this imply that stretching a thicker penis would result in a similar amount of growth in mass, despite length coming at a potentially slower rate? And past that, is it impossible that using a thicker object might produce a greater overall stretch just because there's simply more material to stretch?

For instance, with two long balloons of equal length but one is marginally wider by some like an inch in circumference, you could surely stretch the wider one more. The difference in the total force required to reach the maximum stretch would be negligible and shifted to the context of pe, entirely tolerable. Of course, if you try to stretch a traditional round balloon the force required is going to sky rocket.

And there's always the tunica kind of limiting that comparison. Still, it really isn't as much of a difference and it's not like you're choosing what cells divide. The cell density doesn't increase because you have more penis. And the tension per area shouldn't be at all different. A thicker object has a higher capacity to stretch, even though it would surely take more force. And in pe it's not like we're talking a 50 pound difference.

Suffice to say I think it will work despite girth, and it stands to reason that the difference in gains would be negligible.

Better example, two rubber bands of equal length. One twice as thick. The smaller stretches easier, but you can ultimately stretch the thicker one longer.

Based on a combination of what both of you said and my personal preferences I think I am going to only stick to hanging for at least the next month or two. If doing the clamped edging isn't going to specifically and significantly add to my length goals I would rather not do it. I guess if I don't see the results I want or gains are slightly slower than expected I will just go back to doing 2 hours a day or as much as I can squeeze in.

Thank you gents!

even i have been considering to start my new routine with focusing on one thing only..

Longth;630276 said:

Wouldn't this imply that stretching a thicker penis would result in a similar amount of growth in mass, despite length coming at a potentially slower rate? And past that, is it impossible that using a thicker object might produce a greater overall stretch just because there's simply more material to stretch?

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What do you mean? If an object is thicker- it would definitely require more strength to stretch (as your pulling force would have to be sufficient to stretch a number of cells greater than the thinner one has) and it would in fact stretch more slowly (or at least the end result would be such, as the process of mitosis would have to occur on a larger scale (because girth increases penises size in many dimensions, making its volume much bigger). Of course 100 cells would divide much faster than 250 (as girth increses the volume of the penis drastically (depending on expansion)) and would have to be stretched more lightly to go to that process.

Longth;630276 said:

For instance, with two long balloons of equal length but one is marginally wider by some like an inch in circumference, you could surely stretch the wider one more. The difference in the total force required to reach the maximum stretch would be negligible and shifted to the context of pe, entirely tolerable. Of course, if you try to stretch a traditional round balloon the force required is going to sky rocket.

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How is the wider balloon going to be stretched more? What is the logic behind it, can you explain (I am just asking, absolutely NO offensive tone (because some people around get offended when I ask them to further explain as I do not understand their statement ), just want to see what you mean )

Longth;630276 said:

And there's always the tunica kind of limiting that comparison. Still, it really isn't as much of a difference and it's not like you're choosing what cells divide. The cell density doesn't increase because you have more penis. And the tension per area shouldn't be at all different. A thicker object has a higher capacity to stretch, even though it would surely take more force. And in pe it's not like we're talking a 50 pound difference.

Suffice to say I think it will work despite girth, and it stands to reason that the difference in gains would be negligible.

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Well, as the volume of the penis increases (the tunica)- the cell numbers do change (though MAYBE density does not).

To summarize, thinner means less material to stretch, while thicker means more. If you have more material, the potential stretched length is longer than if you have less material. Using more force to merit the same or greater overall stretch could mean that a fatter penis could actually be a good thing for length work. While with a thinner penis you can reach a higher overall pull with less force.

I'd call the difference in force required to optimize a stretch negligible, but most likely noticeable. So while it may be true that stretching a thinner object is easier, ultimately, a thicker one has a higher potential to grow more rapidly. After a certain point of force, stretching the penis gets to be dangerous and unhealthy. Max healthy tension for both will be the same. The big one will just require more force.

Hell if I actually know. Just popped in my head with a few examples when I read your post. I'd like to think I'm right because my flaccid size is too big to get into a toilet paper roll. Pe is remarkably complex.

Longth;630308 said:

To summarize, thinner means less material to stretch, while thicker means more. If you have more material, the potential stretched length is longer than if you have less material.

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Well it is true that (even though the process is slower) you can in fact stretch a higher number of cells on a girthy penis (because of its higher volume), but that would not make gains better than stretching a thin penis. It is like having a penis long (100x) and thick (400x) and another penis long (100x) and think (200x) (just simple example numbers). When you stretch the (100x) length, (400x) girth penis- you would indeed strech more cells (as girth increases the volume of the penis in more than a single dimension in size), but stretching the (100x) long and (200x) thick penis (while having stretched less number of cells) would have better length gains. The overall GAIN (of both length and girth when it comes to cell division) of the thicker penis would be indeed better, but the length ONLY gain of the thinner penis would be in fact better (and a lot faster as the more cells are being stretched, the more time it would take for a penis to gain a certain amount of X length).

P.S- F*cking MASSIVE flaccid you have!!!!!

I'm thinking it may be possible to get the girthier one to grow at the same rate length wise if extra force is used to compensate. I'd think so long as it isn't causing pain those horses could run side by side. Or at least unbearable pain.

Doesn't really change much for me. That's the slowest part of length work by far anyway. Between tunica work, rks, and expressive stretching, the bulk of it comes from within. Who ever thought they'd say they'd be siked to deform their body huh?

And thanks for the complimentary compliment.

Longth said:

Better example, two rubber bands of equal length. One twice as thick. The smaller stretches easier, but you can ultimately stretch the thicker one longer.

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Glad I got to 8.25 inches before adding girth work to my length routine. I believe it's a bit tough to stretch a very thick penis.

This is why length should always be before girth

DLD said:

This is why length should always be before girth

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True words.