LONGERDICK7+;721703 said:
Kepping my hands away from the D is ok,2 days only 2 days and i just cant help it need to knock one off no matter what..lol

It's not easy I tell you
 
Two nights now I have battled with sexual demons the who night through. Awake constantly, thoughts becoming toxic, the 'anger' of the psyche when it is deprived of it's demands! It amazes me how these attack come upon me only when sleeping or falling into sleep. God forbid I be a drunk, I would surely fall constantly! So upon my last falling (more than a month ago) I spoke of a pattern of sorts. A series of small steps from innocence to full out hard core �naked people movies� to jerking off for hours! Last night I recognized the pattern in it's infancy! I was able to see where some very innocent steps brought me deeper and deeper into the knowledge of the pattern and the ability to stop it dead in it's tracks! I can say with great pride, I did no fall, I did not succumb under pressure, as tormenting the temptations were I only became stronger in my determination to take that demon out with ak47! I went from praying, to taking my medication, to putting on the files, to picking up my phone, to a tv application, to Youtube bloopers, to seeing news reporters with sexy clothes, to...interference....STOP! The interference was the spam of the videos, they were in no way sexy, they were adds and such. The STOP came when I thought to myself, I wonder if GOD made that happen? I prayed a bit and fell asleep. The remainder of the night was waking up every hour with one dreaming temp to the next. I never became upset once. I just sat up and said to myself, 'well if this is God's will so be it mine! And I used every wake up as an opportunity to practice this acceptance and give the rest to God. It seems to me that when I suffer for what ever reason, if I can give it up to God and find joy in the suffering I become stronger because of it. I think this is a virtue that will be applicable in so many other areas in life where I am presented with a challenge, a failure, a disappointment, a bad nights sleep:) I think if I would have only seen the suffering I would not have made it through the temptation itself. I hope that makes sense to someone :)
 
yep demons take no breaks lol they want to screw people up everyday..lol

some people can explain and understand things the way you do, some dont..:p
 
I made it 11 days, and I fell off. Then felt bad for caving. Then I gave myself credit for going 11 days, which is probably the longest stretch I have ever had. So a new streak has started, and it has been 3 days. Masturbating had become a daily routine...to the point where you do it because it's what you've always done. Until I realized it had become a crutch for not facing my fears of a real relationship with a woman. A realization that I don't date, or even try.
 
doublelongdaddy;721735 said:
Two nights now I have battled with sexual demons the who night through. Awake constantly, thoughts becoming toxic, the 'anger' of the psyche when it is deprived of it's demands! It amazes me how these attack come upon me only when sleeping or falling into sleep. God forbid I be a drunk, I would surely fall constantly! So upon my last falling (more than a month ago) I spoke of a pattern of sorts. A series of small steps from innocence to full out hard core �naked people movies� to jerking off for hours! Last night I recognized the pattern in it's infancy! I was able to see where some very innocent steps brought me deeper and deeper into the knowledge of the pattern and the ability to stop it dead in it's tracks! I can say with great pride, I did no fall, I did not succumb under pressure, as tormenting the temptations were I only became stronger in my determination to take that demon out with ak47! I went from praying, to taking my medication, to putting on the files, to picking up my phone, to a tv application, to Youtube bloopers, to seeing news reporters with sexy clothes, to...interference....STOP! The interference was the spam of the videos, they were in no way sexy, they were adds and such. The STOP came when I thought to myself, I wonder if GOD made that happen? I prayed a bit and fell asleep. The remainder of the night was waking up every hour with one dreaming temp to the next. I never became upset once. I just sat up and said to myself, 'well if this is God's will so be it mine! And I used every wake up as an opportunity to practice this acceptance and give the rest to God. It seems to me that when I suffer for what ever reason, if I can give it up to God and find joy in the suffering I become stronger because of it. I think this is a virtue that will be applicable in so many other areas in life where I am presented with a challenge, a failure, a disappointment, a bad nights sleep:) I think if I would have only seen the suffering I would not have made it through the temptation itself. I hope that makes sense to someone :)

This makes sense and I can relate to the torments you went through that night. I really wish I can hold off masturbation for a long period of time. I will be getting myself a girlfriend at least by June. The urge to masturbate is too bad and sex with a partner is one sure way to combat it. I fell yesterday, I masturbated 3 times.
 
tbone77;721763 said:
I made it 11 days, and I fell off. Then felt bad for caving. Then I gave myself credit for going 11 days, which is probably the longest stretch I have ever had. So a new streak has started, and it has been 3 days. Masturbating had become a daily routine...to the point where you do it because it's what you've always done. Until I realized it had become a crutch for not facing my fears of a real relationship with a woman. A realization that I don't date, or even try.

It is never the fall that keeps us down, it is the guilt and guilt comes from an unproductive place. After making 11 days and falling is a huge victory but success remains in how quickly you get up and turn the guilt to conviction.
 
LONGERDICK7+;721759 said:
yep demons take no breaks lol they want to screw people up everyday..lol

some people can explain and understand things the way you do, some dont..:p

No they do not and when they see opportunity they invade. I am very strong and when I am aware I can deal with many attacks in every way. It is when I do not have my faculties that I am attacked. PUSSY ASS DEMONS, they are cowards! Last night another night or attack but I gave every bit of torment to God and I simply prayed and went back o sleep.



huge-girth;721787 said:
This makes sense and I can relate to the torments you went through that night. I really wish I can hold off masturbation for a long period of time. I will be getting myself a girlfriend at least by June. The urge to masturbate is too bad and sex with a partner is one sure way to combat it. I fell yesterday, I masturbated 3 times.


When we do fall the one thing that is worst than guilt is a continuous spiral down the drain, this surely makes the fall harder to rise from. It is that 'fuck it, I fucked up already, might as well go all out' attitude that eats away our resolve and puts you back in the control of it more than you having the control. This is nothing that should be dwelled on too long, but it does warrant a longer reflection on how you will deal with it next time and how quickly you can rebound.
 
LONGERDICK7+;721759 said:
yep demons take no breaks lol they want to screw people up everyday..lol

some people can explain and understand things the way you do, some dont..:p

They're always watching waiting for opportunities to take action. Best way is to get them away is to not believe in them or acknowledge they are there but make them weak by telling them to fuck off.
 
doublelongdaddy;721810 said:
It is never the fall that keeps us down, it is the guilt and guilt comes from an unproductive place. After making 11 days and falling is a huge victory but success remains in how quickly you get up and turn the guilt to conviction.

In this post I have seen one of my weakness after a fall. Whenever I exceed 4 days abstaining from masturbation and when I eventually masturbate, I tend to masturbate twice on that day and resume masturbating the next day. After abstaining from masturbation for some time and when we eventually fall, we shouldn't use that fall to masturbate more than one time, just one ejaculation and that's all.
 
I'm still wondering how is one doing proper girth workout without masturbation (and �naked people movies�)?

Okay, one could take a ton of Viagra but other than that...?
 
Am I the only one here that objects to the notion of 'falling'? May as well just say 'fail'...same thing, same connotations. These are extremely negative phrases which will impact your psyche and send you even further down this 'imagined' spiral to Hell or equivalent. I'm going to rehash what Mike mentioned several weeks ago regarding privilege:

Alcohol, masturbation, drugs, �naked people movies�, eating, etc. are all privileges and as such, can be experienced and enjoyed as a normal part of life. Once any activity begins to negatively impact your life or, God forbid, any one else's life, then you no longer get that privilege. I've always said that it's not the drug/alcohol/�naked people movies�/etc. that bothers me, it's the behavior. I think the question should be asked, 'is _____ having a negative impact?' If so, eliminate or modify. I'd tread very lightly when you're trying to battle Mother Nature...she always prevails, so when it comes to males, procreation is our primary objective and if we don't have an 'outlet' we tend to get backed-up. Nature has an emergency release mechanism, (nocturnal emissions), but masturbating works as well, (if not better). Trying to fight against what nature has intended is only going to create frustration when you lose...maybe it's time to look at this from a different perspective. Instead of thinking this is something you have to 'control', think of it as something that you can 'manage'...seemingly synonymous, but your brain perceives the two very differently. Eliminating the 'fall/fail' conundrum will set your mind free from the negativity that surrounds addictive behavior and maybe give you a fighting chance to 'manage'
 
Munto;721887 said:
I'm still wondering how is one doing proper girth workout without masturbation (and �naked people movies�)?

Okay, one could take a ton of Viagra but other than that...?

I'm not training at the moment but I've been thinking about this question you asked. Without �naked people movies�, you can use viagra to get an erection. But I don't know about the �naked people movies� part cause I never tried.
 
Big Schwanz Acht;721906 said:
Am I the only one here that objects to the notion of 'falling'? May as well just say 'fail'...same thing, same connotations. These are extremely negative phrases which will impact your psyche and send you even further down this 'imagined' spiral to Hell or equivalent. I'm going to rehash what Mike mentioned several weeks ago regarding privilege:

Alcohol, masturbation, drugs, �naked people movies�, eating, etc. are all privileges and as such, can be experienced and enjoyed as a normal part of life. Once any activity begins to negatively impact your life or, God forbid, any one else's life, then you no longer get that privilege. I've always said that it's not the drug/alcohol/�naked people movies�/etc. that bothers me, it's the behavior. I think the question should be asked, 'is _____ having a negative impact?' If so, eliminate or modify. I'd tread very lightly when you're trying to battle Mother Nature...she always prevails, so when it comes to males, procreation is our primary objective and if we don't have an 'outlet' we tend to get backed-up. Nature has an emergency release mechanism, (nocturnal ), but masturbating works as well, (if not better). Trying to fight against what nature has intended is only going to create frustration when you lose...maybe it's time to look at this from a different perspective. Instead of thinking this is something you have to 'control', think of it as something that you can 'manage'...seemingly synonymous, but your brain perceives the two very differently. Eliminating the 'fall/fail' conundrum will set your mind free from the negativity that surrounds addictive behavior and maybe give you a fighting chance to 'manage'

I get your point in this quote. For me, I'm not trying to stop masturbating most especially when I don't have a girlfriend at the moment. But I think one should be able to hold off masturbation for some time at least a week or two for those without a girlfriend and still doing PE. But then remember I'm not doing PE at this time therefore, its a different story entirely. It will be difficult for those doing PE to abstain from masturbation when they don't have a girlfriend.
 
huge-girth;721930 said:
I get your point in this quote. For me, I'm not trying to stop masturbating most especially when I don't have a girlfriend at the moment. But I think one should be able to hold off masturbation for some time at least a week or two for those without a girlfriend and still doing PE. But then remember I'm not doing PE at this time therefore, its a different story entirely. It will be difficult for those doing PE to abstain from masturbation when they don't have a girlfriend.

this is the situation I'm in. Still training.
 
tbone77;721953 said:
this is the situation I'm in. Still training.

Try to hold masturbation off for at least 2 weeks. if you can master this pattern, you will improve.
 
huge-girth;721969 said:
Try to hold masturbation off for at least 2 weeks. if you can master this pattern, you will improve.

the masturbation or aid in gains? Or both?
 
Big Schwanz Acht;721906 said:
Am I the only one here that objects to the notion of 'falling'? May as well just say 'fail'...same thing, same connotations. These are extremely negative phrases which will impact your psyche and send you even further down this 'imagined' spiral to Hell or equivalent. I'm going to rehash what Mike mentioned several weeks ago regarding privilege:

Alcohol, masturbation, drugs, �naked people movies�, eating, etc. are all privileges and as such, can be experienced and enjoyed as a normal part of life. Once any activity begins to negatively impact your life or, God forbid, any one else's life, then you no longer get that privilege. I've always said that it's not the drug/alcohol/�naked people movies�/etc. that bothers me, it's the behavior. I think the question should be asked, 'is _____ having a negative impact?' If so, eliminate or modify. I'd tread very lightly when you're trying to battle Mother Nature...she always prevails, so when it comes to males, procreation is our primary objective and if we don't have an 'outlet' we tend to get backed-up. Nature has an emergency release mechanism, (nocturnal emissions), but masturbating works as well, (if not better). Trying to fight against what nature has intended is only going to create frustration when you lose...maybe it's time to look at this from a different perspective. Instead of thinking this is something you have to 'control', think of it as something that you can 'manage'...seemingly synonymous, but your brain perceives the two very differently. Eliminating the 'fall/fail' conundrum will set your mind free from the negativity that surrounds addictive behavior and maybe give you a fighting chance to 'manage'

I have been using fall in different sense here as in a more positive light but maybe saying 'an opportunity to get up' would be a positive light to see it in but still I wanted Brotherly-help attached to this process. As I stated in the quote a fall/fail were equivalent in the language I was using which pertained to failure. I have been using the work fall differently here in the light of it not being a failure but a chance to ask for a hand up. My language could have been better and the mix up would not be so different. I attune much of what I say to my spiritual beliefs and when I am referring to the falls I am attaching them to the falls of Christ in carrying His cross. In this sense I am trying to instill that if Christ fell and got up over and over until He accomplished His mission, so can we. I hope that clears this up and I will be more conscious of my language as I move forward.
 
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