PE can lead to masturbation sometimes girth exercises are the ones that could take you there,I have done girth exercises and i havent masturbated.

Sounds simple but just dont do it and the problem is solved youd get used to that...
 
LONGERDICK7+;716796 said:
PE can lead to masturbation sometimes girth exercises are the ones that could take you there,I have done girth exercises and i havent masturbated.

Sounds simple but just dont do it and the problem is solved youd get used to that...

I feel like im obligated not to masturbate every training session because I mentally trick myself that if i do i will lose gains. Its helped so far.
 
k80589;716786 said:
Hi DLD, I am a Christian, too, and have been thinking about this for quite some time. Is masturbation wrong? I grew up Catholic, so I'm engrained to feel guilt and shame for many things that aren't even biblical. Not a knock on the Catholic faith, but a truth that I've found exists in the Catholic religion- shame and guilt result from the religion's approach to sin and man's relationship with God.

I have since come to learn more bible-based truths found in the Gospel: Christ's blood covers all sin, nothing can separate us from the love of God, and shame and guilt are never from God but rather are attempts from the devil to cause man to condemn ourselves and never feel worthy of God's love. And this is just a downright lie.

With that, I know that God loves each of us and nothing can ever change that, but I still want to please God and never offend Him. So I struggle with the issue of masturbation. The only biblical reference doesn't really speak to masturbation, but rather a brother's broken covenant with his deceased brother.

Where do you stand on this? Is it possible to do PE without masturbating? Should we try?

Thanks in advance for broaching this subject!

There is nothing wrong with masturbation where it becomes a sin for Christians is when we start to objectify women to satisfy a carnal desire. There is nothing wrong with appreciating God's wonderful work and even lusting for it. Where things become a sin is when you begin to covet, commit adultery or fornication. The steps from lust to coveting are easy to see after the fact. So are you able to masturbate while thinking on nothing at all? If you have a wife do you think this would be appropriate? Where do you draw the line between innocent lusting and coveting? These are all questions that you will need to answer and be accountable to Jesus with.

I am a Catholic but in a very different way than modern Catholicism. I see Jesus Christ as my Pope, I see the church as the Body of Christ (meaning all members who believe), I say my own masses and when I confess I confess to my friends and Jesus, not to some priest. So for me I do not carry the Catholic guilt and shame, as it is said. I believe in the original bases of the Apostolithic faith. But, it should be understood that after you have sinned God is not putting you in shame or putting you into a place of guilt, that is satan. Jesus wants us to run to Him with our sins, the devil wants to accuse us and keep us in shame so we will not go to Jesus. So when you feel shame or guilt STOP and realize where it is coming from and from there pray to Jesus for forgiveness.
 
Thanks to the many replies on this thread. This is not about religion, it is about accountability to those who want to quit watching ���� or tapper or eliminate masturbation. I have always told men that visual stimulation is important but gain it from the most innocent form you can.

So far for myself it has been 5 days without ���� or masturbation. I am staying to have sexual dreams so I know the temptations are all still there. During the day my strategy of seeing women as family has eliminated most of my lusting. I still notice and appreciate the beauty of women but I do not linger on it. I have a good understanding of myself now, well better than before. I know that full out ���� slavery does not start at that point, it is the tiny steps to that point. As I said, everything in moderation but if you find yourself submerged into hours of ���� and masturbation you need to start practicing discipline. Ultimately ���� will bring men to objectifying women.
 
doublelongdaddy;716803 said:
There is nothing wrong with masturbation where it becomes a sin for Christians is when we start to objectify women to satisfy a carnal desire. There is nothing wrong with appreciating God's wonderful work and even lusting for it. Where things become a sin is when you begin to covet, commit adultery or fornication. The steps from lust to coveting are easy to see after the fact. So are you able to masturbate while thinking on nothing at all? If you have a wife do you think this would be appropriate? Where do you draw the line between innocent lusting and coveting? These are all questions that you will need to answer and be accountable to Jesus with.

I am a Catholic but in a very different way than modern Catholicism. I see Jesus Christ as my Pope, I see the church as the Body of Christ (meaning all members who believe), I say my own masses and when I confess I confess to my friends and Jesus, not to some priest. So for me I do not carry the Catholic guilt and shame, as it is said. I believe in the original bases of the Apostolithic faith. But, it should be understood that after you have sinned God is not putting you in shame or putting you into a place of guilt, that is satan. Jesus wants us to run to Him with our sins, the devil wants to accuse us and keep us in shame so we will not go to Jesus. So when you feel shame or guilt STOP and realize where it is coming from and from there pray to Jesus for forgiveness.

Well said, DLD. Thanks for sharing your perspective!
 
doublelongdaddy;716803 said:
There is nothing wrong with masturbation where it becomes a sin for Christians is when we start to objectify women to satisfy a carnal desire. There is nothing wrong with appreciating God's wonderful work and even lusting for it. Where things become a sin is when you begin to covet, commit adultery or fornication. The steps from lust to coveting are easy to see after the fact. So are you able to masturbate while thinking on nothing at all? If you have a wife do you think this would be appropriate? Where do you draw the line between innocent lusting and coveting? These are all questions that you will need to answer and be accountable to Jesus with.

I am a Catholic but in a very different way than modern Catholicism. I see Jesus Christ as my Pope, I see the church as the Body of Christ (meaning all members who believe), I say my own masses and when I confess I confess to my friends and Jesus, not to some priest. So for me I do not carry the Catholic guilt and shame, as it is said. I believe in the original bases of the Apostolithic faith. But, it should be understood that after you have sinned God is not putting you in shame or putting you into a place of guilt, that is satan. Jesus wants us to run to Him with our sins, the devil wants to accuse us and keep us in shame so we will not go to Jesus. So when you feel shame or guilt STOP and realize where it is coming from and from there pray to Jesus for forgiveness.

Dld please reiterate for kyomoto the part that says GODs work and not hentai animators' work :blush:. We know he's lusting over blues clues and Garfield s ass brah you know he's chinese
 
templnite;716891 said:
Dld please reiterate for kyomoto the part that says GODs work and not hentai animators' work :blush:. We know he's lusting over blues clues and Garfield s ass brah you know he's chinese

LMAOoooooo
garfield got ass bro wym?
But in all seriousness DLD just let yourself live a little, use the fleshlight with discipline.
 
doublelongdaddy;716804 said:
Thanks to the many replies on this thread. This is not about religion, it is about accountability to those who want to quit watching ���� or tapper or eliminate masturbation. I have always told men that visual stimulation is important but gain it from the most innocent form you can.

So far for myself it has been 5 days without ���� or masturbation. I am staying to have sexual dreams so I know the temptations are all still there. During the day my strategy of seeing women as family has eliminated most of my lusting. I still notice and appreciate the beauty of women but I do not linger on it. I have a good understanding of myself now, well better than before. I know that full out ���� slavery does not start at that point, it is the tiny steps to that point. As I said, everything in moderation but if you find yourself submerged into hours of ���� and masturbation you need to start practicing discipline. Ultimately ���� will bring men to objectifying women.

Damn bro is that a direct quote from the Vatican? Its funy because the only innocent are the little ones and you know there's lots of pedos in the catholic church xD children born in shit for cardinal sin 👺👿👾👹👀.

But as fo r the topic yeah I mastrbated :cool: just edging for my training though but I'm getting relly good at retaining ejaculate for several days, I don't even get tense from it anymore ,just a means to an end I guess. I watch random shit like girls wearing sandals or checkered clothes or a bone thru their hair or any random shit that gets me hard. I never get into orgys or gangbangs because its nasty or even mainstream ���� because its so tired and played out
 
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kyomoto;716897 said:
LMAOoooooo
garfield got ass bro wym?
But in all seriousness DLD just let yourself live a little, use the fleshlight with discipline.

I do have a FleshLight and I see absolutely nothing wrong with this as long as there is no coveting going on.
 
templnite;716920 said:
Damn bro is that a direct quote from the Vatican? Its funy because the only innocent are the little ones and you know there's lots of pedos in the catholic church xD children born in shit for cardinal sin 👺👿👾👹👀.

But as fo r the topic yeah I mastrbated :cool: just edging for my training though but I'm getting relly good at retaining ejaculate for several days, I don't even get tense from it anymore ,just a means to an end I guess. I watch random shit like girls wearing sandals or checkered clothes or a bone thru their hair or any random shit that gets me hard. I never get into orgys or gangbangs because its nasty or even mainstream ���� because its so tired and played out

I consider myself a little one.
 
'You can do it. You can get over these ludicrous, primal urges that you know will leave you feeling as empty and cold as before. Shut down your computer and walk away from this situation. You are probably surrounded with tissues and lube at this moment. The door is probably locked, lights out with your belt unbuckled, your jeans pulled down to your ankles.

This isn't a fun place to be; a complete contrast to the days, weeks or even months you've engaged in this lifestyle, reaped the rewards of putting fulfilment before pleasure, learnt about yourself, stepped out of your comfort circle and felt yourself growing with each day that passes. Why throw it away? You may have already started edging, that same, tsunami of dopamine flooding into your brain, that pornstar you've been thinking about for weeks if not months is right in front of you, on a screen.

Does this feel good? Does it feel pleasurable knowing that soon as you blow your load you will get rid of everything you've worked for? The very essence of your life and sunlight deposited into a crusty tissue or sock? You know the answer.

I know the answer because a week ago I was in your position. And for the first time since I've started this journey; edging and watching ���� did not end with me throwing it all away. I also felt that drug pumping through my temple. My dopamine receptors getting weaker by the second, the reality of me throwing it all away and saying "Fuck it." But, for the first time, I closed the tabs of online-cocaine, shut down my computer, pulled my pants up and went outside. In the days that followed, I still felt the effects from slipping up and edging, but not nearly as much if I had gone all the way, as I'm sure you're very close to doing. Yesterday I visited a friend, helped him set up his audio system, helped my grandmother with her groceries, went boxing, went for a run, worked on my business before going on a date with an amazing girl. If I didn't walk away from my computer a week ago, my presence, confidence and ultimately the quality of my life would have been compromised for a few fleeting seconds of ejaculative sneeze.
You deserve a life of happiness and prosperity, unhindered by the darkness of carnal pleasures. If, right this instance, you can walk away from the clutches of the ���� industry when it's staring at you straight in the face, when you're an inch away from doing the deed and completely relapsing; you will have developed a level of self-restraint that millions of people around the world can only dream of. An empowerment over your sexual urges that men have perished throughout history without coming close to experiencing.

Every single second starting from now, 30,000 new users around the globe will begin to watch ����. You don't need to be one of them. If you do this; if you turn off your computer right now and walk away, you will literally be that one in a million who chose to say no to their caveman urges. You will probably have to reset your badge, and most probably have some brain fog as a result of what you've already done, your primal brain outraged, screaming at you to turn the computer back on and finish what you've started. But I know you can ignore it, and deep down you know you have the courage to remove yourself from this situation. Change is scary. A veil of smoke and mist compared to the comforts you've known since the dawning of your adolescence and sexual maturity, but you will never know what's on the other side if you don't take a stand for once and say no to your emotional brain. Go on, go about your life and enjoy the real world outside of your darkened room. The choice is completely in your hands.
You know what needs to be done. Get on with it.'

NoFap
 
I want to confess to my Brothers that I fell into temptation last night and started to look at ������������ material, I did this for about 2 minutes and then the guilt kicked in and I stopped. I never touched myself in this, it was a slight slip up and I hope to avoid this next time. I want to make myself accountable to my Brothers so I will have that support when I do slip up.
 
doublelongdaddy;717114 said:
'You can do it. You can get over these ludicrous, primal urges that you know will leave you feeling as empty and cold as before. Shut down your computer and walk away from this situation. You are probably surrounded with tissues and lube at this moment. The door is probably locked, lights out with your belt unbuckled, your jeans pulled down to your ankles.

This isn't a fun place to be; a complete contrast to the days, weeks or even months you've engaged in this lifestyle, reaped the rewards of putting fulfilment before pleasure, learnt about yourself, stepped out of your comfort circle and felt yourself growing with each day that passes. Why throw it away? You may have already started edging, that same, tsunami of dopamine flooding into your brain, that pornstar you've been thinking about for weeks if not months is right in front of you, on a screen.

Does this feel good? Does it feel pleasurable knowing that soon as you blow your load you will get rid of everything you've worked for? The very essence of your life and sunlight deposited into a crusty tissue or sock? You know the answer.

I know the answer because a week ago I was in your position. And for the first time since I've started this journey; edging and watching ���� did not end with me throwing it all away. I also felt that drug pumping through my temple. My dopamine receptors getting weaker by the second, the reality of me throwing it all away and saying "Fuck it." But, for the first time, I closed the tabs of online-cocaine, shut down my computer, pulled my pants up and went outside. In the days that followed, I still felt the effects from slipping up and edging, but not nearly as much if I had gone all the way, as I'm sure you're very close to doing. Yesterday I visited a friend, helped him set up his audio system, helped my grandmother with her groceries, went boxing, went for a run, worked on my business before going on a date with an amazing girl. If I didn't walk away from my computer a week ago, my presence, confidence and ultimately the quality of my life would have been compromised for a few fleeting seconds of ejaculative sneeze.
You deserve a life of happiness and prosperity, unhindered by the darkness of carnal pleasures. If, right this instance, you can walk away from the clutches of the ���� industry when it's staring at you straight in the face, when you're an inch away from doing the deed and completely relapsing; you will have developed a level of self-restraint that millions of people around the world can only dream of. An empowerment over your sexual urges that men have perished throughout history without coming close to experiencing.

Every single second starting from now, 30,000 new users around the globe will begin to watch ����. You don't need to be one of them. If you do this; if you turn off your computer right now and walk away, you will literally be that one in a million who chose to say no to their caveman urges. You will probably have to reset your badge, and most probably have some brain fog as a result of what you've already done, your primal brain outraged, screaming at you to turn the computer back on and finish what you've started. But I know you can ignore it, and deep down you know you have the courage to remove yourself from this situation. Change is scary. A veil of smoke and mist compared to the comforts you've known since the dawning of your adolescence and sexual maturity, but you will never know what's on the other side if you don't take a stand for once and say no to your emotional brain. Go on, go about your life and enjoy the real world outside of your darkened room. The choice is completely in your hands.
You know what needs to be done. Get on with it.'

NoFap

whoa...that's quite the soliloquy, Mike. My thought is that everyone's prism is different and what triggers one doesn't necessarily trigger all. Can a person explore all facets of their sexuality, (including ����) without it becoming all-consuming? I'm guessing, 'yes', but I do agree that ���� is very much like any other brain-altering drug...unchecked it could remap your pleasure centers and prevent you from experiencing your life fully.

The litmus test that I employ is very simple, 'is what activity I'm engaged-in having a negative impact on my friendships, work, love-life, health?' If yes, then adjust/eliminate
 
Watched one of those tumblr ���� clips and had to knock one of,wish my orgasms could last more than a few secs...
 
LONGERDICK7+;717187 said:
Watched one of those tumblr ���� clips and had to knock one of,wish my orgasms could last more than a few secs...

the pleasure lasts a few seconds then nothing, crazy right
 
Big Schwanz Acht;717167 said:
whoa...that's quite the soliloquy, Mike. My thought is that everyone's prism is different and what triggers one doesn't necessarily trigger all. Can a person explore all facets of their sexuality, (including ����) without it becoming all-consuming? I'm guessing, 'yes', but I do agree that ���� is very much like any other brain-altering drug...unchecked it could remap your pleasure centers and prevent you from experiencing your life fully.

The litmus test that I employ is very simple, 'is what activity I'm engaged-in having a negative impact on my friendships, work, love-life, health?' If yes, then adjust/eliminate

Constant masturbation stops you from chasing women. A lot of us are guilty of this.
 
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