Newbie who doesn't even know if he's Kegeling correctly

Razzman · Dec 29, 2010

Yes, I know that if you stop the flow of urine you can find the PC muscle. But I've also read that doing this too many times actually weakens the PC muscle, and I'm having trouble having confidence that I'm flexing the right one.

First off, there are two muscles that I can identify down there, one more towards the back, and one directly under the scrotum. But they never flex together, only independently. I've read that kegeling is supposed to lift the scrotum slightly, however I've never noticed this. But, flexing either of these two muscles makes my shaft twitch upwards (moreso when erect.)

It seems to me that I can't hold a flex for either of these very long, and I don't know which is actually the PC muscle. I'm very new to this, and a little guidance would be greatly appreciated.

lazyhanger · Dec 30, 2010

There is a very easy way to locate that muscle. You can do a light straight out stretch and then try to "pull" the penis back (that's also how you find out your LOT). If the penis makes a back movement you know that you are using the right muscle. Then, it's actually like shooting a ball in basketball. You need to work this muscle a lot (muscle memory). Hope that helps.

DLD · Dec 30, 2010

Although you do not need to do Kegels like this, it will teach you how to flex properly:

Next time you are peeing

1.) Stop the flow of urine midstream, this is a KEGEL
2.) Push the flow of urine, this is a REVERSE KEGEL

Razzman · Dec 30, 2010

Thank you very much, lazyhanger.

I assume those are the two different muscles I've been detecting.

If you don't mind, I've got a couple more questions.

1) How necessary is it to do both Kegels and Reverse Kegels?

2) How important to your results would you say the warm-up part of the routine is?

3) About how long will it probably take to reach the 1st plateau?

twins172_up · Dec 31, 2010

the kegel is a good exercise to you..it is the same reponse that will help you control your ejaculations...now it has been said that doing too many of these can weaken the muscle but i believe that is from someone over doing it...i can imagine trying to do thousands of kegels a day can't probably be good..but i do believe in moderation they play a role...i try to do a couple hundred during the day (when i remember) with different hold times...the warm up is very important in a routine..i find that i can stretch longer after a good 10-15 min warmup..manually and when i use my extender...i warmup and can stretch a considerable amount further with both...always good to warm up...can't tell you when you will reach your 1st plateau....when i 1st started if i stuck with a routine for 3 months straight i would change it up then do that routine for 3 months then change it up again...but noone would be able to tell you when you are going to hit your plateau. good luck

lazyhanger · Dec 31, 2010

1.) Very necessary for penile health. Also the Kegel/Reverse kegel is a key element of the DLD Blasters. Just check the thread out and you will want to do kegels all the time to master this technique

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2.) Always warm up and I recommend to do looong warm downs too, your flaccid size will be better. As twins said above the penis becomes more flexible and so your workout will be much more efficient, not to forget that you prevent an injury.

3.) Don't even think of plateaus, you won't hit a plateau so fast! Your gains may start to come slower, but this only indicates that you should do more intense exercises and probably change your routine. While in the beginning you are using basic stretch and basic jelqs, in the more advanced stage you may want to do isolation exercises that target mainly the ligs, or mainly the tunica etc. and therefor you get a lot more efficiency out of the workout. Just stick to the newbie routine until you notice that you can't gain anymore with it - and this will probably take a few months - and then as I said move on with the isolation exercises.

MAXAMEYES · Dec 31, 2010

Here's an exercise I do to develop the entire muscle group associated with the BC muscle (we call it PC, but in guys it's the Bulbo-Coccygeus muscle, I mention it only 'cuz I'm kinda anal when it comes to information).

Penis EnlargementEING IN THE SHOWER!

This involves alternately stopping and ejecting urine.
Kegel: stop the flow of urine using only your PC/BC muscle group.

One of the best ways to see if you're doing it correctly is to speak while accomplishing the maneuver. If done properly a kegel shouldn't interfere with your speech. (Try singin' R-E-S-P-E-C-T ...it works well for this exercise.) After you've gained the muscle awareness to do this reliably then move on to the:

Reverse Kegel: Again, while paying homage to Aretha Franklin, you squeeze and push with the muscles of your pelvic floor to expel urine with increasing force and volume.

Now that you've got each down to a fine art; combine them in a continuous series of stop and fire exercises. Aim for maximum filling then distance on the Reverses and maximum/immediate stoppage (no dripping!) on the Kegels.
Think one of Peter North's legendary cumshots. A series of discrete, seperate and voluminous shots.
You want to have your urine stream look like this; you want to be in control of it all the time, and you want it all to come from the pelvic floor. Your abdomen shouldn't be involved at all, if done properly.

DLD · Dec 31, 2010

MAXAMEYES;410183 said:
Here's an exercise I do to develop the entire muscle group associated with the BC muscle (we call it PC, but in guys it's the Bulbo-Coccygeus muscle, I mention it only 'cuz I'm kinda anal when it comes to information).

Penis EnlargementEING IN THE SHOWER!

This involves alternately stopping and ejecting urine.
Kegel: stop the flow of urine using only your PC/BC muscle group.

One of the best ways to see if you're doing it correctly is to speak while accomplishing the maneuver. If done properly a kegel shouldn't interfere with your speech. (Try singin' R-E-S-P-E-C-T ...it works well for this exercise.) After you've gained the muscle awareness to do this reliably then move on to the:

Reverse Kegel: Again, while paying homage to Aretha Franklin, you squeeze and push with the muscles of your pelvic floor to expel urine with increasing force and volume.

Now that you've got each down to a fine art; combine them in a continuous series of stop and fire exercises. Aim for maximum filling then distance on the Reverses and maximum/immediate stoppage (no dripping!) on the Kegels.
Think one of Peter North's legendary cumshots. A series of discrete, seperate and voluminous shots.
You want to have your urine stream look like this; you want to be in control of it all the time, and you want it all to come from the pelvic floor. Your abdomen shouldn't be involved at all, if done properly.

Great post, thanks!

MAXAMEYES · Dec 31, 2010

Y'like Aretha too, do ya?

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