I'm a bodybuilder

Painful Pleasur · Sep 14, 2006

Figured I would introduce myself to this section even though there isn't much activity here and I'm already on a regular bodybuilding forum.

I've been lifting since like 2001 (5 years) but I started to seriously bodybuild about 11 months ago. I'm 5ft 7in 160 lbs right now. I have a lot of excess bodyfat that i'm not worried about right now, I'm still trying to put on mass. I was 140 about 11 months ago. My arms are now 14 inches, they were 10 or 11 when i started 11 months ago. that's pretty good considering how much growth that is in a short time, even though 14 inches is average size for guys who dont even workout but I had bad "genetics" or w/e cause I was born 2 months early with defects and crap. My calves are only 13 inches, sounds small but my legs are very strong.

My goal: 17 inches arms, 47 inch chest, 16 inch calves, 30 inch waist, something like that. Something similar to frank zane.

I used to be obese. When i was 13, i was 5ft 180 lbs of pure fat ass. I dropped all that weight down to 125 in 2 years time. I know quite a bit about bodybuilding and health, so if you have any questions feel free to ask me.

prince Albert · Sep 14, 2006

What's your current routine look like mate.

Mr.Winkle · Sep 15, 2006

Pics would be great, but that's asking a lot. How old are, btw?

Painful Pleasur · Sep 16, 2006

I am 19 and I dont have a regular routine because I feel it gets boring that way and I like going by how I feel, but I write everything down to make sure I work everything properly without overtraining.

prince Albert · Sep 16, 2006

Poor way to train IMO.

goldmember · Sep 16, 2006

prince Albert said:
Poor way to train IMO.

I have to agree with PA. Changing up exercises is a good idea as long as it is done systematically. You build muscle by increasing poundages and stressing the muscle fibers. This can be done by training in the way you describe, but what is also important is the CNS development that comes from following a steady routine. This is sometimes referred to as the mind-muscle link. As you become more advanced in your bodybuilding quest, this mind-muscle unity will be by far your most useful asset.

Painful Pleasur · Sep 16, 2006

No not really. You probably just dont understand what i mean. My training is very good. I've put about 3 or 4 inches on my arms. I'm not sure of the exact number because I didn't get a tape measure until 3 months after i started seriously but I do know it was at least 3 inches on my arms alone. My chest has grown several inches. My legs have grown a few inches. I must be training pretty damn good if i'm gaining this fast.

Painful Pleasur · Sep 16, 2006

goldmember said:
I have to agree with PA. Changing up exercises is a good idea as long as it is done systematically. You build muscle by increasing poundages and stressing the muscle fibers. This can be done by training in the way you describe, but what is also important is the CNS development that comes from following a steady routine. This is sometimes referred to as the mind-muscle link. As you become more advanced in your bodybuilding quest, this mind-muscle unity will be by far your most useful asset.

Trust me I know how to train. If anything my way is better, what is the point of letting the muscles get used to something when you can keep it guessing all the time.

Painful Pleasur · Sep 16, 2006

Also, sometimes I dont feel like training and sometimes I get a little bit sore or something comes up so it's better that I dont stick to a strict schedule it's much better this way so I can workout when i feel is best. I never have to worry about overtraining because I get plenty of rest. I never know exactly how many days I feel I need to rest. I do it in a certain order it's not like i'm unorganized, I am very organize and systematic, you just understand, it's hard to explain.

goldmember · Sep 16, 2006

Didn't mean to come off as saying "your way is wrong". I believe in switching it up to keep the muscles form adapting, like you said. I just have a different approach, and should have been more careful with my words so I wouldn't offend you. Good luck!

prince Albert · Sep 16, 2006

Painful Pleasur said:
Trust me I know how to train. If anything my way is better, what is the point of letting the muscles get used to something when you can keep it guessing all the time.

No flame mate but in another thread you said

Quote"i'm 5ft 7in 160lbs with excess bodyfat. I've been lifting for years, got serious bodybulding 11 months ago"

From that it sounds like you don't no how to train or how to eat correctly.

GM gave you a good explanation as to why following a set routine is a good idea,your way of training can work but you need to no how your body responds to exercise very well.

Painful Pleasur · Sep 16, 2006

No trust me I do. It's just that I never took it seriously before. I would work out for a month and then stop for weeks and then start again later, I wasn't consistent with it and I never ate enough food. 11 months ago I decided I'd get with the program. I've been studying health, fitness and bodybuilding for about 5 years. I could be a personal trainer with my knowledge.

prince Albert · Sep 17, 2006

Painful Pleasur said:
I could be a personal trainer with my knowledge.

Thats a big boast mate are you up for a small challenge?

Post up a sample diet and bb routine for someone just starting out training,only take 5 mins.

Painful Pleasur · Sep 17, 2006

It depends on metabolism, height, weight, goal, age, stuff like that.

prince Albert · Sep 17, 2006

Painful Pleasur said:
It depends on metabolism, height, weight, goal, age, stuff like that.

Ok use me as an example i'm 5'8,210lb,34 yrs old,b.f 14% aprox,goal to increase muscle mass.

What sort of routine/split would you recommend.

Painful Pleasur · Sep 17, 2006

I really dont feel like calculating this all out but i still need to know your metabolic rate.

drew21 · Sep 17, 2006

You dont really need to know metabolic rate to give an example routine. You can also give a good estimate of a diet because people are always going to have to tweak thier diet to gain muscle. Suppose he needs 5000 calories to bulk. How would you divde your meals over the day and what p/c/f ratio would you use.

prince Albert · Sep 18, 2006

Painful Pleasur said:
I really dont feel like calculating this all out but i still need to know your metabolic rate.

Calculating what?,its not hard to write a routine out.

pullups · Sep 19, 2006

ok guys just let him go on this one, lol you a cocky one aren't you. Anyway dude I don't think you could be a personal trainer at 19 and with your stats and with your perception that havin an laid out plan of what to do when you go to the gym. We aren't sayin that you should have one set routine and use it for like 20 years, because your body will adjust. And if i read right, you said you got serious about liftin about a year ago right and experienced big gains (inches wise)...well dude I'd hope so, we've all had newbie gains...
Just to verify, I am not flaming you dude just letting you know bein open to other ideas and maybe not coming off so cocky couldn't hurt.

Painful Pleasur · Sep 19, 2006

You're going to need at least 4300 calories, but I would say a little more than that if you're trying to bulk. You weight alot so you need a lot of calories, assuming you are very active. You are going to need a minimum of 210g of protein per day but I would say you need more than that for bulking, I'd reccommend, 315g-420 a day. You would need at least 537g carbs but I would reccommend more since you're a big guy trying to bulk. For fat I would say 100-120g. Wow I never realized how much more a bigger person would have to eat

that must be a bitch for you having to eat that much all day.

For a routine I would say it's all preference really although it's good to stick to compound movements so more than one muscle is being worked. Personally I hate compound exercises but oh well.

Back/biceps
chest/tri
shoulders/abs
legs

there is a possible split for you.

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