Welp, I'm hooked.

BigBubs said:

Hey everyone:

Sorry this is such a long first post.

A brief intro to my PE experience. About a year ago, I bought the Bathmate Hydro 7. I messed with it for about a week, but it never felt right, so I stopped and it sat in the corner of my shower holder until about 2 months ago.

Some longwinded backstory - I've always been an athlete. Strict training regimens and schedules are my comfort zone. It may have been on this forum, but I saw a message that essentially said "Treat it like your normal gym workout", and something clicked. In January, I began strength training again very hard which put me in the mindset to be in a perfect routine from diet, sleep/recovery, and exercise. For a month, I used the Bathmate 5 days a week (M-F, my gym days, standard 5 minutes x 3), and at the end of the month, I had an erection like I don't think I've had since middle school. The girth gain was noticeable to say the least.

My wife made a noise I hadn't heard in a while that night as we began having sex, and needless to say, I was hooked.

I decided I wanted to pursue some real gains. My penis is a very average length, a bit above average girth. I've never had a complaint from a sexual partner, but as a 6ft 240+lb athlete, it *looks* small.

Come to 3 weeks ago, I purchased a very simple noose style traction device that, at first, was very uncomfortable. I got a thicker foam tube to put around the silicone noose, and some skin safe tape that peels off easily after applying water to provide a bit more grip around my glans. I am now able to wrap about 2.5 inches of tape around the top side base of my glans for some added grip, and the noose holds perfect. I actually over did it the first time I got the hold correct and was quite a bit sore after using it for about an hour. Of course, soreness has never been something to bother me.

It has now been 3 weeks of a practice routine and building up the skills surrounding the methods, and I need you guys, the PE masterminds, to let me know if this is sufficient for the next 6 months. An inch extra inch would be incredible. Thus far, after 2 months of regular M-F Bathmate usage, and 3 weeks of traction, I broke through a "plateau" so to speak and saw an extra .2" in the Bathmate yesterday, and my penis has begun to look more plump and hang a little better.

I have a very active job that requires me to be available to hop on calls/meetings all day 8-5, but I work from home, so more passive methods like traction devices, even if they require more time, are the ideal methods to keep me consistent. I also get to be home alone so sitting in my underwear with the device on is perfect.

Standard Monday - Friday Routine:
730am - Warm up with some simple stretches in each direction with space heater on that is under my desk
7:45am - Traction device on. Every few minutes, I give each screw a turn or two. Usually after about 30minutes, I'm at my "goal" mark for the week. At this time, I've increased how far up the rod I can go by about 3/4" without any discomfort. Once I'm at that progress mark, I start my 2 hour timer (usually around 8:15am)
10:15am - Traction device off, Uncle Jim's wrap for 20 minutes, 30 seconds massage, 3 times (1 hour total)
11:15am - Gym time
1:00pm - Gym is done and post workout meal ready at my desk. Back into the traction device. I can usually go right back up to that goal mark and I wear it for 90 more minutes.
2:30pm - Shower time. Bathmate 5 minutes in, 1 minute massage x 3.
3:00pm - Silicone cock ring for 30 minutes, massage and a few dry jelqs to get blood flowing, then again for 30 minutes.
4:00pm - 8:30pm - Uncle Jim's wrap re-wrapped every 20 minutes (this was so hard to do at first but now I can re-wrap in 30 seconds so I'm learning!)

Saturday-Sunday
I take it a bit easier - 60 minutes traction to help solidify that week's rod length goal, and then Uncle Jim's wraps as much as I can all day (usually can work in 6-8 hours around weekend responsibilities each day)
No Bathmate (7 days a week was too much).

I felt like I was at a plateau with the Bathmate, but Monday, after 3 weeks of seeing the same mark inside the Bathmate, an extra .25" was registering, so I'm hoping I'm actually doing something here.

Anyway, sorry again for the incredibly long winded post. It took a lot to actually create an account and admit I'm pursuing this goal, but damn it feels good and keeps me busy!

Thanks for any input, fellas!

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squirt_inducer_man said:

Welcome to the brotherhood @BigBubs.
Are you doing bundled stretches?

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Grandmaster said:

I like the 15-minute warm up at 7:30. I do not know what a space heater is, but for warming up, it is best to use a heating pad of some sort directly on your shaft to really penetrate the target tissues.

There is no such thing as a "goal mark for the week" in PE. If you are expecting to make length gains every week, you are in for a rude awakening. Guys can go a month or more without realizing gains, who put in a lot more traction time than you do.

I do not like what you are doing from 3:00pm onwards. It is a complete waste of time, in my opinion, since I do not believe in passive PE (I am going to get a lot of heat for saying that here, you watch).

Your routine is lacking a key ingredient called manual stretches. If I were you, I would use the time I have after 3:00pm to do manuals (I hear the lengthmaster is great for that). It is important to hit it from different angles to break down the target tissues that an extender alone cannot reach. You REALLY need the intensity of manual stretching, in conjunction with extending to maximize your chances of success. You are just going to have to take my word on that.

If you do an intense half hour manual routine at 3:00pm, you can proceed with doing 5-10 minute sets of manuals every few hours after that to keep your tissues from fully healing (pulling out the adhesions), rather than having something strapped on your dick for an additional 5 hours that provides much less tension than your extender does.

Trust me, it is really going to fuck with your head if you dedicate all of this time doing passive PE (instead of intense manual stretches), and have nothing to show for it. You need to be as productive as possible, so please consider formulating a stellar manual routine to add to your extending routine. If you insist on doing passive PE after that, then fine. I have never done that and have gained a lot, so I know for a fact that it is unnecessary. For me, it was more than enough to stretch for 5-10 minutes every few hours (after doing my main routine) to slow down the healing process.

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BigBubs said:

I pretty much posted this right after making my account. I had lurked around and read a lot, but without being a member, it was difficult to get anything to load. After I posted, I started searching through the forums and constantly see the mention of bundled stretches, but I keep running into links that I can't get to load correctly for a demo on how to properly do them. I could easily work in a set of bundled stretches instead of wrapping before I go to the gym, I just want to make sure I'm doing it correctly. Any assistance would be much appreciated!

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squirt_inducer_man said:

https://mattersofsize.com/media/explanation-of-bundled-stretches.1638/

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BigBubs said:

You're amazing! Thank you!

So the "bundled" part of the stretches is the twisting motion? Looking through the videos, I want to get a full twist around and then do stretches in multiple directions? Now that I've seen the lengthmaster in action, it makes way more sense. I'm going to have to pick one up soon! In the mean time, manual bundled stretching will be added to the routine. Thanks again for the quick responses. You guys are awesome.

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squirt_inducer_man said:

Yes you rotate your penis and then stretch?
You bundle up tissue and stretch more penis at once. You will gain faster, but also you will cement your length more easily

Get the LengthMaster 3.
And in the meantime you can use a broomstick, to do bundled stretches around that.

Like this but do bundled stretches around the broomstick. Look for the description in the comment if you press on the name under this video.
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This stretch is also powerful.
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BigBubs said:

To clarify the "goal" comment, essentially I take it up to what I can tolerate comfortably on Monday, and I make sure I hit that mark every day for every session before I start my timer. It's more to maintain consistency than an actual length goal of "it must stretch noticeably longer ever week". Sorry for the confusion! I agree, this is a marathon and not a sprint!

I'm going to try working in some manuals during my time before the gym instead of wrapping. Thanks for the advice!

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BigBubs said:

Now that I've seen the lengthmaster in action, it makes way more sense. I'm going to have to pick one up soon! In the mean time, manual bundled stretching will be added to the routine

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BigBubs said:

First day of adding manuals!

I did a full twist and tugged left, twist and tug right, then pulled up hard towards my belly button, then down towards my taint, then straight out. All 1 minute each.

I didn't feel the same sensation as the traction device, which I half expect, but I want to ensure I'm doing this right.

It's hard to explain but I guess I'd say it felt like a much deeper stretch? Especially around the base of my penis, but not so much all the way up the shaft. I'm assuming feeling that at the base is a good sign? I'd also assume it didn't feel as intense along the whole shaft because I've already conditioned that area a bit more from the traction device, but it definitely doesn't hit the bottom quarter of my penis the way these bundled stretches do.

Keep in mind, I am a true newbie! It's my first time after my warm up, but I am coming up on the end of my first 2.5 hour traction session and will massage it a bit and then do another set. Any other tell-tale signs I'm doing it right? Is that much increased tension I'm feeling around the base of my penis a good sign?

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Grandmaster said:

After warming up your shaft with a heating pad for a good 5 minutes in the morning, do some basic stretching for about 5 minutes. Then, do your normal extending routine for the day.

When you are done with that, NOW you attack the tissues with manuals. Your tissues will be slightly weaker, and so the fatigue will set in quicker from the manuals. It will be felt along the entire shaft, including the base, though it might take several reps before you feel it (might even take a few days until you first feel it, depending on the extent of the micro damage created).

You will find that when stretching SO, your Tunica will fatigue fairly quickly. However, when you stretch OTL, or Over The Leg, you will find that the lateral part of your shaft will be much tighter. The same will be felt on the underside of your shaft, as well as your suspensory ligaments at the base.

The whole point of doing manuals is to stretch other areas of the shaft that the extender alone cannot reach. It also further weakens the area targeted by the extender, and as a result, this produces faster overall growth. Trust me.

Remember: as a newbie, you need to start out slow and get to know your body. Listen to it when you are stretching, meaning that if at any point the stretch becomes too sharp, you have to manage that by either cutting back on the force, or even cutting your session short. Always go by feel. Do not push it too far. Your body will tell you when to back off, so listen to it. Focus on what you are feeling at all times.

If it is of any help, I used to do SO, SU, OTL, A-Stretch, DLD Blasters, and Rotary Cranks. As far as how many reps of each, that would depend entirely on FEEL. That is for you to determine, whatever feels right on any given day. I would hold each stretch for at least 20 seconds.

If you want to wrap your shaft with ACE wrap or whatever else to remain "extended", you certainly can. But in my opinion, it is not necessary. Some piss pulls throughout the day is usually more than enough to pull out the adhesions.

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BigBubs said:

Okay, this is not what I expected.

I went really easy on the bundled stretches. I did 3 sets of bundled left/right towards my hips, other 3 directions, up/down/center, were just a good ol' tug and hold for a minute. So 5 minutes in total, 1 set pre traction, 1 set after, 1 set after return from gym then back to traction.

There is absolutely an entirely new type of soreness I felt as I was pumping, and I hit a new peak. Albeit, only about .1", but it shows me that my normal base routine with that slight adjustment has made an enormous difference. I even found myself throwing in a couple SSJ's in all the excitement while pumping 😄

Also added 5 second Kegel's (hold for 5 seconds on, 5 seconds off) for the last 2 minutes of each of the 3 rounds of pumping.

I see why people are so active on this forum, now. This gets addictive!

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