Hercules to Goliath switch - Any advice/experience would help!

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Well, I've been using the X-40 since February and I quickly outgrew it. About two inches up the base especially, there is an indented ring which digs into the base of my penis when pumped, leaving behind a hickey-like mark. Also, I felt the base of my penis was not gaining due to the restriction of this ring. So I ordered a X-40. Finally got it today.
Jesus Christ. It's huge. If I grease up my hand, i could stick my arm in it. Makes me feel like I have the smallest penis in the world.
Anyways, I really don't want to continue using the X-40, because it is leaving rings around my penis base and also making my penis discolored from the base up because of the circulation being cut off BUT I have had great success with the X-40 and the suction is amazing.
Any guys have any tips/advice for me? Anyone who has switched from X-40 to X-40?
The X-40 is literally sucking in the skin of my pelvis, it's so big. It's actually kind of ridiculous.
I'm also very concerned with length work right now, but I don't see how I could possibly do Bathmate hardcore stretches with this thing. Seems like if I try, it will just pull my scrotum and pelvis into the base of the tube.
Ideally, I would have bought a mid-size model of Bathmate, but it wasn't an option.
So does anyone have any tricks for making a good seal with the X-40 even though it is grossly over sized for me?
Thanks guys!
 
I thought they were supposed to have come out with a maximus model in between the 2 sizes months ago? Im just about in the same state of having to upsize but with your description of it I dont know what the hell to do now!!! I know I was given a site on DLD's month routine post for getting a sleeve you pull over the outside rings and push the inserting portion inside the Bathmate to prevent from getting the ring impression or as you refer to it as a hicky... I have no advice for what your asking though sorry!!!
 
I have both Bathmates as well and yea the X-40 is intimidating for sure. I still use the X-40 for tge dld hardcore stretches and jelqs in between and my finally set is with the X-40 and i just do my total package. Getting a ball sucked in will wake you up in a hurry. It is getting harder to use the X-40 so i do hope they come out with a midsized model. But i am getting more use to the X-40...
 
Hi,

I meant to say that the vitallus is still new and that i haven't used it for the minimum 6 months recommended by the manufacturer.

However, it's actually doing its job as advertised. Post session, everything feels bigger, and not due to eudemas. I think this is because of the medium pressure at long intervals allowing for bloodflow as well as regeneration during expansion. But thats all theory right now cuz i'm still also on an extender, Bathmate and doing clamping at the same time.

But say you are on an extender for 6 hours a day, 6 hours on vitallus and jelqing / Bathmate for an extra hour and a half, almost two thirds a day your penis is getting the stretch treatment. This in fact does some positive lengthening. I've gained about 8/10 of an inch since july. The vitallus can only be a good support.

And its safe. The pressure is capped to 100ma, and the protection sleeve is an extra. If you add a heating pad and wrap it around when you sleep, all the better.


hope this answers some of your questions
 
sevenup;480407 said:
Hi,

I meant to say that the vitallus is still new and that i haven't used it for the minimum 6 months recommended by the manufacturer.

However, it's actually doing its job as advertised. Post session, everything feels bigger, and not due to eudemas. I think this is because of the medium pressure at long intervals allowing for bloodflow as well as regeneration during expansion. But thats all theory right now cuz i'm still also on an extender, Bathmate and doing clamping at the same time.

But say you are on an extender for 6 hours a day, 6 hours on vitallus and jelqing / Bathmate for an extra hour and a half, almost two thirds a day your penis is getting the stretch treatment. This in fact does some positive lengthening. I've gained about 8/10 of an inch since july. The vitallus can only be a good support.

And its safe. The pressure is capped to 100ma, and the protection sleeve is an extra. If you add a heating pad and wrap it around when you sleep, all the better.


hope this answers some of your questions
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What is the vitallus?
 
My sincere apologies for posting in this thread. For some reason i was responding to a private msg and it ended up here.

Again, didn't mean to jack anything.
 
Exiled15;480402 said:
I thought they were supposed to have come out with a maximus model in between the 2 sizes months ago? Im just about in the same state of having to upsize but with your description of it I dont know what the hell to do now!!! I know I was given a site on DLD's month routine post for getting a sleeve you pull over the outside rings and push the inserting portion inside the Bathmate to prevent from getting the ring impression or as you refer to it as a hicky... I have no advice for what your asking though sorry!!!
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I really need more space girth wise(yay for expansion;)) and using X-40 is possible but hard and not comfortable>:(. So at the moment I'm trying to take everything I can out of X-40 while getting used to X-40.
I'm facing similar issues with X-40. The damn thing is huge and herc looks like toy after using X-40 :p
I want to know about X-40 + sleeve combo also. Has anyone tried that ?

K.
 
You get used to the queer positioning of the X-40 after a while. I also had the problem of fearing to get my entire pelvis sucked out, as well as my balls but once you have the right space, it becomes very comfortable and easy to do the girth blasters. Just make sure you got enough vaseline around your pelvis, that you pull down your scrotum as you pump, and avoid outbalancing the X-40 sideways as it will create a bad vacuum and stretch your skin between scrotum and shaft.

It took me about 2 weeks before i was productive in my session.
 
Hi Mike,

I'll give you a few suggestions. Some of these may have been said before, so bear with me as I repeat things often.

1: Shave in all areas the X-40 contacts. It makes a big difference in the seal.
2: If you can, sit in an upright position when using the X-40 and bend over allowing the X-40 to point toward the floor when re-pumping. You will get a much more intense pump this way.
3: Tie off your balls with a rubber band, so they do not slip in. Later when your base has expanded, you can ditch the rubber band because your base will be large enough that likely your balls will no longer be inclined to slip in. You can also practice positioning the X-40 so that its further up on your pelvis. This has the net effect of helping to keep your balls from getting sucked in or having addition pressure placed on them.
4: Keep messing with it. It will take several weeks to get the hang of using it. Same thing for me. After several weeks, you get used to it and the benefits are WELL worth the time it takes to learn how to use it.
5: Be consistent. Don't give up! Keep getting your sessions in day in and day out. Consistency builds patience, discipline and personal power. It is a fact that most people will not stick with a plan long enough to see the results they desire. Make time each day even if you're exhausted, to get in at least 20 minutes. (I average about 6.5 days per week of use with the X-40)
6: Jelq after every session. Don't skip this part as it aids so much in restoration and growth.
7: Experiment and find new things that aid growth.
8: Have fun! Find ways to make in fun and interesting. You will be much more likely to stick with it long-term if its always fun. Long-term is where the real magic is for most things we do.

Dan

MikeShlort;480396 said:
Well, I've been using the X-40 since February and I quickly outgrew it. About two inches up the base especially, there is an indented ring which digs into the base of my penis when pumped, leaving behind a hickey-like mark. Also, I felt the base of my penis was not gaining due to the restriction of this ring. So I ordered a X-40. Finally got it today.
Jesus Christ. It's huge. If I grease up my hand, i could stick my arm in it. Makes me feel like I have the smallest penis in the world.
Anyways, I really don't want to continue using the X-40, because it is leaving rings around my penis base and also making my penis discolored from the base up because of the circulation being cut off BUT I have had great success with the X-40 and the suction is amazing.
Any guys have any tips/advice for me? Anyone who has switched from X-40 to X-40?
The X-40 is literally sucking in the skin of my pelvis, it's so big. It's actually kind of ridiculous.
I'm also very concerned with length work right now, but I don't see how I could possibly do Bathmate hardcore stretches with this thing. Seems like if I try, it will just pull my scrotum and pelvis into the base of the tube.
Ideally, I would have bought a mid-size model of Bathmate, but it wasn't an option.
So does anyone have any tricks for making a good seal with the X-40 even though it is grossly over sized for me?
Thanks guys!
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I am going to start a thread to see how many members have made this switch. Bathmate really delivers gains, and it is apparent in the user upgrades from X-40 to X-40. I wonder how many upgrades would happen from X-40 to an even larger model???:)
 
Good idea Mike. Bathmate is an awesome tool especially when combined with manual exercises you and so many others have developed. Speaking for myself, I would have LOVED to upgraded to a size above the X-40 about 6 months back. I still would love to do that today :))

Dan

doublelongdaddy;480575 said:
I am going to start a thread to see how many members have made this switch. Bathmate really delivers gains, and it is apparent in the user upgrades from X-40 to X-40. I wonder how many upgrades would happen from X-40 to an even larger model???:)
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doublelongdaddy;480575 said:
I am going to start a thread to see how many members have made this switch. Bathmate really delivers gains, and it is apparent in the user upgrades from X-40 to X-40. I wonder how many upgrades would happen from X-40 to an even larger model???:)
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I think many people would be very interested in a size between the X-40 and X-40 DLD.
I imagine that when the penis is closer to the tube, the gains and quicker.
I'd buy one right now. You should try to make it happen.
I'm probably going to shop around for a different make of pump since Bathmate doesn't have the size I need at this point in time, which is unfortunate because I'd prefer to stick with Bathmate.
Would you possibly be able to recommend me another brand of pump that you think is of quality and would fit the needs of someone who does manuals and pumps? Ideally, I'd want a tube with a circumference of about 7.3"
 
Dan_Clizer;480584 said:
Good idea Mike. Bathmate is an awesome tool especially when combined with manual exercises you and so many others have developed. Speaking for myself, I would have LOVED to upgraded to a size above the X-40 about 6 months back. I still would love to do that today :))

Dan
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Thanks again for the gems of advice Dan. I always appreciate your advice and incorporate it into my routine.
I can't imagine ever being bigger than the X-40 though, my arm can fit in the thing....

You must be a fairly large-framed man? I find that the X-40 is literally sucking in the skin of my pelvis because I have a small bone structure and have narrow hips. I'm definitely getting a pump with the thing, but it's not as intense as I imagine it would be if my penis was closer to the plastic.

May I ask what girth did you start pumping at in the X-40 and what girth are you now (not pumped)? I'm at about 5.9" right now.

Right now I am jelqing in between each Bathmate set of 6 minutes, but is it necessary to jelq after the last set of pumping? Sometimes I like to tie off immediately after pulling out of the pump and I find it keeps the pump all night.

Currently, I'm using both pumps in a session. I swear, if I ever fill that X-40 (girth wise), I promise you all that I will hit on every woman I see. Big props on outgrowing the X-40 Dan, that is simply epic... The pump is so big it could be used as a bucket..
 
You are welcome MikeShlort.

Yeah, the thing is large, no question. I know what you mean about it sucking skin in. It did the same thing with me at first even though I do have a large frame. You just kind of have to put up with it for a couple of months and then what happens (or at least it did in my case) is that your penis base starts expanding enough that its not much of an issue anymore because the penis base is now filling in that space that at first all manner of skin is sucked into. I can appreciate what you mean about the challenge of using the X-40 with your smaller frame. Just do the best you can. Yes, it does indeed create a more intense vacuum the closer your penis gets to the walls.

When I started with the X-40, I was at 6" midshaft (which I used to call the "base") and I estimate about 6.5" at the true base. I'm still trying to get a good estimate on base girth because of a 2.5" fat pad, but the base appears to be about one half inch larger than midshaft. I'm in the process of burning off about 30 lbs of fat and I'm beginning to get a better idea of how my penis is actually shaped. I've not seen the true base since before puberty.

I'm at 7.75" midshaft now and approximately 8.25" at the base unpumped. Yes, with your girth at essentially 6" you definitely need the X-40. It is a shame the mid range model is not available for you!

I never have jelqed in between sets. I always just got in my sets and then put in 15 to 20 minutes of jelqing at the end of each session.

Thank you for the compliment. Its been a great blessing to have been as successful as quickly as I was. I thought it would take many years of effort, but I was very pleasantly surprised!

Yeah, I think you would AMAZE every woman that took you up on your offer :))

Dan

MikeShlort;480609 said:
Thanks again for the gems of advice Dan. I always appreciate your advice and incorporate it into my routine.
I can't imagine ever being bigger than the X-40 though, my arm can fit in the thing....

You must be a fairly large-framed man? I find that the X-40 is literally sucking in the skin of my pelvis because I have a small bone structure and have narrow hips. I'm definitely getting a pump with the thing, but it's not as intense as I imagine it would be if my penis was closer to the plastic.

May I ask what girth did you start pumping at in the X-40 and what girth are you now (not pumped)? I'm at about 5.9" right now.

Right now I am jelqing in between each Bathmate set of 6 minutes, but is it necessary to jelq after the last set of pumping? Sometimes I like to tie off immediately after pulling out of the pump and I find it keeps the pump all night.

Currently, I'm using both pumps in a session. I swear, if I ever fill that X-40 (girth wise), I promise you all that I will hit on every woman I see. Big props on outgrowing the X-40 Dan, that is simply epic... The pump is so big it could be used as a bucket..
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Dan_Clizer;480619 said:
You are welcome MikeShlort.

Yeah, the thing is large, no question. I know what you mean about it sucking skin in. It did the same thing with me at first even though I do have a large frame. You just kind of have to put up with it for a couple of months and then what happens (or at least it did in my case) is that your penis base starts expanding enough that its not much of an issue anymore because the penis base is now filling in that space that at first all manner of skin is sucked into. I can appreciate what you mean about the challenge of using the X-40 with your smaller frame. Just do the best you can. Yes, it does indeed create a more intense vacuum the closer your penis gets to the walls.

When I started with the X-40, I was at 6" midshaft (which I used to call the "base") and I estimate about 6.5" at the true base. I'm still trying to get a good estimate on base girth because of a 2.5" fat pad, but the base appears to be about one half inch larger than midshaft. I'm in the process of burning off about 30 lbs of fat and I'm beginning to get a better idea of how my penis is actually shaped. I've not seen the true base since before puberty.

I'm at 7.75" midshaft now and approximately 8.25" at the base unpumped. Yes, with your girth at essentially 6" you definitely need the X-40. It is a shame the mid range model is not available for you!

I never have jelqed in between sets. I always just got in my sets and then put in 15 to 20 minutes of jelqing at the end of each session.

Thank you for the compliment. Its been a great blessing to have been as successful as quickly as I was. I thought it would take many years of effort, but I was very pleasantly surprised!

Yeah, I think you would AMAZE every woman that took you up on your offer :))

Dan
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Thanks again Dan.
Here's a good link to an article for a bodybuilding diet: http://www.muscleandstrength.com/articles/how-to-create-a-bodybuilding-diet.html
I know you are trying to lose weight but this article is extremely useful because it shows the carbs, calories, fat and protein of tons of food and helps you create a meal plan for your goals. I'm using it to gain lean mass.
If you aren't doing this already, try going to sleep 2-3 hours after you've eaten your last meal. This helps lose weight easily. Also diet is a huge part. Lots of raw vegetables and fruits and home cooked meat with rice, potatoes or other less fattening sides helps keep the fat off. If you have access to an elliptical running machine those are great for burning fat, as is cycling and jogging. The elliptical is great if you have sore joints, it keeps the pressure off the knees and ankles. I find that working out is very similar to Penis Enlargement, gradually build up but give a solid effort and don't stop.
Let me know how it goes!
 
You're welcome MikeShlort. Thank you for the tips, advice and link below! I've had a lot of fun playing with my new diet and seeing the fat come off. I'm four weeks into it and have burned about 8 to 10 lbs so far. my goal is about 8% body fat in about 60 to 90 more days.

I've found the same thing as you with weight training. Its been one of my core practices for discipline for 30 years. Its awesome!

Thank you, I will let you know! Let us know how you do with the X-40?

Dan

MikeShlort;480628 said:
Thanks again Dan.
Here's a good link to an article for a bodybuilding diet: http://www.muscleandstrength.com/articles/how-to-create-a-bodybuilding-diet.html
I know you are trying to lose weight but this article is extremely useful because it shows the carbs, calories, fat and protein of tons of food and helps you create a meal plan for your goals. I'm using it to gain lean mass.
If you aren't doing this already, try going to sleep 2-3 hours after you've eaten your last meal. This helps lose weight easily. Also diet is a huge part. Lots of raw vegetables and fruits and home cooked meat with rice, potatoes or other less fattening sides helps keep the fat off. If you have access to an elliptical running machine those are great for burning fat, as is cycling and jogging. The elliptical is great if you have sore joints, it keeps the pressure off the knees and ankles. I find that working out is very similar to Penis Enlargement, gradually build up but give a solid effort and don't stop.
Let me know how it goes!
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I use both when I'm doing a Bathmate only session. I'll use the Herc to warm up and then slide into the X-40 for the remainder of the session. If I go into the X-40 right away, I can hang it up - suction sucks and it's a waste of time. I've gotten great success from the Herc but there's no way I can use it alone anymore. My girth is about right around 17 cm (6.75 inches) at midshaft and over 18 cm (7 inches) at the base and I can only last for more than a few minutes before it starts to hurt. That damn X-40 though is a beast and I feel like a tadpole in that thing. I also heard about the mid-range model that was supposed to be out last year - I wish they'd hurry up and release the damn thing!
 
MMandingo;480642 said:
I use both when I'm doing a Bathmate only session. I'll use the Herc to warm up and then slide into the X-40 for the remainder of the session. If I go into the X-40 right away, I can hang it up - suction sucks and it's a waste of time. I've gotten great success from the Herc but there's no way I can use it alone anymore. My girth is about right around 17 cm (6.75 inches) at midshaft and over 18 cm (7 inches) at the base and I can only last for more than a few minutes before it starts to hurt. That damn X-40 though is a beast and I feel like a tadpole in that thing. I also heard about the mid-range model that was supposed to be out last year - I wish they'd hurry up and release the damn thing!
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That's a great idea. Use the X-40 first and then jump into the X-40. I'll def use this technique once I outgrow yhe X-40
 
MMandingo;480642 said:
I use both when I'm doing a Bathmate only session. I'll use the Herc to warm up and then slide into the X-40 for the remainder of the session. If I go into the X-40 right away, I can hang it up - suction sucks and it's a waste of time. I've gotten great success from the Herc but there's no way I can use it alone anymore. My girth is about right around 17 cm (6.75 inches) at midshaft and over 18 cm (7 inches) at the base and I can only last for more than a few minutes before it starts to hurt. That damn X-40 though is a beast and I feel like a tadpole in that thing. I also heard about the mid-range model that was supposed to be out last year - I wish they'd hurry up and release the damn thing!
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Thanks for the tip __________, that's what I have been doing so far. Same thing with me, X-40 is useless unless I do a few sets in X-40 first though.
6.75" girth is very thick though, it's funny that they make the X-40 so big with no mid-sized model seeing as guys even your size are having trouble with it.
It's as if their market is men with below average/average penises and farm animals.
 
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