Hey guys,

Just reading up to date. I can get some dianabol off a mate but he only has that. What's your advice on a dianabol cycle only, and what else would you need to do.
Or is it not worth it, or must be used with an adrogenic also???
 
The only real good information that I can inject into this thread is that besides Clomid as your estrogen blocker, your going to need a liver protectant, if your not already taking one.
Milk thistle is where it's at for saving your liver!
 
Steroids and the "real" supplements are the one part of bodybuilding that I don't know much about, and I really want to change that...
 
prince Albert;252453 said:
Red stay well clear of websites like that its a good way of getting scammed either fake gear or no gear,fake gear is nigh on impossible to detect and is big business.

Tapering the dosage the way they recommend is old school,25-30mg a week for 5-6 weeks is a good starting dosage,pct can be done the way they recommend.

D/bol is very effective but a lot of the gains are water weight and that needs to be remembered,you often here lads say its crap as they loose most of the gains when they finish the cycle but they have just lost the water bloat.

Sides,water retention big style which leads to breathing problems,lower back pumps which can be really painful,calf pumps while driving,shin splints,cardio in general is a no go.

Acne,facial acne,excessive oily skin.

Nose bleeds from the increase in blood pressure.

Tiredness feeling lethargic.

Loss of appetite is pretty common and a bad thing as you need to eat.

PCT,clomid is evil stuff,can give bad sides,really bad headaches that last all day,blurred vision,clomid blues can make you very emotional,watching tv and you may start crying.A good tip is to take clomid just before going to bed that helps me a lot with the headaches.

Gains are down to diet,so high protien high calories,lift heavy and basic and sleep,you will gain a shit load of water regardless of diet but you will loose that.

After pct 5-6lbs of bodyweight would be a realistic gain.

If you can get hold of it T-bol is a better choice,you don't get the massive water gain.

Exactly right what Albert says. I did a Dbol only cycle awhile back and gained at one stage something like 15lbs but after the PCT I have a solid [touch wood] 6-8lbs gain which I'm happy with and helped me get past a sticky point.

Dbol doesnt affect testosterone, it hammers protein synthesis through the roof and I only used a dosage of 15mg Eeach day with weekends off. I used Nolva and Clomid comming off alongwith tribulus. I have read in the medical literature here in the UK that they used Dbol in the 60's on children and adolescents with growth problems at a dosage of 5-10mg and it worked wonders for them. The dosages BBs use are insane .. u dont need much.
 
So, you guys obviously know your stuff. So what's the concensus - Dbol or Tbol? And where would you recommend getting it from?
 
Stay away from Net sites Buy local , Gyms ....etc

Do your homework and go with injectable , less stress on your liver kidneys .

Id say if you are a newbie to this ..I would say stack some Deca with Equabiose for 8 weeks Eat right , work out till you puke and sleep plenty and you will get 30 Pounds and keep most of it ..looking for size to keep ??? go Anabolic Androgenic will give you temporary gains mostly water and bloating . Enough said I don't want to lose my license ...lol
 
My personel favourite cycle is:-

week 1-5 40mg danabol, 400mg deca, 500mg test enanthate
week 6-10 400mg deca, 500mg test enanthate
week 11-12 500mg tes enanthate

its a good all round cycle.
 
you shouldnt stack deca and equpoise they both so similar personally i'd stack stack test with the deca, otherweise you could get a bad case of deca dick, only my opinion mind.
 
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Ive done a test E and proviron cycle with hcg throughout followed by nolva+clomid+tribulus and tonglat ali for natural t boosting...i gained about 6 lbs and kept it all

best advice is to do lots of research and find a good source....

elite fitness and outlawmuscle are very legit
 
I did a Dbol only cycle for 10 weeks at 15mg ED with the weekends off.
Weekends were skipped to keep stress off the Liver and prevent total shutdown from such a long course. I took the dosage in one go and sure I know all about the halflife being not long and guys breaking the dosage through the day for even blood levels etc but wasnt worth it with 15mg.

Anyways I did that for 10 weeks straight and did my HIT routine consistently ... nothing out of the ordinary. Diet was good.

After the 10 weeks, well week 9 I started Nolvadex at 20mg ED and than starting week 10 [End of cycle] hit Clomid at 50mg ED. Did the clomid for 20 days but stuck with the Nolvadex for 4 weeks. Both dosages are low for those two drugs but I didnt need such a massive dosage from my lower dosage in the Dbol.

During this time I was takeing Rhodiola Rosea [Good for strength], Tribulus Terrestris at 90% Saponin strength plus some Fenotest. I had the Fenotest around and its mainly Fenugreek extract, similer to Tribulus.

The Tribulus was for the whole 4 weeks at 1000mg [1g] ED split into two disages every 6-8 hours.

OK the results .. which many of my mates said would be shit .... I gained around 18lbs in the actual cycle ... not bad for 15mg dbol ED with weekends skipped!!! but as we know Dbol gains dont keep well, but I managed to cement 8/9 solid pounds of good quality mass ... mostly muscle. I was happy as a pig in shit.

Try that cycle if your new ... not harsh on the liver at all and I took 1g of Milk Thistle EVERY DAY during the cycle, which kept that liver in tip top condition.

NOTE: Dont always believe everything you read on these BB forums from stupid twats who LIVE on them. At the end of the day USE COMMON SENSE and RESEARCH your drug of choice and look into PROPenis EnlargementR MEDICAL LITERATURE such as guys who are qualified in medicine and know about the compounds on a medical level. Guys like that write books on them with many tips and advice. I'm not saying that all advice on BB forums is bad .. IT ISNT but be careful as some know FUCK ALL and are on the juice most of their lives and cant get off the stuff!!! PCT is the most important part of it all, get that right and you will keep most of your gains and I would have ran HCG with what I know now but you live and learn.

Steroids are a good way to help one gain an edge but dont use them all the time ... 2 cycles per year is plenty.
 
Oh yea and I bought my supplies from China ... who said they were all phony?
 
I never did Dbol, but did a lot of other stuff from age 19-23. I took roughly 2 years off the gym, and am making incredible gains coming back all natural. IF you are going to take Dbol you need to stack it with something else like Deca. And when you get off it, a good PCT to use is the ANDRO // Superdrol. You will keep a lot of your gains using that, which took me many years to figure out.

I don't recommend the use of Anabolic steroids. They screw with your mind, and are awesome when you are on them, but can be devastating when you get off. Losing your gains causes depression, and not only that your sex life goes in the toilet until your natural test production kicks in.
 
tgotti83;306017 said:
I don't recommend the use of Anabolic steroids. They screw with your mind, and are awesome when you are on them, but can be devastating when you get off. Losing your gains causes depression, and not only that your sex life goes in the toilet until your natural test production kicks in.


X100!!!!!!!!
 
@RED

The doses of dbol you used wouldn't have much of an impact on test levels, but if you used it as is commonly recommended (about 20-30mg every day for two months) you might see a big decrease in natural test post cycle. Also, with orals, it is best to use them every day in divided doses since the half-life is so short.
 
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