REDZULU2003

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I just want feedback on anyone who has USED a dianabol cycle and what they noticed and the amount of gains they kept during the PCT.

I've researched heavily into dianabol because I might take it in the near future to get me the mass I need to urgently start rugby again.

Well aware of many loseing gains when they stop the cycle and lots of water is stored and than excreted on the cycle end BUT I have also noted guys who have gained 22lbs and kept 17 pounds, guys gaining 10lbs and keeping 8lbs while on Dianabol alone.

I would buy from http://www.eurobolica.com/cycles.htm#3 and that link is the begginers cycle with dianabol with clomid as the PCT kicking in during the later weeks.

Price is here http://www.eurobolica.com/prices.htm#3 $145 or £77

The site is real as a mate of myn orders alsorts of shit from it each month.

I dont want lectures about steroids, I have already done a pro hormone cycle from October to December and gained 8lbs and kept ALL OF IT with my PCT .. I aint sili like some of those kids on many of the BB sites who ask about this stuff which is why I dont join them because you get labelled as a know nothing and that seems common and as you all know me here I post this .. well here.

This is aimed mainly at those who have USED dianabol on its own in the cycle.

If anyone wants to chime in some useful comments I would love to know and especially ways to KEEP the gains during the PCT.

The cycle will last 5 weeks and than weeks 6,7,8 is the PCT .. its not 8-12 weeks like some cycles and my prohormone cycle was 8 weeks on with 8 weeks PCT.

I will also write my whole account of that prohormone cycle very soon with what I used etc as they do work.

thanks
 
Red stay well clear of websites like that its a good way of getting scammed either fake gear or no gear,fake gear is nigh on impossible to detect and is big business.

Tapering the dosage the way they recommend is old school,25-30mg a week for 5-6 weeks is a good starting dosage,pct can be done the way they recommend.

D/bol is very effective but a lot of the gains are water weight and that needs to be remembered,you often here lads say its crap as they loose most of the gains when they finish the cycle but they have just lost the water bloat.

Sides,water retention big style which leads to breathing problems,lower back pumps which can be really painful,calf pumps while driving,shin splints,cardio in general is a no go.

Acne,facial acne,excessive oily skin.

Nose bleeds from the increase in blood pressure.

Tiredness feeling lethargic.

Loss of appetite is pretty common and a bad thing as you need to eat.

PCT,clomid is evil stuff,can give bad sides,really bad headaches that last all day,blurred vision,clomid blues can make you very emotional,watching tv and you may start crying.A good tip is to take clomid just before going to bed that helps me a lot with the headaches.

Gains are down to diet,so high protien high calories,lift heavy and basic and sleep,you will gain a shit load of water regardless of diet but you will loose that.

After pct 5-6lbs of bodyweight would be a realistic gain.

If you can get hold of it T-bol is a better choice,you don't get the massive water gain.
 
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Just checked on the british dragon website and they are not in there approved list of suppliers,be careful.
 
guys i think british dragon is out for good last time i heard something about them so maybe check if they are still around befor buying into old lots of bad juice.

Peace

Mike
 
8InchMIKE said:
guys i think british dragon is out for good last time i heard something about them so maybe check if they are still around befor buying into old lots of bad juice.

Peace

Mike

From BD

"British Dragon has always been a procurement company. However, with an aim toward producing licensed products, we formed a partnership in Eastern Europe to manufacture. Before this was finalised, sub-standard products were being produced which were not to the standard nor tradition of British Dragon.

Thus, no genuine British Dragon products (as under the control of the founders) will be produced after December, 2006.

All our regular distributors as listed on the Suppliers list will have sufficient stock until well into the new year (2007).

British Dragon would like to thank its loyal supporters.
 
Thanks for the advice guys ... think I will ditch the idea than as like you say the site could be dodgy and the water scares but would like to have tried it but dont want to be really down when the weight goes so to speak.

I have been speaking to a US supplier, the guy who infact supplied me with the prohormones I took from Oct-Dec and gained 8lbs in that time and did the PCT for 8 weeks, ending soon so he knew his stuff and dosages.

Took Halo-D and 13-ethyl-bolan back than and will write a review on them soon.

The product he told me about now is one called 19-nor-tren which is a Trenbolone product but 19-nor-tren is a prohormone and once ingested it turns into Trenbolone.

Thinking maybe going with that ... not Trenbolone direct but via the prohormone 19-nor-tren which turns to that anyways ... looked up on Tren and found that its great for cutting phases and getting ripped look plus strength but not great on mass building which is what I want but it does have some mass gains ... would THINK about stacking it with Halo-D but preferably with money issues take it on its own.

The PCT would be the same as I have just took which DID THE SHITS ... Androbolix and P6 Extreme 2006 edition.


So any advice on Trenbolone results especially with regard to mass would be great.

Many thanks
 
Carn't speak for prohormone's as i no very little on how effective they are,don't see the point if your in the uk as its not illegal to use the real thing.

Used tren a few times and its very effective,big strength increases,if on a cutting diet it gives a hard vascular look,very good on a bulk as well when stacked with test.

Worst sides are excessive sweating,especially in bed also insomnia,its a bit like deca in that its best not to use by itself as it can cause quite a bad loss of labido.
 
Shoot me an e-mail redzula and i will give you some good advise you want to hear! im a bodybuilder and have been in the game of gear for 4 years, and no d-bol is not what you want by itself! Anavar at 60mg a day is a dam nice cycle by itself if your scared of needles, Best cycle their is though without a doubt is test prop, tren actate cycle, taking 1cc of each everyday to every other day. The only cycle that can really put serious mass on while cutting good bodyfat!
 
Hey Prince Albert and ODIN,

i may be PM'ing you dudes ( if that's alright ? ) one of these days cause i need to talk to someone with experience on this whole matter ( juice )

I know quite a lot about it but mainly the chemical part of it and no real world usage experience. I fear somethings like gynecomastia and liver sides as well as a few others and if it's cool i'd appreciate the help.

If on-the-other-hand it is NOT cool then just tell me and i'll understand.

Peace

Mike
 
Odin said:
Shoot me an e-mail redzula and i will give you some good advise you want to hear! im a bodybuilder and have been in the game of gear for 4 years, and no d-bol is not what you want by itself! Anavar at 60mg a day is a dam nice cycle by itself if your scared of needles, Best cycle their is though without a doubt is test prop, tren actate cycle, taking 1cc of each everyday to every other day. The only cycle that can really put serious mass on while cutting good bodyfat!

T-bol gives similar results to var and is less expensive,tren and test does make a good lean bulk cycle but there are many other options.
 
My first d-bol cycle was positive...good gains, but hammer the protein, seems to help control the water bloat...if u want tren, buy finiplix-h carts from a vet supplier, get a kit from kits-n-more, and research on how to make your own...about $110 for a 40 cc bottle at 90-100 mgs/cc...safer than ordering the already made off the net at $225 a bottle...
 
prince Albert said:
T-bol gives similar results to var and is less expensive,tren and test does make a good lean bulk cycle but there are many other options.

Var is quiet cheap if you get the powder then put it into 50ml of everclear, and use a dropper. You can get that from legit powder sources in china for anywhere from $8-16 a gram, so $40 for about 2 months worth is not bad at 60mg a ml, T-bol is pretty cheap as well in powder form. With 100% powder you can get pretty much anything really cheap. Lifetime worth of cialis or viagar for under $30 dollars. However you need a secure e-mail, www.cyber-rights.net and maybe ref's.... but sign up for the e-mail. Pm me redzula and i'll give you the name of the board with 1000's of members and a good legit UK source. If your not happy ban my account i've had here for 3 years.
 
BTW for the record here are my ligit stat's for the hell of it.

5'9 230 pounds
7% bodyfat
20 inch arms
52 inch chest
33 inch waist
365x6 on incline bench
405x20 deep squats
 
Odin said:
BTW for the record here are my ligit stat's for the hell of it.

5'9 230 pounds
7% bodyfat
20 inch arms
52 inch chest
33 inch waist
365x6 on incline bench
405x20 deep squats

Come on don't be shy lets see the pics.
 
240 pounds in this pic, and not looking the best do to a cold i had for 2 weeks.
 
I will let you know about the prohormone stuff ... reasons for me doing that was I didnt know anyone who had steroids [real stuff] many could have sold me shit that could have killed me.

The prohormones are actually steroids anyway that just turn into them once inyour body. They aint as cheap though.

Did keep all 8lbs of what I gained ... really happy about that ... its a good start for someone who oneday wants to use AAS ... dont jump straight into it, try prohormones first.

What I'm thinking of right now is dbol with tren acetate and stanzolol. Take the dbol for the first 5-6 weeks every 3-4 hours during the day as it has a short life ... dbol for the start of the cycle to get gains going.

The tren+stan will come in from week 6 or 7 onwards for 8 weeks going into the PCT which will be Tamoxifen [Nolvadex] and tribullus based products alongwith milk thistle.

I have been told that this is a very good mass stack. The dbol will kick start gains and the tren and stan will keep the gains going and help keep them also ... my diet is VERY strict with 500g carbs and 300g protein eachday but when the cycle starts which wont be till April anyway I will be takeing 400g of protein and 600g of carbs daily.

As I'm new to AAS I dont want to start injecting myself yet and I disagree strongly with that bullshit phrase ''if your not ready to inject your not ready for AAS'' thats balls ... I aint going to slap needles in me willy nilly for the hell of it even if it could be better results as I aint confident doing that to myself yet and want to get experience on cycles before I mess with that.

They are SO MANY steroids and all of all types and work so different to oneanother ... its hard to choose but hopefully my mind is set on the cycle I have discussed here ... shame dbol gets so much bad press. Arnold used it with test on his cycles so it cant be that bad.
 
Red running orals for that long is not a good idea they are 17 aa and will raise liver values,5-6 weeks is long enough,the reason injectables are recommended is they do not raise liver values the way orals do,if you are going to use orals for that long then be sure to get blood work taken.

If you don't want to inject then i would go for either d/bol or t/bol for 5-6 weeks.

Or go for 2 shots of test enath a week 500mg.

Keep it simple.
 
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