Hello gents,
I had the Elist implant "experience" (insertion, infection, removal) and recently had dr Elist remove some scar tissue. I am back to square one (before PE surgery) except with less money and a numb dorsal shaft from nerve damage.
I consulted with both Dr Elist and Dr Rosenthal about getting the ligs cut because my goals are to:
1) become a shower not a grower (stop turteling)
2) gain flaccid length
3) gain erect length
Dr Elist refuses to do a lig cut on me because he believes that people more often heal shorter because of scar tissue retraction. He also says I'm too lean (I'm a tall skinny long distance runner) to get a lig cut because there isn't any fat to stitch into the defect to stop lig reattachment.
I had a consultation/evaluation with Dr Rosenthal and he said that people only have scar tissue retraction problems from the old VY method. He only does the contemporary horizontal incision method. Dr Rosenthal also said that you don't need to stitch fat into the defect because he removes so much tissue that he rarely ever sees his patients reattach.
Dr Elist believes that ligaments are more elastic then scar tissue and Dr Rosenthal believes scar tissue is more elastic then ligaments. So Rosenthal is pro lig cut and Elist is against the lig cut.
I want to hear from those who have had or personally know someone who have had their ligs cut:
1) should I contact Dr Gary Alter for a third opinion and evaluation? (he is expensive so not my first choice)
2) did you stop turteling after your lig cut?
3) are you happy with your lig cut and would you recommend a lig cut to a guy like me
4) any other advice and comments are appreciated
I've tried Manuel PE, traction devices, hanging and pumps way before PE surgery (about 7 years experience) and found that all gains are always lost when I discontinue PE, even when I were consistent for a long period of prescribed time. My penis and ligs seem to have a "use it or lost it" phenomenon like you would muscle growth except in terms of flexibility and expandibility.
All the best brothers,
-cvbbc
I had the Elist implant "experience" (insertion, infection, removal) and recently had dr Elist remove some scar tissue. I am back to square one (before PE surgery) except with less money and a numb dorsal shaft from nerve damage.
I consulted with both Dr Elist and Dr Rosenthal about getting the ligs cut because my goals are to:
1) become a shower not a grower (stop turteling)
2) gain flaccid length
3) gain erect length
Dr Elist refuses to do a lig cut on me because he believes that people more often heal shorter because of scar tissue retraction. He also says I'm too lean (I'm a tall skinny long distance runner) to get a lig cut because there isn't any fat to stitch into the defect to stop lig reattachment.
I had a consultation/evaluation with Dr Rosenthal and he said that people only have scar tissue retraction problems from the old VY method. He only does the contemporary horizontal incision method. Dr Rosenthal also said that you don't need to stitch fat into the defect because he removes so much tissue that he rarely ever sees his patients reattach.
Dr Elist believes that ligaments are more elastic then scar tissue and Dr Rosenthal believes scar tissue is more elastic then ligaments. So Rosenthal is pro lig cut and Elist is against the lig cut.
I want to hear from those who have had or personally know someone who have had their ligs cut:
1) should I contact Dr Gary Alter for a third opinion and evaluation? (he is expensive so not my first choice)
2) did you stop turteling after your lig cut?
3) are you happy with your lig cut and would you recommend a lig cut to a guy like me
4) any other advice and comments are appreciated
I've tried Manuel PE, traction devices, hanging and pumps way before PE surgery (about 7 years experience) and found that all gains are always lost when I discontinue PE, even when I were consistent for a long period of prescribed time. My penis and ligs seem to have a "use it or lost it" phenomenon like you would muscle growth except in terms of flexibility and expandibility.
All the best brothers,
-cvbbc
