Bib could you help please?

Bigger,

Thanks for your words of caution. You are right.

I went to the chemist to buy some more Aspirin and Ibuprofen and the lady behind the counter told me that they should not be taken together and that I should choose one or the other. So I am taking 80mg of Aspirin at 8 am, 3pm and 10pm.

All the best, I appreciate all the help you have given me in the past.

Bluenun

Blue,

No problem. I hope you are able to come back and get back to hanging again. It may just be a question of conditioning of the vessels and other soft tissues.

Bigger

Bigger,

I would really like to hang again in the future as I want to add 1 inch to the length of my penis.
What would be the best way to condition the vessels and other soft tissues?

When I first started hangin in May 2004 I was hanging between 3 and 4 hours a day with 2.2 lbs then moved up to 3lbs a week later and then 4.2 lbs.
I developed a thrombosis in my dorsal vein and a few other little ones but do not know what the cause was as I was pumping and clamping at the time.

I believed clamping was the problem for me so will never do that again.

This time around when I started Penis Enlargement in September 2004 I just pumped at low hg for 3 x 8 minute sets for 4 weeks then decided to start hanging again.

I decided to start off with 1 set a day then 2 and eventually 4 x 15 minute sets a day, 2 in the morning and 2 in the evening working my way up from 4.4 to 6.6 and 8.8 lbs.

I would be interested to know the best way to condition my vessels which seem to be my limiting factor.

Bluenun

blue,

>What would be the best way to condition the vessels and other soft tissues?<

The only things I know of to help prevent injury are going up slowly in weight, and using heat. I always used heat for 10-20 minutes before starting, and then for the first ten minutes of the first half of my sets.

>This time around when I started Penis Enlargement in September 2004 I just pumped at low hg for 3 x 8 minute sets for 4 weeks then decided to start hanging again.

I decided to start off with 1 set a day then 2 and eventually 4 x 15 minute sets a day, 2 in the morning and 2 in the evening working my way up from 4.4 to 6.6 and 8.8 lbs.<

If you are getting good stretches at those weights, then you need to surely only move up one lb or so at a time, and no more than one lb per week. That is the only way I know to condition the soft tissues, by slowly moving up in weight.

Also, do not try to add sets too quickly. Add no more than one set per week until you reach the amount of hang time available. Then begin moving up in weight if needed. Do not move up in time and weight at the same time.

The vast majority of problems I have read about have come from moving up too quickly in weight and/or time.

>I would be interested to know the best way to condition my vessels which seem to be my limiting factor.<

Moving up slowly, the use of heat, and light jelqing at 30-70% erection.

Bigger

Hi Bigger,

I have healed up and been pumping daily at low HG for 2 weeks now.

When I stretch manually BTC or SD I can feel some vessels (not previously thrombosed) in my foreskin tighten up but this does not happen when I stretch up.

My lot is about 7:30 so I have started hanging OTS. Starting off with 2 x 5 minutes sets.
Using a heat pad before and during hanging.
Also been warming up with 10% erect bends and jelquing.

I have attached a picture of my set up which is a squat stand behind my chair.
I attach one end of the strap to my BIB hanger and hang it over the squat stand.

Two concerns I have so far are, when the weight is attached and hanging over the stand it does not feel anywhere near as heavy as it would were I hanging BTC or SD.
I guess this is because there is friction where the strap meets the stand.
I am not sure whether there is anything I can do about it or just add more weight.
Been using 8lbs.

The second concern is that with the weight attached, if I feel the underside of my penis it appears there is no tension at all (I thought this is where it would be tight if I was pulling out the inner penis)
but the front of my penis is tight all the way down to and including the fundiform ligament.

Your views would be appreciated.

bluenun,

>When I stretch manually BTC or SD I can feel some vessels (not previously thrombosed) in my foreskin tighten up but this does not happen when I stretch up.<

Are you positive these are vessels? By their very nature, blood vessels are very elastic. They stretch easily to several times their natural length. Generally, the reason for a Thrombosis is a spot will become injured in the vesssel, plaque will be laid down to heal the injury, blood flow is reduced or stopped, and a clot will form at the injury site stopping all blood flow.

I would be interested in further description of what you are seeing and feeling.

>Also been warming up with 10% erect bends and jelquing.<

I don't get this. How can you warm up with erect bends and jelqing? They are fairly stressful activities at the best of times. Why not just warm up with a rice sock or heating pad? I do not recommend any girth work, no jelqing and surely no erect bends before hanging. Just warm up and hang. If you want to do girth work at the same time as length work, then be sure to do it after hanging, but I do not recommend that either.

I do recommend light jelqing between sets, without unwrapping, and at the end of the hanging session after unwrapping. This is to help return full circulation.

>I have attached a picture of my set up which is a squat stand behind my chair.
I attach one end of the strap to my BIB hanger and hang it over the squat stand.<

Looks good. Are you able to do other activities while hanging? Are you able to relax?

>Two concerns I have so far are, when the weight is attached and hanging over the stand it does not feel anywhere near as heavy as it would were I hanging BTC or SD.
I guess this is because there is friction where the strap meets the stand.
I am not sure whether there is anything I can do about it or just add more weight.
Been using 8lbs.<

Never go by the numbers on the plates, except to know and record how much you are doing. Go by how the weight feels. Friction can work both ways. It can impede the stress to your unit, or if you pull back a little while hanging, it can increase the stress.

Further, the stresses are different, and the conditioning is diffrent for each angle of hang. Ex.: You may work up to 20 lbs BTC, but when you switch to OTS, you should not start at that same 20 lbs. Start as a beginner. Then slowly work up in weight to find your Max weight at the new angle.

Realize that for most of the angles of hang, you are stressing at least some different UNCONDITIONED tissues.

>The second concern is that with the weight attached, if I feel the underside of my penis it appears there is no tension at all (I thought this is where it would be tight if I was pulling out the inner penis)
but the front of my penis is tight all the way down to and including the fundiform ligament.<

Do you mean the CS vs the two CC's? Many times, if not most of the time, my CS just went along for the ride. You will probably find that the tunica surrounding the two major chambers, CCs, which includes where they join, the septum, are much more substantial than the thinner tunica surrounding the CS.

Just as with other softer tissues, the nerves, blood vessels, skin, smooth muscle, the thinner, less substantial tunica of the CS is fairly easy to stretch, grow.

The CS has to be more pliable, looser than the CCs in order for ejaculate to pass through the urethra while mantaining an erection. Increased blood pressure pressing against the tough tunica is what produces an erection. The two major chambers provide most, if not all, of this turgidity.

Just curious, how do you feel the tightness all the way down to your fund lig? How is stress at the upper angles putting stress on the fund lig.

Good stuff.

Bigger

Thanks for your input.
I think it will be a bit confusing if I answer within the above post/text, so will do it separately.

I am not positive what I am feeling are vessels.
My very first Thrombosed vessel (May 04) was caused by clamping. It is hardly surprising really as I was clamping very tight. It believe it was a large vein that had lumps running up it's length, there were also other smaller ones branching off the larger one that felt like a tight cord or string.
They main ones took 13 weeks to clear, a couple still remain to this day.

As you may remember I started back up in September 04 pumping and then hanging. I then found two more of what I think were thrombosed veins (I could be wrong) in November. I assumed they were caused by the stretching of my foreskin. I stopped all Penis Enlargement and they cleared up in about 7 weeks.

Now when I pull my penis SD even with my foreskin pulled back I can feel thin, hard lengths of something. I had assumed they were blood vessels. What else could they be, lymphatic vessels? I do not know what other structures are there.
If I pull SD with some of the foreskin the hard lengths feel a bit thicker and I can feel more of them.
They start at the base and run the almost to the top of my foreskin.

Sorry for the confusion, I meant I had been warming up before pumping with a heat-pad for 10 minutes and then bends done almost flaccid, 10% erection. In between pumping sets I jelq at low erection levels.

Before hanging I just use a heat-pad.

Yes I am able to use the PC and type while I am hanging OTS. With the height of the stand the strap just touches my shoulder which is not a problem.
I would not say that I am fully relaxed yet but hopefully this will come in time.

Tomorrow I am going to try some rope that is thinner than the strap and has a shinier surface, then reduce the weight and see how that is.

Yes the CS appears not to be stressed, the skin also feels loose there while hanging.
The CC's are tight along with the skin.

Thanks for the explanation about the chambers and the tunica, it makes a lot of sense.

As for how is my Fundiform ligament being stressed while hanging OTS, I am not sure. It surprised me as I did not expect this angle to hit my Ligaments.
I will try to look into this more when I hang tomorrow.

Bluenun