Vindicator, thanks for the answer man, I'm going to try to find the ingredients for your drink at the health food store in my town. Do you have any other good sites that talk about this? There's no hurt in trying this out, afterall it does make perfect sense, healthy cells, healthy body, healthy penis, healthy growth, healthy massive cock. I'm not gonna lie I have high hopes, I'll probably stick to this diet from now on or at least always keep this concept in mind when I plan on what I'm going to eat. THANK YOU!
 
We're quite lucky in the u.k as it is possible to get quality fruit,veg and meat localy,just a 2 minute walk from my house there are allotment stalls were you can buy eggs fruit veg that has been grown by the old blokes as a hobby,you can taste the difference compared to supermarket veg.

Same with the eggs the shells are pretty thick not thin and brittle like supermarket eggs,the yolks are a deep yellow orange unlike the pale yellow from the supermarket.

It is possible to get quality food if you are prepared to look for it.
 
I wonder how many people started doing a Penis Enlargement routine and had great gains over the years, without seeing any hard evidence (ie. before and after pics)? Should I mention all the 'expert opinions' we've all heard that Penis Enlargement doesn't work, and we're all wasting our time trying to grow our cocks?

Fortunately mine grew 1.5 x 0.5 inches all on its own at age 22-26, right when I started Penis Enlargementing...what a coincidence!

Anyhow, I'm going to try this, my diet is already very good, and I've been meaning to start taking molasses again since i know that stuff is pure gold. My grandmother used to apply molasses daily to small skin cancers that needed to be cut out, after doing this daily for months (took that long to get into the docs that was goign to cut it out) they were gone, the Dr was baffled :p
 
Well, I don't know if adjusting my ph level of my blood is gonna make my cock grow but I did a quick search on ph levels effecting sleep...because I just can't sleep anymore, must be an over 40 thing? The article is about people who have chronic pain but what ph levels do.

Anyway, pretty stinkin interesting reads to say the least. Here's one, with link provided, that should give credit to the discussion...

http://www.prolonews.com/ph_and_healing.htm

What Is pH and How Does it Affect Healing?
Ross Hauser, M.D. Marion Hauser,M.S.,R.D.

We utilize a simple diagnostic testing procedure known as Diet Typing to determine a person's under lying physiology. A significant portion of the testing involves testing the blood pH level. The normal blood pH at Caring Medical is 7.50 to 7.52. Anything above 7.52 is considered alkaline pH (higher than normal pH). Blood pH levels below 7.50 are considered acidic (low pH). The pH level, together with a glucose tolerance test and some other testing will help us determine which Hauser Diet you need to follow for your individual body type. Ensuring that our patients follow the appropriate diet helps in their overall healing, especially in conjunction with Prolotherapy.

A significant number of chronic pain patients show a lower than normal blood plasma pH. As described above, a person with low blood pH has what is termed acid blood. Acid blood is typically dark in color due to low oxygen content. Oxygen is the food that allows the body to extract and store energy from the blood. A low oxygen content in the blood compromises healing capabilities.

The treatment for acid blood is to consume foods and supplements which neutralize the blood pH. This is accomplished by consuming items which are alkaline and by reducing the intake of acidic items. Caffeine, sugar, wheat, citrus fruits, soda pop, and potatoes should be avoided, whereas protein and vegetables should be the majority of the meal. Supplements such as green algae or alfalfa also help neutralize acidic blood.

Nuts, seeds, brown rice, or soy products are good sources of protein if a vegetarian diet is preferred. People with acid blood are typically carbohydrate addicts and consume very little protein. Protein is needed in the diet because collagen, which makes up ligaments and tendons, is the most abundant protein in the body. Collagen is the building block for ligament and tendon tissue. A healthy diet with adequate amounts of protein for soft tissue growth is essential for heathy ligament and tendon injuries.

Another interesting finding is that our testing consistently reveals that chronic pain patients suffer from chronic dehydration. Chronic dehydration produces a reduction in shock absorbing capabilities of the intervertebral discs and articular cartilage, placing additional stress on the ligaments to stabilize the joints. The end result is ligament laxity, injury, and resultant chronic pain. It is very important for the person in chronic pain to drink six to eight glasses of purified water per day.
 
And here's one I read about molasses because macros brought it up and got me interested.

http://www.natureschoice.co.za/molasses.htm

Molasses is an extremely nutritious by-product of the sugar refining process. Sweet Molasses is useful as an alternative sweetener to refined cane sugar. Both Blackstrap Molasses and Sweet Molasses are extremely rich sources of minerals and vitamins. Those nutrients that are unharmed by heat are 30 times more concentrated in molasses than in the original cane juice.

Properties:

¤ One tablespoon of Molasses contains more calcium than a glass of milk (+/- 100 milligrams)

¤ One tablespoon of Molasses contains more iron than nine eggs (+/- 3 milligrams)

¤ Blackstrap molasses contains more potassium than any food

¤ Molasses contains an excellent supply of B Vitamins

¤ It is a good source of natural sugars.

¤ It is an alkali-forming food, beneficial for maintaining a proper acid-alkali balance in the body.

¤ Molasses is also rich in phosphoric acid. If this and potassium are deficient, a general breakdown of the cells, especially of the nerves and brain, can occur. (3)

¤ Molasses is also rich in copper, magnesium, chromium, manganese, molybdenum, zinc, phosphorous, Pantothenic acid, vitamin E and Inositol. Refined sugar contains none of these nutrients.

From a nutritional point of view, crude or black-strap molasses, which is only mildly sweet and not too palatable, is preferable to sweet molasses.

See composition and nutritional analysis below:

Suggestion: The benefits of molasses can be greatly increased by combining it with other foods that are rich in B Vitamins such as brewer's yeast and wheat germ.
 
So first people said that orange juice and apple juice turn into alkaline and then later on somebody is saying that fruit should be avoided so which one is right.
 
I don't know but I do think one thing.

All things being equal, I'm certain that a guy who is very healthy stands a much better chance of making gains (while vigorously training) than a guy who's diet is horrible.

If red blood cells are allowed to flow easily to the penis and connective tissues, how can this be a bad thing? If adding minerals to my diet causes my red blood cells access to the connective tissues I'm all for it.

I can't see anything but upside when it comes to adding proper nutrition to my Penis Enlargement routine...wth.
 
Who started this damn thread? Interesting stuff now that I'm reading and clicking.

Check out these two links. Although they are pertaining to chronic pain, the information contains material on collagen, fibroblasts, chondrocytes and proteoglycans. Here's the link and be sure to click on the underlined words if you're unclear of wth it is.

http://www.prolonews.com/connective_tissue_damage_the_underlying_culprit_of_chronic_pain.htm


Vindicator, nice thread dude.
 
Pandora said:
So first people said that orange juice and apple juice turn into alkaline and then later on somebody is saying that fruit should be avoided so which one is right.
most fruit and vegetables are alkalizing. Exceptions are cranberries, plums, and prunes. These fruits do not oxidize in the body, and therefore are acidizing. does not mean they are bad for you though. also, acidic urine prevents kidney stones...
 
Vindicator said:
...due to the way foods are grown, the protein of many vegetables contain too much nitrogen, which will make you acidic!
I have a fairly good education in physiology, biochemistry, organic chemistry, inorganic chemistry, etc yet I cannot figure out this quote. Nitrogen typically exists in a three times bonded state with a lone pair of electrons free to flow. This makes nitrogen an excellent nucleophile, which is a term that is almost synonymous with basic. I have a chart in one of my old textbooks that lists the pH of all the amino acids, and I can swear without looking at it that the more nitrogenous the amino acids, the more basic they are. Amines are basic. Maybe is something else going on that makes the food more acidic?
 
goldmember said:
I have a fairly good education in physiology, biochemistry, organic chemistry, inorganic chemistry, etc yet I cannot figure out this quote. Nitrogen typically exists in a three times bonded state with a lone pair of electrons free to flow. This makes nitrogen an excellent nucleophile, which is a term that is almost synonymous with basic. I have a chart in one of my old textbooks that lists the pH of all the amino acids, and I can swear without looking at it that the more nitrogenous the amino acids, the more basic they are. Amines are basic. Maybe is something else going on that makes the food more acidic?
bump
 
Ok, this thread was started Aug 5th by Vindicator. I read it the first night and started thinking about the process of the entire body, how nutrition and exercise might effect gains while on a Penis Enlargement routine.

I began reading about blood ph levels, blood components, reactions to lack of oxygen in the cells, etc. I came across numerous sites containing tons of info, not necessarily backing up Vindicator, but it sure did reinforce some of his comments. (Hell, I even found out that a guy won the Nobel prize in 1932 for showing how to cure cancer, or something along those lines.)

Let's face it, if you have an 8 cylinder car running on 4 or 5 cylinders, you're not gonna get optimum performance or gas mileage.

For the body, nutrition and exercise are what cause more blood flow which means more efficient processes of oxygen placement and waste removal.

And we want a longer, fatter, harder cock. So how does this come into play?

When we stretch or work girth we need more blood to flow either during or after the workout is over. Most here will think the blood volume is what counts. Definitely does but there's more. When your cock is saturated with an over abundance of blood, it's bringing red blood cells, specifically hemoglobin, which carry oxygen to the tissues...this is very good for your cock.

Have you ever read that if you're gonna stretch you should also incorporate a jelqing program? That's because you need oxygen to the cells.

Well, here's the cool part...on Aug 7th, two days after this thread was started, I had read enough to know I needed to force way more oxygen into my system and I wanted to know if this could single handedly improve my erection quality. So I went to the football field and attemted to run.

It's been a very long time since I've run so I only did 5 x 220 yds...breathing like a mother all the way down to the bottom of my lungs.

Obviously, this takes a serious level of commitment and I didn't run again for another week. So on Monday, Aug 14th, I began running 100 yd dashes and doing lunges across the field. I have done this everyday this week, a total of four times. Each time I get better and all that stuff...blah, blah, blah, right?

Two days after I started this, on Wednesday, I noticed that when my wife hugged me or would say insinuating things to me, I felt blood flow in my cock...immediately. High school feelings. (btw, we had sex on Monday night)

Yesterday, Thursday, just 4 days into the running "program" she could just look at me and blood flow. If she touched me, it would move. So yesterday afternoon we had sex and she actually asked me if I had taken some viagra because of erection level.

So if exercise effects erection levels this fast my question is...what effect will decent nutrition and an exercise program, involving cardio work, effect gains for someone doing Penis Enlargement routines? I feel it's a crucial part of the gains process.
 
Awesome info on this so far guys. I am going to start looking for the ingredients listed on page one---looked for the molasses tonight--only found "regular" and not the blackstrap---I'll keep looking.


Kook
 
wow this is my type of thread.
so much interesting info here.
I'll be keeping a close eye on this thread.



the phrase that caught my attention was when it was mentioned that perhaps the reason we make newbie gains is that we have all these minerals and then we're are deprived and we screetch to a halt. would definately be backed up by the whole 'deconditioning' theory.

question we have to ask is, how much time is needed to resupply the minerals lost. do we actually then need rest days?

Penis Enlargement is getting more complicated by the day. Hopefully we'll find some answers that will simply all this greatly.
 
Vindicator said:
WARNING: THIS MIGHT BE THE MOST IMPORTANT POST YOU WILL EVER READ.

ANOTHER WARNING: I really suck at writing, so I can't make any guarantees as to the clarity. But fortunately, you won't need to fully understand in order to put the wheels in motion.

Since my last post was met with such enthusiasm, I thought I would take the time to address one aspect of Penis Enlargement and health in general that I know is very important to achieving what you want.

Also, for those who have sustained Penis Enlargement related injuries which are now leaving them with erection problems or similar, this post MAY offer a glimpse of hope after all else fails.

In my original thread, I was asked about my general health and nutrition. Both of these are excellent. Now, how much of my gains can I attribute to this? 60%. The other 40% I attribute to finding the optimal workout for my physiology... which I talked about. So if you think that post was important, then this one is priceless.

In that post, I stated that we are only beginning to reach what is possible in Penis Enlargement. We can give ourselves the greatest workouts in the world and still fail to reach our potentials.

Why?

Because Penis Enlargement, like any type of bodybuilding is all about stress and recovery.

Through our workouts, we place our cocks under stress. Then, our body does what it can to recover so that we're able to adapt to deeper stress in the future.

It is a truly amazing process.

Unfortunately, as those of us with lingering sports injuries, scars, etc can attest to, often the body's healing capabilities just aren't what we want them to be.

And this is not due to any fault of our bodies. It is our fault for not giving our bodies the proper fuel to heal themselves!

We focus on protein, fats, carbohydrates, vitamins, blah blah blah. But by doing so, we are doing a great injustice to our bodies.

Why?

Because we are electrical beings! Our bodies do not live off the food we eat, but rather the energy created from the food we eat.

And this energy can only be created when two opposing forces react against each other. These forces are either Acidic or Alkaline.

If you can remember, in my other thread, I said: If we can find out what our penises and its connective tissue are made of, then we can take huge leaps as to our gains.

I'm sure most of you were thinking about the structure of the penis or whatnot.

But the correct answer is that our penises are made from the only possible thing they can be made from... the elements, which are found in the earth as minerals.

What specific minerals? Nobody knows as of yet. Most people can only name about 10-20 minerals, and think they are satisfying their nutritional needs for them. While this may be true, there are 90+ trace minerals out there which create SPenis EnlargementCIFIC ELECTRICAL ENERGY NEEDED BY THE BODY IN ORDER FOR ITSELF TO REBUILD. WITHOUT THESE MINERALS, WE COULD NOT BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE AN ANABOLIC STATE THAT IS NECESSARY FOR Penis Enlargement TO SUCCESSFULLY HAPPenis EnlargementN.

It just so happens that the majority of these minerals happen to be Alkaline. This is good, as human blood is naturally slightly alkaline at a pH of 7.4. Thus, we need to keep the pH of our cells at this level if we want our bodies to be able to build new tissue. If our pH falls below this (which it WILL, since our modern day diets... even the "healthy" ones, are extremely acid-forming), then our bodies will merely focus on survival, since the bulk of our alkaline mineral reserves will have its energies drained from MAINTAINING PH, rather than BUILDING TISSUE.

I don't want to get too far into this, as I don't want to come off preachy and the whole thing is a bit complicated, but now that you know that the body's primary function is to maintain blood pH (if it deviates too far, you instantly die), it is your job to provide your body with a CONSTANT STREAM OF ALKALINE MINERALS, enough so that you can neutralize acids (to maintain proper pH) and allow new tissue growth.

Unfortunately, as I said before, you can't just focus on a few highly Alkaline minerals to do all your dirty work for you, as our tissues are made of 90+ MINERALS, of which we need ALL in order for new tissue to be created.

(This, by the way, is why there are NEWBIE GAINS. As after a certain amount of new tissue is created, we often find ourselves depleted in one or more of the 90+ trace minerals required to build new tissue! So, provide all the minerals and burst through your plateaus... assuming you are increasing intensity, of course)

So, what we need to do is:

Find a way to provide our bodies with all of the alkaline minerals needed to create this healing, anabolic energy.

Provide enough of this to ensure that our tissue pH stays above 7 (preferably 7.4ish).

So now, enough with all this mumbojumbo. Lets get er done so you guys can grow some huge cocks!

And you will do this by incorporating the following ALKALIZING DRINK into your diets:

Ingredients:
1. 2 tablespoons of blackstrap molasses (Unsulphured and ideally organic)
2. Juice of half a lemon (OR 1 tablespoon apple cider vinegar if you can't take citrus)
3. 1 tablespoon pickling lime water (= 1 tablespoon of pickling lime powder, aka calcium hydroxide, diluted in 1 gallon of distilled water) Often found in the canning section of your grocery store. Otherwise, just search for "pickling lime"
4. Small pinch of Epsom salts
5. Norwegian kelp powder 1 tablespoon VERY CHEAP SOURCE OF _ALL_ THE ALKALINE MINERALS!
6. 1 glass of distilled or alkaline mineral water (like Evian)

Here's how it's done:
Put the kelp onto a tablespoon. Take a small gulp of water and then throw the kelp into your mouth, as it is much easier to get down when it is wet.

Mix the molasses, pickling lime water, and lemon/vinegar into 8 oz of water.

Place the pinch of Epsom Salt in your mouth. If you were to put in directly in the drink, you will find that it often sits at the bottom, which is fucking annoying.

With the Epsom Salt in your mouth, drink the drink.

Also, you may want to buy some of those narrow range pH strips (they test from like 5.5pH to 8.0pH) and test your saliva each day first thing in the morning.

You will want to take the drink more often each day until you find yourself reaching a pH of 7, which then means your body contains sufficient reserves to heal itself much faster and more completely, which is exactly what you need when trying to build a bigger penis.




A few more questions---

1. I thought the lemon juice(all cirtic) were all acidic?

2. What is the pickling lime water for?


Thanks

kook
 
Lemon juice is slightly acidic at first. This acid reacts with the alkalines to allow more electrical energy to be produced. After the reaction, the lemon juice causes alkaline reactions in the body because of the alkaline minerals the lemons contain.

Pickling lime provides calcium.
 
ocd said:
Ok, this thread was started Aug 5th by Vindicator. I read it the first night and started thinking about the process of the entire body, how nutrition and exercise might effect gains while on a Penis Enlargement routine.

I began reading about blood ph levels, blood components, reactions to lack of oxygen in the cells, etc. I came across numerous sites containing tons of info, not necessarily backing up Vindicator, but it sure did reinforce some of his comments. (Hell, I even found out that a guy won the Nobel prize in 1932 for showing how to cure cancer, or something along those lines.)

Let's face it, if you have an 8 cylinder car running on 4 or 5 cylinders, you're not gonna get optimum performance or gas mileage.

For the body, nutrition and exercise are what cause more blood flow which means more efficient processes of oxygen placement and waste removal.

And we want a longer, fatter, harder cock. So how does this come into play?

When we stretch or work girth we need more blood to flow either during or after the workout is over. Most here will think the blood volume is what counts. Definitely does but there's more. When your cock is saturated with an over abundance of blood, it's bringing red blood cells, specifically hemoglobin, which carry oxygen to the tissues...this is very good for your cock.

Have you ever read that if you're gonna stretch you should also incorporate a jelqing program? That's because you need oxygen to the cells.

Well, here's the cool part...on Aug 7th, two days after this thread was started, I had read enough to know I needed to force way more oxygen into my system and I wanted to know if this could single handedly improve my erection quality. So I went to the football field and attemted to run.

It's been a very long time since I've run so I only did 5 x 220 yds...breathing like a mother all the way down to the bottom of my lungs.

Obviously, this takes a serious level of commitment and I didn't run again for another week. So on Monday, Aug 14th, I began running 100 yd dashes and doing lunges across the field. I have done this everyday this week, a total of four times. Each time I get better and all that stuff...blah, blah, blah, right?

Two days after I started this, on Wednesday, I noticed that when my wife hugged me or would say insinuating things to me, I felt blood flow in my cock...immediately. High school feelings. (btw, we had sex on Monday night)

Yesterday, Thursday, just 4 days into the running "program" she could just look at me and blood flow. If she touched me, it would move. So yesterday afternoon we had sex and she actually asked me if I had taken some viagra because of erection level.

So if exercise effects erection levels this fast my question is...what effect will decent nutrition and an exercise program, involving cardio work, effect gains for someone doing Penis Enlargement routines? I feel it's a crucial part of the gains process.

That is correct...exercise, along with nutrition is a crucial part of the process.
Your body must be in optimal shape for optimal results.. Hence the reason for the ingredients he mentions.

If you have trouble locating the ingredients...go to a local healthfood store, they should have everything you need!

By the way cancer does have a cure...it is cured by balancing the alkaline level of the body...There is also process of detoxifying the body by enemas and replenishing it with lots of fresh fruit and vegetable juices (organic).
 
Vindicator said:
MANY DIFFERENT ELECTRICAL ENERGY FREQUENCIES IN ORDER FOR THESE ORGANS TO STAY HEALTHY. And the only way to provide these frequencies is by providing, through either perfect diet (which I stand by saying is so hard to accomplish nowadays) or through supplementation (which is a lot easier. All supplements I recommend are natural foods, btw).

That is also the way to prevent or cure cancer and other ailments and illnesses!
 
Vindicator said:
Lemon juice is slightly acidic at first. This acid reacts with the alkalines to allow more electrical energy to be produced. After the reaction, the lemon juice causes alkaline reactions in the body because of the alkaline minerals the lemons contain.

Pickling lime provides calcium.
It is the hydroxide ion in pickling lime that causes alkalinization. Calcium helps out as well, but the hydroxide is more gooderer.:p

As far as the lemon juice, I doubt the minerals that lemon contains are responsible for the alkalinization. Citric acid is slightly acidic, but in the grand scheme of things, it is really just weakly acidic. Sodium citrate is included in alka-seltzer for a reason. The citrate from citric acid is most likely the reason for alkalization, and it is a Krebs cycle intermediate also, meaning it boosts energy output.

If trace minerals are what you are looking for, try finding a liquid trace mineral supplement instead of that nasty drink (although from the looks of it, it looks like it would be effective...not knocking it). Alka-seltzer and Rolaids/Tums will also raise pH levels of the body. They are expensive however, but I have an alternative:

I think a more palatable drink that would be almost as effective would be a fresh glass of lemon water in the morning, with a 1/4 tsp of baking soda. Followed with some trace minerals in a fresh glass of water.

You get:
*Citrate (from lemon)
*trace minerals (including uncommon but essential minerals, like lithium, boron, rubidium, etc.)
*Carbonate (from baking soda)
*Pure water (distilled and/or reverse osmosis is best)

Obviously, you should also eat a diet of dairy, nuts, and mostly fresh fruit and vegetables, if cooked only steamed; try to set limits on soda pop, coffee, chocolate, table salt, alcohol, and yeast bread. Obviously, this protocol isn't for everyone, but eating a piece of fruit every now and then shouldn't scare off anyone, right? And the drink mix is VERY easy to do every morning, and tastes pretty good.
 
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