jordey;529620 said:
When you squat through the whole movement its more naturaland how your knees are meant to work. If you think about when you squat parrelel or higher you have to stop mid movement so a lot of pressure is put on the knees to keep you there. For instance its fairly easy to sit at the bottom of an atg squat with weight, and to stand comfortably with the weight, but if you try and stay halfway (the bottom of a parralel squat) it won't be long before your knees start hurting

hit the nail on the head brother,ive been doing atg for about 20yrs and never had a problem
 
You should squat as low as possible and if you can't hit parallel there's something wrong with your form or you have poor flexibility, if that's the case you need to address the problem so you can squat properly.

IMO nothing builds huge legs like heavy ass squats
 
this is a subject close to my heart. since squat is my all time favorit movement.

when i started squatting it was always atg. simply because i used it for my kicks (martial arts) and i like to have full movement on those. so i was aware that i didnt do squats like everyone else did (seen people going to the extreme of putting a bench under their ass not to go low???? ) and i was aware that my squats would never compete with people around me as i was doing them differently.

at the moment im atg squatting 150 kg (330) at a bodyweight of 90kg (198)

the fun thing is that whenever i try to do a normal squat. it feels like im cheating. and i can easily do 200kg (440) but since i have no interrest or experience in this way of doing it and 440 is ALOT of KG to have on your back. i avoid doing it.

i know some old hardcore heavylifters (they where called the X-40e show. they pulled trucks lifted cars and those kind of things) they are all a bunch of old people now. but they got some great experience.

they all say: don't go too low on your squats. it fucks up your knee.

however my dad who used to lift alot has always been squatting ass to grass aswell and at age 53 he is still running and he is still training.

so far i don't have knee problems. so i will continue doing what i have been doing. but different people that i respect alot points in different directions
 
Aimingforthetop;536690 said:
this is a subject close to my heart. since squat is my all time favorit movement.

when i started squatting it was always atg. simply because i used it for my kicks (martial arts) and i like to have full movement on those. so i was aware that i didnt do squats like everyone else did (seen people going to the extreme of putting a bench under their ass not to go low???? ) and i was aware that my squats would never compete with people around me as i was doing them differently.

at the moment im atg squatting 150 kg (330) at a bodyweight of 90kg (198)

the fun thing is that whenever i try to do a normal squat. it feels like im cheating. and i can easily do 200kg (440) but since i have no interrest or experience in this way of doing it and 440 is ALOT of KG to have on your back. i avoid doing it.

i know some old hardcore heavylifters (they where called the X-40e show. they pulled trucks lifted cars and those kind of things) they are all a bunch of old people now. but they got some great experience.

they all say: don't go too low on your squats. it fucks up your knee.

however my dad who used to lift alot has always been squatting ass to grass aswell and at age 53 he is still running and he is still training.

so far i don't have knee problems. so i will continue doing what i have been doing. but different people that i respect alot points in different directions

Squatting onto a bench are called box squats there used alot by powerliftersgreat exercise.
 
Full squats were taught to me, by a man who told me that these would help with sexual function. He taught me that squatting to the full position greatly enhances the male sexual system.
 
doublelongdaddy;537351 said:
Full squats were taught to me, by a man who told me that these would help with sexual function. He taught me that squatting to the full position greatly enhances the male sexual system.

They definitely do. Developing, thicker, denser legs draws blood to your legs and pelvic region, causing improved blood circulation. You also have to kegel to maintain your posture in the deep squat position.
 
Tahir Aqbar;538790 said:
They definitely do. Developing, thicker, denser legs draws blood to your legs and pelvic region, causing improved blood circulation. You also have to kegel to maintain your posture in the deep squat position.

That is how he described it. He was my training partner for a while and one day there was a tragic accident where He and his two infant children died in a car crash fire. What an awful day that was! God Bless Him and His Family!
 
It is best to increase strength of the lower body which helps to prevent lower back pain, injury and less chances of breaking a bone.
 
Did somebody say full squats?? :) One of the greats in my opinion:

[video=youtube;s6H-xs0fPyM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6H-xs0fPyM[/video]
 
i think he is in a war with his ass.......lol
in the end the ass has to win....ahahha
 
Squats take a lot out of you when you do them right. I had many a day I'd nearly fallen down after doing them.
 
pogzee;631342 said:
dont ever let your knees go beyond 90 degrees as it causes loads of pressure on them.....

bad advice. this is incorrect; the opposite is true
 
jordey;631394 said:
bad advice. this is incorrect; the opposite is true

can you give me an explanation for that so i have a reason why should it go below that ???
maybe i can be wrong but a reason would clear it out
 
pogzee;631403 said:
can you give me an explanation for that so i have a reason why should it go below that ???
maybe i can be wrong but a reason would clear it out

when you stop a squat at 90 degrees or less, for most this is very far from what their flexibility can handle. this means the muscle are partially contracted (as a full ROM would equal full contraction), which therefore means that alot of tension in the muscle is required to reverse the weight mid rep, which therefore transers that laod and tension to the tendons/ ligaments and supporting structures of the knee. this ultimately means you are putting alot of weight on the supporting structures of the knee rather than the muscle, by reversing the weight mid contraction.

when you do a normal stance squat, pretty much everyone have the required flexibily to hit atleast parralel (which would require a greater than 90 degree knee flexion). at the bottom of a proper squat you hit a stretch reflex, meaning the muscle has reached near its limit of stretch, and produces an automatic contraction response, and pretty much relaxes the tendons as the stretch over the knee. this keeps the muscles required more involved, which ultimately takes pressure off the knees. this is how a full range of motion (until a stretch reflex has been reached) is much safer, and will also produce better results. it is also why olympic lifters can have massive knee flexion aswell as alot of forward knee travel, yet injury is uncommon
 
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