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i just wanted to throw this off you guys, and i dont know if its a repost, but i really think this could explain some things.

imo, connective tissue such as the tunica when consistently broken down and expanded without enough time to heal and adapt will actually grow back closer to its original form but tougher. so...
this goes along with the idea that increasing the time you jelq will yield gains.
true, but...
these gains can be minimal and come over a longer period of time.
so...
jelqing for the same intense amount of time consistently while allowing sufficent rest between EACH session will yied gains quicker because...
the tissue is allowed to adapt and heal in the larger size without getting tougher.
this would explain....
"newbie gains" leading to overtraining and no gains.
people gaining from increasing very very (channel7's uncle) long and intense frequent sessions.
so whats the point?
maybe it doesnt take as much work as we think. maybe we are just strengthening the tissue of our penis rather than specifically enlarging.
so...
routines that encompass 3 or 4 days of girth work or jelqing with rest days inbetween should allow gains to develop quicker with "less" work.
this also applies to stretches involving the tunica since you creating the same effect on the tissue. maybe not every other day, but lighter sessions everyday. if you stretch other areas of your body (also involves mainly connective tissue, not muscle tissue as one might think) as much as you do the tunica your flexibility would develop very slowly and probably hurt you really.

now im not saying this the holy grail of theories, just an idea that i think makes sense and have applied to my routine, and well see if it works. its just that i think we are advocating an ideal of overtraining, again i really think that prinicples we apply to connective tissue elsewhere in the body can be applied to the penis for enlargement.
what do you guys think?
 
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sounds reasonable to me.
I am doing alot of constricted bends, at maximum erection , like 110% erection.
I bend the whole tunicae and hold for say 10 seconds, working up the entire shaft.
Do this for 30minutes on a 1 on 1 off basis, this is to atack length as the tunica will get stretched and thus build back longer.

I feel soreness in my tunicae also when pressed ... I dont go longer than 30 minutes and I do the 1 on 1 off, its early days but I think itll work, thats some of the above thery into practice.
 
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thanks for the responses guys. i just think that gains should really be coming quicker and more normally for everybody and i just didnt understand why or how certain people gained with one routine and another nothing at all, i mean there had to be an explanation. hopefully ill really be able to back this up with some gains.

interestingly, the reason the tissue grows back stronger is really a form of protection against the consistent breakdown to prevent scar tissue.
 
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Interesting ideas. This may be why I seem to get less of a pump as the days in the week progress. In other words, Monday night for example, I get a very good pump from my girth workout. Tuesday and Wednesday are also pretty good. By Friday though, I'm usually getting less of a pump and really have to give 120+% in my workout to get the same pump I got on Monday. I'm thinking I'm going to start a 2 on, 1 off girth routine. :cool:
 

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stillwantmore said:
Interesting ideas. This may be why I seem to get less of a pump as the days in the week progress. In other words, Monday night for example, I get a very good pump from my girth workout. Tuesday and Wednesday are also pretty good. By Friday though, I'm usually getting less of a pump and really have to give 120+% in my workout to get the same pump I got on Monday. I'm thinking I'm going to start a 2 on, 1 off girth routine. :cool:
Good luck! You wont be able to keep your hands off it.:D
 
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blue1214198203 said:
i just wanted to throw this off you guys, and i dont know if its a repost, but i really think this could explain some things.

imo, connective tissue such as the tunica when consistently broken down and expanded without enough time to heal and adapt will actually grow back closer to its original form but tougher. so...
this goes along with the idea that increasing the time you jelq will yield gains.
true, but...
these gains can be minimal and come over a longer period of time.
so...
jelqing for the same intense amount of time consistently while allowing sufficent rest between EACH session will yied gains quicker because...
the tissue is allowed to adapt and heal in the larger size without getting tougher.
this would explain....
"newbie gains" leading to overtraining and no gains.
people gaining from increasing very very (channel7's uncle) long and intense frequent sessions.
so whats the point?
maybe it doesnt take as much work as we think. maybe we are just strengthening the tissue of our penis rather than specifically enlarging.
so...
routines that encompass 3 or 4 days of girth work or jelqing with rest days inbetween should allow gains to develop quicker with "less" work.
this also applies to stretches involving the tunica since you creating the same effect on the tissue. maybe not every other day, but lighter sessions everyday. if you stretch other areas of your body (also involves mainly connective tissue, not muscle tissue as one might think) as much as you do the tunica your flexibility would develop very slowly and probably hurt you really.

now im not saying this the holy grail of theories, just an idea that i think makes sense and have applied to my routine, and well see if it works. its just that i think we are advocating an ideal of overtraining, again i really think that prinicples we apply to connective tissue elsewhere in the body can be applied to the penis for enlargement.
what do you guys think?
Sounds really good there man. Im doing something similar, im slightly upping the intensity over time keeping it fairly strong but while keeping a high Rep count. I do not continue with jelqing until my red dots have gone (in my eyes its healed). I will post if i gain :)
 

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My cock'll hang better and bigger after a day of rest.... then I hit it again.
 
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doublelongdaddy said:
Well I missed my GIRTH routine yesterday and I am going to do it tonight. I'll see if I feel a difference.
i think youre the exception to any and all theories on pe. :p
 
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Everyone's genetic build is different just like with bodybuilding. There are people that naturally are just built more than others and the same applies to the penis. Some people gain easy and some people dont. I think everyone can gain something though eventually with enough practice and time.
 
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erm1981 said:
Everyone's genetic build is different just like with bodybuilding. There are people that naturally are just built more than others and the same applies to the penis. Some people gain easy and some people dont. I think everyone can gain something though eventually with enough practice and time.
yeah, but certain principles generally apply to everyone and can be used as bases for routines.
 
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blue1214198203 said:
i just wanted to throw this off you guys, and i dont know if its a repost, but i really think this could explain some things.

imo, connective tissue such as the tunica when consistently broken down and expanded without enough time to heal and adapt will actually grow back closer to its original form but tougher. so...
this goes along with the idea that increasing the time you jelq will yield gains.
true, but...
these gains can be minimal and come over a longer period of time.
so...
jelqing for the same intense amount of time consistently while allowing sufficent rest between EACH session will yied gains quicker because...
the tissue is allowed to adapt and heal in the larger size without getting tougher.
this would explain....
"newbie gains" leading to overtraining and no gains.
people gaining from increasing very very (channel7's uncle) long and intense frequent sessions.
so whats the point?
maybe it doesnt take as much work as we think. maybe we are just strengthening the tissue of our penis rather than specifically enlarging.
so...
Ok I just finished 10 sessions over about 22 days. Sometimes I took two days break because my penis still felt like it was recovering.

I do 1 hour of work all girth work. I was doing 3 minutes jelq, 1 minute rest. Until 32 minutes elapsed. So in total 24 minutes of jeqling, and most of this trying for erect jeqling.

Then I rest two minutes, then I do 2 minute 'grips' on my penis. I grab somewhere on the shaft random and just squeeze with one hand for two minutes. Then I rest one minute and grab with the other hand for two minutes. I do 8 grabs in total. So that takes me with resting 24 minutes.

Then I cold wrapped for 20 minutes. I use a cold water face cloth for 10 minutes, then ice wrap for 10 minutes. My penis feels compact after, but retains more size then if you just don't wrap . And the bloodflow feels excellent.

Anyway the problem for me is I don't think I gained to much over those 22 days. I measured throughout and I did gain some length like 1/16th of an inch. Like I can measure 7.75 no problem now. Even a little bit over with a good erection. But not to 7.87.

In girth I didn't change. It does feel harder though. Noticeably harder along the shaft.

The downside is my head size seemed to go down. And my head seemed less sensitive.

I am uncut and when I take rest days for some reason my forskin doesn't seem to coat the head with lubricant and keep it as sensitive. And I had the dohnut effect below the head for a lot of the time. Btw I've seen guys mention this effect and not know why. What it does is during sex it keep the foreskin below the head. And it sort of 'seals' the foreskin with the upper shaft.

This is definately the purpose of it as when jerking off it never comes.

So I'm not entirely sure what to think now. For the next 20 days I am thinking of going hardcore again. Today I did 40 minutes of jelqing then 40 minutes of gripping. My penis got pretty huge and at the very end after 1 hour and 10 minutes I was struggling to keep going. My cock was fighting to stay in the game. It literaly felt like a muscle after you've done a lot of sets.

But I pushed through and finished which was a real struggle. My cock felt like it was going to explode. I had been semi jerking it the whole time. Like when I'm gripping it with one hand, for parts I move the foreskin up and down on the head. And same when I'm jelqing, about once a minute I stop for a while and keep gripping with one hand, then with the other I move the foreskin up and down the head. So at 70 minutes to when I finished with 80 minutes I couldn't do anything but grip my cock because when I went to jerk it a bit it felt like it was going to explode in orgasm.

I believe this is what you want. I also know what SWM is saying. When I was working out for over 1.5 hours a day for my first month of girth work. Doing two workouts a day. After a while my cock started to not get fully hard. By the time I took a five day break, I couldn't feel like I was really expanding the tissue like when I first started. It wasn't getting a good enough hard ons to really expand like I wanted.

I also believe one on one off doesn't 'build up' the expansion like going multiple days in a row though. Right now I'm thinking about 3 on 1 off. Or maybe 4 on 1 off. And doing my 80 minute workout each on day.

Also now I'm thinking about going no jacking off whatsoever. So that if my body wants sexual pleasure it will have to get harder and that for the workout. I think this will be hard though to maintain.

I'm thinking of making a smaller routine like 20 minutes jelqing/ 20 minutes gripping for if later during an 'on' day, I can't resist needing sexual pleasure. I don't know what I'll do during an 'off' day.
 
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I forgot to mention about wrapping now. I didn't wrap today just to see what it was like again. I sort of prefer the cold wrap as after a number of hours my penis was actualy bigger then with no wrapping . And although it felt really compact the blood flow felt excellent. And like it was being 'nourished'.

After working out so hard today I was going to do a hot wrap to after, but my body felt like it was telling me it really didn't want a hot wrap . Like it wanted to cool down and badly.

So I'm going to cold wrap like I have been for this upcoming 20 days. And see if it wasn't the rest days that was playing with my head size and sensitivity, with the dohnut effect.
 

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