Then it might be they are not actually maxing it. It's still fine so I'll be good.
 
acromegaly;681276 said:
Wine vac wins, but bath mate is an awesome company so I'm not going to tell everyone to take the valve out and epoxy the wine vac plug in. If you break ur bm it's on u nobody else

I use wine vac mod and didnt have to take anything out, valve is stil on.
I just use latex sleeve on top and the pump.
 
BigBeardBig;681326 said:
I use wine vac mod and didnt have to take anything out, valve is stil on.
I just use latex sleeve on top and the pump.

it was kind of awkward until I epoxyd it in there, I have noticed the bathmates have different valves, and each winevac stopper is different so its not a one size fits all thing... once you get the winevac working it is superior to the ball pump in my opinion.
 
How large is the handball on your extreme bra mine x30 is about 5½" long, and almost two inches at widest point. Also why didn't you just stretch the stopper over the part of hose which connects to the handball, and use like so?
 
not sure about the hand ball size they are probably the same or very close. Wine vac was annoying until I glued it in with epoxy because it would come off at some point no matter what and its annoying to keep adjusting. even the handball will fly off sometimes so I have to say the bathmate with the wine vac stopper glued in is the most powerful and easiest to use bathmate i have used. I still would not encourage people to do that though because you might ruin your bathmate.
 
How many more handball(after the ball would lock up) squeezes do you get with the wine before it clicks on ya?
 
i dont know what that means, but the wine vac will allow you to pump until the gaitor is fully compressed aka max pressure. the handball will not do that
 
templnite;681343 said:
How many more handball(after the ball would lock up) squeezes do you get with the wine before it clicks on ya?

DO you mean which gives the best vacuum?
 
acromegaly;681346 said:
i dont know what that means, but the wine vac will allow you to pump until the gaitor is fully compressed aka max pressure. the handball will not do that

You can pump the wine vac until you feel like your dick is going to explode...it's that powerful
 
doublelongdaddy;681378 said:
DO you mean which gives the best vacuum?

Yeah I think the wine has more power, but the handball is very handy when you need to draw out water. I could also draw liquit with the wine, but some of it is metal so I don't want it busting from rust. I'll need to learn exact air/water ratio to grab the best expansion. Right now I fill her to aprox. the eight inches mark, but in the future may need to fill less as I'm expanding more everyday
 
golferjohn;682518 said:
You can pump the wine vac until you feel like your dick is going to explode...it's that powerful

Wine vac mod alone makes me wanna use the BM multiple times a day. So easy, so powerful.
 
I have owned an air pump for a better part of 13-14 years (using it on and off, mostly off), but I've really started using it in the last year. Have I gained from it? I dont really know. I can't tell whether its the bundles I'm doing or the pumping or a combination of both. I do know that I now easily max out the 1.75" diameter tube (in girth), so I should be moving on too the 2" diameter tube next. I also almost pass the toilet paper roll test (my head and upper part of my shaft can still fit in, even if its a tight fit).
 
Yeah. I stopped bothering myself if this or that made me gain. I just know that hard work and a good routine will do wonders. I gotta do the toilet paper roll test as well. Been years since I've done it.
 
runningignus;683016 said:
Yeah. I stopped bothering myself if this or that made me gain. I just know that hard work and a good routine will do wonders. I gotta do the toilet paper roll test as well. Been years since I've done it.

The toilet paper roll test? I could fit two if I could get through one :) Another thing that may become a measurement in the future is when the cock drops into the toilet, kind of gross, but it proves gains. There are so many ways men measure it is crazy. I have measured myself against every phallic symbol in my house! :)
 
doublelongdaddy;683041 said:
The toilet paper roll test? I could fit two if I could get through one :) Another thing that may become a measurement in the future is when the cock drops into the toilet, kind of gross, but it proves gains. There are so many ways men measure it is crazy. I have measured myself against every phallic symbol in my house! :)

great way to get confidence!!:)
 
shortdick;683044 said:
great way to get confidence!!:)

The toilet paper roll will make every man feel thick, even before I started PE I tried to get into a roll erect and it ripped and I was only 4.75" in girth then.
 
acromegaly;681187 said:
most people doing it for 20+ years are doing it infrequently for fetish reasons, its probably only in the past 10-15 years people have realized the potential for creating real growth with pumping. I think pumps were popularized years ago for temporary expansion and erection quality. Only recently have forums like MOS and others shown that pumping can be a "workout" for your penis. plenty of huge dudes out there though

If you use the bathmate effectively, you won't use it up to 4 years before reaching your dream size. So indeed people using it up to 10 years only used it once in a while for sex.
 
huge-girth;758794 said:
If you use the bathmate effectively, you won't use it up to 4 years before reaching your dream size. So indeed people using it up to 10 years only used it once in a while for sex.

I am on the same side as Acro on this, air pumping was popular in the 1970's as a temporary way to enlarge the penis for sex. Since no other work was put in gains never stuck but men did not have the PE option at the time. PE started to become bigger in the early 2000's. We saw mainly exercise sites popping up and of course the Matters of Size Brotherhood. Soon the JES Extender was released for the incredible price of $1500.00, no jokes! Soon after this other devices popped up and fell off. I believe it was about 2003 when I struck a deal with VIMAX, the first extender we carried and this brought an affordable extender to all. VIMAX tried to screw us so we had to put them out of business. Then we took on FastSize and again they screwed us so we had to crush them too. Finally we made a great deal and a permeant partnership with SizeGenetics that still is in place today. Air pumps became more popular over the early days but only because they were being used in conjunction with other exercises, but the retention was a huge problem. The PowerAssist and LengthMaster happened over this time too. And soon we saw the BathMate. BathMate started off great but problem arose, and since we were partners with BathMate we worked with them to resolve all issues. Soon the pumps became incredible. The BathMate is the most successful pump ever because of it's effectiveness in the short and long term. Using methods we have created here teh BathMate + SSJ in the 5x5x3 scenario has delivered excellent, permanent gains across the board. After this is when we brought on Penomet, Phallosan and PeniMasterPro. Penomet kind of fizzled out, I really wish they continues their development but they never changed their system after I stopped working with them directly. The company was sold and the new owners no longer needed my help, I guess that is why they are no where today. The Phallosan was a no seller for a long time until SRT showed just how effective the Phallosan was is every situation. The PeniMasterPro, much like the Phallosan and SizeGenetics combined, is a sleeper right now but I suspect that once some proper reviews are done their device will take the spotlight but we shall see.
 
doublelongdaddy;758802 said:
I am on the same side as Acro on this, air pumping was popular in the 1970's as a temporary way to enlarge the penis for sex. Since no other work was put in gains never stuck but men did not have the PE option at the time. PE started to become bigger in the early 2000's. We saw mainly exercise sites popping up and of course the Matters of Size Brotherhood. Soon the JES Extender was released for the incredible price of $1500.00, no jokes! Soon after this other devices popped up and fell off. I believe it was about 2003 when I struck a deal with VIMAX, the first extender we carried and this brought an affordable extender to all. VIMAX tried to screw us so we had to put them out of business. Then we took on FastSize and again they screwed us so we had to crush them too. Finally we made a great deal and a permeant partnership with SizeGenetics that still is in place today. Air pumps became more popular over the early days but only because they were being used in conjunction with other exercises, but the retention was a huge problem. The PowerAssist and LengthMaster happened over this time too. And soon we saw the BathMate. BathMate started off great but problem arose, and since we were partners with BathMate we worked with them to resolve all issues. Soon the pumps became incredible. The BathMate is the most successful pump ever because of it's effectiveness in the short and long term. Using methods we have created here teh BathMate + SSJ in the 5x5x3 scenario has delivered excellent, permanent gains across the board. After this is when we brought on Penomet, Phallosan and PeniMasterPro. Penomet kind of fizzled out, I really wish they continues their development but they never changed their system after I stopped working with them directly. The company was sold and the new owners no longer needed my help, I guess that is why they are no where today. The Phallosan was a no seller for a long time until SRT showed just how effective the Phallosan was is every situation. The PeniMasterPro, much like the Phallosan and SizeGenetics combined, is a sleeper right now but I suspect that once some proper reviews are done their device will take the spotlight but we shall see.

This is a well detailed explanation of how far PE has come. The Penilmasterpro is going to make a huge impact here very soon.
 
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