Okay, first I want everyone to know im not gay or bi, but this is really starting to get to me.

First of all, there is no fucking way the average size is actually 5.5 inches. Not in the u.s. anyways. This is fucking bullshit. I'm at a party last weekend, and we're all chillin kickin it, drinkin a lil bit. So anyways, theres about 6 guys there including me, and about 10 girls, including my girlfriend. Well anyways, they start tryin to get freaky with chicks, and they all start bragging about their big dicks. I'm just sitting there thinkin, maybe just one or two of em, not all of em can have huge dicks. Boy was I wrong. Some dude i was sitting at the table with pulls his cock out (no joke) and sets it on the table. The dude is fucking 6 1/2 inches limp, and he says hard its 9. I'm thinking, holy fucking shit. Sure enough, some girl we were with confirmed that, she measured it. 2 other guys started braggin that although their cocks werent quite that big, they were still huge. I'm thinkin, no fucking way, not both of them. Sure enough, some girl measures em at the party, both of em just a little bigger then 8 inches. 1 of the other guys there were fucking 8 inches smack on. The other dudes were right around 7 3/4s. (All white boys) No, im not gay, but WHAT IN THE BLUE FUCK IS GOING ON? I asked em all if they knew what P.E. was, and jelqing etc or if they hung weights and shit. NOT ONE OF THEM. These are all my good friends too, so I know they wouldnt lie. I'm 5.5, right on the nose. 5.5 in girth too. Well this has been going on a little while, its not the first time this shit has happened. My brother is fucking 7 inches. His 2 best friends are around 7 1/2 - 8. (I havent seen em, but my best friend, yes it was a girl, has, and I know she wouldnt lie to me) One of my old friends thought it would be funny to show me his cock on webcam. He had a ruler pressed against it when he turned it on, I didnt know he was going to show me that. Fucking 8 inches. I've also had other peoples girls or my girlfriends tell me shit too about other guys... NONE of these guys P.E. I know this for a fact. Most of em have told me shit that would be much worse then me knowing they p.e, so I know they would tell me if they did. WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON? I've had girls tell me they havent had sex with anyone under 7 inches before, and they havent even really had a guy try to get with them that was smaller then that... Is it just me? Honestly, I feel like im the only small guy around... Wow. This is fucking bullshit. I hate this shit, its not fair.

I mean, fucking hell, look at most of you guys. The majority of you didnt start smaller then 6 - 6.5 inches, and most of you are hung as fuck. I think the average size has to be around 6.5 at least, (in the usa anyways) because this is fucking bullshit.
 
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I'm 7.5x5.5 and smaller than all my girlfriends ex's.
I'm with you man. I believe the average size is bigger than they say in surveys.
 
I thought average was 6.3 inches. However, I'm thinking that this mmust be a very unfortunate series of events purely because I know for a fact that people here may be hung, but most of that is due to Penis Enlargement. Several people at these forums started off with 5 or 5.5" dicks. Either your mates are lucky or the women are lying (which is quite possible). His 6 1/2 inches limp could well have been a semi-erection, mine measures over 6.

Also I can't really picture a woman pulling out a ruler before she shags a bloke so it may well have just been their estimation, which, as we have discussed here before, is quite often well over what the real measurement is.

Don't worry. Most men here feel insecure with their size even if they are huge. Keep Pe'ing and its quite possible you could catch up with your friends. Samzman on this forum started at 5.5" and (quite an inspiration) grew to just under 9.5".
 
Dude, I saw the ruler pressed against their dicks. Everyone was drunk so it was like w/e. I saw em myself... And none of em were from pe... This is fucking bullshit you guys, I HATE my small size lol....

Today im going to the bank to see if I can get a loan. I'm seriously considering surgery. <:(
 
Sonar, there are lots of men with really big dicks. They're the ones who whip it out at parties. They're proud of it. All the rest of us tend to keep it in our pants. I don't think the average is any more than 6 inches, tho.

I worked as an orderly for around six years. I was a male nurse's assistant so I tended to take care of male patients. I can assure you that most men are just modestly hung. In six years, I saw maybe two guys with impressive schlongs, and just one who made me think, Holy Shit! I had to assist an older white man with a shower and it was like a frickin' elephant's trunk. Probably close to 7 inches FLACCID, no joke.

I know where you're coming from, tho. I come from a family of pretty big guys. My brothers are both big, 7 inchers, my uncles, too. I have some cousins who are bigger than that. At 5 inches, I always felt a little insecure about myself. Probably the main reason I'm here.

Don't even think about surgery, tho. Penis Enlargement works. It doesn't cost anything, and if you learn how to do it right, you can gain pretty steadily. I have gone from around 5.5" to a little over 7 inches in a little over a year.

Surgery is painful, and can actually make your penis smaller if there are complications. Even if the surgery is successful, you still have to do Penis Enlargement exercises to keep the snipped ligs from scarring and drawing the penis up shorter than before!!!
 
Another thing to consider is just because men may seem ignorant to Penis Enlargement does not mean they do not practice it.
 
also, did the girls measure them right? Cuz they could of measured hardcore Bone press, just to give them that extra something. But who knows
 
Well, I really want to do this normal pe just because it will aslo help out with the heath of my penis and what not, plus a great hobby. I was approved for a loan today (HOLY SHIT I HAVE NICE CREDIT TOO!!!) for $9500, but she said they could have gone as high as $12,000. I am going to seriously make this NPenis Enlargement work... I have to. Thanks for all the support guys, my life has really sucked until these last 2 days. I am getting clean of drugs and sobering up over the past few weeks so its kinda been hell, and all the fighting and arguing with my gf... Its really made me have a hard time even getting a damn erection. Today is the best day of my life, i decided instead of surgery, im going to get myself a nice car. I am really looking at this 98 eclipse RS for $4900 at the dealership, which also gives me plently of money for all the sexy extras, rims, nice system, cold air intake, new dual straight pipe racing exaust ect... its already got a turbo charger in there, im so excited. Today is one of the best days of my life now, im getting my first real car. (that wasnt stolen or illegal in some way, and wasnt a POS!) i have only had real bad $300 peices of shit, so im really excited to get this. They even got my payments down to like $120 a month to the bank, so stuff is really starting to work out for me. Yesterday was an awsome day too, i found out im going on vacation, and its in montana, but its about 30 miles from the border of canada. Gonna go boating, (water skiing, wakeboarding) jet skiing, dirt biking, ride atvs, and tons of fun shit. Then hit the bars in canada and have the time of my life. So its time to fuckin party!!! I want drive the eclipse up there, so we'll see what happens. But yeah, my day has totally turned around. Thanks for the support guys.

Kong, i also wanted to ask you... I have never had this experience myself, but, you were starting the same size as i am now, have u ever had a girl actually really complain BAD or make fun of u, or not want to have sex with you ONLY because of your size? (so before she had sex with u, when she was looking at it) Are there any other guys that have had this happen to them? Because really, i suddenly dont care about my size as much, and i know im good as it is, so if they complain about size, fuckin o well just let me fuck u and you'll see!

Sorry this post is so long guys, im just so excited today lol you dont even know. These kinds of things make it worth getting up in the morning and starting my day and goin to work, instead of me bein a lazy ass like i have been and sleeping till 1 pm and not going to bed till 4 or 5 am. Plus i dont even work rite now, (but i have a way to pay my car and insurance taken care of, workin for my grandpa) but yeah well thanks for reading and takin ur time to make me feel a lil bit better today. I was really actually considering surgery, i called my brothers doctor that did all his work when he had cancer and they were kinda puttin him back together... and he said we can schedule an apt for you to come in and see me. Thanks for changing my mind guys that could have really really fucked me up. Have a nice day guys. lol.
 
It makes me rethink what i want my size to be. I dont need to be the biggest thing most girls have ever seen, and i dont want a freakishly huge thing, but Ide like to pack more than "most" other guys have. I was pretty proud when i hit 7", i dont know if thats worth bragging about anymore? ?:( <:(
 
yea bro- I think you made a good point. I wonder about all the studies on average size....most men I have asked are at least 6 to 6.5 inches long..

Then again...do you know if the girls did NBP or BP measurements? That could add some...

Also - you got 5.5 girth - youre set - almost all women want girth, not length - so you got more than enuff there for 99% of all women. (Provided youre a skilled lover - which applies for ALL men.)
 
I never had any women complain about my size before Penis Enlargement. No bad experiences I can recall. Every woman I ever had sex with seemed to like my dick. Yeah, it was maybe a hair under six inches long, but I have always had thick girth (around 6") and they liked the curve and the fat head.

The worst I ever got was "Hmmm, it seems about average to me." It made me feel bad-- but it was the truth, I guess. Teach me to ask The Question, especially with that girl, cause I know she did it with my cousin and he's hung like a frickin horse [yes, I saw it...long story short, it was a threesome... ;) I'm a freak, sorta]

I started Penis Enlargement mainly because I asked my wife if I was the biggest she ever had and she said nope. It's okay, tho, cause I'm the biggest now.

PS-- about the girl measuring thing. I bet she measured from the side, which will add some length. I doubt if she measured top center like you're supposed to. Advice: subtract 1 inch from any measurements a woman quotes you! ;)
 
I hear you sonar, but size isn't all that you think it is. Sure there are size queens, but the people that care about dick size the most is usally the person attached to it. Most females don't set out to find the biggest dick in the crowd if they are looking to hook up. They want a guy that's fun and only decently looking, if they are horny enough. :)

Save your money. You never know what could go wrong with surgery and through Penis Enlargement you'll have more confidence knowing that you made it happen with your hard work. It takes discipline.

Yea I bet that those girls didn't get measured from the top of the dick.
 
I know what you mean and sometimes at the bar since I get curious at the stalls when I drink somehow lol. Most peoples flaccid is pretty huge, so I dont know what to say. I believe the average is about 6.5.
 
ive had enough of this is my dick to small shit its totally pathetic .be a fucking man your dick is your dick like it or not dont pe for some girl cause she said she had bigger do it for yourself .and if she does say that the worst thing you can do is let them know it bothers you cause then they will have you buy the balls and use it against ya . your not a girl you have the dick if she dont like it tell her to get the fuck out theirs plenty off them .before i started pe ive never had a complaint never had to worry about it cause i dont really give a fuck if they think my dick is smaller than their ex's cause they aint with em now i am. and im fucking the pussy you want a bigger dick then leave ill fond one that doesnt have as big an ass or one that has bigger tits or one that just actually likes me for who i am bottom line this wining about what women think about how big we are is redickulus .pe for yourself make youself feel better have more confidence .speaking of confidence thats the best thing you can have imho girls can smell someone who is weak a mile away and you wont get anywhere and instead of getting to know her or taking her home and getting some youll be here whining to other guys if they think you dick is big enough to have sex with .
lets stop with all the doubting and get some pussy . thats all i have to say about that
thank you for the rant and rave
 
guys guys guys.....i have played alot of footy.. with lots and lots of teams... and showerd with all the fellas.. and i think 1 out of 6 would have a bigger cock than 6 inches....

Granted if have never seen them on a hard on, though you can tell from flaccid... i 6" bp and my cock is as big as theres flaccid and im only 5'6" - 5'7" tall and these felllas are all about 6ft.

they are all taller than me and have the same size cock as me more or less.... i think the average is 5.8 -6".

i was at a freaky bullshit party the other night... 6 blokes... 5 girls.... at the end of the night.. all blokes but me took there pants off trying to show off... i nearly laughed as they had nothing to brag about but they thought they did.

i rekon they were under 6 inches (if there were hard), anothing above 6" in my experience is above average.

the guys that i have seen with reasonable size dicks are about 5'10 and solid that stand out compared to all others..

anyway, im going for 7" so no matter what ill be a big boy.
 
hey sonar, i'm gay and have seen a lot of dicks in my time...i think you just came across a group of big guys who happened to hang out with each other...i'll explain

based on my EXTENSIVE experience, the average is probably around 6 inches, but were talking the population in general...get together a group of cocky, confident guys and they're probably cocky and confident for a reason. Kong is right, most guys with big dicks know it and like to show them off. You happened to stumble on a group of them. Also my experience is that healthy, confident, athletic guys tend to have bigger dicks - not necessarily HUGE, but bigger in general

growing up i was on the swim team and have never seen such a concentration of big dicks in my life...in fact, when i started screwing around with guys i was startled to find out how many average-sized dicks were out there. These guys spoiled me for the rest of my life. On the high school team i knew at least 5 kids that were 10 inches or bigger, and one of them was easily 12. No joke. And about 10 other guys who were big enough to compete with your friends at that party. When i got to college there was one guy with a possible 10 incher, and about 8 other guys that were definately way bigger than average.

Another thing i've noticed is that big-dicked guys, staight or gay, gravitate towards one another. The gay thing is obvious, but with staight guys I think it's that they have similar attitudes, and none of them are a threat to each other. I knew these four guys at a restaurant i worked at, and they were all close to 8 or bigger. They weren't like four best-friends, but they all got along really well. The other guys at work were either jealous or completely in awe of these studs because they had it so easy with the girls.

I remember this one bartender, who was good-looking, great body and had a really smooth game. He put a lot of effort into getting a girl, and got his fair share of pussy. But he was always one-upped by this kid who was 19 and scrawny. This kid always got more girls, got hotter girls and ALWAYS had them coming back for more. And it drove the bartender nuts...what he didn't know was that this scrawny kid had a massively thick 8-incher. And the guys the weren't jealous of the scrawny kid were clingy with him because he was always so good with the ladies. So when he would go out, he would go out with the guys who were also hung because they weren't jealous and they weren't clingy. Makes sense right? Just my observation.
 
guys guys...calm down. You have to ask yourself some obvious questions. Realistically would you show you penis in public if you were under average? Its obvious that the people that are larger will do it. Tests have been run over and over on the average penis size. If 5 guys all drop their pants at a party to show off to the girls you better believe they are probably over 7 inches otherwise chances are they might not do it. The Probability of all those guys being really big is small....BUT its not impossible. Just like how some of us have been to party's where any given 5 guys could have been under 5 inches in length, but we just dont know it.
 
There's a lot of truth in these posts. I didn't become a braggart until I discovered I was huge. I didn't know I was huge until 20 months ago when I started Penis Enlargement and joined a forum. Maybe all my insecurities surfaced at that time. I don't know. Many of the big-dicked braggarts out there are going to make sure others know about it, one way or another.

But the bottom line is I practice Penis Enlargement for one person, me. This is the same reason I work out on the rest of my body every day. It's all I got to work with.

Long live Penis Enlargement!!!! Whooohoooooo!!
 
interesting post SLimhung, but I dont know how accurate it is that having a bick dick increases the chance you get women....I've seen a few homeless men with huge dicks and they dont get any pussy for example. Then there are tons of guys with big dicks but no other skills....they dont get pussy either, and then I know quite a few good looking guys who are either too shy, or lack lady skills and dont get much pussy at all.

If big dicks predicted sexual success, we'd all have big dicks...evolution is a fact not a theory! lol

slimhung said:
hey sonar, i'm gay and have seen a lot of dicks in my time...i think you just came across a group of big guys who happened to hang out with each other...i'll explain

based on my EXTENSIVE experience, the average is probably around 6 inches, but were talking the population in general...get together a group of cocky, confident guys and they're probably cocky and confident for a reason. Kong is right, most guys with big dicks know it and like to show them off. You happened to stumble on a group of them. Also my experience is that healthy, confident, athletic guys tend to have bigger dicks - not necessarily HUGE, but bigger in general

growing up i was on the swim team and have never seen such a concentration of big dicks in my life...in fact, when i started screwing around with guys i was startled to find out how many average-sized dicks were out there. These guys spoiled me for the rest of my life. On the high school team i knew at least 5 kids that were 10 inches or bigger, and one of them was easily 12. No joke. And about 10 other guys who were big enough to compete with your friends at that party. When i got to college there was one guy with a possible 10 incher, and about 8 other guys that were definately way bigger than average.

Another thing i've noticed is that big-dicked guys, staight or gay, gravitate towards one another. The gay thing is obvious, but with staight guys I think it's that they have similar attitudes, and none of them are a threat to each other. I knew these four guys at a restaurant i worked at, and they were all close to 8 or bigger. They weren't like four best-friends, but they all got along really well. The other guys at work were either jealous or completely in awe of these studs because they had it so easy with the girls.

I remember this one bartender, who was good-looking, great body and had a really smooth game. He put a lot of effort into getting a girl, and got his fair share of pussy. But he was always one-upped by this kid who was 19 and scrawny. This kid always got more girls, got hotter girls and ALWAYS had them coming back for more. And it drove the bartender nuts...what he didn't know was that this scrawny kid had a massively thick 8-incher. And the guys the weren't jealous of the scrawny kid were clingy with him because he was always so good with the ladies. So when he would go out, he would go out with the guys who were also hung because they weren't jealous and they weren't clingy. Makes sense right? Just my observation.
 
What about flashers, do they have bigger dicks than? I dont think so.
Alot of this is CONFIDENCE, with that you'll pretty much do anything you want.
I've seen many ugly hairy arses over the years flashed by ugly tarts, they do it because they are confident. I do think though that you have a point, and I can understand where your comming from....a small dicked man would you would think be shy to show his willy, well maybe thats true? I dont think it is...to me its CONFIDENCE...if you have it, and wonna show it than its gunna be shown.
 
"Good with the ladies" has nothing to do with dick size, unless you're talking about size queen ladies. A big dick doesn't hurt, if you'll excuse the expression, but I observe my students in their late teens, twenties, and thirties. The girls respond to the guys who are smooth talkers and who make them laugh. When or if they get them in bed, then a big dick thrown in to boot completes the equation.
 
I really don't want to insult the guy who started this topic, that's not my intention, but affter reading other posts from him - i get the feeling this story is exagerated.

Dick length is just one of those things in life that its just instinctual to exagerate

Affter seeing the survays, many Penis Enlargement forums, and my own life experiences, i would estimate about 5.9 x 5 to be average.

My two cents
 
Trust me guys I've had it both ways.....having a partner that would sometimes joke about my "small" dick (at that point 7 " x 5" ) and having a bigger dick (8.5" x 5.5") and getting no pussy.....the latter is much worse on me. WIth having the jarring girlfriend...I would once in a while find myself wishing I were bigger....searching for Penis Enlargement. But now I spend my days really with nothing on my mind but getting pussy. Sometimes you gotta step back and be thankful for what you got....as shitty as it may seem at the time.
 
mate i've pulled my dick out at parties to reveal a big one but i would never tell anyone that i pe-ed to make it big that's for sure, trust the average size is 5-6 inches if you don't believe me or anyone on the forum go ask a penile doctor he will set you straight he would have seen plenty of cocks in his time or go to a brothel a ask the oldest skummiest worker bitch you can find and she'll tell you the truth
 
Dude 5.5 starting girth is fucking great. Starting at 4.25ish I would kill a man for 5.5 girth... Trust me you have nothing to be sad about 8/10 girls prefer girth over length and you have well over average. Be thankful :)
 
That sounds like a pretty traumatic experience.

What were the girls' reactions when those dudes whipped it out? Was your girlfriend all interested and shit? That would be fucked up, man.

I doubt they do Penis Enlargement. You guys have to accept that there are big dicks out there in the world, and not every big guy does Penis Enlargement. Stop lying to yourselves. You shouldn't care anyway. Just worry about making your own dick bigger and forget what everyone else has. You'll only drive yourself crazy.

Also, who cares what the average dick size is? Why does everyone start quoting average dick sizes whenever they see someone who's bigger? Obviously it doesn't matter what the average is when you're staring at someone who's an exception to the rule. It's like some kind of false security or something. Let it go.

You guys care too much... it'll destroy you if you keep it up.
 
well guys this is my take. 6 inches or 10 doesn't really matter if you can't use it to please her and do it well. and I am starting to agree more and more with red on the girth issues. I think girth is more pleasing to a chick than length. But sonar I am with ya bro on the size thing. for a long time I thought I had to be the smallest guy in town.
 
pumaz said:
I also know that as a 6'1" American there aren't a ton of other guys who are taller then me, maybe 1 in 15.[/url]

I am EXACTLY 6 feet tall (NBP and not exagerated or rounded), and I am taller than all of my friends and most of the people I know. I have been places in crowds where there are few people taller. If I go to a baseball game or graduation (or some other place with a few thousand people) I am usually taller than almost every guy I walk past. There are probably quite a few around my same height but not many taller and very few noticably taller. I would say the average range where 90% of guys fall is 5'7- 6'1. Of my 5 best friends, 1 is about my height. The rest are 5'11, 5'9 1/2", 5'9, and 5'7 1/2". My best guess at mean/median average is about 5'10".

As for a group of guys whipping it out and all being 8" or whatever. Well, do you remember this group of guys?: Howard Stern, Fred, Jackie, Baba-Booey. On the Howard stern E! Show they had a measuring kit and a lady to help them get aroused. They all measured. They were all between 5 1/4" ( jackie) and 6 1/2" ( Fred). Howard was 6" and Baba-booey about 5 5/8". Now IMO that is probably a more typical goup of guys and measurements than the 8"+ Party Animals. ( I'll give the OP the benefit of the doubt, but I dont think I would ever witness a staright party where a handful of guys whipped it out and were measured. I would doubt both the willingness of so many guys as well as a willing female measurer, but hey I guess anythings possible).

As far as Hung Homeless Guys- didnt you hear, Monstersofcock hired them all.
 
I betcha the chics at hte party were measuring from the side of the penis and not the top. If I measure from the side I gain about an inch, at least.
 
recreation_man;359812 said:
And, what is the chance that these men are good people?


Most men are pieces of shit.:) Over the past decade, through the help of so many men I have met and learned from, I have learned to be a good, honorable man.
 
I didn't start to grow up until I was in my 40's. Until then, I was a real asshole. I still find it hard to believe my wife (of 44 years) has put up with me this long.

When I brag to her about my big dick, she looks at me like I'm crazy. :P :s

"Crazy After All These Years!" rofl
 
Ya Recreation Man hit the nail on the head... What the original thread poster saw was just a filtered version of reality, filtered by his insecurities.. All the people who understand the mental aspect of life will tell you. You will experience life within your beliefs, so it looks like until you change you mind frame you will always think you see bigger cocks then yours.. Me im not gonna do that to myself, im gonna belive my dick is huge, and thats the reality thats going to come to me.. Bottom line.
 
One thing about the original poster, he never stated if they were flacid or completely erect. Isn't that where the difference between "shower's" and "grower's" come in? When I'm flacid, I'm about 3-3.5 long. I would never whip it out in public. My wife and I were at a swingers party and one woman said about my penis, "It feels sooo thick". Another woman looked at me and said "Let me get you one of the 'bigger' condomns!". I thought I looked about the same as the 3 other guys in the room. My wife said I was way thicker and longer than everyone in the room and everyone we've ever come across, for that matter. I'm 7 3/4" BPenis EnlargementL and 5 3/4" EG. It just goes to show what your personal perspective is. If you think you have a big cock, you'll exude more confidence which will attract more women. If you have a small cock but think you have a big one, you'll exude more confidence. It seems to me, the guy that started this post was at a party with 'his' girl, everybody else was there as sinlges.

Everything is all relative to personal perspective, including penis size.
 
I would like to add something to that.

My size erect is exactly 7".that is about average, nothing special.
From my own experience, most women I've been with noticed that I was their biggest, witch always surprised me because I know some of the guys some of these girl used to date and with some just know I actually wasn't their biggest.

Now of course you'd say "Then they were just trying to make you feel goof about yourself" but the thing is, never brought the subject up before they did.

So my point is actually something i'd like to ad to the poster above me. I think it has allot to do with confidence. The other day when I was at my parents house, I walked out of the shower, pasted by my brother on the way to the bedroom. Now, later that day he came up to me and noted that he was jealous of me being much bigger than he is. But guess what? I know for a fact that he's no smaller then I am. It's just in his head.

As it is in mine. Earlier today I posted a thread about erection problem I've been having for the past six to twelve months.

DLD noted that it probably a mental thing, and I could not agree more. I've been playing around with my dick twice today, thats how pre-occupied I am with this.

The first time I was so obsessing over the fact that I could not keep and erection I started to observe my penis and I thought it was rather small, especially its girth, though at the time it was fully erect and hard. But later I got aroused by accident. I pull out my dick, again fully erect and it seemed so much bigger and longer.

So to get my point across. A great deal of how big your dick seems is the way YOU look at it I guess. Even before I had EP and knew about Penis Enlargement I would sometimes surprised by my own size and sometimes disappointed. I'd measure but there was no difference at all. It was all in my head, and it might also be in yours...
 
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doublelongdaddy;359892 said:
Most men are pieces of shit.:) Over the past decade, through the help of so many men I have met and learned from, I have learned to be a good, honorable man.

Amen !
And if anyone has any doubts about it... just take a look around, brother.
Just take a look around.
 
damn, this kinda killed my positive view on my dick. i mean, most girls tell me i'm big, but i'm only 7" when i measure from the side (i put the ruler even with the base of my dick..i thought that was supposed to be the most accurate measure lol). guess i need to remeasure
 
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