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I've started dieting after reading enough information on this forum. I want to be taking coffee in the morning after my breakfast and I also intend skipping lunch some times if coffee can reduce my appetite. My question is, does coffee reduce my food craving?
 
Caffeine in general will. Pure caffeine pills are the best way to go. No extra calories and very inexpensive. Usually around $4 for a bottle of 80, 200mg pills. I suggest splitting them with a pill cutter.
 
replace all your bad foods with good foods like fruits and dry fruitsa and liquids
brother you need a nutritionist if your gonna get into so much details..............the changes you have to make are in your mind......all you have to think is
GOOD WORKOUT
NO SHITTY FOOD
GOOD DIET
GOOD SLEEP

and you will be there before you know it........
 
I'm already dieting pogzee. The coffee I bought contains milk and sugar so I had to return it. Thanks for the advice acromegaly. Stillwantsmore should I buy just caffeine pills or I should buy coffee that doesn't have milk and sugar in it? When I'm making my oatmeal, the Dano milk I bought yesterday contains some sugar will it be bad for weight loss? Should I dispose the milk since it contains sugar?
 
huge-girth;644031 said:
I'm already dieting pogzee. The coffee I bought contains milk and sugar so I had to return it. Thanks for the advice acromegaly. Stillwantsmore should I buy just caffeine pills or I should buy coffee that doesn't have milk and sugar in it? When I'm making my oatmeal, the Dano milk I bought yesterday contains some sugar will it be bad for weight loss? Should I dispose the milk since it contains sugar?

i agree sugar is bad for weight loss.....but if you totally quit it your body gets usedto without it.....i realized i quit drinking milk and when i did after months then i realized my body doesn accept it....leading to lactose intolerancey........so some amount of sugar should be taken...dont completely cut all the things out....have but little quanitty in a day
 
caffeine is a stimulant, so yes it will suppress appetite depending on dose. It also is a thermogenic, meaning it burns calories. however, people rarely use it alone for this reason and if they do, the doses are high.

As for sugar, dont just get rid of things because they contain sugar. sugar isn't inherently bad. all carbohydrates are sugars. milk is fine to have, no reason to cut it out unless you consume copious amounts.

get your nutrition on point and worry about the little things after
 
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The thing about dieting and loosing weight for me is really all about cardio exercise and eating frequent small, healthy meals through the day.
 
pogzee;644024 said:
replace all your bad foods with good foods like fruits and dry fruitsa and liquids
brother you need a nutritionist if your gonna get into so much details..............the changes you have to make are in your mind......all you have to think is
GOOD WORKOUT
NO SHITTY FOOD
GOOD DIET
GOOD SLEEP

and you will be there before you know it........

I'm eating well now and jogging for 30 minutes every morning. I eat twice daily, morning and evening.
 
pogzee;644059 said:
i agree sugar is bad for weight loss.....but if you totally quit it your body gets usedto without it.....i realized i quit drinking milk and when i did after months then i realized my body doesn accept it....leading to lactose intolerancey........so some amount of sugar should be taken...dont completely cut all the things out....have but little quanitty in a day

I agree with you but I will be careful with it.

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jordey;644060 said:
caffeine is a stimulant, so yes it will suppress appetite depending on dose. It also is a thermogenic, meaning it burns calories. however, people rarely use it alone for this reason and if they do, the doses are high.

As for sugar, dont just get rid of things because they contain sugar. dugar isn't inherently bad. all carbohydrates are sugars. milk is fine to have, no reason to cut it out unless you consume copious amounts.

get your nutrition on point and worry about the little things after

I totally agree with you.
 
doublelongdaddy;644153 said:
The thing about dieting and loosing weight for me is really all about cardio exercise and eating frequent small, healthy meals through the day.

I'm eating well, jogging for 30 minutes every morning but I'm eating twice daily and all shitty foods has been removed from my food time table.
 
huge-girth;644193 said:
I'm eating well, jogging for 30 minutes every morning but I'm eating twice daily and all shitty foods has been removed from my food time table.

im not too sure how knowledgeable you are about training and nutrition, but for most beginners regardless of goal my main advice is to just change what you're doing.

it looks like you have changed your lifestyle, with the added exercise and calorie restriction, which is great and should be good enough on its own to shift pounds. i dont think you really have to worry about using caffeine and/ or other thermogenics unless you want to gt to very low bodyfat, or you just need a little extra energy.
 
jordey;644204 said:
im not too sure how knowledgeable you are about training and nutrition, but for most beginners regardless of goal my main advice is to just change what you're doing.

it looks like you have changed your lifestyle, with the added exercise and calorie restriction, which is great and should be good enough on its own to shift pounds. i dont think you really have to worry about using caffeine and/ or other thermogenics unless you want to gt to very low bodyfat, or you just need a little extra energy.

I am not longer interested in taking the coffee. I will just stick to cardio and my new life style.
 
huge-girth;644190 said:
I'm eating well now and jogging for 30 minutes every morning. I eat twice daily, morning and evening.

you need to eat smaller meals and fequently......have atleast 6 small meals a day.....
 
I miss the days of being able to legally by OTC Ephedrine. Sigh. Ephedrine+caffiene+Aspirin aka the "ECA Stack" was just about the best combo for fat burning. Of course, you can still legally buy everything, you just have to import the Ephedrine.
 
stillwantmore2;644275 said:
I miss the days of being able to legally by OTC Ephedrine. Sigh. Ephedrine+caffiene+Aspirin aka the "ECA Stack" was just about the best combo for fat burning. Of course, you can still legally buy everything, you just have to import the Ephedrine.

Well, I'm sticking to dieting and cardio exercises for now.
 
huge-girth;644193 said:
I'm eating well, jogging for 30 minutes every morning but I'm eating twice daily and all shitty foods has been removed from my food time table.

I would try to get the meals up to 4 times a day, small meals, just to keep your metabolism up.
 
pogzee;644859 said:
eat looooads of fibre

The more fiber the more full we feel. You can even buy fiber capsules that expand when they are in the stomach that will make you feel full.
 
doublelongdaddy;644954 said:
The more fiber the more full we feel. You can even buy fiber capsules that expand when they are in the stomach that will make you feel full.

the more fibre he eats...the more full he wil feel and the lesser food or bad food he willl eat ....hehe
 
pogzee;645036 said:
the more fibre he eats...the more full he wil feel and the lesser food or bad food he willl eat ....hehe

Yup, that is how it works. I did it with the expanding fiber pills, about 15 minutes after taking them you feel completely full.
 
Thanks for the suggestion girthgains. Dld can you please recall the name of the fiber pill?
 
google foods high in fibre and you will get your answer.....
also google foods and things that cut fat of body....try SUPERFOODS instead of foods
 
pogzee;645260 said:
google foods high in fibre and you will get your answer.....
also google foods and things that cut fat of body....try SUPERFOODS instead of foods

Alright, thanks.
 
huge-girth;645216 said:
Thanks for the suggestion girthgains. Dld can you please recall the name of the fiber pill?

I am pretty sure it is called: Equate Fiber Supplement. They are available at any drug store.
 
You can try vitamin water or v8 juice. my guess is vegtable jucie works better.it would be even better if you blend up fresh vegatables.fruits are important as well. Suppose eat fruits before meals on a empty stomach.For fuirt juice drink it slow so to try to mix the salava with juice.If you can get the vitamins and minerals in your body that it needs. Then you will be Fuller faster and wont have to eat as much. That's why a lot of people can eat and eat. Because they are eating junk or only certain foods. The body isn't getting all the nutrients it needs so it stores the food and still tells the body its hungry because its missing something that the body needs.
 
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you can make your own protein shakes too (couple raw eggs, natural peanut butter, milk, cinnamon, banana, spinach, you can try all kinds of stuff) and its wayyyy healthier than the protien that comes in jars.
if you are aiming to get fit you need lots of healthy protein and veggies!
 
This is my take on dieting:

What ever you do. You should see yourself do this for 10 years everyday!

Example.

Intermittent fasting.
Eat every other day.
Can you do that for 10 years. Then nope dont do it.

Stop eating 10$ of candy every night? Should be possible.

Alright do it.

Now understand this concept. Dont jump out and do extreme stuff. As you will bounce right back to your current situation.

Understand and appreciate this concept.

You dont want to lose weight for a yearm you want to lose weight for life... Right?

Second rule:

Only change 1 thing every 3 weeks.

Your brain is designed so that it will take approximately 21 days to build a neurologic pattern (read about pavels dog)

After you have changed 1 thing for 3 weeks. It is now part of your daily pattern.

It could be you waking up early for a cardio or a daily protein shake.

Doesn't matter.

But changing 100 things will stop the brain from forming these patterns fast. And resulting in failure.

Third rule.

Keep logs!

Always keep logs. Logs is what makes you know where you have been and where you are moving.

Explain experiences. Good and bad. Recipes. How you feel etc. This is also a great place to look back to for motivation.

So these 3 are my basic rules for dieting (they work for other stuff aswell)

Now the more practically stuff what to actually do.

This is what i give people who is defined as obese. And who really needs to get this thing going.

Every thing has to be done like a machine for 3 weeks before next step is applied.
First step

Every morning.

Take a warm glass of water with honey and lime/lemon juice.

This cleans up the system. Makes your body feel easier with the new diet. Makes intake of nutrition work better etc.

Most people drop 2 kgs the first week just from this. But it is not fat. It is all the build up shit in your intestines. (How gross is that?)

Step 2.
First thing before anything else. Start the day with a tabata. (Google it if you may)
Now we are starting on the training and this is a hard sted. Not the doing itm but the waking up. It takes discipline to wake up in the morning.

My experience is this.

People who just kind of want it. Gives up here.

People who really want it will get past these 3 weeks and as the first 3 weeks seems like suspension. They actually enjoy it.

The reason for the tabata is that it gets your entire body going. While it gets your heartrate through the roof.

For the rest of the waking ours you will have the after burn effect that just kills kilos

3 kilos a week is not uncommon in the beginning of this.

Third step.

Drink a big glass of ice cold water before every meal.

This makes your stomach shrink and basicly you will eat less.

The kilos keep coming of at this point but the "wauw" effect of huge amount of fat is gone. You cannot keep dropping kilos like snoop is smoking bongs.

Fourth step:
Increase the amount of meat/protein.

Yep ly fourth step in a weightloss plan is to actually start eating more.

The reason for this is that protein helps your body burn fat. And it makes you feal filled up after a meal. And it doesnt spike your sugar levels (which results in sugar crawings)


Fifth step.
Pick one!
Stop eating:
Sugar. This includes strachy carbs!
Flour.
Salt.
Milk.


I would advise people to pick sugar. As that will give the fastest results. But the next 3 steps will be the other 3 of them.

Now at this point we have increased the amount of water. Protein. High intensity training.

And removed carbs and other stuff filling up your system.

Maintain this until results have been reached.

Now start giving in on the stuff. 1 at the time.

3 weeks of you eating strachy carbs and sugar again.. What happens?
Nothing? Cool keep eating it.
Heahaches. Bad mood weight gain?
Stop it again.

Basicly get to know your weak points and strenghts.

For me. If i avoid salt and milk i drop weight like im on the anorexia diet while doing blow.

Carbs is good and bad. I use them for weight gaining. But actually i prefer the energi i get from veggies as it is a more lean energy that i can work with for more hours without replenishing it

Well. This is prob my basic version
 
Aimingforthetop;645422 said:
This is my take on dieting:

What ever you do. You should see yourself do this for 10 years everyday!

Example.

Intermittent fasting.
Eat every other day.
Can you do that for 10 years. Then nope dont do it.

Stop eating 10$ of candy every night? Should be possible.

Alright do it.

Now understand this concept. Dont jump out and do extreme stuff. As you will bounce right back to your current situation.

Understand and appreciate this concept.

You dont want to lose weight for a yearm you want to lose weight for life... Right?

Second rule:

Only change 1 thing every 3 weeks.

Your brain is designed so that it will take approximately 21 days to build a neurologic pattern (read about pavels dog)

After you have changed 1 thing for 3 weeks. It is now part of your daily pattern.

It could be you waking up early for a cardio or a daily protein shake.

Doesn't matter.

But changing 100 things will stop the brain from forming these patterns fast. And resulting in failure.

Third rule.

Keep logs!

Always keep logs. Logs is what makes you know where you have been and where you are moving.

Explain experiences. Good and bad. Recipes. How you feel etc. This is also a great place to look back to for motivation.

So these 3 are my basic rules for dieting (they work for other stuff aswell)

Now the more practically stuff what to actually do.

This is what i give people who is defined as obese. And who really needs to get this thing going.

Every thing has to be done like a machine for 3 weeks before next step is applied.
First step

Every morning.

Take a warm glass of water with honey and lime/lemon juice.

This cleans up the system. Makes your body feel easier with the new diet. Makes intake of nutrition work better etc.

Most people drop 2 kgs the first week just from this. But it is not fat. It is all the build up shit in your intestines. (How gross is that?)

Step 2.
First thing before anything else. Start the day with a tabata. (Google it if you may)
Now we are starting on the training and this is a hard sted. Not the doing itm but the waking up. It takes discipline to wake up in the morning.

My experience is this.

People who just kind of want it. Gives up here.

People who really want it will get past these 3 weeks and as the first 3 weeks seems like suspension. They actually enjoy it.

The reason for the tabata is that it gets your entire body going. While it gets your heartrate through the roof.

For the rest of the waking ours you will have the after burn effect that just kills kilos

3 kilos a week is not uncommon in the beginning of this.

Third step.

Drink a big glass of ice cold water before every meal.

This makes your stomach shrink and basicly you will eat less.

The kilos keep coming of at this point but the "wauw" effect of huge amount of fat is gone. You cannot keep dropping kilos like snoop is smoking bongs.

Fourth step:
Increase the amount of meat/protein.

Yep ly fourth step in a weightloss plan is to actually start eating more.

The reason for this is that protein helps your body burn fat. And it makes you feal filled up after a meal. And it doesnt spike your sugar levels (which results in sugar crawings)


Fifth step.
Pick one!
Stop eating:
Sugar. This includes strachy carbs!
Flour.
Salt.
Milk.


I would advise people to pick sugar. As that will give the fastest results. But the next 3 steps will be the other 3 of them.

Now at this point we have increased the amount of water. Protein. High intensity training.

And removed carbs and other stuff filling up your system.

Maintain this until results have been reached.

Now start giving in on the stuff. 1 at the time.

3 weeks of you eating strachy carbs and sugar again.. What happens?
Nothing? Cool keep eating it.
Heahaches. Bad mood weight gain?
Stop it again.

Basicly get to know your weak points and strenghts.

For me. If i avoid salt and milk i drop weight like im on the anorexia diet while doing blow.

Carbs is good and bad. I use them for weight gaining. But actually i prefer the energi i get from veggies as it is a more lean energy that i can work with for more hours without replenishing it

Well. This is prob my basic version

This is very interesting, I've copied all you have said and saved it somewhere on my desktop.
 
acromegaly;645421 said:
you can make your own protein shakes too (couple raw eggs, natural peanut butter, milk, cinnamon, banana, spinach, you can try all kinds of stuff) and its wayyyy healthier than the protien that comes in jars.
if you are aiming to get fit you need lots of healthy protein and veggies!

Very informative as well. I guess I have so many options available now.
 
GirthGains;645419 said:
You can try vitamin water or v8 juice. my guess is vegtable jucie works better.it would be even better if you blend up fresh vegatables.fruits are important as well. Suppose eat fruits before meals on a empty stomach.For fuirt juice drink it slow so to try to mix the salava with juice.If you can get the vitamins and minerals in your body that it needs. Then you will be Fuller faster and wont have to eat as much. That's why a lot of people can eat and eat. Because they are eating junk or only certain foods. The body isn't getting all the nutrients it needs so it stores the food and still tells the body its hungry because its missing something that the body needs.

Thanks for the advice, very informative.
 
Aimingforthetop;645422 said:
This is my take on dieting:

What ever you do. You should see yourself do this for 10 years everyday!

Example.

Intermittent fasting.
Eat every other day.
Can you do that for 10 years. Then nope dont do it.

Stop eating 10$ of candy every night? Should be possible.

Alright do it.

Now understand this concept. Dont jump out and do extreme stuff. As you will bounce right back to your current situation.

Understand and appreciate this concept.

You dont want to lose weight for a yearm you want to lose weight for life... Right?

Second rule:

Only change 1 thing every 3 weeks.

Your brain is designed so that it will take approximately 21 days to build a neurologic pattern (read about pavels dog)

After you have changed 1 thing for 3 weeks. It is now part of your daily pattern.

It could be you waking up early for a cardio or a daily protein shake.

Doesn't matter.

But changing 100 things will stop the brain from forming these patterns fast. And resulting in failure.

Third rule.

Keep logs!

Always keep logs. Logs is what makes you know where you have been and where you are moving.

Explain experiences. Good and bad. Recipes. How you feel etc. This is also a great place to look back to for motivation.

So these 3 are my basic rules for dieting (they work for other stuff aswell)

Now the more practically stuff what to actually do.

This is what i give people who is defined as obese. And who really needs to get this thing going.

Every thing has to be done like a machine for 3 weeks before next step is applied.
First step

Every morning.

Take a warm glass of water with honey and lime/lemon juice.

This cleans up the system. Makes your body feel easier with the new diet. Makes intake of nutrition work better etc.

Most people drop 2 kgs the first week just from this. But it is not fat. It is all the build up shit in your intestines. (How gross is that?)

Step 2.
First thing before anything else. Start the day with a tabata. (Google it if you may)
Now we are starting on the training and this is a hard sted. Not the doing itm but the waking up. It takes discipline to wake up in the morning.

My experience is this.

People who just kind of want it. Gives up here.

People who really want it will get past these 3 weeks and as the first 3 weeks seems like suspension. They actually enjoy it.

The reason for the tabata is that it gets your entire body going. While it gets your heartrate through the roof.

For the rest of the waking ours you will have the after burn effect that just kills kilos

3 kilos a week is not uncommon in the beginning of this.

Third step.

Drink a big glass of ice cold water before every meal.

This makes your stomach shrink and basicly you will eat less.

The kilos keep coming of at this point but the "wauw" effect of huge amount of fat is gone. You cannot keep dropping kilos like snoop is smoking bongs.

Fourth step:
Increase the amount of meat/protein.

Yep ly fourth step in a weightloss plan is to actually start eating more.

The reason for this is that protein helps your body burn fat. And it makes you feal filled up after a meal. And it doesnt spike your sugar levels (which results in sugar crawings)


Fifth step.
Pick one!
Stop eating:
Sugar. This includes strachy carbs!
Flour.
Salt.
Milk.


I would advise people to pick sugar. As that will give the fastest results. But the next 3 steps will be the other 3 of them.

Now at this point we have increased the amount of water. Protein. High intensity training.

And removed carbs and other stuff filling up your system.

Maintain this until results have been reached.

Now start giving in on the stuff. 1 at the time.

3 weeks of you eating strachy carbs and sugar again.. What happens?
Nothing? Cool keep eating it.
Heahaches. Bad mood weight gain?
Stop it again.

Basicly get to know your weak points and strenghts.

For me. If i avoid salt and milk i drop weight like im on the anorexia diet while doing blow.

Carbs is good and bad. I use them for weight gaining. But actually i prefer the energi i get from veggies as it is a more lean energy that i can work with for more hours without replenishing it

Well. This is prob my basic version

I love your insight on this and the simplicity you have used to explain it. It sounds like a perfect experiment for me to try as I am in the place now where I want to make changes, many changes, but I have taken what you have said into account and working on one thing at a time will be the smartest move. The brain actually takes 28 days to make a total change in habit:) I studies RSA for years and I have always remembered this. It is the reason drug rehabs were always 28 days. With a change in insurance the average stay is now closer to 5 days, just not enough time to make the change. This is why we see a massive relapse problem in the drug game. I know I can start with the basics you have provided me. The biggest change will be getting exercise in, but I will use that as the first 28 day change. I am not going to run a marathon, but maybe jogging for a mile every morning would be perfect. As far as dropping sugar and flour, that will be hard but I know you are right. What do suggest to replace those sugars that we crave? I am very excited you posted this and I will be your guinea pig.

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yup that was great knowldge for those who wanna loose weight...
plus huge girth its not about feeling full but feeling hungry that what you eat is being burnt by the body and it needs more fuel but GOOD fuel
and yes i tried warm water with lemon or honey....it is very good for weight loss and keeping the bofdy clean......

this is eaxxactly what i was ding wrong.....i was suddenly going clean for days eating well etc and then suddenly eating shitty food for days.........
now i know its that the brain wasnt used to the changes
thanks aimingfortop
 
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